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Losing apps after moved to sd.

Is anybody else having the problem? After I transfered all apps to sd csrd they disappear. Happened twice already..
I am on ktoonsez ketnel with stock mf9. 64gb SanDisk micro sd.
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P1_e85 said:
Is anybody else having the problem? After I transfered all apps to sd csrd they disappear. Happened twice already..
I am on ktoonsez ketnel with stock mf9. 64gb SanDisk micro sd.
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Yep, happens to me also.
You're not really losing the app, just the icon for the link.
Remove the link and replace with the link from the application list.
It's a PITA, I know, but it works.

Still no go. That is my app drawer, I just make folders to organize.
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Nobody has any ideas?
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Try clearing your ram.
When Google talk changed to hangouts my s3 kept the shading for talk but clearing ram fixed it
In case you don't know how
Hold home button> bottom left button> press the ram tab> click clear memory
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gtuansdiamm said:
Try clearing your ram.
When Google talk changed to hangouts my s3 kept the shading for talk but clearing ram fixed it
In case you don't know how
Hold home button> bottom left button> press the ram tab> click clear memory
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I do this constantly just to free memory. . Thanks for the tip. But that didnt do it. Did I mention the apps do not even work now. Gives error saying not installed
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When this happens, check to see if your SD card is mounted ok or not. (launch your explorer app - ES explorer or MyFiles or whatever app you use to browse files) - and navigate to your SD card to see if you can access the files on it.
(or go to settings/storage/scroll-to-bottom and see if card is mounted)

I have a similar issue happen at start up. The icons are greyed out, but I can still access the application. What gets me is not every app moved to the SD card gets the greyed out icon. It doesn't seem to affect the performance, other than visually for me. The icons have been coming back at varying times, usually if I install a new app, or do some other moving around of things. Unmounting and mounting the card does not seem to have any affect on the icons.
I am new to android, but I figure as long as I can still use the app, it really doesn't bother me too much if the icon doesn't look flashy. I pretty much know where the shortcuts to them are, anyway.
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ObrienDave said:
Yep, happens to me also.
You're not really losing the app, just the icon for the link.
Remove the link and replace with the link from the application list.
It's a PITA, I know, but it works.
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I thought I tried this already, but after two reboots, the icons still seem to be showing the right way again. Cool beans.

No problems with sd card. Mounted fine and can access items with es file explorer. Would it have to do anything with my rom or kernel? Remember I have 64 gb SanDisk. Root stock mf9 with ktoonsez kernel.
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P1_e85 said:
No problems with sd card. Mounted fine and can access items with es file explorer. Would it have to do anything with my rom or kernel? Remember I have 64 gb SanDisk. Root stock mf9 with ktoonsez kernel.
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So I was having the same problem and looking for an answer as well.... Don't know if you tried this but this is what I ended up doing. I'll assume you are on a third party ROM as well as kernel as I was. Well I simply went back to the stock ROM and kernel to fix the problem. Now on reboots there is on occasion my app icons will be grayed out but once the system scans/recognizes the sd-card they usually appear.
At this point I'm not sure if it is the ROM or the kernel, but I have a feeling it is the ROM because I seem to remember running the stock kernel and third party ROM when this started to happen and tried fixing it with a third party kernel.
Hope this helps.
BTW I'm also using a 64GB SanDisk sd

OP is on stock rom. I have the same setup and problem, stock rooted MF9 with ktoonsez and only program that this is happening is Homerun Battle 2. I had to reinstall and quickly move it to internal storage and it stayed after that.

aa1rose said:
OP is on stock rom. I have the same setup and problem, stock rooted MF9 with ktoonsez and only program that this is happening is Homerun Battle 2. I had to reinstall and quickly move it to internal storage and it stayed after that.
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Don't think OP mentioned which ROM, but it is definitely the kernel. Flashed 3rd party ROM with stock kernel and no problems after reboot. Flashed a ROM that included a version of the KT kernel and lost the apps. Went back to stock kernel, reinstalled the apps and redid the move and no more lost apps.

poqeteer said:
Don't think OP mentioned which ROM, but it is definitely the kernel. Flashed 3rd party ROM with stock kernel and no problems after reboot. Flashed a ROM that included a version of the KT kernel and lost the apps. Went back to stock kernel, reinstalled the apps and redid the move and no more lost apps.
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"I am on ktoonsez ketnel with stock mf9" as stated by OP
I do agree with you. It looks to be kernel related, not rom related.

aa1rose said:
"I am on ktoonsez ketnel with stock mf9" as stated by OP
I do agree with you. It looks to be kernel related, not rom related.
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I have the exact same problem on MJ7. Apps moved to SD card are grayed out (not all of the moved apps), but they still work.
looking for a fix.

4.4.2 - Issues after update? SD Card Write fix?

Hi, I just wondered if anyone else is having issues after the Kit Kat update? Maybe we could start a list here.... I'm on the stock recovery and not rooted (and have been since day one). If you add issues, please could you tell everybody whether or not you're rooted etc.
1.Can't write files so MicroSD card using file manager apps (but I can do it if I connect the Note to a PC in MTP mode, then drag and drop files from internal to external storage
2. MC3 doesn't work - this one may bring about the end of civilisation as we know. No really, it might.
3. Stuttering when playing movies over HDMI to a TV (this was present in 4.3 too, but not 4.2.2)
4. Options to use auto-correct, double tap of the space bar etc when a hardware keyboard is connected do not work (this extra menu only appears when your keyboard is connected).
5. Various slow downs and pauses.
6. Battery life, as mentioned by foxxorrrorororors (approximate spelling)
7. GPS - still pretty bad for me, even with GPS Test....
Anybody else got the same, or perhaps other issues?
*UPDATE* I just tried a full factory reset and the microSD card write issue remains. You also can't write files to an external USB drive either. Clearly Nvidia doesn't have a very thorough procedure for testing these updates before pushing them to our devices. Muppets.
**UPDATE** If you are rooted, the tutorial in this thread fixes the write to SD card problem as far as I can tell http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921

1. jup, vlc cant access sdcard either - seems they changed something here.
2. na
3. na
4. na, using swiftkey
5. not yet
6. maybe, time will show
7. jup

wonders who this foxxoorrroxororors person you speak of is.
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foxorroxors said:
wonders who this foxxoorrroxororors person you speak of is.
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Sorry dude, I couldn't remember how to spell your username - too many letters for me
cars10k, thanks for responding - do you mean MC3 does work for your, or that you haven't tried it? Sorry if I'm being a bit dumb
Writing to Sd card was killed by Samsung in their KitKat update - apparently the permissions are set wrong in platform.xml. I don't know if this is the case for us. I can't even use Helium Backup to write to the MicroSd card. Darn.

yeah my sd cards isnt working either, moving or with es file man. that sucks i use it daily.....
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did not try MC3.
surprisingly, mx player works for me, even with files on the sdcard.

cars10k said:
did not try MC3.
surprisingly, mx player works for me, even with files on the sdcard.
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Thanks
Reading files from the MicroSD card works fine, writing does not unfortunately

foxorroxors said:
yeah my sd cards isnt working either, moving or with es file man. that sucks i use it daily.....
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Yeah, I use it daily too. Really frustrating. I'm tempted to cut my nose off to spite my face and just take the tablet back to Currys. There's no point Nvidia throwing out updates with newer versions of android and extra features if they break basic stuff in the process (USB OTG hard drive unmounting being one example of something that was broken by the 4.3 update).

foxorroxors said:
yeah my sd cards isnt working either, moving or with es file man. that sucks i use it daily.....
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I think it's actually a KitKat thing: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...at-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/
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Ouzo said:
5. Various slow downs and pauses.
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Do you mean like the whole tablet becomes unresponsive at times? You can't even get to the home screen or turn the screen off? Then after anything from 30 second to 2 minutes it just comes alive again? I was experiencing that even before the update - with very few apps installed (same as my Sammy 7.7 which never froze). I've reset to factory and haven't had it again... Yet...

cars10k said:
did not try MC3.
surprisingly, mx player works for me, even with files on the sdcard.
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Ditto for me. I keep my vids on the SD card. Watched a couple today. Oh, and I've never rooted this; still stock.

fbales said:
Ditto for me. I keep my vids on the SD card. Watched a couple today. Oh, and I've never rooted this; still stock.
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Here's a thread about how to solve the problem of not being able to write to the SD card. You need to root first though unfortunately. On the plus side there's absolutely no reason why Nvidia Shouldn't push a fix out very quickly if they are paying attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
After rooting I used ES File Explorer. Before you can do anything, in ES File explorer turn on Root Explorer in the side menu by tapping the button next to that entry, then tap on the Root Explorer text itself to enter the options menu for root access. In the menu that pops up tap "Mount R/W" and press the radio button to mount "/system" as RW, then press ok. After that you can follow the instructions to edit the Platform.xml as laid out in the link above. I used ES File Explorer's in built text editor to do this. After you've made the changes to platform.xml, you to set the correct permissions for the file, again using ES File Explorer (long press platform.xml, press the menu button in the bottom right hand corner, then tap properties) change the permissions to rw-r-r-. That should be it, in theory you can now write files to external storage.

Ouzo said:
Here's a thread about how to solve the problem of not being able to write to the SD card. You need to root first though unfortunately. On the plus side there's absolutely no reason why Nvidia Shouldn't push a fix out very quickly if they are paying attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
After rooting I used ES File Explorer. Before you can do anything, in ES File explorer turn on Root Explorer in the side menu by tapping the button next to that entry, then tap on the Root Explorer text itself to enter the options menu for root access. In the menu that pops up tap "Mount R/W" and press the radio button to mount "/system" as RW, then press ok. After that you can follow the instructions to edit the Platform.xml as laid out in the link above. I used ES File Explorer's in built text editor to do this. After you've made the changes to platform.xml, you to set the correct permissions for the file, again using ES File Explorer (long press platform.xml, press the menu button in the bottom right hand corner, then tap properties) change the permissions to rw-r-r-. That should be it, in theory you can now write files to external storage.
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Thank you, thank you. I just spent about 3 hours trying to edit the file, but I couldn't figure out how to get the permissions to do so. That did it.
Brew

Ouzo said:
Hi, I just wondered if anyone else is having issues after the Kit Kat update? Maybe we could start a list here.... I'm on the stock recovery and not rooted (and have been since day one). If you add issues, please could you tell everybody whether or not you're rooted etc...
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Clear your dalvik cache and normal cache using the recovery kernel options.

e8hffff said:
Clear your dalvik cache and normal cache using the recovery kernel options.
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Haha I just FAC reset before I read this, but everything is nice and spangly after reset, try SD card now
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foxorroxors said:
Haha I just FAC reset before I read this, but everything is nice and spangly after reset, try SD card now
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Google's KitKat is supposed to be restrictive on allowing apps to be installed to sdcard1, but you maybe able to trick installs using symbolic linked folders.

Damn this game mapper is awesome arcane legends rocks with it
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Clear your dalvik cache and normal cache using the recovery kernel options.
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Wiping dalvik cache isn't an option in the stock recovery on Kit Kat. I just looked a few mins ago. Wiping cache is there and I used it, but it still isn't solving the slow booting/loading time.

titetanium said:
Wiping dalvik cache isn't an option in the stock recovery on Kit Kat. I just looked a few mins ago. Wiping cache is there and I used it, but it still isn't solving the slow booting/loading time.
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Ok You'll need root mode and either use a custom recovery partition options.

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Ok You'll need root mode and either use a custom recovery partition options.
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That's fine, I'm not going bother with rooting, I'm rolling back to stock 4.3. This whole kit kat update left a really sour taste in my mouth and rooting the tablet just to put in a dirty hack to fix it is ugly, IMHO. The fix isn't even guaranteed to solve it completely as others have expressed other issues. At least with 4.3, I know I didn't have much problems with it, and I need my sdcard for hosting files (25GB worth) for an app that putting them in the cloud isn't workable when I can't access them on the road or at places sans wifi.

titetanium said:
That's fine, I'm not going bother with rooting, I'm rolling back to stock 4.3. This whole kit kat update left a realthy sour taste in my mouth and rooting the tablet just to put in a dirty hack to fix it is ugly, IMHO. The fix isn't even guaranteed to solve it completely as others have expressed other issues. At least with 4.3, I know I didn't have much problems with it, and I need my sdcard for hosting files (25GB worth) for an app that putting them in the cloud isn't workable when I can't access them on the road or at places sans wifi.
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Agreed. While I think Nvidia have done a great job at pushing out updates in a timely manner, the quality of those updates has been poor. Each time they have added some useful features, they have also either introduced new bugs or failed to fix existing bugs. On the one hand, I want the latest update due to the game mapper functionally and the fact that they fixed the bug regarding unmounting external hard drives (which they introduced in 4.3), but i don't want to have to employ a workaround to use my microSD card or an external hard drive freely. It's such a shame as this device has so much potential. I don't think I'll be buying the next Nvidia device.
To roll back to 4.3 involved installing unsigned drivers on my PC (a real no no) and unlocking the boot loader (which means my warranty is now void). What a stupid end user experience Nvidia and Google have created between them. At a time when I want to move away from rooting my device and flashing custom recoveries and ROMs they are actually making doing so more and more of a necessity. If I'm going to have to keep tinkering with my devices to get them to function in the way I want, then I would like a better OS that does less dodgy stuff with my data and is truly open....

[Q] Help! Note 3 kitkat update sd card support question.

Hey I have a question thought maybe you might be able to help. I just updated my samsung galaxy note 3 and its with wind mobile and it's sm-n900w8 modle. Anyways I keep hearing about this sd card thing being removed on the web today and how everybody is pissed about it. I tried reading about it but don't understand. Is there anyway it could be super simplified for me? Any help would be great thanks.

MiltonOntario said:
Hey I have a question thought maybe you might be able to help. I just updated my samsung galaxy note 3 and its with wind mobile and it's sm-n900w8 modle. Anyways I keep hearing about this sd card thing being removed on the web today and how everybody is pissed about it. I tried reading about it but don't understand. Is there anyway it could be super simplified for me? Any help would be great thanks.
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A simplified answer:
Google changed the permissions of third party apps regarding external storage due to security concerns.
In KitKat third part apps aren't able to read/write to sdcard unless the apps are updated and they generate a folder separately for that app. Even then they only have access to that folder and no other. System apps will still be able to read and write so stuff like My Files from Samsung still has full control.
This is what it means in a nutshell.

akselic said:
A simplified answer:
Google changed the permissions of third party apps regarding external storage due to security concerns.
In KitKat third part apps aren't able to read/write to sdcard unless the apps are updated and they generate a folder separately for that app. Even then they only have access to that folder and no other. System apps will still be able to read and write so stuff like My Files from Samsung still has full control.
This is what it means in a nutshell.
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So things like downloading a ringtone from the web browser or using my otg cable or using a torrent client will not be affected? I also noticed that in application manager if I click on some of the apps it shows the move to sd card as greyed out and others it shows it as highlighted is this normal? And also I noticed that when I go into my sd card the folders for a lot of my apps are there but the size of my card for storage amount has not dropped is this normal and does it really affect the average joe who's not big into tinkering with Android os?

MiltonOntario said:
So things like downloading a ringtone from the web browser or using my otg cable or using a torrent client will not be affected?
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The torrent client and browser will need to be updated if they aren't already or you can use the stock (system app) browser. But no, basically those things will not be affected and should work just fine.

akselic said:
The torrent client and browser will need to be updated if they aren't already or you can use the stock (system app) browser. But no, basically those things will not be affected and should work just fine.
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Ok dudes I will just go about using it like as per usual. Thanks for the help guys!

If you have rooted your note 3 then it is possible to modify a system file to give all non system apps that for example you have downloaded from play store to behave as they would before kit kat changed write permission.
See this post for details of how to edit the file to allow apps to be able to write to your sd card.
Fairly easy to do, just have to use any file editor to add a single line in a system file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51036231&postcount=482
Alternatively someone has posted that they have written an app to do this on play store.
I can't find link to this at the moment.
Will edit this post If I find the post.
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Losing applications old and new

Plz need some help. Done a nandroid restore and tried a tb restore but still getting the same problem. Applicstions are disapearing and where the app icon was its still thier but in grey. When i click on it, it opens the play store to reinstall the app. Even when i check using root browser or my files it shows the app is still installed. Even if i redownload these apps after a reboot or exiting out of a app it happens again??? The icon for the app is grey and if i click it opens play store to reinstall. Now my biggest problem its starting to do it to newly installed apps. I purchase alot of apps and never has it asked me to repay but i just dont know whats going on. Its a pain everytome i want to use a certain app i must reinstall it. Can anybody plz shed some light on yhis problem or is anybody experianceing the same problem. Plzzzzzz help???????
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If you had sd card and it was going bad, then I could imagine apps that install partially to sd card get corrupted and stop working. There should be
LOST DIR folder, if anything is there, those are lost and later recovered file fragments. You would need at least reformat the card, possibly replace it. If that's not the case then I have no idea.

Yes my external sd is corrupt. Cant add or delete anything from it. I contacted sandisk and they will replace it in a weeks time. So that must be the problem then?
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Mediaserver battery drain

Hey guys i am noticing media server battery drain on my phone for the last 2 days
It temporarily goes away on restarting but comes back again
I am on stock rom with googy max kernel
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ViperCDX said:
Hey guys i am noticing media server battery drain on my phone for the last 2 days
It temporarily goes away on restarting but comes back again
I am on stock rom with googy max kernel
Please see the attached screenshots
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Mine too...even after a fresh install without any media files on the phone..I get this issue
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Same for me...
Inviato dal mio SM-N920C utilizzando Tapatalk

If you guys can. Disable the Samsung file manager.

App name?
Enviado do meu SM-N920C através de Tapatalk

LiL_Assassin said:
If you guys can. Disable the Samsung file manager.
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Am gonna try it and report....
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macuser said:
App name?
Enviado do meu SM-N920C através de Tapatalk
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My Files..You can only disable from Titanium
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LiL_Assassin said:
If you guys can. Disable the Samsung file manager.
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Seriously??
So i will use file commander and disable my files
And report after a few days

This thing is absolutely killing me know
Disabling file manager didnt work
No one knows what it is or how to solve it?????
In my previous phone (xperia z1) it was due to repeated scanning of the external sd card for music due to faulty sd card
I changed the sd card and never faced the problem again
But that won'twon't work here.

ViperCDX said:
This thing is absolutely killing me know
Disabling file manager didnt work
No one knows what it is or how to solve it?????
In my previous phone (xperia z1) it was due to repeated scanning of the external sd card for music due to faulty sd card
I changed the sd card and never faced the problem again
But that won'twon't work here.
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That's sucks. Back up any media/photos/music onto your pc and remove it off your phone and see if it's still there.

LiL_Assassin said:
That's sucks. Back up any media/photos/music onto your pc and remove it off your phone and see if it's still there.
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Good idea
I will do it tonight and report tomorrow

So, helps?
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ViperCDX said:
This thing is absolutely killing me know
Disabling file manager didnt work
No one knows what it is or how to solve it?????
In my previous phone (xperia z1) it was due to repeated scanning of the external sd card for music due to faulty sd card
I changed the sd card and never faced the problem again
But that won'twon't work here.
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If you have root access..
In terminal type...
adb shell
su
pm disable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
You can re-enable it later with:
pm enable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
The reason it's doing this is because it's scanning and indexing everything you have on your phone.. Like the other poster said remove everything to your pc and reboot but into recovery first and clear your cache and see if this helps.

daniel_costa_rj said:
So, helps?
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I am out of station
Could not try it yet

MrMike2182 said:
If you have root access..
In terminal type...
adb shell
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pm disable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
You can re-enable it later with:
pm enable com.android.providers.media/com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerReceiver
The reason it's doing this is because it's scanning and indexing everything you have on your phone.. Like the other poster said remove everything to your pc and reboot but into recovery first and clear your cache and see if this helps.
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So in terminal i am disabling mediaserver?
Then if i add new photos or music it will not be shown in gallery or music player?

ViperCDX said:
So in terminal i am disabling mediaserver?
Then if i add new photos or music it will not be shown in gallery or music player?
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Yes they will be shown it doesn't mess with the pictures or videos. And yes in terminal you do it. I'd make a backup of your system before doing it just to be safe. Also the name may not exactly be the same but you can easily find it by checking all running processes in terminal also.

I just went through this on my S6 running marshmallow. I fixed it by disabling the chrome browser. Might be worth a try. Not sure why it worked.
Erik

I had same thing belive it or not it was chrome disabled it no problems since

FWIW, I just did a Clear Data in app info for Chrome and the media server battery drain is gone. I have been using chrome all day now. Good luck.
Erik