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All Rooted and no where to go!

I Feel like im stuck, i have the Sprint GT. Seems there is minimal development for the Sprint GT and having an HTC EVO and using the EVO forums I'm sad.. I would gladly open my wallet as i do in the EVO forums here in the GT forums. Anybody out there feeling my same pain?

I feel your pain. I think I've only a few rooted apps working on my Sprint Tab. Not the end of the world but my Moto Droid is more fun to play with. I'm something of a hack so I don't even know if it's possible to unlock the bootloader but it would be nice to have a few other apps working like the Wireless Tether.

Sprint Tab
I understand completely. I bought a Sprint Tab and was shocked at the lack of development (came from incredible which is very similar to Evo). However, after root, CWM, voodoo, and custom kernel, I can say that I don't really desire to do anything else to my Tab. I cleaned up some bloatware myself (freeze/delete) and it runs like a dream. BTW, see this thread if you need help with anything besides root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016758
So don't be too disappointed, with some minor changes (VOODOO!!!) you won't need a custom rom. App performance, battery life, and general usage are all terrific now.

SDW90808 said:
I feel your pain. I think I've only a few rooted apps working on my Sprint Tab. Not the end of the world but my Moto Droid is more fun to play with. I'm something of a hack so I don't even know if it's possible to unlock the bootloader but it would be nice to have a few other apps working like the Wireless Tether.
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Did you try the one click root method?

nsmal24 said:
I understand completely. I bought a Sprint Tab and was shocked at the lack of development (came from incredible which is very similar to Evo). However, after root, CWM, voodoo, and custom kernel, I can say that I don't really desire to do anything else to my Tab. I cleaned up some bloatware myself (freeze/delete) and it runs like a dream. BTW, see this thread if you need help with anything besides root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016758
So don't be too disappointed, with some minor changes (VOODOO!!!) you won't need a custom rom. App performance, battery life, and general usage are all terrific now.
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Thanks for the great info! I would really be happy if i could eventually have honeycomb on my GT. Im super happy with performance and size but it looks like all of the alpha and soon to be beta versions for the GT are all GSM or for Verizon. Well i said all that because my 30 trial is up in a few weeks and i dont want to be stuck with 2.2. But im gonna give Voodoo a try, just need to read up on it entirely. Thanks again!

Why don't you try overcome custom rom?
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Why don't you try overcome custom rom?
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I may need to search harder not sure i saw overcome for Sprint.
Thanks..

Honestly guys, aside from Spacemonkey's HC port, there's not much support for the VZW Tab either. All I have are a few root apps, and CWM, which is virtually useless without development. The Xoom already has custom kernels, but nobody seems to be able to get behind the GT on any level. Kinda disappointing, but I'll check out Voodoo, and maybe give that a shot.
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I'm also curious where you got a sprint overcome rom.

Why a custom ROM instead of debloated Stock?

I've had my RAZR M since March and love it. So much more powerful than my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. I'm not new to flashing ROMs or overclocking, having begun my Android experience with the LG Ally and Eclair.
In my previous experience, there was a huge need for customizing the phone because the stock version as provided by Verizon was less than stable and/or slower than desirable. But this RAZR M seems awesome once you get rid of the bloat. I haven't had any issues with lag, connectivity, apps, etc. It's really a decent phone for my purposes.
I have already unlocked the boot loader and rooted it, backed it up, blown it away, customized stock, used Matt's utility to restore it, used rsdlite, etc. I've even scared the crap out of myself with a few soft bricks. Now I want to do more.
When I look at the threads for the various ROMs, I've noticed they are all pretty similar and they all tend to break something. Since most seem to be a derivative of JB, I see little reason to be tempted by them. Just a different roll of the same thing.
Obviously, I'm overlooking something here, some reason other than "because I can" that makes using a custom ROM version of generic JB better than stock JB. How is 4.2.2 different than 4.1.2 for instance? If custom is less stable or has some unresolved feature issues, how is it still better than stock? Is over clocking necessary (as it was with the Ally and the Play), or even noticeable? I would really appreciate some useful and honest feedback here. No wisecracks, please. This is a serious inquiry.
Thank you for your kind attention.
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netizenmt said:
I've had my RAZR M since March and love it. So much more powerful than my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. I'm not new to flashing ROMs or overclocking, having begun my Android experience with the LG Ally and Eclair.
In my previous experience, there was a huge need for customizing the phone because the stock version as provided by Verizon was less than stable and/or slower than desirable. But this RAZR M seems awesome once you get rid of the bloat. I haven't had any issues with lag, connectivity, apps, etc. It's really a decent phone for my purposes.
I have already unlocked the boot loader and rooted it, backed it up, blown it away, customized stock, used Matt's utility to restore it, used rsdlite, etc. I've even scared the crap out of myself with a few soft bricks. Now I want to do more.
When I look at the threads for the various ROMs, I've noticed they are all pretty similar and they all tend to break something. Since most seem to be a derivative of JB, I see little reason to be tempted by them. Just a different roll of the same thing.
Obviously, I'm overlooking something here, some reason other than "because I can" that makes using a custom ROM version of generic JB better than stock JB. How is 4.2.2 different than 4.1.2 for instance? If custom is less stable or has some unresolved feature issues, how is it still better than stock? Is over clocking necessary (as it was with the Ally and the Play), or even noticeable? I would really appreciate some useful and honest feedback here. No wisecracks, please. This is a serious inquiry.
Thank you for your kind attention.
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Personally, I just wanted something new and different than stock. I got my M when it first came out and didn't flash any roms until this past month. The big differences that I have noticed running a 4.2.2 based rom are that the camera seems to respond quicker, and when I set defaults they stick through reboot.
The problem with the defaults was one of my biggest gripes with the stock rom. Every time that I would reboot my phone, the defaults would clear and that drove me crazy.
Now as far as problems that I have noticed on the 4.2.2 roms, the only one that I really have is with recording video. It does not seem to want to pick up audio correctly and you can barely hear anything on playback. Also the front facing camera doesn't work for recording videos.
On the plus side of custom roms is that you do get more options to get the ui to look and feel how you want it to. And no, you don't have to over clock on this phone.
The best thing that I could say is flash carbon or pacman rom and play with it for a day or two and see how you like it.

netizenmt said:
I've had my RAZR M since March and love it. So much more powerful than my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. I'm not new to flashing ROMs or overclocking, having begun my Android experience with the LG Ally and Eclair.
In my previous experience, there was a huge need for customizing the phone because the stock version as provided by Verizon was less than stable and/or slower than desirable. But this RAZR M seems awesome once you get rid of the bloat. I haven't had any issues with lag, connectivity, apps, etc. It's really a decent phone for my purposes.
I have already unlocked the boot loader and rooted it, backed it up, blown it away, customized stock, used Matt's utility to restore it, used rsdlite, etc. I've even scared the crap out of myself with a few soft bricks. Now I want to do more.
When I look at the threads for the various ROMs, I've noticed they are all pretty similar and they all tend to break something. Since most seem to be a derivative of JB, I see little reason to be tempted by them. Just a different roll of the same thing.
Obviously, I'm overlooking something here, some reason other than "because I can" that makes using a custom ROM version of generic JB better than stock JB. How is 4.2.2 different than 4.1.2 for instance? If custom is less stable or has some unresolved feature issues, how is it still better than stock? Is over clocking necessary (as it was with the Ally and the Play), or even noticeable? I would really appreciate some useful and honest feedback here. No wisecracks, please. This is a serious inquiry.
Thank you for your kind attention.
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on the surface, you are correct. however, there are some custom ROMs that give us JB 4.2.2 before it is officially released to us. here's a link to the new features: http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
so, in addition to the new features, some custom ROMs offer various mods/tweaks. some claim to give better battery performance, others block ads, others reduce lag (although, that is mostly kernel related). so, just as calbrs stated, give one of them a try for a few days (make a nandroid of your current setup first though), and see how you like it.
problem for me though, as much I as should be on 4.1.2, I really enjoy being on the latest/greatest build, as I get to experience more features. and so long as my battery performance doesn't suffer too much, I'll stick on 4.2.2 for now.

Well, I've tried both Carbon and PAC and then settled on PAC. Quite honestly, I don't see a whole lot of actual performance difference. It IS cool to be running a custom ROM though. PIE is a pain as it always seems to pop up when I don't want it but has that What's That factor if you want to wow someone. And I do like having a custom lockscreen. Otherwise.... I guess I don't get it.
But then again, maybe I'm just old! Lol!
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netizenmt said:
Well, I've tried both Carbon and PAC and then settled on PAC. Quite honestly, I don't see a whole lot of actual performance difference. It IS cool to be running a custom ROM though. PIE is a pain as it always seems to pop up when I don't want it but has that What's That factor if you want to wow someone. And I do like having a custom lockscreen. Otherwise.... I guess I don't get it.
But then again, maybe I'm just old! Lol!
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in terms of 4.2.2 over 4.1.2, correct - it's mostly aesthetics. but the performance is hardly noticeable since the M is already fairly quick.
some custom 4.1.2 ROMs, however, do offer better battery life (in part due to debloating, others have tweaks).
but if the performance difference is negligible to you, then why not stick to 4.2.2?
also, did you try the unofficial AOKP?
finally, some of these custom ROMs also have the latest kernels, which can help in terms of keeping your data connection.

netizenmt said:
Well, I've tried both Carbon and PAC and then settled on PAC. Quite honestly, I don't see a whole lot of actual performance difference. It IS cool to be running a custom ROM though. PIE is a pain as it always seems to pop up when I don't want it but has that What's That factor if you want to wow someone. And I do like having a custom lockscreen. Otherwise.... I guess I don't get it.
But then again, maybe I'm just old! Lol!
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I'd suggest you try Dhacker29's PA or CM. IMO much snappier than PAC.
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I agree most roms are not as good as stock. The #2 on that poll is here on xda.

Leraeniesh said:
I'd suggest you try Dhacker29's PA or CM. IMO much snappier than PAC.
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CM says its camcorder is broken, so I had not tried it. I can't seem to find PA but I'll look some more.
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netizenmt said:
CM says its camcorder is broken, so I had not tried it. I can't seem to find PA but I'll look some more.
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The OP hasn't been updated in ages. Everything in VM and PA works fine (NFC is a little sketchy)
You can find builds at http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29
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Because we can
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Because we can
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There... someone finally said it. Probably didn't even read the OP, didja?
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netizenmt said:
There... someone finally said it. Probably didn't even read the OP, didja?
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Of course I read the original post that's why I worded it as I did. Poor attempt at humor or should have thrown in an emoticon to make that clear.
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PantherVT said:
Of course I read the original post that's why I worded it as I did. Poor attempt at humor or should have thrown in an emoticon to make that clear.
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Lol, I was being funny back. Sometimes humor just doesn't come across in texts. It's all good, man!!
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Well, after a week of ROM testing, here is what the results have been so far:
Carbon comes out on top in a very close battle with Slimbean. What made the difference? Support. Slimbean is actually the better of the 2 ROMs in so many areas, but no updates since May 2013 means important tweaks and a functional camcorder are missing. Carbon is kept current, so if something is fixed in the Base version, it won't be long until we see it in Carbon.
I also worked with PAC, Paranoid, AOKP and CM 10.1. Each had its merits but were eliminated for various reasons. I did not look at any ROM that was not a 4.2.2 version.
I must confess, if Slimbean is ever updated to the latest 4.2.2 version, I will be taking another look.
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netizenmt said:
Well, after a week of ROM testing, here is what the results have been so far:
Carbon comes out on top in a very close battle with Slimbean. What made the difference? Support. Slimbean is actually the better of the 2 ROMs in so many areas, but no updates since May 2013 means important tweaks and a functional camcorder are missing. Carbon is kept current, so if something is fixed in the Base version, it won't be long until we see it in Carbon.
I also worked with PAC, Paranoid, AOKP and CM 10.1. Each had its merits but were eliminated for various reasons. I did not look at any ROM that was not a 4.2.2 version.
I must confess, if Slimbean is ever updated to the latest 4.2.2 version, I will be taking another look.
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so what was your reason for eliminating AOKP? this has been the best for me so far. although, I did not give carbon a fighting chance, as on first boot it was extremely laggy. but i'm re-considering....

If you have the time I would love a rom by rom review of what you did and didn't like. I'm in the market for a 4.2.2 rom and don't know where to start. I'm really looking to just settle on one and not have to try out a bunch.
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To be perfectly candid, I really can't say there was anything "wrong" with it. It just didn't catch my attention in the same manner that Slimbean and Carbon did.
Today I realized I did not try Eclipse because I erroneously thought it was a 4.1 or 4.0 version ROM. I'll be giving it a go later tonight.
Quite honestly, I think it all comes down to personal preference more than performance. Depending on what apps you use, they all are pretty similar. What runs better is really more about your own hardware, how you use it, your selection of apps and your expectations as to how the phone ought to perform.
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netizenmt said:
To be perfectly candid, I really can't say there was anything "wrong" with it. It just didn't catch my attention in the same manner that Slimbean and Carbon did.
Today I realized I did not try Eclipse because I erroneously thought it was a 4.1 or 4.0 version ROM. I'll be giving it a go later tonight.
Quite honestly, I think it all comes down to personal preference more than performance. Depending on what apps you use, they all are pretty similar. What runs better is really more about your own hardware, how you use it, your selection of apps and your expectations as to how the phone ought to perform.
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agreed.
Eclipse has both 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 available.
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Jersey846 said:
If you have the time I would love a rom by rom review of what you did and didn't like. I'm in the market for a 4.2.2 rom and don't know where to start. I'm really looking to just settle on one and not have to try out a bunch.
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I'll give my experience, but to each their own:
PACMan:
most customizable, very stable, worst on battery life, dev is pretty good at posting updates (he only posts when there is a significant update)
AOKP:
very customizable, fairly stable, best battery life, dev is very responsive, interactive, and post updates daily
Carbon:
very customizable, most stable, dev is very responsive, interactive, and post updates daily;
CM10.1:
(stock, basically): haven't tried it
Slimbean:
very customizable, dev is non-existent; however, I gave this a go for about an hour as well, but dismissed it due to lack of customization when compared to PACMan
Orion:
very customizable, very stable, dev is very responsive, interactive, and post updates routinely; however, I gave this a go for about a day, but did not like the blackout themes/sounds/etc. but that was awhile ago, so I certainly owe this ROM another chance
Eclipse:
haven't tried it
Axoim
haven't tried it
JellyBeer
haven't tried it

This is perfect! Before reading this I was leaning to AOKP or Cyanogen. I like how customizable AOKP is and I like the updates and stability from Cyanogen. (from what I've read) I want a rom that is stable stable stable as I wouldn't consider myself a power user. Thanks for posting this!
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See what I mean though. He dismissed Slimbean because it was not as customizable as PACman. I dismissed PACman as being too complicated, too customizable!
Hate to tell you this, Jersey846, but you probably will need to try a few yourself before you know what's right for you.
BTW, thus far Eclipse is proving to be very stable. I haven't had any noticeable lag, signal seems stable and comparable to what I normally see in my area. Looking good so far!
Orion, eh... Have to check that out...
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Hello Fellow S4 Users!!!

Hey all!!!
I've made my return to XDA after about a year of using an old blackberry when my last HTCrap broke.. I was so sad without my android I spent time fussing with my iPad Mini and it wasn't the same!
So over the weekend I finally switched from T-Mobile to AT&T and I couldn't be happier with my service (the LTE is FAST!!) nor the phone cause this S4 is such a treat as I'm sure you all know.
So as I try to get settled back into what was the daily XDA grind of helping fellow users and always trying to gain knowledge of our device and anything Android I felt it would benefit me if I could get a jump start in my new community!
I have a few questions that I know I can/will answer myself but I would value all and any input from you guys
So first off... What's gone wrong with the ROOT???? I was so excited when the S3 came out boot loader unlocked already and all... I had even pre ordered that one at one point.. But here it seems there is only a select percent of users who have attained root on their phone? Seems as if we as a community haven't quite unlocked our phones full potential yet!!
My next question stems from that last question. How is the development scene looking for our device?
I know the Samsung legacy has been a very attractive platform for some wonderful developers in the past, and that was something I was looking forward to with the S3 and is still true for my S4! My question is how good is our outlook?
Anyways other than that just little questions I have that I am sure i'll figure out as I get back into it all
Any good apps you guys could recommend that have maybe gained a footing in the past few months?
That's guys and I can't wait to get to start poking around and helping out as our device gets rolling!!!
Cheers!
Matt
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Oh and also guys!!!
This is my first Samsung phone I have had all HTCraps ever since my G1 it was all those htcs!!!! So even though I've read lots about the odin and that USB Jig thing and all that from the S2 days and such I don't quite understand what that is and why it is that we have to pay attention to such on our Sammie's... So if anyone could point me in the direction of a good guide to learning that maybe I would be much appreciative!!!
Thanks!!
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A lot will depend on which firmware you have. If you have mdl or mdb your pretty much good to go. BUT, take your SIM out now and do some research. If you have mf3 you only can root, no custom recovery or flashing roms.
Edit, and no odin back to stock. Very important to consider.
Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42320391

jd1639 said:
A lot will depend on which firmware you have. If you have mdl or mdb your pretty much good to go. BUT, take your SIM out now and do some research. If you have mf3 you only can root, no custom recovery or flashing roms.
Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42320391
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Thanks! I've read that and I do have MF3 I forgot to mention that above. Unfortunately I will have to wait it seems. Thank you!
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I would enable the Google keyboard instead of using the Samsung one. It has swipe built in and works better and also recommend setting chrome as the default browser because the stock one is nice but acts funny with the yahoo news widget when reading articles.
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galaxyjeff said:
I would enable the Google keyboard instead of using the Samsung one. It has swipe built in and works better and also recommend setting chrome as the default browser because the stock one is nice but acts funny with the yahoo news widget when reading articles.
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I'm enjoying the samsung keyboard quite a lot actually it has swipe.... and the only Google keyboard I see is the typical google voice input.
I enjoy the keyboard so much i switched from Swiftkey!
And of course Chrome or nothing!!
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I'm enjoying the samsung keyboard quite a lot actually it has swipe.... and the only Google keyboard I see is the typical google voice input.
I enjoy the keyboard so much i switched from Swiftkey!
And of course Chrome or nothing!!
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Wait until it constantly puts the wrong word in. I liked it too but got tired of the inaccuracy of it.
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who think that jelly bean was better???

Who think that jellybean was more stable and fast and great then kitkat ????

Im on MJ7 and since the kitkat update leaked im thinking of updating but not sure because theres no going back.On MJ7 i have no issues whatsoever (at least none that i know of) battery life with powesaver is also very good 2 days.Any advice should i upgrade?

It is because it is the first release. Just wait the next KitKat version, flash it and wipe your phone, it must be better than Jellybean.

thats what i thought but it past 1 month and nothing new from sammy.. :S

Hallos,
I upgraded from mj7 yesterday. I use Crashrom v4.3 kk. It is just as stable and alot faster then JB. The only problem i encountered was that tomtom couldnt find its drawer on extSdCard. Copying it to internal SD solved it. Not a great solution but i expect it to be fixed soon. Batterylife is absoluteluly great for me, better then my JB was. Hope this helps.
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I think that na06 kitkat is just great the only downside is that there are no custom kernels for it yet,but we will get there in time.
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I just decided i wont update now im rethinking my decision..

metko said:
I just decided i wont update now im rethinking my decision..
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Same here, every day I was thinking to update. But a whispering voice said, wait and be patient.......and I will be

Pierre118 said:
Same here, every day I was thinking to update. But a whispering voice said, wait and be patient.......and I will be
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haha exactly the same situation that i have

demirlijanp said:
I think that na06 kitkat is just great the only downside is that there are no custom kernels for it yet,but we will get there in time.
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There's a couple of custom kernels available.

bubu23 said:
Who think that jellybean was more stable and fast and great then kitkat ????
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kitkat my opinion, faster, more stable, it consumes very little battery even with the stock kernel
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demirlijanp said:
I think that na06 kitkat is just great the only downside is that there are no custom kernels for it yet,but we will get there in time.
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I use as a kernel-civiz katEngime. excellent

Im very happy with the stock na1 firmware on my phone. Its an n9002 anyway so I dont have much of a choice. I'd probably stick to this firmware until something really major comes out.

Absolutely kitkat is better, more smooth yhen jelly bean. Honest opinion.
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bubu23 said:
Who think that jellybean was more stable and fast and great then kitkat ????
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The real question is not if JB was "greatest ever", the real question is if KK brings (much) more advantages than disadvantages.
JB 4.3:
- stable, extremely well tested
- no SD problem
- voice recorder
- I am on MI7 bootloader and I can install any stock Samsung 4.3 and still have Knox 0x0 and root
KK 4.4.2:
- unstable in many configurations
- new SD permisssions, many older programs have problems
- no voice recorder
- no coming back after the new bootloader
- there WILL be another KK release from Samsung to fix known problems
- only apparent advantage is better battery and somehow better latency (mostly in stock programs) - but on my 4.3 configuration I already have excellent battery (my record is 4 days and almost 10 hours of screen) and I am using programs like Apex launcher and exDialer that already have excellent latency in most of my normal tasks.
So for the moment I am staying with 4.3. and being very happy with it
EDIT:
Also an advantage of KK is the fact that there seems to be more free memory (which IMHO is just the video driver no longer reserving stuff in advance). But since I have most of the stuff that I do not use frozen in Titanium Backup I have plenty of memory for the moment (I am coming from an i9300 where you were basically getting less than 800MB in total, around 300MB free in stock-derived ROMs, so from under 300MB to 1000+ is kind of OK for my immediate needs )

Im also holding back to upgrade to KK,
I've got no issues so far with my rooted MK2. I know there's no turning back once you jumped shipped to KK, so i'm patiently waiting for a more stable release before i let my itchy hands loose

I'm perfectly happy on 4.3.
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I'm playing with the idea. One day I want it. Next I don't. . Purely based on user reviews and personal experience using Stock 4.4 in another device.
Waiting on BTU update. . Frustrating!
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ShadowLea said:
I'm perfectly happy on 4.3.
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Same here. But I havent tried a kitkat rom yet

NA6 + NA7 had fixes to my previous MJ1 problems, and reacts faster to my actions.
Hence, KK for me.

I was sitting on the fence too about upgrading to KK nut as I have 2 note 3's I thought bugger it, I'll go with one of each...
Set up both Note exactly the same to see what would happen. Jb ate up arond 30% battery over 8 hours while KK only used 20%.
Overall KK was faster. it isn't majorly different eye candy but under the hood has been tweaked big time.
I never had the problems with the sd cards, the flash went off without a hitch and everything was working fine.
I gave myself 3 days to test then upgraded the other one as the experience was so much better...
Only missed some of the theme mods as most others I use worked but that has been fixed with time...
Would recommend going to KK as you will find it better, though you might nee to find the mods again that work with KK...

Just switched from the m8

Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way... Swapping ROMs improve it though.
Welcome to the Note 4, I'm sure you'll love it!

Let us know how your experience goes.
I really love my Note 4. I am currently running Infamous ROM 2.8 and the performance is incredible. It blows the stock ROM out of the water.

Welcome to a real camera

I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.

keasey said:
I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.
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Go a week or more and then decide which apps you'd like to freeze or leave alone.
Should be enough time to get a feel for it and decide which apps you like.

I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Rayan said:
Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way...
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Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.

Towle said:
Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.
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Oh I know that, but I meant rooting alone does not degrade the experience. As you rightfully said, the experience can be improved drastically while rooted even on stock firmware.
Cheers ?
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tommason1968 said:
I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Take a look around the Q&A and General sections. Most questions you have, already have been asked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/google-s-voice-t2910499

i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.

fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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The battery has no problem lasting all day
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I would definitely root and flash a ROM asap. Stock rom is ok but any of the TouchWiz ROM for T Mobile will flat out just feel snappier.

Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.

tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.

fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Where did you hear that the battery life isn't good?
I typically get 2.5 days per full charge with between 4.5 and 6 hours of screen on time per charge depending on if I am reading, or doing media (games, youtube).
If anything I would wait for the Note 5, but that will be a while. I'd suggest getting the Note 4 because it's quite simply a very amazing beast of a phone and then using JUMP to upgrade in 6 months if you so desire.

fix-this! said:
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Roflmao lag ok
fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Battery is great I got 2 days or more with 7 to 9 hours of screen time

Android_Monsters said:
Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.
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Compared to the process of rooting a htc how difficult is it to root the note 4
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It's way easier to root the note 4:
You're in in 5.
Here are the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
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Had to do one at my parents house.
It took me 10 minutes because I was downloading a rom, at the same time, and my parents internet sucks.

fix-this! said:
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Which Best Buy? From what I've seen at nearly all my local Best Buy they only have dummy phones and none of them carry t mobile phones