Is anybody else having the problem? After I transfered all apps to sd csrd they disappear. Happened twice already..
I am on ktoonsez ketnel with stock mf9. 64gb SanDisk micro sd.
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P1_e85 said:
Is anybody else having the problem? After I transfered all apps to sd csrd they disappear. Happened twice already..
I am on ktoonsez ketnel with stock mf9. 64gb SanDisk micro sd.
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Yep, happens to me also.
You're not really losing the app, just the icon for the link.
Remove the link and replace with the link from the application list.
It's a PITA, I know, but it works.
Still no go. That is my app drawer, I just make folders to organize.
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Nobody has any ideas?
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Try clearing your ram.
When Google talk changed to hangouts my s3 kept the shading for talk but clearing ram fixed it
In case you don't know how
Hold home button> bottom left button> press the ram tab> click clear memory
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Try clearing your ram.
When Google talk changed to hangouts my s3 kept the shading for talk but clearing ram fixed it
In case you don't know how
Hold home button> bottom left button> press the ram tab> click clear memory
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I do this constantly just to free memory. . Thanks for the tip. But that didnt do it. Did I mention the apps do not even work now. Gives error saying not installed
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When this happens, check to see if your SD card is mounted ok or not. (launch your explorer app - ES explorer or MyFiles or whatever app you use to browse files) - and navigate to your SD card to see if you can access the files on it.
(or go to settings/storage/scroll-to-bottom and see if card is mounted)
I have a similar issue happen at start up. The icons are greyed out, but I can still access the application. What gets me is not every app moved to the SD card gets the greyed out icon. It doesn't seem to affect the performance, other than visually for me. The icons have been coming back at varying times, usually if I install a new app, or do some other moving around of things. Unmounting and mounting the card does not seem to have any affect on the icons.
I am new to android, but I figure as long as I can still use the app, it really doesn't bother me too much if the icon doesn't look flashy. I pretty much know where the shortcuts to them are, anyway.
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ObrienDave said:
Yep, happens to me also.
You're not really losing the app, just the icon for the link.
Remove the link and replace with the link from the application list.
It's a PITA, I know, but it works.
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I thought I tried this already, but after two reboots, the icons still seem to be showing the right way again. Cool beans.
No problems with sd card. Mounted fine and can access items with es file explorer. Would it have to do anything with my rom or kernel? Remember I have 64 gb SanDisk. Root stock mf9 with ktoonsez kernel.
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No problems with sd card. Mounted fine and can access items with es file explorer. Would it have to do anything with my rom or kernel? Remember I have 64 gb SanDisk. Root stock mf9 with ktoonsez kernel.
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So I was having the same problem and looking for an answer as well.... Don't know if you tried this but this is what I ended up doing. I'll assume you are on a third party ROM as well as kernel as I was. Well I simply went back to the stock ROM and kernel to fix the problem. Now on reboots there is on occasion my app icons will be grayed out but once the system scans/recognizes the sd-card they usually appear.
At this point I'm not sure if it is the ROM or the kernel, but I have a feeling it is the ROM because I seem to remember running the stock kernel and third party ROM when this started to happen and tried fixing it with a third party kernel.
Hope this helps.
BTW I'm also using a 64GB SanDisk sd
OP is on stock rom. I have the same setup and problem, stock rooted MF9 with ktoonsez and only program that this is happening is Homerun Battle 2. I had to reinstall and quickly move it to internal storage and it stayed after that.
aa1rose said:
OP is on stock rom. I have the same setup and problem, stock rooted MF9 with ktoonsez and only program that this is happening is Homerun Battle 2. I had to reinstall and quickly move it to internal storage and it stayed after that.
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Don't think OP mentioned which ROM, but it is definitely the kernel. Flashed 3rd party ROM with stock kernel and no problems after reboot. Flashed a ROM that included a version of the KT kernel and lost the apps. Went back to stock kernel, reinstalled the apps and redid the move and no more lost apps.
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Don't think OP mentioned which ROM, but it is definitely the kernel. Flashed 3rd party ROM with stock kernel and no problems after reboot. Flashed a ROM that included a version of the KT kernel and lost the apps. Went back to stock kernel, reinstalled the apps and redid the move and no more lost apps.
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"I am on ktoonsez ketnel with stock mf9" as stated by OP
I do agree with you. It looks to be kernel related, not rom related.
aa1rose said:
"I am on ktoonsez ketnel with stock mf9" as stated by OP
I do agree with you. It looks to be kernel related, not rom related.
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I have the exact same problem on MJ7. Apps moved to SD card are grayed out (not all of the moved apps), but they still work.
looking for a fix.
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So I'm confused; what is the correct order to start upgrading your Huawei u8800? Which is the thing to start with? From what i gathered, the first thing is to do a backup and the best way to do it is with Clockworkmod, but when i check CWM page here on XDA, it says root requiered. Ultimate Guide to Huawei U8800 says that i can root the phone with Super Boot, so should i just go with that and worry about backup later? What if i screw my phone up and don't have a backup? Then is the part of selecting a proper ROM, and i think that i'm interested in the most stable one, so wich one i should go with (oh, and a circular battery with a presentage would be nice) custom or just a firmware update? And the Re-Partition mentioned in MoDaCos Ultimate Guide to Huawei U8800, does it also require a root?
Sorry for the n00b questions, but well, i am one.
I would recommend upgrading to stock ROMs first, but in order to install a custom ROM, you need both root and recovery mod. These 2 functions are being are done from the "shadow" memory, using 2 img files (boot.img and recovery.img).
To access that memory and replace the 2 files follow these steps:
1) Download the boot file and rename it to boot.img ( should be "boot.u8800-modaco-superboot-r1") from here:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...nd-then-some-for-the-huawei-u8800-ideos-x5/om here the zip file (rename if not called that recovery.img).
2) Download and extract the recovery file (extract.zip) from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14870348
3) Turn off your phone and unplug the usb cable. Make sure you have enough battery (at least 50%).
2) Turn on your phone, holding VOL+, VOL- and POWER (should come up with pink screen, to indicate access to shadow memory)
3) Connect the usb cable and the driver should install (don't worry if it says drivers not found, the partition called "image" should still be accessible)
4) Browse your phone to find the folder with boot.img and recovery.img. Copy these 2 files somewhere on your computer, to create a backup of the original files. Now, replace both files with the ones you've downloaded.
5) Remove the battery from the phone to exit "shadow" memory.
To access the recovery mod, press VOL+ and Power, while the phone is off.
I hope this helps...
It does help, thanks! The rooting AND the recovery installation are done simultaneously. But i still have few conserns. Does this all work backwards? I mean in the case of hardware breakage - if i am giving the phone back to maintenance - can i just re-replace the original boot.img and recovery.img and thus "unroot" the phone? Previously recovering backupped data? Is the phone then as it were before whole prosidure?
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It does help, thanks! The rooting AND the recovery installation are done simultaneously. But i still have few conserns. Does this all work backwards? I mean in the case of hardware breakage - if i am giving the phone back to maintenance - can i just re-replace the original boot.img and recovery.img and thus "unroot" the phone? Previously recovering backupped data? Is the phone then as it were before whole prosidure?
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Yes, replacing all things you done with stock will by default revert it to normal.
Right. One more thing, though this is a bit beside the subject. The re-partitioning, when upgraded from 600mb to 1.2G, does this actually add space for running apps or gives only more installation space?
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Right. One more thing, though this is a bit beside the subject. The re-partitioning, when upgraded from 600mb to 1.2G, does this actually add space for running apps or gives only more installation space?
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Yes it gives both actual space for installation. Running apps will always be loaded into ram and swap.
So RAM is its own thing and separate from (ROM?) the increasable space? But what is the actual gain IN increasing it? More apps in the phone? But I've read that the phone gets all cluttered and buggy, if its full of apps. Is this the gain in re-partitioning?
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So RAM is its own thing and separate from (ROM?) the increasable space? But what is the actual gain IN increasing it? More apps in the phone? But I've read that the phone gets all cluttered and buggy, if its full of apps. Is this the gain in re-partitioning?
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Where have you read that?
The thing is huawei included a external storage(build in SD card) which had the size of 2GB, and internal storage at 600MB, with geno's partition flash you just change the partitions, the 600MB becomes external storage, and the 2GB(1.2GB data) becomes internal storage. So we gain rather than lose storage. So I have used it for now quite and not experienced any problem.
Please link me up on where you found out this cluttered and buggy thing with this ok?
I think that I accidentally misled you on this. It was some SGS(maybe) thread that I read sometime ago. The talk was about phone being laggy and probable cause that it was full of apps. So I kinda gathered that if any android phone is stuffed full of applications, it gets slow. But I guess I am wrong?
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I think that I accidentally misled you on this. It was some SGS(maybe) thread that I read sometime ago. The talk was about phone being laggy and probable cause that it was full of apps. So I kinda gathered that if any android phone is stuffed full of applications, it gets slow. But I guess I am wrong?
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Aha, well if the phone gets sluggish is because swap and ram is being used and less free for other processes. You could make it similar to any OS. I have tried once with this phone filled it up had 6mb left wasn't sluggish at.
So if I have still 389mb phone memory left free, re-partitioning isn't really acute procedure for me?
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So if I have still 389mb phone memory left free, re-partitioning isn't really acute procedure for me?
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The partition thing will work independently, only thing it does is formatting the external storage(2GB) and then moves all your data on to the 2GB internal SD and that's it. You can do this if you feel like you need lots of space for apps ok?
Yes, I understand. And since I still have lots of free space left, I think I save this for later. Thanks for explaining this to me. Oh jeah, what custom ROM would you recommend? Preferably one that has all its bugs smoothed out?
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This ROM seems to be stable and very fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059753
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Yes, I understand. And since I still have lots of free space left, I think I save this for later. Thanks for explaining this to me. Oh jeah, what custom ROM would you recommend? Preferably one that has all its bugs smoothed out?
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Uhm, I am really uncertain about this fact. It seems like phones from different regions have different problems with ROMs.
I would say like this, take a tour , visit different roms out and try out them for yourself and see which one suits your needs and such things.
What I use
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...rom-for-the-huawei-u8800-with-online-kitchen/
I am using this because I seem to have problems with other roms out nowdays. Might be only me
Other ones...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147103
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059753
Try out and see for yourself, that's the best thing you can do !
Hope it helps !
Thanks for the help. Wanna Google+ invite?
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Thanks for the help. Wanna Google+ invite?
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Thanks, but no thanks
I am happy with forums and iirc.
The n00b question parade continues.
I applied new boot.img and new recovery.img and updated to B160 ROM (for now). So far so good. But its the Superuser that I can't figure out. I can't seem to make it do anything..
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The n00b question parade continues.
I applied new boot.img and new recovery.img and updated to B160 ROM (for now). So far so good. But its the Superuser that I can't figure out. I can't seem to make it do anything..
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Well, the superuser application is there for applications who require root access to make changes and such thing, so if you were to use SetCPU, noAds or Titanium Backup, they will require access from superuser(root). So don't worry, it works but you need something that demands root access to see anything happen !
And yet more questions. Is there a way to upgrade the touch screen? I mean to up the number of simultaneous touches from two to more?
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The flash storage on my nexus 7 seems to not be rewriting like it should, when i pull it up in Windows i can see and delete things from the MTP interface. But when i use a file manager (OI File Manager) i can see the files once more and get an error when i attempt to delete them. i have done the Backup & Reset option within android after attempting a full data reset in ClockworkMod Recovery. At this point i am scratching my head. i am downloading another rom and will flash and post what i get from that.
Anyone else have this strange issue?
I've noticed this as well, anything I delete with ES File Explorer still shows up when it's plugged into my macbook but isn't actually accessible, I'm still on the stock ROM.
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I've noticed this as well, anything I delete with ES File Explorer still shows up when it's plugged into my macbook but isn't actually accessible, I'm still on the stock ROM.
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Have you hoooked up any form of external storage through an adpater? thats the only thing i have done "out of the ordinary" and a complete rom change doesnt fix it
AlanWarrick said:
Have you hoooked up any form of external storage through an adpater? thats the only thing i have done "out of the ordinary" and a complete rom change doesnt fix it
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Nope, not even rooted, not really a big issue since I mostly use airdroid to transfer files but it would be nice to fix it.
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jabsys said:
Nope, not even rooted, not really a big issue since I mostly use airdroid to transfer files but it would be nice to fix it.
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The next thing i am going to do is return to stock, a complete re-flash to see if it empties the storage, I am posting all my theories so that anyone with the same issue could easily follow.
Success!
Using Wugfish Nexus Toolkit, my problem appears to have been solved. whether it is a perminant fix or not has yet to be known.
OK title kinda says it all. I have 4.28 GB left on my 16gb n7 trying to install a couple apps from apk files. I'm getting a warning that it can't install due to not enough memory and the n7 requests that I remove apps. The files don't go over 40mb in total so I'm confused as hell as to why its telling me I'm short non file space.
I tried fixing permissions clearing cache and dalvik but no luck. Anyone have a clue as to why it thinks this.
Running stock 4.2 unlocked rooted with trinity kernel.
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It might be b/c when the apps you're going to install will be updated in the future and the N7 has a built in limit in other words the apps will go beyond the limit good luck and GOD BLESS YOU Oh yeah you might have to bite the bullet and delete some other apps
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OK title kinda says it all. I have 4.28 GB left on my 16gb n7 trying to install a couple apps from apk files. I'm getting a warning that it can't install due to not enough memory and the n7 requests that I remove apps. The files don't go over 40mb in total so I'm confused as hell as to why its telling me I'm short non file space.
I tried fixing permissions clearing cache and dalvik but no luck. Anyone have a clue as to why it thinks this.
Running stock 4.2 unlocked rooted with trinity kernel.
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You probably have a left over .odex file for an app left in /system/app
Titanium backup has an option to look for orphaned dalvik files as well.
I had the same issue. I downloaded "Lucky Patcher" (google it) and went to Menue>Troubleshooting>Remove fixes and backups
That fixed the problem for me.
I have the same issue. I'm trying different approaches. About the post above... It won't let me install lucky patcher either. I'll try doing it in adb next.
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I have the same issue. I'm trying different approaches. About the post above... It won't let me install lucky patcher either. I'll try doing it in adb next.
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I had the same problem and tried several things to fix.. The only solution to the problem was to indeed use Lucky Patcher... Use it to clear and then reboot and back to happy application installation...
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It's because you have orphaned Odex files in system/app or data/app
Naughty naughty. Usually created by a cracked app.
Lucky Patcher makes the Problem go.
The Trick with using lucky patcher worked! Thanks man! I had the same Problem.
Hi, I just wondered if anyone else is having issues after the Kit Kat update? Maybe we could start a list here.... I'm on the stock recovery and not rooted (and have been since day one). If you add issues, please could you tell everybody whether or not you're rooted etc.
1.Can't write files so MicroSD card using file manager apps (but I can do it if I connect the Note to a PC in MTP mode, then drag and drop files from internal to external storage
2. MC3 doesn't work - this one may bring about the end of civilisation as we know. No really, it might.
3. Stuttering when playing movies over HDMI to a TV (this was present in 4.3 too, but not 4.2.2)
4. Options to use auto-correct, double tap of the space bar etc when a hardware keyboard is connected do not work (this extra menu only appears when your keyboard is connected).
5. Various slow downs and pauses.
6. Battery life, as mentioned by foxxorrrorororors (approximate spelling)
7. GPS - still pretty bad for me, even with GPS Test....
Anybody else got the same, or perhaps other issues?
*UPDATE* I just tried a full factory reset and the microSD card write issue remains. You also can't write files to an external USB drive either. Clearly Nvidia doesn't have a very thorough procedure for testing these updates before pushing them to our devices. Muppets.
**UPDATE** If you are rooted, the tutorial in this thread fixes the write to SD card problem as far as I can tell http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
1. jup, vlc cant access sdcard either - seems they changed something here.
2. na
3. na
4. na, using swiftkey
5. not yet
6. maybe, time will show
7. jup
wonders who this foxxoorrroxororors person you speak of is.
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wonders who this foxxoorrroxororors person you speak of is.
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Sorry dude, I couldn't remember how to spell your username - too many letters for me
cars10k, thanks for responding - do you mean MC3 does work for your, or that you haven't tried it? Sorry if I'm being a bit dumb
Writing to Sd card was killed by Samsung in their KitKat update - apparently the permissions are set wrong in platform.xml. I don't know if this is the case for us. I can't even use Helium Backup to write to the MicroSd card. Darn.
yeah my sd cards isnt working either, moving or with es file man. that sucks i use it daily.....
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did not try MC3.
surprisingly, mx player works for me, even with files on the sdcard.
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did not try MC3.
surprisingly, mx player works for me, even with files on the sdcard.
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Thanks
Reading files from the MicroSD card works fine, writing does not unfortunately
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yeah my sd cards isnt working either, moving or with es file man. that sucks i use it daily.....
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Yeah, I use it daily too. Really frustrating. I'm tempted to cut my nose off to spite my face and just take the tablet back to Currys. There's no point Nvidia throwing out updates with newer versions of android and extra features if they break basic stuff in the process (USB OTG hard drive unmounting being one example of something that was broken by the 4.3 update).
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yeah my sd cards isnt working either, moving or with es file man. that sucks i use it daily.....
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I think it's actually a KitKat thing: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...at-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/
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5. Various slow downs and pauses.
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Do you mean like the whole tablet becomes unresponsive at times? You can't even get to the home screen or turn the screen off? Then after anything from 30 second to 2 minutes it just comes alive again? I was experiencing that even before the update - with very few apps installed (same as my Sammy 7.7 which never froze). I've reset to factory and haven't had it again... Yet...
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did not try MC3.
surprisingly, mx player works for me, even with files on the sdcard.
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Ditto for me. I keep my vids on the SD card. Watched a couple today. Oh, and I've never rooted this; still stock.
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Ditto for me. I keep my vids on the SD card. Watched a couple today. Oh, and I've never rooted this; still stock.
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Here's a thread about how to solve the problem of not being able to write to the SD card. You need to root first though unfortunately. On the plus side there's absolutely no reason why Nvidia Shouldn't push a fix out very quickly if they are paying attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
After rooting I used ES File Explorer. Before you can do anything, in ES File explorer turn on Root Explorer in the side menu by tapping the button next to that entry, then tap on the Root Explorer text itself to enter the options menu for root access. In the menu that pops up tap "Mount R/W" and press the radio button to mount "/system" as RW, then press ok. After that you can follow the instructions to edit the Platform.xml as laid out in the link above. I used ES File Explorer's in built text editor to do this. After you've made the changes to platform.xml, you to set the correct permissions for the file, again using ES File Explorer (long press platform.xml, press the menu button in the bottom right hand corner, then tap properties) change the permissions to rw-r-r-. That should be it, in theory you can now write files to external storage.
Ouzo said:
Here's a thread about how to solve the problem of not being able to write to the SD card. You need to root first though unfortunately. On the plus side there's absolutely no reason why Nvidia Shouldn't push a fix out very quickly if they are paying attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
After rooting I used ES File Explorer. Before you can do anything, in ES File explorer turn on Root Explorer in the side menu by tapping the button next to that entry, then tap on the Root Explorer text itself to enter the options menu for root access. In the menu that pops up tap "Mount R/W" and press the radio button to mount "/system" as RW, then press ok. After that you can follow the instructions to edit the Platform.xml as laid out in the link above. I used ES File Explorer's in built text editor to do this. After you've made the changes to platform.xml, you to set the correct permissions for the file, again using ES File Explorer (long press platform.xml, press the menu button in the bottom right hand corner, then tap properties) change the permissions to rw-r-r-. That should be it, in theory you can now write files to external storage.
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Thank you, thank you. I just spent about 3 hours trying to edit the file, but I couldn't figure out how to get the permissions to do so. That did it.
Brew
Ouzo said:
Hi, I just wondered if anyone else is having issues after the Kit Kat update? Maybe we could start a list here.... I'm on the stock recovery and not rooted (and have been since day one). If you add issues, please could you tell everybody whether or not you're rooted etc...
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Clear your dalvik cache and normal cache using the recovery kernel options.
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Clear your dalvik cache and normal cache using the recovery kernel options.
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Haha I just FAC reset before I read this, but everything is nice and spangly after reset, try SD card now
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Haha I just FAC reset before I read this, but everything is nice and spangly after reset, try SD card now
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Google's KitKat is supposed to be restrictive on allowing apps to be installed to sdcard1, but you maybe able to trick installs using symbolic linked folders.
Damn this game mapper is awesome arcane legends rocks with it
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Wiping dalvik cache isn't an option in the stock recovery on Kit Kat. I just looked a few mins ago. Wiping cache is there and I used it, but it still isn't solving the slow booting/loading time.
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Wiping dalvik cache isn't an option in the stock recovery on Kit Kat. I just looked a few mins ago. Wiping cache is there and I used it, but it still isn't solving the slow booting/loading time.
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Ok You'll need root mode and either use a custom recovery partition options.
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Ok You'll need root mode and either use a custom recovery partition options.
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That's fine, I'm not going bother with rooting, I'm rolling back to stock 4.3. This whole kit kat update left a really sour taste in my mouth and rooting the tablet just to put in a dirty hack to fix it is ugly, IMHO. The fix isn't even guaranteed to solve it completely as others have expressed other issues. At least with 4.3, I know I didn't have much problems with it, and I need my sdcard for hosting files (25GB worth) for an app that putting them in the cloud isn't workable when I can't access them on the road or at places sans wifi.
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That's fine, I'm not going bother with rooting, I'm rolling back to stock 4.3. This whole kit kat update left a realthy sour taste in my mouth and rooting the tablet just to put in a dirty hack to fix it is ugly, IMHO. The fix isn't even guaranteed to solve it completely as others have expressed other issues. At least with 4.3, I know I didn't have much problems with it, and I need my sdcard for hosting files (25GB worth) for an app that putting them in the cloud isn't workable when I can't access them on the road or at places sans wifi.
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Agreed. While I think Nvidia have done a great job at pushing out updates in a timely manner, the quality of those updates has been poor. Each time they have added some useful features, they have also either introduced new bugs or failed to fix existing bugs. On the one hand, I want the latest update due to the game mapper functionally and the fact that they fixed the bug regarding unmounting external hard drives (which they introduced in 4.3), but i don't want to have to employ a workaround to use my microSD card or an external hard drive freely. It's such a shame as this device has so much potential. I don't think I'll be buying the next Nvidia device.
To roll back to 4.3 involved installing unsigned drivers on my PC (a real no no) and unlocking the boot loader (which means my warranty is now void). What a stupid end user experience Nvidia and Google have created between them. At a time when I want to move away from rooting my device and flashing custom recoveries and ROMs they are actually making doing so more and more of a necessity. If I'm going to have to keep tinkering with my devices to get them to function in the way I want, then I would like a better OS that does less dodgy stuff with my data and is truly open....
I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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kevp75 said:
I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
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As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
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yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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kevp75 said:
yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
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Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
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lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
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I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
kevp75 said:
Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
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The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
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The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
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Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
kevp75 said:
Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
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So, I ended going back to stock. re-rooted, the whole nine. Installed the Launcher... guess what... missing shortcuts, so it's definately not AT doing it
Hey man, thanks a ton for the help here... for some reason my XDA app isn't working so great, so I can't thank you enough
Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
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Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Yeah, tried the restore of all thos.
on NB1... sort of I did the Deadly Venom 3.0 SafeStrap =) Anyways, I'm backup and running after a reflash... no biggee, didn';t take all that long to do LOL