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32GB, X7510 replacement early 2009?

Some recent unconnected bits of information on the web have got me thinking that sooner or later there will be another iteration of the Athena series, an x7520 if you will.
First, on Engadget/Engadgetmobile, there was the blog on
How would you change HTC's Advantage X7510?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/how-would-you-change-htcs-advantage-x7510/
Then there are the regular posts about new HTC projects with new code names, for instance, HTC QUAR100:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/09/08/the-htc-quar100-a-north-american-exclusive/
Then finally, even though it hasn't been announced, Samsung is now making 1.0 inch form factor SSD's, and they are not sata, but pata devices (like the 1.0 microdrives). The largest is 32gb, which trumps the x7510's 16gb:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productList.do?fmly_id=161
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE32GZMPP
I'd wager that a successor will be announced around the CES show next year.
All I can say, is that it better have great video performance and the joystick back.
What do you think?

What do I think ???
I don't think there would be any replacement for the HTC Advantage. Why? It is not selling well because of their stupid decision to remove the buttons and joy stick control. Not to mention, the only thing they changed is the keyboard and flash memory. No provider wants to carry it. The only phone operator I read offering the X7510 is TMobile Germany. Even at the country of it's origin, it barely made news when released. The only thing that will save the X7510 at this point is if HTC gave it to phone operators at a very cheap price. Which I suggest they should do now rather than let it sit in their storage due to better models coming out with better specs.
I am sorry to admit this... but I think this is the end for our babies with 5 inch screens. Which I hope won't be the case. I believe a better move on their part is to update the HTC Universal.

I think you have some valid points.
Many of the comments on 'How you would change the x7510' on the Engadget thread mentioned lack of joystick and OK buttons. Major mistake on HTC's parts.
So really there are three options:
HTC abandons the format
HTC introduces one more model with 32GB SSD, joystick or not.
HTC introduces a similar form factor, but totally new design.
I believe that they will at least do the 32GB option, as they don't have to change any hardware.

I would prefer the following changes atleast.
1. More slimmer device.
2. Change the old PXA270 processor to PXA310.
3. Newer phones come with 256MB RAM and 512MB ROM.
Hopefully they will change those too in the new model.
4. Windows Mobile 7
6. Support 800*480 Resolution.
--Srini

Heres what I would improve:
1. Remove the buttons on the face, and make the screen larger (stretch in to the corners of the device. Put the removed buttons on the sides or top of the device.
2. Higher res screen 800x480 ?
3. Larger microdrive, 64GB atleast.
4. Full size SD-card lot, maybe even two.
5. Make the device slimmer.
6. Slide out keyboard (portrait).
7. Newer generation and faster CPU (800MHz ?) / GPU (NVidia ?) combo.
8. 300MB RAM (atleast)
9. 512MB ROM (atleast)
10. Better camera with atleast VGA @ 30 FPS recording.
11. Make a docking station for the device in portrait. With the headphone out and USB host in front and the rest on the back. Dont forget support to charge a second battery.
So what do you guys think ?

1. Put vibrate back in.
2. Change screen aspect ratio from 4:3 to 16:9 (would make it easier to hold like a phone and would give us full-page-width browsing, video)
3. Give us a private speaker so we don't have to carry BT all the time.
4. Put the buttons and joystick back.
5. Include chipset for WiMax.

Yeah what he said plus what I said makes it the almost perfect PDA.

there is something in the works that i know of but i dont know if u would consider this a athena successor. cant give details though.

Now why did you do that ? Common tell us something ! Just anything !

StashCompInc said:
Now why did you do that ? Common tell us something ! Just anything !
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problem is i dont know if u would consider it a athena successor. it doesnt have a microdrive and the screen isn't as big. sorry cant give more details.

Touch HD ?, or is it the Omni your talking about ? None of them are up to the task.

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Touch HD ?, or is it the Omni your talking about ? None of them are up to the task.
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nope. not any one of those. these devices the public doesnt know about.

Well then thats something to look forward to.

Nope the magic words "screen isn't as big" and I loose all interest.
The biggest appeal to me for the Athena is the 5 inch screen.
I would however like it slimmer and a full size sd slot.
With the joystick back, a slimmer unit and a full size sd slot it would be near the perfect device for me.

I don't think HTC will simply abandon Athena form factor. For one thing it looks that MIDs (Mobile Internet Devices) will be a popular thing next year and for me Athena is a true MID and for now the best MID.
So what I'm hoping for is that HTC will come up with a new MID device sometime in 2009, that could be a successor to Athena, hopefully with WM7 (I have a silly idea that WM7 will be released together with Win7 sometime in June/July) and with 5" WVGA screen, new faster CPU and more storage...

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nope. not any one of those. these devices the public doesnt know about.
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Pawel,
I know Blackstone is not quite a replacement for the 5 inch screen, but it has FM radio, and faster HSDPA speed. I'm quite keen to go for this. However, if there is something better in the pipeline, I might wait.
I like Blackstone's form factor, but was disappointed with its mere 3.8 inch screen. Of course there are also other disappointments such as the lack of joystick, tv-out, small built-in storage, but the biggest disappointment is the small size.
I hope the replacement model that you have been told retains the 5 inch screen, latest HSDPA, wimax, have embedded earpiece, and similar form factor as blackstone (ie slim and light). Am I likely to be disappointed?

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Pawel,
I know Blackstone is not quite a replacement for the 5 inch screen, but it has FM radio, and faster HSDPA speed. I'm quite keen to go for this. However, if there is something better in the pipeline, I might wait.
I like Blackstone's form factor, but was disappointed with its mere 3.8 inch screen. Of course there are also other disappointments such as the lack of joystick, tv-out, small built-in storage, but the biggest disappointment is the small size.
I hope the replacement model that you have been told retains the 5 inch screen, latest HSDPA, wimax, have embedded earpiece, and similar form factor as blackstone (ie slim and light). Am I likely to be disappointed?
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if u enjoy the blackstone. i would go for it. the one im talking about doesnt have all the specs u wanted btw.
edit: btw i want to get the blackstone so there really is nothing too much better in the near term coming.

Pawel062 said:
if u enjoy the blackstone. i would go for it. the one im talking about doesnt have all the specs u wanted btw.
edit: btw i want to get the blackstone so there really is nothing too much better in the near term coming.
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What about the HTC 8290? If the specs are correct, it's like the Touch HD, except it's got WiMax and TV-out. The lack of TV-out on the Touch HD is a big disappointment to me. I would have bought the HD instantaneously had it had this feature. If the 8290 does have it, and has both WiMax and HSPA, it seems very attractive to me.
Regarding the Advantage, I believe they will keep the form factor because as stated above, MIDs are coming and the Advantage really is pocketable and light enough compared to many other MID offerings. If I were HTC I'd wait for WM 7, and probably use the Tegra APX2500 processor.

Pawel062 said:
if u enjoy the blackstone. i would go for it. the one im talking about doesnt have all the specs u wanted btw.
edit: btw i want to get the blackstone so there really is nothing too much better in the near term coming.
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Pawel,
Thanks for your info. I guess I would go for Blackstone as an interim device while waiting for the ultimate Athena replacement. I thought I could live with a 4 inch (and 3.8 inch is close to that) screen, but after making up a prototype and played with it, I don't think the screen is big enough yet. May be 4.5 at the very minimum. I had played with the iPhone and just don't like the small screen. Too much zooming in and out when surfing the net and that drives me nut after a while.
Sigh... May be Athena as it is now is still the best, even when compared to Blackstone.

eaglesteve said:
Pawel,
Thanks for your info. I guess I would go for Blackstone as an interim device while waiting for the ultimate Athena replacement. I thought I could live with a 4 inch (and 3.8 inch is close to that) screen, but after making up a prototype and played with it, I don't think the screen is big enough yet. May be 4.5 at the very minimum. I had played with the iPhone and just don't like the small screen. Too much zooming in and out when surfing the net and that drives me nut after a while.
Sigh... May be Athena as it is now is still the best, even when compared to Blackstone.
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yea, i dont mind the 3.8in screen. i have the iphone 3g and have gotten used to the zooming bc of the multitouch. afaik, there isnt anything with a screen bigger than that of the blackstones coming out anytime soon unless theres something in the works that i dont know about.

X2 wishes. Only 1 item allowed.

I had a conversation with a couple of friends the other day and we talked about the X2. Everyone made a ton of suggestions as usual. That got me thinking...... what is the single most desirable feature/part/option that YOU would like to see in the X2.
It may be anything from android or WinMo 7 to capacitive touchscreen, dvb-h receiver, flush screen, accelerometer or a 5 row keyboard . You may choose only one thing, so choose wisely....
After a lot of deliberation I decided that the featue I want the most is.....
Multi-touch resistive screen . Yes, I said resistive. Check it out:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/stantums-mind-blowing-multitouch-interface-on-video/

I hate resistive touch screens because you can't use a stylus. I would say 4 inch screen Xperia.

it should be programable hw keyboard...change the language, then the letters on the buttons change accordingly

The ability to play an 1376 Kbps Bit Rate Xvid, 164 Kbps Audio MP3 at 624x352 Pixel File at a full 100% without dropped frames.
You didn't say I couldn't list the faults of the X1 which are:
Keyboard slightly too small.
Main Hardware buttons a little fiddly
External speaker/ringtone output rubbish.
Camera too slow.
Other than that I absolutely adore my X1 (Even though it does have 'the crack' (Which I've never bothered to return to get fixed))

itje said:
it should be programable hw keyboard...change the language, then the letters on the buttons change accordingly
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For that to work, typing in the sun will be a pain!

keep the same physical size but 3.2" or larger screen.

poetryrocksalot said:
For that to work, typing in the sun will be a pain!
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Unless you had one of these keyboards!
Samsung's Alias 2 dynamic E-Ink keypad in action
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/08/video-samsung-alias-2-dynamic-e-ink-keypad-in-action/

well since my baby is near perfect, Id say Id like a more intuative OS, even if itswindows based...it need to flow alot smoother.

having one video player to play all videos (divx, xvid, wmv,mp4,3gp,mov...) smoothly no matter how high the bitrate.

12.1 mp camera, something I want in a phone that's both sexy and powerful.

I would say better support from SE, regular firmware updates, a separate support group who know in and out of the X2, including the workings of WinMO.

THJahar said:
Unless you had one of these keyboards!
Samsung's Alias 2 dynamic E-Ink keypad in action
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/08/video-samsung-alias-2-dynamic-e-ink-keypad-in-action/
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How do you know this can be seen in sunlight?

Not a cheap housing
a decent and good one please s.e that the only thing regret my buying this peace of cr....

3.2" WVGA screen, not more than 53mm width, no moving part (no slide out keyboard/keypad).

Fulgore69 said:
Not a cheap housing
a decent and good one please s.e that the only thing regret my buying this peace of cr....
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cheap housing? You have got to be kidding me, the quality is second place to Iphone. cheap housing? it's almost completely covered in some sort of metal. Not even the N95 has a good quality design that beats the Xperia!

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3.2" WVGA screen, not more than 53mm width, no moving part (no slide out keyboard/keypad).
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's basically a Touch Diamond 2...lmfao!!!!!!!!!

Shave at least 5mm from the thickness. Having a thin slider would wow just about everyone.

1ghz + dual core processor
ps. itje, when your friend gets his prototype model of the x2 are u going to be a ble to post some pics or tell us some pre release model specs?

Ganondolf said:
1ghz + dual core processor
ps. itje, when your friend gets his prototype model of the x2 are u going to be a ble to post some pics or tell us some pre release model specs?
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I dont know, Ill take what I can, and share what I am told I can share..thats all I can do

itje said:
I dont know, Ill take what I can, and share what I am told I can share..thats all I can do
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after they have sent prototype models out im sure SE will show something before it gets leaked on the net. as it will be noticed that certain se staff have a new model phone.

HTC Touch Pro 2, or HTC Touch HD?

Hey guys new member of the forum i will soon be getting a new phone and it will be either the Touch Pro 2 or the Touch HD. I'm not sure which one to get as i can live without a hardware keyboard which makes the device slimmer and easier to hold, but the question is what is the difference between the 2 phones? are they running the exact same software with the same features etc etc? if they operate exactly the same the HD looks nicer in my opinion, this will be my first time owning a windows mobile, will both phones get the same updates/custom roms. Other peoples opinions on these phones would be a great help, thanks in advance.
Sorry if this is not the correct section to be posting this.

If it was me, I'd maybe hold out for the HTC Leo, the HD's successor
Another thread which is kinda similar regarding people asking what to get after the HD maybe worth a read

thanks for your reply i will have a read of that, the issue is my contract runs out soon and the Leo doesn't yet have a release date and will be getting a new phone the day my contract runs out as i can't get through the day without my phone lol.

Isn't much difference apart from the qwerty keyboard, screen size, D-pad and camera. Generally everything else is similar. Check both the specs and read the wiki for both devices, have a look at the rom forums on both to see whats available.
It would most likely come down what you want, or what your looking for in a device. Basically personal opinion.

TP2 every day in the week.

thanks for the feedback guys. Well i prefer a slightly bigger screen and a slimmer looking phone and find the TP2 to be a little bulky, but if the software is the same this helps a lot as i like the look of the software from the TP2 which will be the same on the HD.
ArtieQ said:
TP2 every day in the week.
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could you maybe give some reasons on your view on why this would be the best choice? Thanks

The HD .. Huge screen .. and um... rather slim and cute looking .. I have a black silicone suround for it and mirror suraface.... and a huge screen with a huge resoultion .. did I mention that?

dgattenb said:
The HD .. Huge screen .. and um... rather slim and cute looking .. I have a black silicone suround for it and mirror suraface.... and a huge screen with a huge resoultion .. did I mention that?
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Huge screen, but huge screen means less pixels = less quality. TP2 got a huge advantage when it comes down to screen resolution vs. HD. And the TP2 got a keyboard and 4 hardware buttons you can actually feel.

ArtieQ said:
Huge screen, but huge screen means less pixels = less quality. TP2 got a huge advantage when it comes down to screen resolution vs. HD.
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You're kidding, right? TP2 and HD both have WVGA - you're not seriously telling me that the pixel density on the HD is not high enough? I doubt you could even tell the difference between the two concerning DPI!
And I'd rather have a larger screen than a smaller one - even if the higher DPI would make a difference... What's the use of having a higher DPI on a smaller screen?

Hd is better in music as it has 3.5 mm audio jack which means better sound quality and also hd is higher in price (the only issue is that hd will not get wm6.5 officially from htc ) but i think it will but htc does not announce that to sell alot of the recent devices

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Hd is better in music as it has 3.5 mm audio jack which means better sound quality and also hd is higher in price (the only issue is that hd will not get wm6.5 officially from htc ) but i think it will but htc does not announce that to sell alot of the recent devices
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I have a Touch HD, although it is in for repairs at the moment, and would consider the TP2 but the lack of a headphone jack is killing me. I live in the US and have not had a chance to play with the TP2. I have AT&T which I am assuming will not have the headphone jack like the Sprint and Verizon (CDMA) model has, Lucky Bastards!!! Anyway, that is what will probably stop me from getting the TP2.
I am sure there will be other options with a headphone jack in the future since HTC has made it clear that most future devices will have them. TP3?? I think they are a little sore from the lashing they took for not putting it in the TP2 which is clearly a great multimedia device. Kida like buying some of the original flat panel tv's that didn't have a TV tuner or speakers. Kinda defeats the purpose.

Well I personally recomend the Touch HD (not only for the reason that I have it and I love it ) when I was choosing my device I was looking for the bigest screen on the market as I like browsing the internet a lot and let me say this BIGGER IS BETTER when we are talking about PPC's nothing can change that also you get a cool design that gets the "WOW" effect from anyone and your pants will not fall to the ground when you are carying it in your pocket.It really depends on the person but for me if I have two phones with almost equal specifications I'll go for the bigger screen even if it is 0,1 inches bigger than the other one.Leo is probably my next device but I heard great things about TOSHIBA's TG01 4.1 inch monster with 1ghz proccessor that's only 10mm thick if you can get your hands on that (it's available in some areas) I would recommend that.

If you are only using one phone I would get the TP2. As I already have the E71 for emails etc I ordered the Touch HD yesterday as a semi tablet.

if it were me, id let my contract run out, continue using the service with your old phone until Leo is released, then upgrade if your carrier runs with the leo, if it doesnt id then upgrade to the most expencive phone they offer then leaving it in its box id flog it on ebay an use the money to buy the leo...
just my thoughts

Mobiles.co.uk listing Touch HD 2 (Coming Soon)

Do you think that this is the LEO?
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/htc-touch-hd2.html

Nice find.
Judging by the "Full Spec" tab it's the Leo.

Budadank said:
Nice find.
Judging by the "Full Spec" tab it's the Leo.
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Didn't realise there was a full spec there allready. It does actually say "The HTC Touch HD 2 is also known as the Leo and Pro 3"
Doesn't say anything about a Digital Compass!! Is it supposed to have one?

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Do you think that this is the LEO?
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/htc-touch-hd2.html
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Interesting, must have missed that one

richardirv said:
Didn't realise there was a full spec there allready. It does actually say "The HTC Touch HD 2 is also known as the Leo and Pro 3"
Doesn't say anything about a Digital Compass!! Is it supposed to have one?
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AFAIK the Leo definitely is supposed to have a compass! If it doesn't, that would be the dumbest mistake HTC ever made... A 3 $ piece of hardware missing that would make a 600 $ phone so much better...

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AFAIK the Leo definitely is supposed to have a compass! If it doesn't, that would be the dumbest mistake HTC ever made... A 3 $ piece of hardware missing that would make a 600 $ phone so much better...
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Lets just hope that its just the Spec that is wrong!

lets hope digital compass is included in phone
otherwise it would be a real blunder by htc
i think camera should be 8MP at least because 5MP is outdated .........
any how waiting for device .........

I am a bit suspicious but....
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/htc-leo-looking-confirmed-for-o2-uk-debut-will-be-free-on-the-r/
As to spec - I imagine that the specs touted to date are generally on the money, but also quite incomplete. I too heave read that the Leo is predicted to have a digi compass, I guess the next few days will reveal all - little point in HTC keeping this thing under wraps any longer, it's most definitely out of the bag now!
I am getting very very impatient - I WANT this phone!
- 12th Oct?! That's do-able...
Oddly - the aspect of it that atracts me the most (as in, if it didn't have it, I probably wouldn't shell out the £500-ish for the SIM free version I typically buy) is the capacitive screen - I absolutely HATE resistive screens and has long been a bugbear on WM touchphones.

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i think camera should be 8MP at least because 5MP is outdated .........
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The MP-count is not important anymore... A 5 MP camera can be far better than any 8 MP camera with the right hardware and software! So a higher MP-number doesn't say anything about the quality of the pictures anymore...
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm

MAMeingast said:
The MP-count is not important anymore... A 5 MP camera can be far better than any 8 MP camera with the right hardware and software! So a higher MP-number doesn't say anything about the quality of the pictures anymore...
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
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Whilst the underlying message that pixels are not the be-all and end-all is correct, a lot of what 'Ken' says is plain wrong.
A VGA-resolution camera is NOT good enough to produce 6x4 prints, not by a mile. 300dpi is taken to be the measure of a true 'photo quality' print, which means you need around a 2MP camera to produce a decent print at that size.
As for mobiles.co.uk, they seem to list every handset ever announced on their 'Coming Soon' page, whether they end up carrying it or not.
They've even got the fabled Sony Ericsson X3 listed.

Another mistake:
"3G
The HTC Touch HD2, formerly known as the Leo, features 3G which stands for third generation, and the system is the third generation in the evolution of mobile networks, after analogue and GSM. 3G offers high speed data transfers and the ability to make video calls between compatible mobile phones."
HTC Leo hasn´t videoconference.

The part you have highlighted is just a standard blurb about what 3G is.
3G, as a technology, does allow people to make video-calls. So that part is not incorrect.
And Leo is a 3G-capable phone, so that's correct as well.
It doesn't actually say Leo is capable of making video-calls though.
So whilst it is certainly a poorly-worded and misleading piece of text, technically speaking it's not incorrect.

Think we can safely assume that the full spec for the Leo hasn't been officially released yet and a lot of people/sites are making educated guessing with no confirmation. Until HTC officially release this I take all other sites specs with a pince of salt!!

Mobiles have also had the HTC Max 4G on their site for an absolute age although as far as I know this phone was never released in the UK. Have you seen the blogs about the O2 catalogue with pictures of the HTC HD2: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/30/htc-hd2-makes-first-official-appearance-in-o2-uk-catalog/

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Mobiles have also had the HTC Max 4G on their site...
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Yeah, I noticed that.
It'll never be released in the UK, there's no Wi-max networks for it to run on.

HTC HD Mini

Haven't seen anyone post on here so thought I would...
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hdmini/overview.html

Video Teaser for HD Mini
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTtCGiykDW0

heh, it has wm 6.5.3

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Haven't seen anyone post on here so thought I would...
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hdmini/overview.html
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It have WM7 or update confirmation?.....no?.....no thanks, but i will not buy it, or tell someone to get it!

HD mini...
What makes the HD2 interesting is its big size, so why would you want a smaller one?
Different product altogether.

HVGA 320x480 after using an HD2 - no thanks.
When I first got thinking about buying an HD2 I was worried that I might not like such a big bulky screen.
Now - well you'd have to "pry it from my cold dead hands"

Massive Impact, Sensible Size
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Suggesting what they did with HD2 was not sensible then? LOL!!!

I actually like it. While I love my HD2, I don't do anything multimedia-ish on it and so a smaller screen wouldn't bother me..in fact I would prefer a smaller form factor...
but...no camera flash for one thing, slower processor for another.....
I'll wait for the HTC Obsession
EDIT : sorry...the 'rumoured' HTC Obsession

Hi!
Just two questions after I have seen several photos of the new HD Mini (for example on neowin.net):
1. Is it possible to get exactly this colorful wallpaper as background image for the HD2 somewhere?
2. Does the HD Mini still have a page with DirectLinks/QuickLinks?
I mean the HD2 has 9 DirectLinks on its HomeScreen (by default, I know, and by applying some Mods it can be extended to even 75 DirectLinks) when sliding the finger from the bottom up. But I was not able to see such DirectLinks for applications or contacts on any of the images of the HD Mini.
Thanks in advance for your help!
DotWin

i have the hd2 and i will buy this also it is very brilliant device and small

Isn't a 3.2" a bit too cramped for typing, etc.?
Something like 3.6" would have worked much better, IMO.

as keen as i am my HD2 i would prefur a smaller chassis for the same technology. Looks like i will be holding out for the diamond 3 release.
curious how the mini wil be priced though...

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Isn't a 3.2" a bit too cramped for typing, etc.?
Something like 3.6" would have worked much better, IMO.
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kudos and well said - with no hard keyboard it comes down to the onscreen kb. i played with a hd2 and it's nice, mostly because of capacitance though - i hate my hd kb - maybe small onscreen kb with capacitance may work?

I too was very interested when I heard of the HD Mini but ultimately agree with all of the above posts. Just falls short in terms of size (and looks). I use my Touch HD as much for its PDA abilities as I do telecommumications. Fits my hand like a glove and I am happy using with either one handed or two. Give me the chance of a HD2 in the 3.8 screen Touch HD chassis and I would buy one now.

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as keen as i am my HD2 i would prefur a smaller chassis for the same technology. Looks like i will be holding out for the diamond 3 release.
curious how the mini wil be priced though...
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diamond 3 will be the same as hd2 but with 3.7 screen , better choice than hd2

HD Mini is for people who needs small WM phones, compared to the "big" HD2, anyway I like the backplate

rumpleforeskin said:
as keen as i am my HD2 i would prefur a smaller chassis for the same technology. Looks like i will be holding out for the diamond 3 release.
curious how the mini wil be priced though...
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I've allready pre-ordered one from here.
price: €389
arrival date: april 2nd 2010
Grtz,
Degake

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diamond 3 will be the same as hd2 but with 3.7 screen , better choice than hd2
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Have to agree with this and many other postings here; The Mini just falls short in looks, internal hardware specs, and the relatively small screen. What is needed is something like the HTC Desire (with WinMo) and it seems that the 'Diamond 3' will pretty much be this.

their choice of hvga (480x320) really baffles me... they could have at least put in a 640x480 VGA screen like the one from the diamond, wouldn't be a technological challenge would it?
Also, 480x320 seems like a weird aspect ratio...

limestone said:
their choice of hvga (480x320) really baffles me... they could have at least put in a 640x480 VGA screen like the one from the diamond, wouldn't be a technological challenge would it?
Also, 480x320 seems like a weird aspect ratio...
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to make sense 2.5 working that fast they needed to make the processor scales graphics to a low resolution ,in this case 480x320