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Auto-Off for WiFi when not at home

Hi,
i'd like to save some battery on my desire and i think WiFi is draining the battery a lot.
Like many people i use wifi only at home but i forget to turn off wifi often and then the phone is searching for new wifi networks all the time.
Is there an app out there which turns off wifi automatically when a certain wifi network is out of range? Switching on manually is no problem, cause when i use internet at home i realize quick that i am on 3G and not Wifi. I think there is no way for an auto-on/auto-off.
Any ideas?
thanks

There's an app called Sweet Dreams that turn Wi-Fi/Bluetooth/Ringer/ on or off based on some things like current day, hour of the day, location, sound in the room, movement of the handset.
It's more focused on saving battery and turning sound down when you sleep but works perfectly for what you need.
There's also something like Locale

thx, but i think both apps use GPS for the Location which drains the battery again
A Simple:
If wifi XXX is out of range for more than 5 minutes -> turn off wifi

Or you can use "Setting Profiles" which I use and prefer much more over "Locale"
With Setting Profiles you have the option to save a location based on either
Lat/lon or Cells ids or WIFI location.
Also has reverse logic
Info:
***.probeez.com
(replace *** with www as I am not allowed to post external links)
Best program in Market for this if you ask me.

How the hell do you set this up
LOL. I wanted to turn wifi off when away from home
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Might be easier to help you if you also tell us what program your trying to setup

y5 battery saver - used it on my g1 and hero with perfect results
more info: http://y5.polidea.pl/

y5 seems a good little app, will try it out this evening, thanks for the tip stingerpl

setting profiles its the app im trying too setup
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watercool said:
thx, but i think both apps use GPS for the Location which drains the battery again
A Simple:
If wifi XXX is out of range for more than 5 minutes -> turn off wifi
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Well both have the option of using GPS but it can work just fine with cell triangulation. If your GPS is off it can work just fine based only on approximation from GSM towers, similar to what Google Maps does for the "My Location" feature.

Guitarfreak26 said:
setting profiles its the app im trying too setup
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Well if you want it to turn off WIFI when your leaving home and get out of reach of your WIFI you do the following:
1. Press "locations" and press the menu button and press "New location". Choose "Wi-Fi AP Identified" and put a mark where it says the name of you WiFI at home. and name it like "Home"
2. Now press the profiles button and create 2 profiles. First one you can call "At Home" and set it up like you want you telefon with WiFi enabled and so on when your at home.
Next create another profile and call it something like " Away from Home" and set it up with WiFi disabled and so on like you want it.
3. Now press the "Rules" button and press menu again and create a new rule.
Again press "Menu" and then "Add condition" and choose location you just created before.
Now press Menu and choose "add action" and choose "Activate profile" and choose the profile "At Home" that you created before.
4. Now press the "Rules" button and press menu again and create a new rule.
Again press "Menu" and then "Add condition" and choose location you just created before. But this time put a mark in "Inverse condition logic"
Now press Menu and choose "add action" and choose "Activate profile" and choose the profile "Away from Home" that you created before.
Now your telefon is set to turn off Wifi and what else you want off when you leave reach of your network at home and also it is set to turn back WiFi on when you get back home in reach of your network.
Simple once you learn the logic of setting up profiles and so on. And extremely powerfull as you can basicly set and rule and action for anything you want and get it to do anything you want.
Hope that helped a bit.

Ahh i see.. Ive set that up..
Now i need to figure a way to turn bluetooth on when im in the car lol...

thyttel said:
Well if you want it to turn off WIFI when your leaving home and get out of reach of your WIFI you do the following:
1. Press "locations" and press the menu button and press "New location". Choose "Wi-Fi AP Identified" and put a mark where it says the name of you WiFI at home. and name it like "Home"
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That isn't going to work, when coming back from 'Away from Home' the wifi is in an off state therefore it won't detect that it is back in the home wifi range.
You need to set-up lon/lat for the wifi to turn back on again.

Ive set it up with location.. surely tht needs gps on tho?

Guitarfreak26 said:
Ive set it up with location.. surely tht needs gps on tho?
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No, I think it works out your location using the mobile network masts

I thought the HTC desire switched over to the 3G network when out of range of the wifi anyway.
How do you know for sure that it continues scanning for a wireless network?
And if this is certain, does it do this only when the phone is on and not in stand-by?

I think the best way to approach this is something like Nokia have.
Get the networks (wifi or 3g) in order of preference to connect. Then when sync is need if you have wifi network in a major priority of an 3g, the phone try to connect first to the wifi, if not in range go to 3g.

i downloaded the y5 app form the market and used it for a full day, i say it works amazing like how you want it...
at first i thought it was not working because when i was out of range, the wifi didnt turn off...but i found out why
when you first got your y5 app, open it and it will auto remember your wifi AP(if you are connected to the wifi AP when opening the app)
ok now the tricky part is setting it to turn off, you have to go out of range from the wifi(just go out the house until there is clearly no signal), then manually turn off the wireless.....
ok now go back into the wifi range, voila it will turn itself back on! and go away from it, will turn wifi off!
=D tried and tested....
ps: if you dont manually turn it off when you go out of range for the first time, it somehow wont auto turn wifi off after that......for me at least...

Does it have to be automatic? ToggleWifi shows a not connected icon in the topbar when you have wifi on and not connected. And it is not a widget, so you can customize the icon for wifi (which acts as a wifi toggle)

msc4985 said:
I thought the HTC desire switched over to the 3G network when out of range of the wifi anyway.
How do you know for sure that it continues scanning for a wireless network?
And if this is certain, does it do this only when the phone is on and not in stand-by?
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- cause i get a notification when an open wifi is awailable, and in addition, how should the phone know that i am at home without scanning (and do an auto connect)?
- second is true, i set at the wifi-policies that wifi is turned off when in standby

How to decide - wifi or 3G?

I have been trying to figure out a way to choose wifi or 3G when i want to surf. For instance if i click on the intrrnet app and it should give me an option, to surf through a wifi or 3G service.
What happens now is that it just connects difrectly but i do not now which service it is connected to. How do i achieve this option or at least get the option to surf through eithet wifi or 3G?

If you don't know what connection it uses you should at least read the manual or find out the icons from somewhere else.
Have you set up wifi in the settings? If there is no wifi available I believe it uses 3g automatically.
There is widgets to turn connections on/off.

ebue said:
I have been trying to figure out a way to choose wifi or 3G when i want to surf. For instance if i click on the intrrnet app and it should give me an option, to surf through a wifi or 3G service.
What happens now is that it just connects difrectly but i do not now which service it is connected to. How do i achieve this option or at least get the option to surf through eithet wifi or 3G?
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That would be quite annoying to get the pop up everytime you open the internet up. It uses whatever connection you have active. If you have wifi and 3G on, and you are on a wifi network then wifi will override the 3G (and save you battery in the process). If you have 3G on and wifi off, 3G will be used. However, if you have no connection, a popup does come up saying "please connect to a wifi network" when you click the box, it brings you to the wifi settings, where you don't have to hit a single button and it will turn wifi on and bring you right back to the page where you were (honestly, this might be different across firmwares, but if you don't have it then expect it in the 2.2 update).
So, how to fix the problem you have, I have two recommendations for you:
1) QuickDesk, it's a UI screen that will pop-up over any program you have running without exiting the program (even games). Double-click of home button will allow you to access 1 page of apps (such as a wifi on off switch or power control widget...see below)
2) Power control widget, or at least a wifi on/off toggle switch. Before I had an always on 3G this was a widget I never lived without. I'd have wifi off 3/4 of the day and 3G on 95% of the day, meaning if I wanted to connect to the internet I wanted something easy and simple to use... a simple wifi on/off toggle will work. I would sometimes forget to switch 3G off when I'd get home and half way through looking at web pages I'd think about it, so I'd double click home, find power control widget and activate wifi to override the 3G connection as I originally described.
Hope that helps.

alovell83 said:
That would be quite annoying to get the pop up everytime you open the internet up. It uses whatever connection you have active. If you have wifi and 3G on, and you are on a wifi network then wifi will override the 3G (and save you battery in the process). If you have 3G on and wifi off, 3G will be used. However, if you have no connection, a popup does come up saying "please connect to a wifi network" when you click the box, it brings you to the wifi settings, where you don't have to hit a single button and it will turn wifi on and bring you right back to the page where you were (honestly, this might be different across firmwares, but if you don't have it then expect it in the 2.2 update).
So, how to fix the problem you have, I have two recommendations for you:
1) QuickDesk, it's a UI screen that will pop-up over any program you have running without exiting the program (even games). Double-click of home button will allow you to access 1 page of apps (such as a wifi on off switch or power control widget...see below)
2) Power control widget, or at least a wifi on/off toggle switch. Before I had an always on 3G this was a widget I never lived without. I'd have wifi off 3/4 of the day and 3G on 95% of the day, meaning if I wanted to connect to the internet I wanted something easy and simple to use... a simple wifi on/off toggle will work. I would sometimes forget to switch 3G off when I'd get home and half way through looking at web pages I'd think about it, so I'd double click home, find power control widget and activate wifi to override the 3G connection as I originally described.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks. Thats the answer I was looking for. I have both services activated and they are active in the bar at the top of the screen; that is why I asked to see which one was actually being used in this case. So if both are on then Wifi takes perference over the 3G? Good to know this. I take it I can ger this on/off widget in the Market. I'll see if I can download it. The widget method sounds better.
BTW, just checked out the Market and there are quite a few. Any particular one that you guys recommend or just any will do-? I just downloaded the one by Curvefish
Now looking for one to turn off the 3G.

I think power control widget comes out of the box long press on your screen and go to widgets to look for it. As far as 3g goes you should be able to program a shortcut instead. Long press then access settings which should bring you to individual settings you can program like 3g toggle...ank program off the market will do just fine but I prefer to not give access to my phone unless necessary.

when both WiFi and 3G/H are ON
it will by default use WiFi
if WiFi fails or signal is poor, it will automatically switch to 3G/H
you will see the icon at the top of the status bar
ebue said:
I have been trying to figure out a way to choose wifi or 3G when i want to surf. For instance if i click on the intrrnet app and it should give me an option, to surf through a wifi or 3G service.
What happens now is that it just connects difrectly but i do not now which service it is connected to. How do i achieve this option or at least get the option to surf through eithet wifi or 3G?
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You can force the phone to only use WiFi if you install this App
APN on-off Widget http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765081

Thank you guys for the good info. I am in the process of downloading some maps and it is really going well. Got something like 165KB/s so far.

Noob question about data setting

Hi guys,
Got my HD yesterday...love it x100000. My first android so im still getting to grips with it all but what a fantastic phone.
Anyway my question is just about the data connection set up. I was just looking through the settings making sure everything is how I like it and I stumbled across this:
Settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile Networks and at the bottom there is an option which says 'Enable always-on mobile data'.
What is this and what does it mean? It says it uses more power on some mobile networks so do I turn it on or turn it off?
I have a wifi and mobile network widget on my home screen cause I like to be able to turn them on and off quickly.
If someone could just explain to me exactly what this setting is and whether I need it on or off.
Thanks a lot

This is your 3g connection. You should switch it off when you're not using it as it's a battery drainer. The always on option is good if you're waiting for a lstge ota update ir something similar and you have an unlimited data cobtract.
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pwraggcan said:
This is your 3g connection. You should switch it off when you're not using it as it's a battery drainer. The always on option is good if you're waiting for a lstge ota update ir something similar and you have an unlimited data cobtract.
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I see, but the thing is if I have Enable always-on data yet I have a mobile network widget on my home screen and I turn it off what is actually on?
I have sort of interpreted this always-on setting as:
If you have you mobile (3g) network turned on and have the always-on setting on, then when your phone goes into sleep mode the 3g connection is maintained and apps can still sync whilst your phone is locked/sleeping.
If you have your mobile network (3g) turned on but have the always-on setting turned off then whenever you lock your phone and it goes into sleep mode it is no longer connected to the 3g network and apps and stuff cannot sync (unless you're on wifi obviously). And as soon as you unlock the phone it will reconnect to the 3g network.
And turning the mobile network off from the widget or in settings overrides the always on setting.
Like I said this is only my interpretation of this setting...I've searched google and found almost nothing concrete about it just some opinions and I have searched through the full user manual for the desire HD and this setting has no mention.
So what do you think? Anyone else have any knowledge of this setting?

im not sure about this but i think it means that it doesnt connect, disconnect, connect again whenever you open or close the internet. its always connected, but not always active, so its faster to start up. its like leaving your wifi on all the time. theres always a connection but its not always passing data.
i leave mine always on because it doesnt eat much battery and it makes connecting over 3g much faster.

[Q] Auto Network Switch - where is it located ?

Where is the Auto-Network Switch located in Settings ? In my WIFI settings I have no ADVANCED setting to check, only a "Notify me" setting is present. Under each network connection there is an advance switch but it doesn't have anything for auto-network.
Started getting "unstable network" errors and I notice the device is scanning every 5-10 seconds even though my wifi signal is very strong.

You don't have advanced when you hit the menu button? That's where you'll find the auto network setting...
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buenos said:
You don't have advanced when you hit the menu button? That's where you'll find the auto network setting...
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Menu button within Setting didn't dawn on me but yeah it makes sense, I guess. Thanks given.

When I check the Auto Network setting box, I disconnect from my wi-fi entirely, even thought I am right in front of it.
Any other ideas of how I can get rid of that 'Your Internet connection is unstable,..' notification?
Thanks!

This is pretty irritating it has stopped me from connecting to a "slow" wi-fi network when I had 0 cell signal
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Ah, I posted a separate thread about this. I am receiving the unstable connection warnings as well, also with good signal (or certainly should be good signal where I'm located relative to the routers).
Wonder if some of us have bad phones in this regard .. will have to keep watching for others with the issue / possible solutions.

[Q] How can I disable Android 4.3 features that don't work for my situation?

Hi, I just upgraded to Android 4.3 on my S4, and a few features are really starting to get to me.
The wifi automatically turns on when I shut it off. That might be great except I shut it off because I don't want to connect to the WiFi in the area. And I don't want to forget the network, because when I turn the wifi ON, I do want to connect, not enter a password. IIRC, in 4.2.2 this was called Smart Mode, but I can't seem to find it in the options. Maybe I overlooked it.
As well, when the wifi *IS* on, it continuously complains about my network connection being unstable. Having dealt with my home connection over the landlord's wifi for 1 1/2 years, I am aware of this, however, it's all I've got, so is there a way to tell it to stop trying to smartly switch to using the (almost non-existent) one bar of Verizon access that flutters on and off in my house?
I think there were a few other questions I had, but I forget what they are, I'll post them when I remember.
Thanks!

Ah, ok, I've got it, apparently, in WiFi under Settings, now the menu button (to the left of the home button) is now active for certain screens. Go to "Advanced WiFi Settings" and you now have options. I'll have to see what else is hidden in menu-button accessible places now.