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Where's the Wi-Fi love!

This is mostly just me, after a whole 24 hours of being a Note 10.1 owner (woot, go me) being annoyed that its the 3G owners that have gotten all the update goodies!
Germany got theirs a month ago, UK got theirs today... but only the 8000 models.
In theory this would mean that the 8010/8013 models will get released in Germany first, and then in the UK a month after that...
I really really *really* hope that this is not the case though. For this would be... vexing.
Saying that, I'll probably end up rooting and putting the uk 8000 rom onto my tablet anyway, as I am an impatient soul. But it is the principle of the thing that counts!
I think the reason this whole thing bothered me is this poll I saw the other day - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871383
If the 3G model was the most popular, then prioritising that firmware would make sense. It seems as though the WiFi models are by far the most prolific though!
OR.... WiFi users are more likely to answer polls.
Keep wishing hard guys, maybe we will get an update soon. and then hopefully someone will finally do a non-8000 custom rom!!

I have just decided to enjoy what I have for now. 8010 update before Christmas at some time will be fine with me. I dumped an iPad and a transformer 101 for my note and one for my other half. We are pleased.
Being a software developer I know the importance of good testing and would rather wait than have to put up with junk. Just my tuppence worth.

mace242 said:
I have just decided to enjoy what I have for now. 8010 update before Christmas at some time will be fine with me. I dumped an iPad and a transformer 101 for my note and one for my other half. We are pleased.
Being a software developer I know the importance of good testing and would rather wait than have to put up with junk. Just my tuppence worth.
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Makes sense, I also came from an iPad (the original one) and upgraded to a Note. Is quite a difference!

I'm a happy new owner also & very eager to get buttery smoothness on this fantastic piece of kit! hope we not waiting too long

I had enough couldn't wait anymore flashed the German jellybean on my 8010 couldn't be happier. I couldn't stand the lag on ICS, jellybean so smoooothhh don't care much for the feature smoothness was the most important.
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mafia187 said:
I had enough couldn't wait anymore flashed the German jellybean on my 8010 couldn't be happier. I couldn't stand the lag on ICS, jellybean so smoooothhh don't care much for the feature smoothness was the most important.
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is that the German 8000 firmware? what are the drawbacks?

goodie said:
is that the German 8000 firmware? what are the drawbacks?
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Yep the 8000 firmware, I don't notice any drawbacks. It's stable like ics, a lot smoother, battery life same as ics 3days 10.5hrs screen. The only thing is you gotta set govonor on-demand
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i want some wifi love too :crying:
i would like to have more developing for this tablet

Only real noticeable drawback is that if you use a USB toggle to connect a wireless keyboard or mouse it will drop signal on the German OTA. Other than that and the OnDemand thing as mentioned earlier it works fine on the 8013.
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mafia187 said:
Yep the 8000 firmware, I don't notice any drawbacks. It's stable like ics, a lot smoother, battery life same as ics 3days 10.5hrs screen. The only thing is you gotta set govonor on-demand
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So that's the 8000 firmware on a 8010 Note? I understood there were issues with the ROM looking for hardware that doesn't exist. Sorry for bringing this up again, I like my Note and don't want to stuff it up.

sencafe said:
So that's the 8000 firmware on a 8010 Note? I understood there were issues with the ROM looking for hardware that doesn't exist. Sorry for bringing this up again, I like my Note and don't want to stuff it up.
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I'm using "Team Union Rom" 8000 on my 8010 wifi without any problems what's so ever. All you have to do is use SetCPU which comes with the Rom to scaling: on-demand and check set on boot. No os issues, no random reboot all fine.
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I'm pretty peev'd about this too. Can't believe that a non-3G device is getting the updates last of all. Surely theres no modem nor carrier testing to worry about so it should have actually been the first to be released?
I REALLY want to use the features of 4.1.1 and am refusing to utilise my Note properly until I get the official update.
COMEONE SAMSUNG!! Pull yer finger out!

mafia187 said:
I'm using "Team Union Rom" 8000 on my 8010 wifi without any problems what's so ever. All you have to do is use SetCPU which comes with the Rom to scaling: on-demand and check set on boot. No os issues, no random reboot all fine.
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+1 on this. This rom runs perfectly on our wifi devices

I dont want to be forced to ROOT my device though unfortunately (I have a SGS3 for all my custom ROM business lol)
Got apps that won't work if ROOT is enabled on my device, and as I intend to use this note 10.1 for work related stuff its going to be essential having a stock ROM........

What apps won't work on your SGS3 since root? I have yet to find anything whether it be on my note or my SGS3 that don't work...
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bkeaver said:
What apps won't work on your SGS3 since root? I have yet to find anything whether it be on my note or my SGS3 that don't work...
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DME for Enterprise (Work exchange emails) - That's because the administrator has set it to not allow ROOTED or Jailbroken devices. (I know its because I set it up lol!)
There is a work around but I care not to implement it as it still means turning a security feature off which is not worth it just for my sake!!.
Anyway - Anyone wanting to 'voice their concern' regarding no JB for 8010 users - please post on samsung page here:
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
(Look for post Entitled: GALAXY Note 10.1 gets Premium Suite update. Packs enhanced multitasking, new S Pen-optimized features and Android Jelly Bean.)

Good for Enterprise won't work on rooted phones when the no root policy is in effect.

zoomee said:
DME for Enterprise (Work exchange emails) - That's because the administrator has set it to not allow ROOTED or Jailbroken devices. (I know its because I set it up lol!)
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hehehe, I did the same thing on my servers

bkeaver said:
+1 on this. This rom runs perfectly on our wifi devices
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same here - runs perfect now, went through two or three complete shutdowns though, now only goes to sleep as it should do...using SetCPU with scaling on-demand and check set on boot - evrythinx fine now...

I'm also a new owner of this tablet(closing in on 3 weeks). I have a Galaxy Nexus, so I know what it feels like to get updates fast. It's a little troublesome waiting for Samsung to update this device. I told myself that I wouldn't complain since Google probably takes around the same amount of time putting together updates, but they have the luxury of seeming fast by putting them out first. What I don't understand is why Samsung is releasing the JB update for the the 3G version first. This may be due to my ignorance, if so please excuse it, but I thought it would be easier to update the WiFi version especially considering they're pretty much done the development of it.

Ordered my Nexus 4!

Hey guys!,
Some might have seen my earlier post in which I didn't know which phone I should take. It was between the Nexus 4 and S3, well today I made the ultimate decision and went with the!....NEXUS 4
So I would like to ask: When I get the phone, what is the first thing to do? Recommended apps. Amazing widgets etc?
I'm really exited as it's also my first Android/Smart-phone currently have a Samsung Star so yeah

ZyreHD said:
Hey guys!,
Some might have seen my earlier post in which I didn't know which phone I should take. It was between the Nexus 4 and S3, well today I made the ultimate decision and went with the!....NEXUS 4
So I would like to ask: When I get the phone, what is the first thing to do? Recommended apps. Amazing widgets etc?
I'm really exited as it's also my first Android/Smart-phone currently have a Samsung Star so yeah
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i would unlock the bootloader first, this will result in a full wipe, then flash a custom recovery, then ... have fun and try out some roms

Good decision . Samsung Phones have always the same bugs since the S1. I'm shure you will be satisfied

Hello guy!
When you get the phone, IMHO, you MUST read the XDA's guides for unlock and root your terminal...then you can install Titanium Backup, ES File Explorer and CPU spy...un amazing widget is One More Clock...ENJOY!

I might root it but not directly. What can I do first?
:laugh: very exited!

You should do the boring root/bootloader unlocking first. It takes around 10 minutes, and it'll format everything. If you do it while you have a thousand apps installed, you'll lose them all and go back to the way it was on day one.
As for the rest, I installed emulators on mine, I can finally play Majora's Mask (I was so jealous of my friends when I was 9 because everyone but me had a nintendo 64...), and I do it in the train!

SGS_elko said:
Good decision . Samsung Phones have always the same bugs since the S1. I'm shure you will be satisfied
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Couldn't agree more (switched to N4 from S3)...

It does sound like something fun .
How is CM 10.1 on the Nexus 4? I do know some guys who did that but what are the benefits? I thought CM was just like stock Android.
Does CM 10.1 also have the quick toggles in the notification bar like the S3 has? Those green toggles?

Why do newbies always go for cm? Must be the cool animation at boot up.
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Try out different ROMs. Popular ones are ParanoidAndroid, CM10.1, liquid smooth, etc. I have PA and absolutely love it.
If you want to combine PA, cm10.1, and AOKP ROMs all together in a single ROM, try out the PACmon ROM. I personally haven't tried it.
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jamesc760 said:
Why do newbies always go for cm? Must be the cool animation at boot up.
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CM is popular, trustworthy and close to stock so if you were new the better question would be why wouldn't you go for CM? It's the least daunting one, especially if you're worried about flashing and stuff.

[Q] Some questions about installing a custom ROM on my Nexus 4

I know there might be so many threads asking questions about Custom ROMs and mine is going to be no different.
I have few questions about Custom ROMs & Moreover, one of my good friends has been trying to convince me to install a Custom ROM on my Nexus 4. He has done the same on his Nexus 4 and is really happy with it.
First of all, what advantages does a custom ROM has over stock ROM? (a little bit of details would be really really appreciated)
Second, if I am going to install one, I would really love to know what options I have & how much good & bad they are.
At last, I would welcome any other suggestions or tips.
Hope you will have a good day!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180999
That will help.
Basically all of the ROMs, except that Optimus G port, will be fully functional. Your task will be to try a few, figure out which options you want and decide on the one you want. We cannot tell you what is good for you.
Start with Paranoid Android, CM and AOKP if you want loads of features.

My approach towards custom ROM is more about getting better software on my phone. With Nexus4, you can be assured that you will get the latest software always, but Better? Not always. CustomROM follow non-traditional approach avoiding bloatwares (not any for nexus I believe), optimizing for the performance and/or battery life, providing more functions and S/W upgrades.
I haven't flashed custom ROM yet on my Nexus 4, because simply I don't have any reason for it. I am happy with stock android, with battery life & with the performance of my handset.
Apart from all this, there is one more aspect,'Personal interest'. If you have that, go ahead, there are plenty of good options waiting for your attention on XDA

This will help as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284384&highlight=rom+advantage

2-3 features I absolutely love which will probably never make into stock roms are -
Sweep2wake - buttons have limited life, and because this Nexus 4 doesn't have warranty in India, it matters a lot. I just sweep on the screen to activate it. And tap on a notification to lock it.
Pie Controls (I have completely disabled the navigation bar. I have a full 4.7 inch content screen)
CM Profiles - can't appreciate this enough. Very useful to filter out notifications during night when you want minimal distribution.
Keeping features aside, I have over clocked the cpu to 1.7 Ghz.
And Linaro patches for tool chain with which the rom is compiled, improves smoothness and battery life.
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ankurk said:
I know there might be so many threads asking questions about Custom ROMs and mine is going to be no different.
I have few questions about Custom ROMs & Moreover, one of my good friends has been trying to convince me to install a Custom ROM on my Nexus 4. He has done the same on his Nexus 4 and is really happy with it.
First of all, what advantages does a custom ROM has over stock ROM? (a little bit of details would be really really appreciated)
Second, if I am going to install one, I would really love to know what options I have & how much good & bad they are.
At last, I would welcome any other suggestions or tips.
Hope you will have a good day!
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If you decide to install ParanoidAndroid you get customizable navbar and notification bar. You can set the heigh of the navbar and also the backgroundcolor and iconcolor for both bars. PA have HybridSettings. You can display the calendar app on your smartphone like it would be on a tablet.
I tried CM and PA and i'm now on PA because of the customisations and the better implemented pie. Both are very stable and the battery is for me like with stock.
But there are a lot of ROMs and like already said you have to find "your" ROM

First of all, I apologize for replying late. Secondly, thanks for your answers, they helped me a lot. I actually have one more question,
I want as much as customization and little bit more battery life, which ROM is really good for that?
Moreover, is there any comprehensive list of custom ROMs for Nexus 4?

Once you go custom rom, you will never return to stock rom. Go for it. You won't regret it.
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ankurk said:
First of all, I apologize for replying late. Secondly, thanks for your answers, they helped me a lot. I actually have one more question,
I want as much as customization and little bit more battery life, which ROM is really good for that?
Moreover, is there any comprehensive list of custom ROMs for Nexus 4?
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Battery life is similar between most roms. Custom kernels play a larger role in battery.
ROMs based on AOKP generally have the most customization settings. These include liquid smooth, carbon, etc...
Heres a directory of roms for the n4, but its best to just go through the Android Development/Original Android Development section and look for one you like.

badboy47 said:
Once you go custom rom, you will never return to stock rom. Go for it. You won't regret it.
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I beg to differ
I downgraded my GNex back to 4.1. It lags so badly with 4.2

exb0 said:
I beg to differ
I downgraded my GNex back to 4.1. It lags so badly with 4.2
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my gnex flies on 4.2.2.

simms22 said:
my gnex flies on 4.2.2.
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You must be doing something right then! On CM10.1 , after about a week of usage, it would take me about a minute to start up ANY apps. It's ridiculous. Oh well.

exb0 said:
You must be doing something right then! On CM10.1 , after about a week of usage, it would take me about a minute to start up ANY apps. It's ridiculous. Oh well.
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i run rasbean/rassaber with the trinity kernel. using the phone(not benchmarking), its hard to tell if its any slower than my nexus 4.

simms22 said:
i run rasbean/rassaber with the trinity kernel. using the phone(not benchmarking), its hard to tell if its any slower than my nexus 4.
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hmm, I'll give it a try. It feels a LOT slower than my N4. Not sure why..

exb0 said:
hmm, I'll give it a try. It feels a LOT slower than my N4. Not sure why..
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if you try it, let me know how it goes for you, i think youll like it.

simms22 said:
if you try it, let me know how it goes.
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Perhaps in awhile. My girlfriend is using it and she's a huge PA fan. She wiped my phone without me knowing to flash PA.. :C
Sent from Halo.

exb0 said:
Perhaps in awhile. My girlfriend is using it and she's a huge PA fan. She wiped my phone without me knowing to flash PA.. :C
Sent from Halo.
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ha

Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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g2uzer said:
Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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Google wallet will warn you. Others would stay.
No, I keep it on the phone or my computer.
Sent from Halo.

g2uzer said:
Don't want to steal this thread but if you root do you loose any functionality ?for example Google wallet , photosphere or the android beam feature ? I only rooted a g2x and im kind of nervous rooting my nexus 4 especially because it don't have a removable SD card , when you back up your current ROM, do you up load it to a cloud service so you can get it later if needed ?
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Rooting does not take away anything, except DRM keys.
You can always download factory image and flash it using fast boot. Factory image is available at Google.
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Hello Fellow S4 Users!!!

Hey all!!!
I've made my return to XDA after about a year of using an old blackberry when my last HTCrap broke.. I was so sad without my android I spent time fussing with my iPad Mini and it wasn't the same!
So over the weekend I finally switched from T-Mobile to AT&T and I couldn't be happier with my service (the LTE is FAST!!) nor the phone cause this S4 is such a treat as I'm sure you all know.
So as I try to get settled back into what was the daily XDA grind of helping fellow users and always trying to gain knowledge of our device and anything Android I felt it would benefit me if I could get a jump start in my new community!
I have a few questions that I know I can/will answer myself but I would value all and any input from you guys
So first off... What's gone wrong with the ROOT???? I was so excited when the S3 came out boot loader unlocked already and all... I had even pre ordered that one at one point.. But here it seems there is only a select percent of users who have attained root on their phone? Seems as if we as a community haven't quite unlocked our phones full potential yet!!
My next question stems from that last question. How is the development scene looking for our device?
I know the Samsung legacy has been a very attractive platform for some wonderful developers in the past, and that was something I was looking forward to with the S3 and is still true for my S4! My question is how good is our outlook?
Anyways other than that just little questions I have that I am sure i'll figure out as I get back into it all
Any good apps you guys could recommend that have maybe gained a footing in the past few months?
That's guys and I can't wait to get to start poking around and helping out as our device gets rolling!!!
Cheers!
Matt
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Oh and also guys!!!
This is my first Samsung phone I have had all HTCraps ever since my G1 it was all those htcs!!!! So even though I've read lots about the odin and that USB Jig thing and all that from the S2 days and such I don't quite understand what that is and why it is that we have to pay attention to such on our Sammie's... So if anyone could point me in the direction of a good guide to learning that maybe I would be much appreciative!!!
Thanks!!
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A lot will depend on which firmware you have. If you have mdl or mdb your pretty much good to go. BUT, take your SIM out now and do some research. If you have mf3 you only can root, no custom recovery or flashing roms.
Edit, and no odin back to stock. Very important to consider.
Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42320391

jd1639 said:
A lot will depend on which firmware you have. If you have mdl or mdb your pretty much good to go. BUT, take your SIM out now and do some research. If you have mf3 you only can root, no custom recovery or flashing roms.
Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42320391
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Thanks! I've read that and I do have MF3 I forgot to mention that above. Unfortunately I will have to wait it seems. Thank you!
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I would enable the Google keyboard instead of using the Samsung one. It has swipe built in and works better and also recommend setting chrome as the default browser because the stock one is nice but acts funny with the yahoo news widget when reading articles.
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galaxyjeff said:
I would enable the Google keyboard instead of using the Samsung one. It has swipe built in and works better and also recommend setting chrome as the default browser because the stock one is nice but acts funny with the yahoo news widget when reading articles.
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I'm enjoying the samsung keyboard quite a lot actually it has swipe.... and the only Google keyboard I see is the typical google voice input.
I enjoy the keyboard so much i switched from Swiftkey!
And of course Chrome or nothing!!
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I'm enjoying the samsung keyboard quite a lot actually it has swipe.... and the only Google keyboard I see is the typical google voice input.
I enjoy the keyboard so much i switched from Swiftkey!
And of course Chrome or nothing!!
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Wait until it constantly puts the wrong word in. I liked it too but got tired of the inaccuracy of it.
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Just switched from the m8

Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way... Swapping ROMs improve it though.
Welcome to the Note 4, I'm sure you'll love it!

Let us know how your experience goes.
I really love my Note 4. I am currently running Infamous ROM 2.8 and the performance is incredible. It blows the stock ROM out of the water.

Welcome to a real camera

I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.

keasey said:
I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.
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Go a week or more and then decide which apps you'd like to freeze or leave alone.
Should be enough time to get a feel for it and decide which apps you like.

I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Rayan said:
Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way...
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Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.

Towle said:
Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.
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Oh I know that, but I meant rooting alone does not degrade the experience. As you rightfully said, the experience can be improved drastically while rooted even on stock firmware.
Cheers ?
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tommason1968 said:
I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Take a look around the Q&A and General sections. Most questions you have, already have been asked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/google-s-voice-t2910499

i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.

fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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The battery has no problem lasting all day
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I would definitely root and flash a ROM asap. Stock rom is ok but any of the TouchWiz ROM for T Mobile will flat out just feel snappier.

Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.

tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.

fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Where did you hear that the battery life isn't good?
I typically get 2.5 days per full charge with between 4.5 and 6 hours of screen on time per charge depending on if I am reading, or doing media (games, youtube).
If anything I would wait for the Note 5, but that will be a while. I'd suggest getting the Note 4 because it's quite simply a very amazing beast of a phone and then using JUMP to upgrade in 6 months if you so desire.

fix-this! said:
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Roflmao lag ok
fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Battery is great I got 2 days or more with 7 to 9 hours of screen time

Android_Monsters said:
Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.
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Compared to the process of rooting a htc how difficult is it to root the note 4
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It's way easier to root the note 4:
You're in in 5.
Here are the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
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Had to do one at my parents house.
It took me 10 minutes because I was downloading a rom, at the same time, and my parents internet sucks.

fix-this! said:
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Which Best Buy? From what I've seen at nearly all my local Best Buy they only have dummy phones and none of them carry t mobile phones