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Where's the Wi-Fi love!

This is mostly just me, after a whole 24 hours of being a Note 10.1 owner (woot, go me) being annoyed that its the 3G owners that have gotten all the update goodies!
Germany got theirs a month ago, UK got theirs today... but only the 8000 models.
In theory this would mean that the 8010/8013 models will get released in Germany first, and then in the UK a month after that...
I really really *really* hope that this is not the case though. For this would be... vexing.
Saying that, I'll probably end up rooting and putting the uk 8000 rom onto my tablet anyway, as I am an impatient soul. But it is the principle of the thing that counts!
I think the reason this whole thing bothered me is this poll I saw the other day - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871383
If the 3G model was the most popular, then prioritising that firmware would make sense. It seems as though the WiFi models are by far the most prolific though!
OR.... WiFi users are more likely to answer polls.
Keep wishing hard guys, maybe we will get an update soon. and then hopefully someone will finally do a non-8000 custom rom!!

I have just decided to enjoy what I have for now. 8010 update before Christmas at some time will be fine with me. I dumped an iPad and a transformer 101 for my note and one for my other half. We are pleased.
Being a software developer I know the importance of good testing and would rather wait than have to put up with junk. Just my tuppence worth.

mace242 said:
I have just decided to enjoy what I have for now. 8010 update before Christmas at some time will be fine with me. I dumped an iPad and a transformer 101 for my note and one for my other half. We are pleased.
Being a software developer I know the importance of good testing and would rather wait than have to put up with junk. Just my tuppence worth.
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Makes sense, I also came from an iPad (the original one) and upgraded to a Note. Is quite a difference!

I'm a happy new owner also & very eager to get buttery smoothness on this fantastic piece of kit! hope we not waiting too long

I had enough couldn't wait anymore flashed the German jellybean on my 8010 couldn't be happier. I couldn't stand the lag on ICS, jellybean so smoooothhh don't care much for the feature smoothness was the most important.
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mafia187 said:
I had enough couldn't wait anymore flashed the German jellybean on my 8010 couldn't be happier. I couldn't stand the lag on ICS, jellybean so smoooothhh don't care much for the feature smoothness was the most important.
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is that the German 8000 firmware? what are the drawbacks?

goodie said:
is that the German 8000 firmware? what are the drawbacks?
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Yep the 8000 firmware, I don't notice any drawbacks. It's stable like ics, a lot smoother, battery life same as ics 3days 10.5hrs screen. The only thing is you gotta set govonor on-demand
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i want some wifi love too :crying:
i would like to have more developing for this tablet

Only real noticeable drawback is that if you use a USB toggle to connect a wireless keyboard or mouse it will drop signal on the German OTA. Other than that and the OnDemand thing as mentioned earlier it works fine on the 8013.
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mafia187 said:
Yep the 8000 firmware, I don't notice any drawbacks. It's stable like ics, a lot smoother, battery life same as ics 3days 10.5hrs screen. The only thing is you gotta set govonor on-demand
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So that's the 8000 firmware on a 8010 Note? I understood there were issues with the ROM looking for hardware that doesn't exist. Sorry for bringing this up again, I like my Note and don't want to stuff it up.

sencafe said:
So that's the 8000 firmware on a 8010 Note? I understood there were issues with the ROM looking for hardware that doesn't exist. Sorry for bringing this up again, I like my Note and don't want to stuff it up.
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I'm using "Team Union Rom" 8000 on my 8010 wifi without any problems what's so ever. All you have to do is use SetCPU which comes with the Rom to scaling: on-demand and check set on boot. No os issues, no random reboot all fine.
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I'm pretty peev'd about this too. Can't believe that a non-3G device is getting the updates last of all. Surely theres no modem nor carrier testing to worry about so it should have actually been the first to be released?
I REALLY want to use the features of 4.1.1 and am refusing to utilise my Note properly until I get the official update.
COMEONE SAMSUNG!! Pull yer finger out!

mafia187 said:
I'm using "Team Union Rom" 8000 on my 8010 wifi without any problems what's so ever. All you have to do is use SetCPU which comes with the Rom to scaling: on-demand and check set on boot. No os issues, no random reboot all fine.
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+1 on this. This rom runs perfectly on our wifi devices

I dont want to be forced to ROOT my device though unfortunately (I have a SGS3 for all my custom ROM business lol)
Got apps that won't work if ROOT is enabled on my device, and as I intend to use this note 10.1 for work related stuff its going to be essential having a stock ROM........

What apps won't work on your SGS3 since root? I have yet to find anything whether it be on my note or my SGS3 that don't work...
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bkeaver said:
What apps won't work on your SGS3 since root? I have yet to find anything whether it be on my note or my SGS3 that don't work...
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DME for Enterprise (Work exchange emails) - That's because the administrator has set it to not allow ROOTED or Jailbroken devices. (I know its because I set it up lol!)
There is a work around but I care not to implement it as it still means turning a security feature off which is not worth it just for my sake!!.
Anyway - Anyone wanting to 'voice their concern' regarding no JB for 8010 users - please post on samsung page here:
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
(Look for post Entitled: GALAXY Note 10.1 gets Premium Suite update. Packs enhanced multitasking, new S Pen-optimized features and Android Jelly Bean.)

Good for Enterprise won't work on rooted phones when the no root policy is in effect.

zoomee said:
DME for Enterprise (Work exchange emails) - That's because the administrator has set it to not allow ROOTED or Jailbroken devices. (I know its because I set it up lol!)
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hehehe, I did the same thing on my servers

bkeaver said:
+1 on this. This rom runs perfectly on our wifi devices
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same here - runs perfect now, went through two or three complete shutdowns though, now only goes to sleep as it should do...using SetCPU with scaling on-demand and check set on boot - evrythinx fine now...

I'm also a new owner of this tablet(closing in on 3 weeks). I have a Galaxy Nexus, so I know what it feels like to get updates fast. It's a little troublesome waiting for Samsung to update this device. I told myself that I wouldn't complain since Google probably takes around the same amount of time putting together updates, but they have the luxury of seeming fast by putting them out first. What I don't understand is why Samsung is releasing the JB update for the the 3G version first. This may be due to my ignorance, if so please excuse it, but I thought it would be easier to update the WiFi version especially considering they're pretty much done the development of it.

[Q] Some questions about installing a custom ROM on my Nexus 4

I know there might be so many threads asking questions about Custom ROMs and mine is going to be no different.
I have few questions about Custom ROMs & Moreover, one of my good friends has been trying to convince me to install a Custom ROM on my Nexus 4. He has done the same on his Nexus 4 and is really happy with it.
First of all, what advantages does a custom ROM has over stock ROM? (a little bit of details would be really really appreciated)
Second, if I am going to install one, I would really love to know what options I have & how much good & bad they are.
At last, I would welcome any other suggestions or tips.
Hope you will have a good day!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180999
That will help.
Basically all of the ROMs, except that Optimus G port, will be fully functional. Your task will be to try a few, figure out which options you want and decide on the one you want. We cannot tell you what is good for you.
Start with Paranoid Android, CM and AOKP if you want loads of features.

My approach towards custom ROM is more about getting better software on my phone. With Nexus4, you can be assured that you will get the latest software always, but Better? Not always. CustomROM follow non-traditional approach avoiding bloatwares (not any for nexus I believe), optimizing for the performance and/or battery life, providing more functions and S/W upgrades.
I haven't flashed custom ROM yet on my Nexus 4, because simply I don't have any reason for it. I am happy with stock android, with battery life & with the performance of my handset.
Apart from all this, there is one more aspect,'Personal interest'. If you have that, go ahead, there are plenty of good options waiting for your attention on XDA

This will help as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284384&highlight=rom+advantage

2-3 features I absolutely love which will probably never make into stock roms are -
Sweep2wake - buttons have limited life, and because this Nexus 4 doesn't have warranty in India, it matters a lot. I just sweep on the screen to activate it. And tap on a notification to lock it.
Pie Controls (I have completely disabled the navigation bar. I have a full 4.7 inch content screen)
CM Profiles - can't appreciate this enough. Very useful to filter out notifications during night when you want minimal distribution.
Keeping features aside, I have over clocked the cpu to 1.7 Ghz.
And Linaro patches for tool chain with which the rom is compiled, improves smoothness and battery life.
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ankurk said:
I know there might be so many threads asking questions about Custom ROMs and mine is going to be no different.
I have few questions about Custom ROMs & Moreover, one of my good friends has been trying to convince me to install a Custom ROM on my Nexus 4. He has done the same on his Nexus 4 and is really happy with it.
First of all, what advantages does a custom ROM has over stock ROM? (a little bit of details would be really really appreciated)
Second, if I am going to install one, I would really love to know what options I have & how much good & bad they are.
At last, I would welcome any other suggestions or tips.
Hope you will have a good day!
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If you decide to install ParanoidAndroid you get customizable navbar and notification bar. You can set the heigh of the navbar and also the backgroundcolor and iconcolor for both bars. PA have HybridSettings. You can display the calendar app on your smartphone like it would be on a tablet.
I tried CM and PA and i'm now on PA because of the customisations and the better implemented pie. Both are very stable and the battery is for me like with stock.
But there are a lot of ROMs and like already said you have to find "your" ROM

First of all, I apologize for replying late. Secondly, thanks for your answers, they helped me a lot. I actually have one more question,
I want as much as customization and little bit more battery life, which ROM is really good for that?
Moreover, is there any comprehensive list of custom ROMs for Nexus 4?

Once you go custom rom, you will never return to stock rom. Go for it. You won't regret it.
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ankurk said:
First of all, I apologize for replying late. Secondly, thanks for your answers, they helped me a lot. I actually have one more question,
I want as much as customization and little bit more battery life, which ROM is really good for that?
Moreover, is there any comprehensive list of custom ROMs for Nexus 4?
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Battery life is similar between most roms. Custom kernels play a larger role in battery.
ROMs based on AOKP generally have the most customization settings. These include liquid smooth, carbon, etc...
Heres a directory of roms for the n4, but its best to just go through the Android Development/Original Android Development section and look for one you like.

badboy47 said:
Once you go custom rom, you will never return to stock rom. Go for it. You won't regret it.
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I beg to differ
I downgraded my GNex back to 4.1. It lags so badly with 4.2

exb0 said:
I beg to differ
I downgraded my GNex back to 4.1. It lags so badly with 4.2
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my gnex flies on 4.2.2.

simms22 said:
my gnex flies on 4.2.2.
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You must be doing something right then! On CM10.1 , after about a week of usage, it would take me about a minute to start up ANY apps. It's ridiculous. Oh well.

exb0 said:
You must be doing something right then! On CM10.1 , after about a week of usage, it would take me about a minute to start up ANY apps. It's ridiculous. Oh well.
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i run rasbean/rassaber with the trinity kernel. using the phone(not benchmarking), its hard to tell if its any slower than my nexus 4.

simms22 said:
i run rasbean/rassaber with the trinity kernel. using the phone(not benchmarking), its hard to tell if its any slower than my nexus 4.
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hmm, I'll give it a try. It feels a LOT slower than my N4. Not sure why..

exb0 said:
hmm, I'll give it a try. It feels a LOT slower than my N4. Not sure why..
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if you try it, let me know how it goes for you, i think youll like it.

simms22 said:
if you try it, let me know how it goes.
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Perhaps in awhile. My girlfriend is using it and she's a huge PA fan. She wiped my phone without me knowing to flash PA.. :C
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exb0 said:
Perhaps in awhile. My girlfriend is using it and she's a huge PA fan. She wiped my phone without me knowing to flash PA.. :C
Sent from Halo.
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ha

Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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g2uzer said:
Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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Google wallet will warn you. Others would stay.
No, I keep it on the phone or my computer.
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g2uzer said:
Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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Rooting does not take away anything, except DRM keys.
You can always download factory image and flash it using fast boot. Factory image is available at Google.
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Why a custom ROM instead of debloated Stock?

I've had my RAZR M since March and love it. So much more powerful than my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. I'm not new to flashing ROMs or overclocking, having begun my Android experience with the LG Ally and Eclair.
In my previous experience, there was a huge need for customizing the phone because the stock version as provided by Verizon was less than stable and/or slower than desirable. But this RAZR M seems awesome once you get rid of the bloat. I haven't had any issues with lag, connectivity, apps, etc. It's really a decent phone for my purposes.
I have already unlocked the boot loader and rooted it, backed it up, blown it away, customized stock, used Matt's utility to restore it, used rsdlite, etc. I've even scared the crap out of myself with a few soft bricks. Now I want to do more.
When I look at the threads for the various ROMs, I've noticed they are all pretty similar and they all tend to break something. Since most seem to be a derivative of JB, I see little reason to be tempted by them. Just a different roll of the same thing.
Obviously, I'm overlooking something here, some reason other than "because I can" that makes using a custom ROM version of generic JB better than stock JB. How is 4.2.2 different than 4.1.2 for instance? If custom is less stable or has some unresolved feature issues, how is it still better than stock? Is over clocking necessary (as it was with the Ally and the Play), or even noticeable? I would really appreciate some useful and honest feedback here. No wisecracks, please. This is a serious inquiry.
Thank you for your kind attention.
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netizenmt said:
I've had my RAZR M since March and love it. So much more powerful than my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. I'm not new to flashing ROMs or overclocking, having begun my Android experience with the LG Ally and Eclair.
In my previous experience, there was a huge need for customizing the phone because the stock version as provided by Verizon was less than stable and/or slower than desirable. But this RAZR M seems awesome once you get rid of the bloat. I haven't had any issues with lag, connectivity, apps, etc. It's really a decent phone for my purposes.
I have already unlocked the boot loader and rooted it, backed it up, blown it away, customized stock, used Matt's utility to restore it, used rsdlite, etc. I've even scared the crap out of myself with a few soft bricks. Now I want to do more.
When I look at the threads for the various ROMs, I've noticed they are all pretty similar and they all tend to break something. Since most seem to be a derivative of JB, I see little reason to be tempted by them. Just a different roll of the same thing.
Obviously, I'm overlooking something here, some reason other than "because I can" that makes using a custom ROM version of generic JB better than stock JB. How is 4.2.2 different than 4.1.2 for instance? If custom is less stable or has some unresolved feature issues, how is it still better than stock? Is over clocking necessary (as it was with the Ally and the Play), or even noticeable? I would really appreciate some useful and honest feedback here. No wisecracks, please. This is a serious inquiry.
Thank you for your kind attention.
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Personally, I just wanted something new and different than stock. I got my M when it first came out and didn't flash any roms until this past month. The big differences that I have noticed running a 4.2.2 based rom are that the camera seems to respond quicker, and when I set defaults they stick through reboot.
The problem with the defaults was one of my biggest gripes with the stock rom. Every time that I would reboot my phone, the defaults would clear and that drove me crazy.
Now as far as problems that I have noticed on the 4.2.2 roms, the only one that I really have is with recording video. It does not seem to want to pick up audio correctly and you can barely hear anything on playback. Also the front facing camera doesn't work for recording videos.
On the plus side of custom roms is that you do get more options to get the ui to look and feel how you want it to. And no, you don't have to over clock on this phone.
The best thing that I could say is flash carbon or pacman rom and play with it for a day or two and see how you like it.

netizenmt said:
I've had my RAZR M since March and love it. So much more powerful than my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. I'm not new to flashing ROMs or overclocking, having begun my Android experience with the LG Ally and Eclair.
In my previous experience, there was a huge need for customizing the phone because the stock version as provided by Verizon was less than stable and/or slower than desirable. But this RAZR M seems awesome once you get rid of the bloat. I haven't had any issues with lag, connectivity, apps, etc. It's really a decent phone for my purposes.
I have already unlocked the boot loader and rooted it, backed it up, blown it away, customized stock, used Matt's utility to restore it, used rsdlite, etc. I've even scared the crap out of myself with a few soft bricks. Now I want to do more.
When I look at the threads for the various ROMs, I've noticed they are all pretty similar and they all tend to break something. Since most seem to be a derivative of JB, I see little reason to be tempted by them. Just a different roll of the same thing.
Obviously, I'm overlooking something here, some reason other than "because I can" that makes using a custom ROM version of generic JB better than stock JB. How is 4.2.2 different than 4.1.2 for instance? If custom is less stable or has some unresolved feature issues, how is it still better than stock? Is over clocking necessary (as it was with the Ally and the Play), or even noticeable? I would really appreciate some useful and honest feedback here. No wisecracks, please. This is a serious inquiry.
Thank you for your kind attention.
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on the surface, you are correct. however, there are some custom ROMs that give us JB 4.2.2 before it is officially released to us. here's a link to the new features: http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
so, in addition to the new features, some custom ROMs offer various mods/tweaks. some claim to give better battery performance, others block ads, others reduce lag (although, that is mostly kernel related). so, just as calbrs stated, give one of them a try for a few days (make a nandroid of your current setup first though), and see how you like it.
problem for me though, as much I as should be on 4.1.2, I really enjoy being on the latest/greatest build, as I get to experience more features. and so long as my battery performance doesn't suffer too much, I'll stick on 4.2.2 for now.

Well, I've tried both Carbon and PAC and then settled on PAC. Quite honestly, I don't see a whole lot of actual performance difference. It IS cool to be running a custom ROM though. PIE is a pain as it always seems to pop up when I don't want it but has that What's That factor if you want to wow someone. And I do like having a custom lockscreen. Otherwise.... I guess I don't get it.
But then again, maybe I'm just old! Lol!
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netizenmt said:
Well, I've tried both Carbon and PAC and then settled on PAC. Quite honestly, I don't see a whole lot of actual performance difference. It IS cool to be running a custom ROM though. PIE is a pain as it always seems to pop up when I don't want it but has that What's That factor if you want to wow someone. And I do like having a custom lockscreen. Otherwise.... I guess I don't get it.
But then again, maybe I'm just old! Lol!
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in terms of 4.2.2 over 4.1.2, correct - it's mostly aesthetics. but the performance is hardly noticeable since the M is already fairly quick.
some custom 4.1.2 ROMs, however, do offer better battery life (in part due to debloating, others have tweaks).
but if the performance difference is negligible to you, then why not stick to 4.2.2?
also, did you try the unofficial AOKP?
finally, some of these custom ROMs also have the latest kernels, which can help in terms of keeping your data connection.

netizenmt said:
Well, I've tried both Carbon and PAC and then settled on PAC. Quite honestly, I don't see a whole lot of actual performance difference. It IS cool to be running a custom ROM though. PIE is a pain as it always seems to pop up when I don't want it but has that What's That factor if you want to wow someone. And I do like having a custom lockscreen. Otherwise.... I guess I don't get it.
But then again, maybe I'm just old! Lol!
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I'd suggest you try Dhacker29's PA or CM. IMO much snappier than PAC.
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http://translate.googleusercontent....t=1160&usg=ALkJrhjsa98LEgZfFOrbXLlYjfVHcUzQeA
I agree most roms are not as good as stock. The #2 on that poll is here on xda.

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I'd suggest you try Dhacker29's PA or CM. IMO much snappier than PAC.
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CM says its camcorder is broken, so I had not tried it. I can't seem to find PA but I'll look some more.
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netizenmt said:
CM says its camcorder is broken, so I had not tried it. I can't seem to find PA but I'll look some more.
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The OP hasn't been updated in ages. Everything in VM and PA works fine (NFC is a little sketchy)
You can find builds at http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29
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Because we can
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Because we can
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There... someone finally said it. Probably didn't even read the OP, didja?
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netizenmt said:
There... someone finally said it. Probably didn't even read the OP, didja?
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Of course I read the original post that's why I worded it as I did. Poor attempt at humor or should have thrown in an emoticon to make that clear.
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Of course I read the original post that's why I worded it as I did. Poor attempt at humor or should have thrown in an emoticon to make that clear.
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Lol, I was being funny back. Sometimes humor just doesn't come across in texts. It's all good, man!!
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Well, after a week of ROM testing, here is what the results have been so far:
Carbon comes out on top in a very close battle with Slimbean. What made the difference? Support. Slimbean is actually the better of the 2 ROMs in so many areas, but no updates since May 2013 means important tweaks and a functional camcorder are missing. Carbon is kept current, so if something is fixed in the Base version, it won't be long until we see it in Carbon.
I also worked with PAC, Paranoid, AOKP and CM 10.1. Each had its merits but were eliminated for various reasons. I did not look at any ROM that was not a 4.2.2 version.
I must confess, if Slimbean is ever updated to the latest 4.2.2 version, I will be taking another look.
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netizenmt said:
Well, after a week of ROM testing, here is what the results have been so far:
Carbon comes out on top in a very close battle with Slimbean. What made the difference? Support. Slimbean is actually the better of the 2 ROMs in so many areas, but no updates since May 2013 means important tweaks and a functional camcorder are missing. Carbon is kept current, so if something is fixed in the Base version, it won't be long until we see it in Carbon.
I also worked with PAC, Paranoid, AOKP and CM 10.1. Each had its merits but were eliminated for various reasons. I did not look at any ROM that was not a 4.2.2 version.
I must confess, if Slimbean is ever updated to the latest 4.2.2 version, I will be taking another look.
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so what was your reason for eliminating AOKP? this has been the best for me so far. although, I did not give carbon a fighting chance, as on first boot it was extremely laggy. but i'm re-considering....

If you have the time I would love a rom by rom review of what you did and didn't like. I'm in the market for a 4.2.2 rom and don't know where to start. I'm really looking to just settle on one and not have to try out a bunch.
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To be perfectly candid, I really can't say there was anything "wrong" with it. It just didn't catch my attention in the same manner that Slimbean and Carbon did.
Today I realized I did not try Eclipse because I erroneously thought it was a 4.1 or 4.0 version ROM. I'll be giving it a go later tonight.
Quite honestly, I think it all comes down to personal preference more than performance. Depending on what apps you use, they all are pretty similar. What runs better is really more about your own hardware, how you use it, your selection of apps and your expectations as to how the phone ought to perform.
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netizenmt said:
To be perfectly candid, I really can't say there was anything "wrong" with it. It just didn't catch my attention in the same manner that Slimbean and Carbon did.
Today I realized I did not try Eclipse because I erroneously thought it was a 4.1 or 4.0 version ROM. I'll be giving it a go later tonight.
Quite honestly, I think it all comes down to personal preference more than performance. Depending on what apps you use, they all are pretty similar. What runs better is really more about your own hardware, how you use it, your selection of apps and your expectations as to how the phone ought to perform.
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agreed.
Eclipse has both 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 available.
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Jersey846 said:
If you have the time I would love a rom by rom review of what you did and didn't like. I'm in the market for a 4.2.2 rom and don't know where to start. I'm really looking to just settle on one and not have to try out a bunch.
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I'll give my experience, but to each their own:
PACMan:
most customizable, very stable, worst on battery life, dev is pretty good at posting updates (he only posts when there is a significant update)
AOKP:
very customizable, fairly stable, best battery life, dev is very responsive, interactive, and post updates daily
Carbon:
very customizable, most stable, dev is very responsive, interactive, and post updates daily;
CM10.1:
(stock, basically): haven't tried it
Slimbean:
very customizable, dev is non-existent; however, I gave this a go for about an hour as well, but dismissed it due to lack of customization when compared to PACMan
Orion:
very customizable, very stable, dev is very responsive, interactive, and post updates routinely; however, I gave this a go for about a day, but did not like the blackout themes/sounds/etc. but that was awhile ago, so I certainly owe this ROM another chance
Eclipse:
haven't tried it
Axoim
haven't tried it
JellyBeer
haven't tried it

This is perfect! Before reading this I was leaning to AOKP or Cyanogen. I like how customizable AOKP is and I like the updates and stability from Cyanogen. (from what I've read) I want a rom that is stable stable stable as I wouldn't consider myself a power user. Thanks for posting this!
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See what I mean though. He dismissed Slimbean because it was not as customizable as PACman. I dismissed PACman as being too complicated, too customizable!
Hate to tell you this, Jersey846, but you probably will need to try a few yourself before you know what's right for you.
BTW, thus far Eclipse is proving to be very stable. I haven't had any noticeable lag, signal seems stable and comparable to what I normally see in my area. Looking good so far!
Orion, eh... Have to check that out...
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Factory rom stability?

I am coming from an S2 and been considering an S4 and was wondering about the stability of the factory unrooted rom. I have read several complaints early on about freezes, crashes, and lag but was wondering if Samsung cleared that all up on the update that released after the phone was released. I normally root and run a custom rom but probably won't this time because of having a newborn and with working so much I'll just leave it stock for right now. So anyone with an updated stock GS4, I would greatly appreciate some honest feedback about how it is running. Thanks
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Stock Rom and the Google edition Rom floating around are both very stable
sent from my i377m Google edition

Matridom said:
Stock Rom and the Google edition Rom floating around are both very stable
sent from my i377m Google edition
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He just said unrooted. He means stock ROM as in right when you buy it. The ROM that it comes with. And yes it is stable but could be a little better
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The stock ROM (in my case - model SGH-I337M, firmware I337MVLUAMDJ) is very stable, I have yet to experience any freezing or force closes. I'm sitting here with about 300 hours of uptime so far, so it's not bad in my opinion.

jetlitheone said:
He just said unrooted. He means stock ROM as in right when you buy it. The ROM that it comes with. And yes it is stable but could be a little better
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I'm currently supporting about 40 s4 in my company, that are unrooted and unmodified, I know what the stock Rom is and I did provide an answer, that it is very stable. I added the additional information that the Google edition Rom is also very stable
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trev869 said:
I am coming from an S2 and been considering an S4 and was wondering about the stability of the factory unrooted rom. I have read several complaints early on about freezes, crashes, and lag but was wondering if Samsung cleared that all up on the update that released after the phone was released. I normally root and run a custom rom but probably won't this time because of having a newborn and with working so much I'll just leave it stock for right now. So anyone with an updated stock GS4, I would greatly appreciate some honest feedback about how it is running. Thanks
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I rooted stock but only disabled apps in factory interface, no other mods. No FCs, freeze or lag. I only reboot if I swap batteries.

My S4 was great before I rooted and son has not rooted and his phone is very stable also. I wouldn't hold back on this phone--it's amazing--
PS: There are always going to be negative posts. But, I think 98% of users love this phone--IMHO

stable yes, there is some lag and lots of useless apps etc. i hate carrier bloatware tho, because i travel a lot. last thing i need is useless apps from cosmote or docomo or wind or att on a phone that i cant get rid of; only reason i rooted the GS3 and Atrix 4G was to eliminate carrier bloat (also SIM unlocked them but that is because i travel internationally 1-2 times a month). The GS4 i wanted a faster ROM and to tweak it for my own reasons.
i didnt have any problems with stock rom stability, and it only lagged here and there and i only noticed it after flashing other roms.

trev869 said:
I am coming from an S2 and been considering an S4 and was wondering about the stability of the factory unrooted rom. I have read several complaints early on about freezes, crashes, and lag but was wondering if Samsung cleared that all up on the update that released after the phone was released. I normally root and run a custom rom but probably won't this time because of having a newborn and with working so much I'll just leave it stock for right now. So anyone with an updated stock GS4, I would greatly appreciate some honest feedback about how it is running. Thanks
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I came from the I777 myself and still have mine as a backup (see my profile for evidence). The I337 (GS4) is extremely stable. Once you've killed most of the bloatware and turned off the air features (believe me, you won't need them), this phone becomes extremely awesome. Aside from the feel, the screen is brilliantly clear, and everything runs smoother and eye pleasant compared to the I777. When I had to send back my S4 for screen repair, going back to the S2 was day and night. Dark lighting, smaller build, and (yes) thicker. The durability of the S2 is nice, but that's all it wins.
Just go for it. You won't go wrong (but do get a sturdy case.)
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Where?
Matridom said:
Stock Rom and the Google edition Rom floating around are both very stable
sent from my i377m Google edition
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Hi.
Can you please help me to find the Google edition ROM for i377m?

Yorch82 said:
Hi.
Can you please help me to find the Google edition ROM for i377m?
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a quick look in the development forum would find you the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341376
It sees enough activities that it's usually front page. Use at your own risk.

Yorch82 said:
Hi.
Can you please help me to find the Google edition ROM for i377m?
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why don't you look in dev section--
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Matridom said:
a quick look in the development forum would find you the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341376
It sees enough activities that it's usually front page. Use at your own risk.
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lol your wasn't there when I posted, or I am blind
either way, not to hard for OP to look there first--

Who is Waiting and going to use CyanogenMod?

Just wondering if you all are going to flash CM when they make it or another AOSP?
I know it will come soon especially since the Nexus 5 will have similar specs as with the 9005
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jetbruceli said:
Just wondering if you all are going to flash CM when they make it or another AOSP?
I know it will come soon especially since the Nexus 5 will have similar specs as with the 9005
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I've owned Android since the good old days of the Google G1.
I don't think I've seen 1 version of CM that ran perfectly, no ROM was ever 'finished'.... so I'll be staying away from them from now on.
I'm actually probably NOT going to root my Note 3, can't see what I need to root it for tbh.

Amdathlonuk said:
I've owned Android since the good old days of the Google G1.
I don't think I've seen 1 version of CM that ran perfectly, no ROM was ever 'finished'.... so I'll be staying away from them from now on.
I'm actually probably NOT going to root my Note 3, can't see what I need to root it for tbh.
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My first was the original galaxy i7500 but my cm experience was on the milestone 2 then g2x.
I really like cm when a device is no longer supported by their respective companies.
When I had the nexus 4, I used the latest cm 10.2 nightlies because to me the stock AOSP was lacking a few functions.
The note 3 has its own set of functions that I don't think we will ever see on CM.
However, would be very nice to have a dual booting system so I could flip flop between the two.
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Would be nice having on n900

fethi2 said:
Would be nice having on n900
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If the s4 has it, I am sure the note 3 900 will get it too.
One the biggest reasons for getting the 9005 was because I wanted to stick with a SOC that is easier for devs to work with.
Especially about a year from now when Sammy releases the note 5 and forgets about the note 3, we can at least update to the latest Android with CM
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me me me! pick me! xD

I usually run Paranoid Android on all my devices, but my experience with stock/rooted Note 3 so far has been fantastic, so I'm probably just going to run with things as is for the time being. Once PA releases I'll probably have to reevaluate though ;p

Amdathlonuk said:
I've owned Android since the good old days of the Google G1.
I don't think I've seen 1 version of CM that ran perfectly, no ROM was ever 'finished'.... so I'll be staying away from them from now on.
I'm actually probably NOT going to root my Note 3, can't see what I need to root it for tbh.
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I kinda feel the same, I bought a few apps recently because it's not rooted. and these apps I'm happy to support because I use them on a daily baisis, like business calendar, poweramp, mx player etc. but I do find root useful for ntfs micro sdcard, especially when a file is bigger than 10GBs.
but what I really liked about a custom rom was editing minor things, having 8 icons along the screen horizontally. instead of what right now, 4? also all apps are HUGE dpi. I feel like when I load my mail. every mother fcker can read it from 5 metres away from me lol..

Ill Probably try it but wont stay with it. Lately on my s4 ive been preferring modded TW roms and will probably continue that with the N3
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Not Cyano itself, but I'm waiting for an AOSP derivate, SlimBean.
I don't want to even see Samsung's bloatware ever again.

I'm done with rooting and adding ROMs. I've rooted just about every phone I've owned, and they've never ran 100%. Something always had an issue and not running properly. Today's phone are almost perfect anyway. The Note 3 is bad ass just the way it is! If I do anything to it, it's maybe using Themer to give it a fresh look, but that's it?

elevul said:
Not Cyano itself, but I'm waiting for an AOSP derivate, SlimBean.
I don't want to even see Samsung's bloatware ever again.
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+1

I have been pretty impressed with the performance of the GN3 even after rooting. I am also using the s-pen functionality a lot more than i anticipated. I doubt there is any need to go the CM route.
A little off point, but someone mentioned they hadnt rooted yet. I had gone a week without rooting and was fine, but i had to root for tethering (havent installed an app yet though). So far, i have also included quite a bit of additional apps for the Pen Window - VERY handy.

I just need a ROM that will allow tethering.
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I will just to try it out but touch wiz has a lot of useful features that are too give to pass up. I will end up switching between the two.
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lm that guy said:
I will just to try it out but touch wiz has a lot of useful features that are too give to pass up. I will end up switching between the two.
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what are these features?
I really hope Samsung implements LG KnockOn gesture though... to save me from pressing the hardware buttons again and again

Maybe a stupid question, but why are we not seeing any AOSP roms at this time ? With other devices they appeared much faster. Dont get me wrong, no trolling on ETA. Cant wait to see this beast (snapdragon 800) run stock android

I'm just waiting to be able to root my phone without voiding its warranty due to KNOX :/

wilflare said:
what are these features?
I really hope Samsung implements LG KnockOn gesture though... to save me from pressing the hardware buttons again and again
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multi window, pen window, air view, S note to name a few. And I generally like the look of touchwiz as well.

lm that guy said:
multi window, pen window, air view, S note to name a few. And I generally like the look of touchwiz as well.
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hmm does multi-window work with all apps?
hmm I do like Air Command though.
never used/tried S Note or Scrapbooker