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This new rumoured device from HTC looks exciting:
8 megapixel camera, 4.3-inch WVGA capacitive display and 1GHz Snapdragon to mention a few. Just hope the build quality will be improved as I have so much issues with the current HD.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/08/12/htcs-whitestone-for-verizon-high-power-leo-rendered-again/
nice looking phone but everything htc make now works around the hd, im happy with mine
most important is it must support multl touch if not its useless again :X
I really like the version on the left!
its multitouch
dB Zac said:
I really like the version on the left!
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The left one is the WVGA 4.3" model code name "Leo". The one on the right is called "Mega" with only QVGA resolution.
Leo is definitely more attractive, with bigger screen but smaller body. That's how all touch screen phones should be!
does anyone have any idea when will it be out? :0
i just bought my hd not even 3 wk >_< and i heard this new. it really break my heart :X
Here we have some more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4330209#post4330209
Minor improvements and, finally, flash light (2x led flash), at least for Leo.
I hoped the screen will stay the same size just the body will get smaller
It's to big for me...
I think this is the Firestone code named "Leo" the phone in above link is the Whitestone, could be wrong though.
I'm very interested in HTC Leo. I think its Camera is only 5 Mega Pixels, but it would be great if it is 8 Mega Pixels.
a little diffrence from our blackstone .............
i dont think its worth to switch fr the new phone and pay a big sum of money for the slight improvments
btw what is so good about multi touch? can someone advise
kengkaj.s said:
I'm very interested in HTC Leo. I think its Camera is only 5 Mega Pixels, but it would be great if it is 8 Mega Pixels.
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Why? Megapixels have nothing to do with quality. It's purely a marketing difference with these size of sensors and lenses - prolly 8 is past the point where it actually worsens the image quality.
homer285 said:
I think this is the Firestone code named "Leo" the phone in above link is the Whitestone, could be wrong though.
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Mate,
Take a look here http://ai.rs/2009/08/htc-leo-picures-surface/ ... it seems your source is a fake one.
Regards.
Ikkari said:
I hoped the screen will stay the same size just the body will get smaller
It's to big for me...
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Seconded.
A 4.3 inch screen is nice... but a chalkboard brush like that bulging out of my pocket isn't going to be very professional at board meetings unfortunately...
The Blackstone is already somewhat big with a case but I'm managing...
scscc3 said:
Seconded.
A 4.3 inch screen is nice... but a chalkboard brush like that bulging out of my pocket isn't going to be very professional at board meetings unfortunately...
The Blackstone is already somewhat big with a case but I'm managing...
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Definitely a little wider and taller, but also thinner. I find the thinness makes it easier to carry in a jacket or pocket than a smaller, but thicker phone.
HTC Leo
Good day,
Does anyone have any info about the Leo have the proper radio frequencies to work on AT&T USA wireless network?
I am an X7501 user who needs a BIG LCD and from what I hear the Athena 2 may be dead in its tracks. Hence the Leo may be right for me IF it will work on AT&T's wireless network.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Claude H.
claude4 said:
Good day,
Does anyone have any info about the Leo have the proper radio frequencies to work on AT&T USA wireless network?
I am an X7501 user who needs a BIG LCD and from what I hear the Athena 2 may be dead in its tracks. Hence the Leo may be right for me IF it will work on AT&T's wireless network.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Claude H.
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The only specs seem to be the one on the page listed and that indicates European 3G bands. I'm hoping their will either be an ATT version or a Telstra Australian 3G version. With ATT moving all 3G to 850Mhz the Telstra would essentially meet all our 3G coverage needs for ATT.
Check this out. One more piece of data that seems to support those new renders are accurate.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/...-seemingly-confirmed-by-leaked-rom/#continued
Hey everyone (this is my first post although I've been following the forum for a couple of weeks now!)
Like most everyone I've been eagerly waiting for the Desire HD and getting impatient for the delay. I just watched a video comparing Desire HD and EVO 4g on engadget, in which the guy says the Desire HD 3G won't work in the US? I'm an absolute newbie and have never had an Android phone...can anyone confirm this? Thanks!
Here is the said video:
engadget.com/2010/10/30/htc-desire-hd-vs-evo-4g-fight/
EDIT: I just found another similar thread that answered my question...wanted to delete my post but don't know how...well at least there's that engadget video ...
nubicurio said:
Hey everyone (this is my first post although I've been following the forum for a couple of weeks now!)
Like most everyone I've been eagerly waiting for the Desire HD and getting impatient for the delay. I just watched a video comparing Desire HD and EVO 4g on engadget, in which the guy says the Desire HD 3G won't work in the US? I'm an absolute newbie and have never had an Android phone...can anyone confirm this? Thanks!
Here is the said video:
engadget.com/2010/10/30/htc-desire-hd-vs-evo-4g-fight/
EDIT: I just found another similar thread that answered my question...wanted to delete my post but don't know how...well at least there's that engadget video ...
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to be honest. i think only a retard would sell his Evo 4G to DHD. as i personally think the EVO 4G is superior to DHD in many ways its not even funny.
its kinda like the europen/asia/middle eastern people got a stupid low version of the EVO 4G.
1- no 4G
2- No second camera
3- no kick stand
4- no mini hdmi port
are they serious ?
and on top of all that, there are some hardware problems with the DHD it self that needs to be fixed " sensor, touch panel etc".
i think the DHD is a total fail. with all respect to everyone who bought it.
and i really hope it bombs hard to htc think twice before f****ng up their customers outside the US.
too bad the evo is CDMA only. i would have paid 700$ for it :/
4g hasn't even been released in many places outside of america, it's capable of handling hspa+ speeds..
I don't know anyone who actually uses the secondary camera. I've had it on my n95 and touch pro 2 and never missed it going onto my nexus one.
No hdmi port because we have dlna.
How is the desire hd a fail? It's been noted worldwide that it is one of the best, if not the best android phone out at the moment.
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4g hasn't even been released in many places outside of america, it's capable of handling hspa+ speeds..
I don't know anyone who actually uses the secondary camera. I've had it on my n95 and touch pro 2 and never missed it going onto my nexus one.
No hdmi port because we have dlna.
How is the desire hd a fail? It's been noted worldwide that it is one of the best, if not the best android phone out at the moment.
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1- just because its the best in europe doesnt mean its the best world wide.
the evo 4 G destroys it and its an older phone. the DHD is stipped down version in terms of hardware " dont give me newer cpu crap that no one actually use. the android is running super fast on a hd2 . let alone evo "
2- just because you and others dont use the front facing camera doesnt mean its not important. most of my calls are video calls for your info. its more fun and i actually see the girl/guy i am talkin to before we decide to go out and have fun etc
3- dlna is nice. but i am sorry. not all HDtvs have dlna. including my 2 years old Sony Bravia . full hd. hdmi port. no dlna " as far as i know. nothing in the options when i checked "
should i go now and buy a new HDtv ? please. and many others are like this too.
sure the HDMI output is NOT a standard on Mobiles. but the EVO has it. why on earth they took it off from DHD. they are friggin charging the same price for evo as dhd. why should i be ok with the dumped version ?
i am sorry you are ok with the dhd. i hope u have fun with it. but there is no way in hell i am going to let htc get my money on this.
they should have a released a superior phone than Evo considering the evo is old now. but no. we get a worst version for the same price. and on top of that, it has some hardware problems.
oh yeah no **** off
4- the Evo is CDMA only. so its not released any where outside the US. and its sprint exclusive too. so even if i import it. it wont work
How about a newer gpu? I couldn't run asphalt on my nexus one smoothly (it ran the same chipset as the evo) but it runs just fine on my desire hd. I suppose the bump up in inbuilt memory as well as the increase in ram means it is still stripped down hardware wise? It's a 50% increase in both cases.
Do you really walk down the street while your video calling? People who video call in public are ignorant lol don't you use facebook to see who you are going to date?
DLNA is standard for most tv's today, if you don't have a compatible t.v. for dlna then use a ps3, xbox 360 or a computer to stream it. If you're going to watch something off of a t.v. you're more likely to stream over dlna than carry a cord around with you. Who watches stuff off of their phones anyway, get apple or google tv if your serious about your media
We have an updated chipset, what more could you want?
Sure people talk about the gpu and cpu improvements but it also brings support for more video codecs (we can play divx natively whereas the old snapdragon can't), uses less power and has the 8th generation built in gps engine (its a lot quicker to lock on). Not to mention speeds of up to 14.4mbps HSPA+. "4g" that you are referring to barely reaches 3mbps for most people in america. All of these features are things people use on a daily basis.
You sir are crazy to prefer the evo over the dhd
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How about a newer gpu? I couldn't run asphalt on my nexus one smoothly (it ran the same chipset as the evo) but it runs just fine on my desire hd. I suppose the bump up in inbuilt memory as well as the increase in ram means it is still stripped down hardware wise? It's a 50% increase in both cases.
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you couldnt run asphalt 5 on nexus ? what on earth you were doing to ur phone? i was running it fine on a friggin HD2 man :/
also. since when CPU run asphalt 5. i hope you are talking about the GPU.
all this crap about new CPU/ GPU doesnt really mean anything. the galaxy has a monster of gpu. and what games take advantage of that? zero .nothing really is new in this tech crap. more of a tweek to the CPU. the software isnt even supporting it. i have smooth experience in my hd2 after tweeks. and so in my galaxy s. " i had hd2 "
my point is users like you and i are not noobs. we come here and tweek devices so we dont go like morons and buy anything new a company spit on our face under new cover and call it a day. dont be that guy
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Do you really walk down the street while your video calling? People who video call in public are ignorant lol don't you use facebook to see who you are going to date?
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yeah most of my calls are really using the front facing camera. specially when i am inside home " my home or friends home" nothing has to do with dating. and no wtf i dont use facebook to date.
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DLNA is standard for most tv's today, if you don't have a compatible t.v. for dlna then use a ps3, xbox 360 or a computer to stream it. If you're going to watch something off of a t.v. you're more likely to stream over dlna than carry a cord around with you. Who watches stuff off of their phones anyway, get apple or google tv if your serious about your media
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sure i can use my DLNA on ps3 or my 360. but the idea of mini hdmi output was if u want to watch at your friends house. why would i plug my mobile to tv if i am at home already and can plug my external hard disk or laptop ?
also, why we are arguing about this? EVO has hdmi output. DHD doesnt. EVO win. period. whatever u will ever use it or not. its there for you if you ever did.
same thing for front cam. 1 day you might be kinky and ur at your work. u call ur gf at home and tell her to show u her ass so u can rub 1 in the bathroom office. the cam is there she can use it lol
teihoata said:
We have an updated chipset, what more could you want?
Sure people talk about the gpu and cpu improvements but it also brings support for more video codecs (we can play divx natively whereas the old snapdragon can't), uses less power and has the 8th generation built in gps engine (its a lot quicker to lock on). Not to mention speeds of up to 14.4mbps HSPA+. "4g" that you are referring to barely reaches 3mbps for most people in america. All of these features are things people use on a daily basis.
You sir are crazy to prefer the evo over the dhd
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are you trying to bring video codec to this now ? where is my old dusty htc magic. let me download vplayer from the market. it will play everything. put a rock in its face and it will play it.
dont bring something not related to the cpu please.
See when people try to use the kickstand as a valid point for how the EVO is a better phone, you just realise that they are clutching at straws.
Front facing cameras have been available on phone in Europe for near enough 6-7 years, times I or anyone else I know have used one = Zero
The "4G" argument, fair does the US has WiMAX, but it is not fully available all over the US.
The kickstand, come on. Never have I ever thought to myself, know what, I wish my phone had a kickstand so I could watch stuff a little easier.
The DHD has an upgraded CPU and GPU, that right now might not have many more advantages over the EVO, but in the future it will do. When the OS becomes more demanding, the older first generation of Snapdragon devices will become less supported officially for updates etc. That coupled with 256mb more RAM backs that up.
The HDMI port is a bit of a bummer, but for me it is hardly a deal breaker. It would be nice to have, but I can just stream to my PS3 or my TV wirelessly, seems like a fair trade off. Why go digging around the back of my tv which is a cable jungle when I can just do it through wireless?
Anyone who says that the lack of front camera or kickstand is a deal breaker is obviously either a total idiot who just wants more more more regardless of how much they will use it, or is just a spec junkie who wants to brag or look cool online.
The vast majority of phones out there dont have a kickstand or a front facing camera or HDMI out, does that make them bad phones, not at all. It is only recently that people have became fixated by such things, to the point where they are fooling themselves into believing that they matter.
Just my thoughts. To me the DHD is the next step up. I would say it's personal choice, but really the tech is much better with the DHD. I'm in the states, and am much happier with the DHD (even on 2G only. I'm always by wi-fi, so it doesn't matter) than I would be with the Evo. All the things the DHD can do blows the Evo out of the water. Maybe it is just me, but like one poster pointed out, some of the things the DHD can do can't be matched by the Evo. Plus Evo is Sprint only, and I'm on T-Mobile, and plan to stay here. There is no other 4.3 Android for T-Mobile (not that I would care since the DHD rules the world).
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
1- just because its the best in europe doesnt mean its the best world wide.
the evo 4 G destroys it and its an older phone. the DHD is stipped down version in terms of hardware " dont give me newer cpu crap that no one actually use. the android is running super fast on a hd2 . let alone evo "
2- just because you and others dont use the front facing camera doesnt mean its not important. most of my calls are video calls for your info. its more fun and i actually see the girl/guy i am talkin to before we decide to go out and have fun etc
3- dlna is nice. but i am sorry. not all HDtvs have dlna. including my 2 years old Sony Bravia . full hd. hdmi port. no dlna " as far as i know. nothing in the options when i checked "
should i go now and buy a new HDtv ? please. and many others are like this too.
sure the HDMI output is NOT a standard on Mobiles. but the EVO has it. why on earth they took it off from DHD. they are friggin charging the same price for evo as dhd. why should i be ok with the dumped version ?
i am sorry you are ok with the dhd. i hope u have fun with it. but there is no way in hell i am going to let htc get my money on this.
they should have a released a superior phone than Evo considering the evo is old now. but no. we get a worst version for the same price. and on top of that, it has some hardware problems.
oh yeah no **** off
4- the Evo is CDMA only. so its not released any where outside the US. and its sprint exclusive too. so even if i import it. it wont work
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1. I'm sorry but the DHD actually has faster hardware than the EVO, end of discussion.
2. I have NEVER seen anyone use a front facing camera on a phone. Why would HTC include one if 90% don't want/need it? It's like demanding a 6,3mm jack on the phone because a couple poor guys have headphones that use a 6,3mm jack even though 95% of people use 3,5mm.
3. A lot of new TV's do have DLNA even though your cheap Bravia doesn't. Again, seriously. How often do you use a HDMI output? Again, I have never seen anyone use it.
Why are you even comparing DHD to the EVO when they are not even intedended to be sold on the same continents for god sake. Besides Android is way better imo than WM which I believe the EVO has. Oh and no, it doesn't have hardware problems except for the first batch of phones, so no, you can't generalize that "the DHD has hardware problems"..
PS. Learn to write for God's sake.
All i see is f"""king stupid replies about " i dont use it so its not important" crap.
None is even semi smart with decent iq to know that the US got more hardware extras for their buck than the rest of the world. Seriously
Oh and now evo has WM....
I give up. I will bail out of this thread. If i read more of this **** my iq is gona drop
More hardware extras for their buck? So let me get this straight, you would rather have a kickstand than a faster CPU/GPU combo?! You would rather have a front facing camera than an extra 256mb of RAM?! That's pretty sad tbh. The hdmi output requires a cable to be bought. The DLNA doesn't need anything to be bought unless you have an old tv in which case you will be able to buy the HTC media link.
So let's recap, you would rather NOT have an upgraded CPU, upgraded GPU, 50% more RAM, but as long as you have a kickstand and front facing camera that's better. LOL!!
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More hardware extras for their buck? So let me get this straight, you would rather have a kickstand than a faster CPU/GPU combo?! You would rather have a front facing camera than an extra 256mb of RAM?! That's pretty sad tbh. The hdmi output requires a cable to be bought. The DLNA doesn't need anything to be bought unless you have an old tv in which case you will be able to buy the HTC media link.
So let's recap, you would rather NOT have an upgraded CPU, upgraded GPU, 50% more RAM, but as long as you have a kickstand and front facing camera that's better. LOL!!
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agree 100%!
the DHD is simply a better phone than the EVO. End of story. Anyone trying to claim that the kickstand and FFC make the EVO better than the DHD are fooling themselves.
Sorry i just couldnt stop myself from doing this>
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More hardware extras for their buck? So let me get this straight, you would rather have a kickstand than a faster CPU/GPU combo?! You would rather have a front facing camera than an extra 256mb of RAM?! That's pretty sad tbh. The hdmi output requires a cable to be bought. The DLNA doesn't need anything to be bought unless you have an old tv in which case you will be able to buy the HTC media link.
So let's recap, you would rather NOT have an upgraded CPU, upgraded GPU, 50% more RAM, but as long as you have a kickstand and front facing camera that's better. LOL!!
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FTW!
but yeah seriously, if you're from US, by all means go for EVO, you outside get Desire H,enough said.
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
1- just because its the best in europe doesnt mean its the best world wide.
the evo 4 G destroys it and its an older phone. the DHD is stipped down version in terms of hardware " dont give me newer cpu crap that no one actually use. the android is running super fast on a hd2 . let alone evo "
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Right...it destroys it? Desire HD in bold; Evo 4g in normal:
Display Type: LCD 16M colors | TFT 65K colors
Internal Memory: 1.5GB, 768MB Ram | 1GB, 512MB Ram
WiFi: B/G/N + DNLA | B/G
CPU: QSD8255 (45nm) | QSD8650
If you knew your stuff you would realise the new Snapdragons are actually smaller meaning less battery usage.
just because you and others dont use the front facing camera doesnt mean its not important. most of my calls are video calls for your info. its more fun and i actually see the girl/guy i am talkin to before we decide to go out and have fun etc
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Do you do phone dating or something? I know what my friends look like and if I'm going to go out and see them I'm not going to video call them. If I want to video call, i'll use Skype for free. PS. Most people haven't got a front facing camera, don't want to, or having got the connection.
3- dlna is nice. but i am sorry. not all HDtvs have dlna. including my 2 years old Sony Bravia . full hd. hdmi port. no dlna " as far as i know. nothing in the options when i checked "
should i go now and buy a new HDtv ? please. and many others are like this too.
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DNLA is moving forward, quickly. Don't have DNLA on your TV? Don't be a tool and buy a new TV. Use your common sense and go buy the cable to connect the Desire HD to the TV. Its about 1/1000th the price of a TV.
sure the HDMI output is NOT a standard on Mobiles. but the EVO has it. why on earth they took it off from DHD. they are friggin charging the same price for evo as dhd. why should i be ok with the dumped version ?
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See above..
they should have a released a superior phone than Evo considering the evo is old now. but no. we get a worst version for the same price. and on top of that, it has some hardware problems.
oh yeah no **** off
4- the Evo is CDMA only. so its not released any where outside the US. and its sprint exclusive too. so even if i import it. it wont work
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I think by now you should realise that the DHD is a much better phone than the Evo. Yeah, the Evo is good - but the DHD pushes the boundaries a little further.
Technology can only go so far at times. You'll be back in a few months moaning how the Desire HD is better than the Dual Core HTC's because the battery life is shocking
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
All i see is f"""king stupid replies about " i dont use it so its not important" crap.
None is even semi smart with decent iq to know that the US got more hardware extras for their buck than the rest of the world. Seriously
Oh and now evo has WM....
I give up. I will bail out of this thread. If i read more of this **** my iq is gona drop
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Based on your writings I doubt your IQ can go any lower than what it already is.
Touch pro 2 is the best phone!!
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Seriously, I would defend my phone if I had that one. NOw my touch pro 2 is broken and I ordered the DHD.
There is a lot of competition out there, not only the EVO 4G.
It's just what you prefer. Design?, the evo 4g probably wins. Inner hardware?, the dhd wins. The 4g has more outer hardware: kickstand, 2nd camera, etc.
So it does have more features. But then again, maybe it doesn't because HTC is comming with a lot of new features by software.
It's just what you like the most. When you only think of the phone design, the 4g wins. But then a lot of phones in the past were designed even better (touch pro 2 (A)) Fact is, the DHD has more power under the hood what makes it last a little longer.
Everyone uses their phone diffrently, so for the people who use the kickstand and front camera, go with the EVO 4g. But most people do not really use it, so the DHD probably is the better choice because it will last longer in the future.
The quality of a phone isn't just decided by strenght or just by design, but also the new technology. That's why a newer phone is almost always better then an old one.
in this case, there isn't really a winner.
I can't post links since this is my first post, but I found a tablet called the Voyo A15 which uses the Samsung Exynos 5250 clocked at 2.0 GHz.
Has anyone seen one of these in real life? I was really excited when I heard the rumor of the Nexus 11, but that seems to have faded away. I really wanted a bigger screen (mostly for comic book reading), but no-one seems to be making 11.6 inch android tablets for sale in the USA. This has the same processor as the N10...has anyone here had any experience with Chinese tablets? It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it? Thanks for any insight you guys might have...
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I can't post links since this is my first post, but I found a tablet called the Voyo A15 which uses the Samsung Exynos 5250 clocked at 2.0 GHz.
Has anyone seen one of these in real life? I was really excited when I heard the rumor of the Nexus 11, but that seems to have faded away. I really wanted a bigger screen (mostly for comic book reading), but no-one seems to be making 11.6 inch android tablets for sale in the USA. This has the same processor as the N10...has anyone here had any experience with Chinese tablets? It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it? Thanks for any insight you guys might have...
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You answered your own question when you said its Chinese
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It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it?
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Is it shipping with a 840x480 resolution close to what most Chinese tablets (i've seen anyway) use? And is it really using a Samsung chip? Not, say, a "Samsug Exnos" chip or some bs? Does it throttle within seconds from 2.0GHz down to its real frequency?
Sounds a bit suspicious imo... But I haven't looked into it lol
espionage724 said:
Is it shipping with a 840x480 resolution close to what most Chinese tablets (i've seen anyway) use? And is it really using a Samsung chip? Not, say, a "Samsug Exnos" chip or some bs? Does it throttle within seconds from 2.0GHz down to its real frequency?
Sounds a bit suspicious imo... But I haven't looked into it lol
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My phone has an 840 by 480 resolution so for a tablet that suck. I'd say don't buy it. It'll be a waste of money.
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)
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Is it shipping with a 840x480 resolution close to what most Chinese tablets (i've seen anyway) use? And is it really using a Samsung chip? Not, say, a "Samsug Exnos" chip or some bs? Does it throttle within seconds from 2.0GHz down to its real frequency?
Sounds a bit suspicious imo... But I haven't looked into it lol
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It has a 1920 x 1080 IPS screen with the real Samsung chip in it...here are the specs:
Model
voyo a15
Operation System
Android 4.2.2
Screen
11.6 inch Capacitive Multi-touch 10 Points
Resolution
1920x1080 pixels
CPU
samsung Exynos 5250 dual core 1.8GHz ARM Cortex-A15
GPU
Mali T604
RAM
2GB DDR3
ROM
16GB
Webcam
Dual-Camera:Front,2.0 Mega Pixel, Rear, 2.0 Mega Pixel
Wireless
Wifi 802.11a b/g/n
3G
Supporting External 3G Modem
G-sensor
Support
Bluetooth
Yes
HDMI
1080p
GPS
No
Power
Battery
11500mAh
Working Time
Up to 8 Hours
Power Device
AC Adapter Input 100/240V
Device Specification
Color
front black, back silver color
Dimensions
293×188×9.0mm
Net Weight
700g
Software Support
Office
Support MS Office Word, PPT, Excel
Gaming
Support 3D gaming
Email
Gmail, POP3/SMTP/IMAP4
Others
No
Multi-Media
Video
Support 1080P, RM, RMVB, AVI(H.264/H.263), MOV, WMV, MP4, ASF, 3GP, TS, etc.
Audio
Support MP3, WMA, WAV, APE, FLAC, AAC, OGG, etc.
Picture
Support JPG, BMP, PNG, TIFF.
E-Book
Support TXT, PDF, CHM, HTML, PDB, UMD, FB2, etc.
Ports
1 x USB
1 x TF Card Slot
1 x DC Jack
1 x Earphone Jack
1 x HDMI
What's in the box
1 x voyo a15 Tablet PC
1 x Charger
Looks good on paper...and is really cheap. Might be good for a comic reader. There is an unboxing video of it where they say the cpu runs at a max of 2.0 GHz.Are there any other (non-Chinese made) 11.6 inch high res tablets coming out?
Don't buy anything from China. I gurentee you when you get the tablet it will say all those specs and mabey the screen will be HD, but the processor will probably be like a 1 core 800mhz or something with 512mb of ram.
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gsx955 said:
I can't post links since this is my first post, but I found a tablet called the Voyo A15 which uses the Samsung Exynos 5250 clocked at 2.0 GHz.
Has anyone seen one of these in real life? I was really excited when I heard the rumor of the Nexus 11, but that seems to have faded away. I really wanted a bigger screen (mostly for comic book reading), but no-one seems to be making 11.6 inch android tablets for sale in the USA. This has the same processor as the N10...has anyone here had any experience with Chinese tablets? It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it? Thanks for any insight you guys might have...
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Anyway, If it's comic book reading you want, the Nexus 10 is perfect, at least for me. I don't understand what difference one more inch on the screen will make, but I do know that reading comic books on the Nexus 10 screen is an amazing experience.
Sent from my GTN7100 or the Nexus 10, heaven knows.
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SacGuru said:
Anyway, If it's comic book reading you want, the Nexus 10 is perfect, at least for me. I don't understand what difference one more inch on the screen will make, but I do know that reading comic books on the Nexus 10 screen is an amazing experience.
Sent from my GTN7100 or the Nexus 10, heaven knows.
Those who help noobs go to heaven. True story.
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I already read them on a 10 inch screen (Toshiba Thrive) but I find the pages are a little smaller than actual size, and I guess my eyes are going as I age, lol! I actually wanted them to be a little bigger than actual size, without scrolling...otherwise I would already have the N10.
I would like to see a refreshed Nexus 10 with a new design. Should let Sony design it this time. Their Xperia Z line is beautiful.
Itaintrite said:
I would like to see a refreshed Nexus 10 with a new design. Should let Sony design it this time. Their Xperia Z line is beautiful.
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Sure, nice looking, but screen angles aren't good.
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Sure, nice looking, but screen angles aren't good.
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Didn't say it was perfect Just beautifully designed. Throw in a hi-res Samsung screen and we're good to go.
I wasn't aware of any non-Samsung devices being able to use Samsung's chips? I mean I'm sure Samsung could allow it; I just never heard of them doing so...
h**p://w*w.spemall.com/voyo-A15-Tablet-PC-11-6-Inch-1900-1080-IPS-Screen-Android-4-2-Exynos-5250-1-8GHz-Quad-Core-Dual-Cameras-Bluetooth-2G-16G_g.html
It looks legit...how bad could this be, lol! Are there any higher quality 11.6 tablets out there?
That site is legit. Send them an email to confirm the specs. They have pretty good customer service.
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The tablet is legit, its just that are tiny bugs in Chinese hardware that bug you to no end. (Poor WiFi strength, screen angles, app compatibility even with basics like YouTube) Id advise against it. Buy a Windows 8 tab with Haswell if you're looking for bigger sizes.
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The tablet is legit, its just that are tiny bugs in Chinese hardware that bug you to no end. (Poor WiFi strength, screen angles, app compatibility even with basics like YouTube) Id advise against it. Buy a Windows 8 tab with Haswell if you're looking for bigger sizes.
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I agree with everything, though w8 tablets are way more expensive.
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I wasn't aware of any non-Samsung devices being able to use Samsung's chips? I mean I'm sure Samsung could allow it; I just never heard of them doing so...
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Well, iPads ran Samsung hardware for years.
Ipads run the best of samsung components better said ..
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dibblebill said:
Well, iPads ran Samsung hardware for years.
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Sorta kinda. Samsung is a major supplier for any number of parts (from screens to silicon), but the chipsets actually driving iOS devices are customized builds by Apple. Samsung is, at least in regards to apple in charge of the fabrication, not the design.
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I agree with everything, though w8 tablets are way more expensive.
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I also agree, but I really don't want a windows tablet. Honestly, now that I started questioning this, I am finding myself more curious. I guess if it sucks, it wouldn't be the first $300 I have wasted on disappointing tech. I'm this close to getting anyway, even though I realize it might be a mistake...but what if it as good as it seems, lol? Man, why do I agonize over stuff like this...
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Your efforts to prevent spam are causing me to spam.... I have information but it wont let me post links it so here comes the unintentional spam.
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Every four minutes really...
I am an electrical engineer, with 9 years experience in the field of PCB layout, design, and programming.
I have information to share which is valuable to this community. I guess I will share it in a few days when its relevance has diminished.
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Every four minutes really...
I am an electrical engineer, with 9 years experience in the field of PCB layout, design, and programming.
I have information to share which is valuable to this community. I guess I will share it in a few days when its relevance has diminished.
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Here is my third post, yay, 7 to go before I can get to my point!
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Here is my third post, yay, 7 to go before I can get to my point!
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You can guess my point though if you search the title of this thread. There is a youtube video which I will link in 6 posts which I find fascinating.
This smart watch has android, is inexpensive, has a pulse monitor, and "e-ink" screen. I wanted to know if it is any good. It has the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 but is much thinner 9.5 mm.
Thoughts?
No SIM or WiFi, 320mAh battery. Android 4.2.
I'm sure it's a good piece for those that prefer notifies. I guess someone will have to buy it and test it.
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No SIM or WiFi, 320mAh battery. Android 4.2.
I'm sure it's a good piece for those that prefer notifies. I guess someone will have to buy it and test it.
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Yeah no SIM sucks, or WiFi, no Compass, no GPS. But it does have Bluetooth 4.0/2.0 whatever that is... anyone know if that is a mistranslated 4.2?
That is a small battery true 320mAh but that possibly leads to the lighter weight, lower height of the watch which is 9.5mm thick.
It does have Android 4.3 actually, and it uses the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 which is already ported. It only has 512 megs rom and 512 megs ram, which will be a problem for adding apps, that right there is almost enough to kill it.
The big thing it does have is.
Pulse Monitor
E-Ink Background, it switches between e-ink and TFT seamlessly, there is a youtube video that makes me want to buy this watch.
Run time is 7 days on paper, while displaying time 100% of the time using e-ink (very cool)
It has android so it can be upgraded at some point by the ppl in this forum!!!
If there is something similar / better out there for the same money let me know before I buy this one! I am leaning toward this one mainly because it is so thin, its actually thinner than the apple watch (10.5mm)
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Yeah no SIM sucks, or WiFi, no Compass, no GPS. But it does have Bluetooth 4.0/2.0 whatever that is... anyone know if that is a mistranslated 4.2?
That is a small battery true 320mAh but that possibly leads to the lighter weight, lower height of the watch which is 9.5mm thick.
It does have Android 4.3 actually, and it uses the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 which is already ported. It only has 512 megs rom and 512 megs ram, which will be a problem for adding apps, that right there is almost enough to kill it.
The big thing it does have is.
Pulse Monitor
E-Ink Background, it switches between e-ink and TFT seamlessly, there is a youtube video that makes me want to buy this watch.
Run time is 7 days on paper, while displaying time 100% of the time using e-ink (very cool)
It has android so it can be upgraded at some point by the ppl in this forum!!!
If there is something similar / better out there for the same money let me know before I buy this one! I am leaning toward this one mainly because it is so thin, its actually thinner than the apple watch (10.5mm)
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So, there is the Reedone X1 which is interesting but does not have the low power e-ink TFT thing going for it. I like the specs but dont like the 11mm thickness and lack of e-ink TFT.
Reedone website shows the Reedone X2 (there would be a link here, but you have to find it yourself because reasons!) The Reedone X2 is the same watch as the X2 Smartwatch from IQI, with same pictures and stats.
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So, there is the Reedone X1 which is interesting but does not have the low power e-ink TFT thing going for it. I like the specs but dont like the 11mm thickness and lack of e-ink TFT.
Reedone website shows the Reedone X2 (there would be a link here, but you have to find it yourself because reasons!) The Reedone X2 is the same watch as the X2 Smartwatch from IQI, with same pictures and stats.
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a smart watch then?
This looks the same as GearBest are selling as Atongm WO13 http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_166847.html and has the same display as he MiMi Mi-W3/Podoor PW305II http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_139964.html
I looked at this a few weeks ago but could see no advantages over the Mi-W3 I already own plus the following disadvantages:
Not waterproof - the MiMi is IP67 rated.
Much larger in height.
Proprietary charging cradle - what is the point when it isn't waterproof and uses exposed electrodes? Just something else to lose or break.
Edited to add: The BT 4.0/2.0 is because it uses a dual module that connects with either 2.0 or 4.0 protocols dependent on the device it is connecting to.
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This looks the same as GearBest are selling as Atongm WO13 http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_166847.html and has the same display as he MiMi Mi-W3/Podoor PW305II http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_139964.html
I looked at this a few weeks ago but could see no advantages over the Mi-W3 I already own plus the following disadvantages:
Not waterproof - the MiMi is IP67 rated.
Much larger in height.
Proprietary charging cradle - what is the point when it isn't waterproof and uses exposed electrodes? Just something else to lose or break.
Edited to add: The BT 4.0/2.0 is because it uses a dual module that connects with either 2.0 or 4.0 protocols dependent on the device it is connecting to.
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I have been researching this over the past day.
It appears to be sold under 3 different brands
As Antogm W013 through gearbest,, geekbuying, lightinthebox, everbuying/dealsmachine, coolicool/efoxshop, Ebay and Aliexpress - but no stainless version
As IQI X2 on Aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...32324780280.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.tnhc0X
As Simptech X2 on Lightinthebox and Aliexpress -
http://www.lightinthebox.com/simpte...kers-waterproof-for-andriod-ios_p2863209.html
Cheapest I found was mobile version of aliexpress for $72 (simptech version)
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32334308627.html?spm=2114.32010308.0.47.u2PDkj
There are two videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-_uypACBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJO-_JkKDGc
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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I don't believe it is Android based, apart from the splash screen there is nothing in the videos or adverts to suggest that it is. As it uses an Ingenics XBurst CPU I would guess it uses a version of their MIPS compiled Linux.
Although on Pandawill and Geekbuying, it clearly states Android 4.3 as the OS. Also, didn't the smart Q run on the same JZ4775 chip and run Android? i'll check with all the china shops tommorow and see what they say about the OS.
LightInTheBox says Android too, I was just going on the videos and screenshots, neither of which look like any Android I've seen, but of course it could be heavily customised.
Read the reviews of the NO.1 G2. Doesn't sound like a good buy. I'd definitely wait to see what the S7ler or others reviews have to say about the Sun.
maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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Thats what I'm thinking. I'll check with them both later today and see.
sambutler86 said:
I have been researching this over the past day.
It appears to be sold under 3 different brands
As Antogm W013 through gearbest,, geekbuying, lightinthebox, everbuying/dealsmachine, coolicool/efoxshop, Ebay and Aliexpress - but no stainless version
As IQI X2 on Aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...32324780280.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.tnhc0X
As Simptech X2 on Lightinthebox and Aliexpress -
http://www.lightinthebox.com/simpte...kers-waterproof-for-andriod-ios_p2863209.html
Cheapest I found was mobile version of aliexpress for $72 (simptech version)
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32334308627.html?spm=2114.32010308.0.47.u2PDkj
There are two videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-_uypACBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJO-_JkKDGc
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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I saw a video of the No. 1 S2 and the screen goes to the edges and beyond. I saw lettering go past the screen, which looks glitchy. I was tempted because of how slick it looks but they didn't do any work on switching the square scene to a round screen.
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maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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Geekbuying claims it has Android 4.3 on it....but still not 100% convinced.
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Yes, It does. that video shows the Android boot animation, plus Android is the only OS JZ4775 supports.
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I am torn between this one and the Reedone HG-X1.
ISI X2 :
72.08 - Lowest Price
TFT Screen, Heart Rate Monitor, Pedometer, etc...
Reedone HG-X1:
80.99 - Lowest Price (black plastic?) at
Same as ISI X2
+GPS
+Waterproof
+Built in USB Connector
- 1mm thicker at dial
They are very similar. I have not seen a video on the Reedone yet though.
Any thoughts on these? Do they actually run Android? Would android gear be portable to these?
Check this new Android Smartwatch from Lemfo go AliExpress Lemfo store or google it for Lemfo Lem X just I will give some of the specifications; design like the Lem 7 but removable straps, 2.03 inches full around Amoled display, the SoC mtk6739 with power VR GPU, 1/16 Gb, Bluetooth 4.2 , 4G capability , better camera and Android 7.1, but not Bluetooth calling feature, to bad.
It’s in presell right now .
Bigger is better
Once again, AliExpress is a bit sloppy with the details.
From the "Item Specifics": battery 450mAh, camera 5MP
From the "Product Description": battery 900 mAh, camera 8MP.
Which is correct?
900Mah and the price went down
The watch looks promising but I do not trust the render pictures. On official pictures the Lem7 is almost bezelless but in reality there is a big bezel. If the watch has also such a bezel and a 2inch screen it will be huge...
If it’s like that I will cancel the order, I don’t think that they will do like that because the Lem 7 has a lot feedback about it, will see
I bought one on pre sale. Specs are really good! Can’t wait!! Game changer compared to other watches!
Replaceable straps, nice resolution, big screen, nice cpu. Like it!
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I bought one on pre sale. Specs are really good! Can’t wait!! Game changer compared to other watches!
Replaceable straps, nice resolution, big screen, nice cpu. Like it!
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Ip67 waterproof,900Mah battery capacity , but maybe if you notices its going to have the flat tire,but small,because is the resolution is 640 x 590 just 48 for full around i believe so????
https://www.omnicalculator.com/othe...ght_res:640,width_res:590,diag_size:2.03!inch
428.8ppi density
one more other things no buttons so i am wandering , beside the red one on the left side,maybe power on/off
Think the button is a “home button” have to wait for a review on youtube for real life experience. All we got now is the rendered images from alieexpress(photoshopped)
But it’s only 140 euro. So worth a gamble
Didn’t get the flat tire remark, but you are right, comes due to the resolution. Hopefully there are some nice dials, so it won’t be that obvious.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nXmzvZ6twn4
No bad the video good idea, they replay couples of my messages and the flat tire it’s there.
look a this the first video of the Lem X
https://youtu.be/GjAjX0ctHMQ
https://www.xiaomitoday.com/lemfo-lem-x-review
But looks nice. Guy in the video got thin arms. Or the watch is enormous
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https://youtu.be/GjAjX0ctHMQ
Oops, didn’t see your post
But looks nice. Guy in the video got thin arms. Or the watch is enormous
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yeah thats what i said is a monster device in RASC forums roundandroidsmartwatched proboard,go over there be a member nice peoples,but remember those chinese peoples have smaller wrist. you know the style is identical to the moto 360
Why do they never implement NFC payments?!
Such great specs, but for lack of NFC. I know QR code payments are the most common in China, but why not add this feature and broaden the appeal of the watch?
I'm not familiar with these smartwatches - from the description it appears that you can install apps from the Play store... is this correct?
LEM X question
Any one know the strap size?
Who every has one, want are you getting on the average for battery life?
not in market yet, we will know everything after august 28
First look
https://youtu.be/w5qd5MBhB6o
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Such great specs, but for lack of NFC. I know QR code payments are the most common in China, but why not add this feature and broaden the appeal of the watch?
I'm not familiar with these smartwatches - from the description it appears that you can install apps from the Play store... is this correct?
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This companies, not being racist or anything, they think of the market margins....2 billion people/customers in China vs, what, about 700 million in Europe. That's how Huawei started and that's why they toped Samsung on sales.
There are more people that can afford a £100 watch then a £300 one.
It won't cost more to add NFC and Bluetooth calling but it takes time to implement the software feature and to sort the bugs, as all the developers on this site will know.
This componies there are about quantity and new models as soon as possible.
What they do is watch the big companies watch/phone tech leaks and they will try to implement them first. 1 penny plus 1 penny makes 8.7 trillion $.
Lemfo lem x screen bubble
I just got my watch and like it but I seem to have a type of air bubble in the top left of the screen, has anyone else had this and if so can I fix or do I need a replacement.
Cheers
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I just got my watch and like it but I seem to have a type of air bubble in the top left of the screen, has anyone else had this and if so can I fix or do I need a replacement.
Cheers
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There should be No Air bubble. Post a Screen shot.