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Potential Sprint and T-Mobile Merger?

I just read about this on the Washington Post. What are yall thoughts regarding a merger between T-mobile and Sprint?
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Personally, I think it sucks. Not sure how it could benefit the consumer, or the manufacturers... I don't like the idea of there only being 3 big players.... I dont like the idea of GSM/CDMA joining... not even sure how that would work.
Nothing seems beneficial....

This Will Not Be Good,
for 1, which system are they really going to end up using ? Sprint is CDMA my Bet this will be bad for the consumer
Mergers like these inevitably only benefit the Company not the consumer. Ever notice that when one company raises prices the other do so as well? The only "hold mechanism" that prevents this is rigorous competition. When there is only a duo or tri-opoloy then corporate price fixing becomes a sure thing. Remember when (maybe most are not old enough) cable TV was 10 major players, Now ? 3, and what happened as a result of all the mergers and acquisitions ? higher prices and less selection.
On another note : Do you remember SamsungJohn ? and his Great announcement, I wonder if this is it. If it is .........we're getting HOSED..............

I think its very good. as long as they provide the same plan after merger
anyways, Sprint is starting 4g rollout, which is nice for future.
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I heard about that a while ago too. Then there would be "the big three ". The question that comes to mind is, how does that benefit us? lower bills? Better phones? Better network?
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Be assured this isn't about what's best for the customers. It's about what's best for the companies staying profitable.
I don't see any personal benefit from it.
Most likely they'll keep the GSM and CDMA networks and gradually migrate everyone over to LTE.

Yeah, there is NO WAY this benefits the consumer. Likely less high-end phones (dont need as many rollouts/marketing involved)... less need for prices to stay low (since if all 3 started raising prices, the consumer has no choice).
I cant articulate just how much I hate the idea of it.

This is the third or fourth time the rumors of this merger have popped up

z0phi3l said:
This is the third or fourth time the rumors of this merger have popped up
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Yeah I've been hearing these rumors for over a year now.
Don't take away the great plans or SIMs and maybe we'll be good.

Oh no, Sprint just likes to ruin my mobile life I remember a few years back when I got my first Nextel and discovered Howard Forums. I loved my Nextels and learned to make some good money selling customized Nextels & parting out the LE phones. Then the rumors came about the Sprint Nextel merger. They destroyed Nextel. I went back to TMobile and now this again! Capitalism at it's best.

Lets see, best customer satisfaction? T mobile
Best prices? T mobile
Acceptable service? T mobile
Family friendly plans? T mobile
Unlimited cheap data? T mobile
Open architecture? Gsm phones, unlocked phones compatibility?
T mobile
yet the company is suffering from losses.
What's wrong with people?
Why would anyone support verizon or at&t
If people supported tmobile, this would never happen
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metro pcs here i come lol

Most people are stuck on tmobile and the voicestream days. Tmobile has always gotten knocked for its service... But honestly ive been a customer since 2000 and have noticed the serice is now on par with verizon. Priblem is people arent smart, and most people stay with verizon because they have that "can u hear me now?" **** and also because they advertise like madmen.
isnt tmo owned by deutschtelecom also?
And also I dont see how a merger between 2 companies using 2 different cell technologies will be beneficial. Ifanything tmobile should juststick with offering the cheapest plans and best customer service and slowly but surely you will see people migrate over slower...
Tmobile really doesnt offer anything special anymore, nd customer service definantly went downhill from what it used to be.
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z0phi3l said:
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these rumors have been going around for years. it wouldn't really make sense, either. their networks are incompatible, and tmob has been spending a **** ton of money on their network.

Now i know why tmobile isn't bashing sprint in their commercials.
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jwleonhart said:
Most people are stuck on tmobile and the voicestream days. Tmobile has always gotten knocked for its service... But honestly ive been a customer since 2000 and have noticed the serice is now on par with verizon. Priblem is people arent smart, and most people stay with verizon because they have that "can u hear me now?" **** and also because they advertise like madmen.
isnt tmo owned by deutschtelecom also?
And also I dont see how a merger between 2 companies using 2 different cell technologies will be beneficial. Ifanything tmobile should juststick with offering the cheapest plans and best customer service and slowly but surely you will see people migrate over slower...
Tmobile really doesnt offer anything special anymore, nd customer service definantly went downhill from what it used to be.
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Good service is geographical. I live in LA and my service is very spotty. I worked for T-mobile for almost 4.5 years and my reception changed everytime I moved. Right now it is absolutely horrible but I stay on because I have a good price.
After reading a few articles about the potential merger I get the idea that they are not looking to integrate their systems but cut the operations cost that they are incurring, at least for the near short term. In reality it is not written anywhere that if two companies merge they must use one system or another. It would be a major game changer for both of these companies to merge and still use each carriers network (talk about flexibility). Regardless if they companies merge though prices will continue to go up. Data has become such a big commodity that people are willing to pay more for it regardless of who they have.
Cliffnotes: In my opinion they will only be merging operations for the first few years to cut costs, see which provider can retain the most amount of customers and go from there.

Is sprint even as big as tmobile is? Its sad that all these companies are trying to charge as much as possible for data...
And my biggest problem with tmobile is I pay an additional 20 bucks for my data service... And its supposedly unlimited.. But the minute I hit that 5gb cap I get slowed to literally dial up speed... Thanks tmobile!!! So the data really isnt unlimited, and I cant even purchase more bandwith
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jwleonhart said:
Is sprint even as big as tmobile is? Its sad that all these companies are trying to charge as much as possible for data...
And my biggest problem with tmobile is I pay an additional 20 bucks for my data service... And its supposedly unlimited.. But the minute I hit that 5gb cap I get slowed to literally dial up speed... Thanks tmobile!!! So the data really isnt unlimited, and I cant even purchase more bandwith
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Agreed, its tricky advertising regarding unlimited data. But that's the best you can get in USA . At least they don't charge for excess data past 5GB. No one offers unlimited data for that price. For example AT&T offers 2GB for $20 you are paying plus an additional $5, not to mention overage fees...

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Agreed, its tricky advertising regarding unlimited data. But that's the best you can get in USA . At least they don't charge for excess data past 5GB. No one offers unlimited data for that price. For example AT&T offers 2GB for $20 you are paying plus an additional $5, not to mention overage fees...
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And this is exactly why people dont join tmobile... Make the bandwidth unlimited for like 25 buxs... And then advertise that you really give unlimited compared to what att and verizon do...
If you want to suceed you have to stand out... And tmobile barely stands out, and I beieve sprints plans are the cheapest
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jwleonhart said:
And this is exactly why people dont join tmobile... Make the bandwidth unlimited for like 25 buxs... And then advertise that you really give unlimited compared to what att and verizon do...
If you want to suceed you have to stand out... And tmobile barely stands out, and I beieve sprints plans are the cheapest
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Actually it is unlimited. Speed is limited to 3/4-g until 5GB, then throttled, can't really complain for that. I'd take this over $500 or so extra per GB of ATT overage

FCC wants your feedback on Tmobile buyout by AT&T

Guys,
FCC is looking for the opinions from general people like us on the T-mobile-ATT deal. Checkout the links for more info :
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/make-your-voice-heard-tell-the-fcc-how-you-feel/
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/30/fcc-wants-your-input-on-the-t-mobile-buyout/
This is a great opportunity to fight the greedy At&t and stop the GSM monopoly in USA

Thanks for the heads up! Done.

I think its a bunch of bs. Its just them making us think we have a voice in this whole ordeal; in the end
this is big business and it all boils down to dollars. Just a masquerade.
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Awh I posted about this before you did lol I guess my title was bad
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duboi97 said:
Awh I posted about this before you did lol I guess my title was bad
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I think I posted 56 mins before you did
Let's hope this deal fails

I honestly dont care. I moved to tmobile to get away from the lies, trickery, and robbery. Turns out they are a company just like att with worse service.
I was made many promises before my contract, not one of them were true. Now I'm locked in my contract and they won't even try to make anything right even though all the proof given. They just say, "sorry there is nothing we can do for you, and we are not obligated to fulfill the promises the representatives gave you. We are truly sorry you were lied to."
I've heard that line 8 times from managers! I've given up, I'm finishing up my contract or canceling when the money becomes available and moving to verizon. At least ill have the services I pay for.
So far I've noticed that most companies dont care about right or wrong, only who gets the benefits. Sooner this is learned, the less hard life will be.
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Darksurf said:
I honestly dont care. I moved to tmobile to get away from the lies, trickery, and robbery. Turns out they are a company just like att with worse service.
I was made many promises before my contract, not one of them were true. Now I'm locked in my contract and they won't even try to make anything right even though all the proof given. They just say, "sorry there is nothing we can do for you, and we are not obligated to fulfill the promises the representatives gave you. We are truly sorry you were lied to."
I've heard that line 8 times from managers! I've given up, I'm finishing up my contract or canceling when the money becomes available and moving to verizon. At least ill have the services I pay for.
So far I've noticed that most companies dont care about right or wrong, only who gets the benefits. Sooner this is learned, the less hard life will be.
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Made me stop reading right there.

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Made me stop reading right there.
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AT&T may have bad customer service, but their coverage sure wrecks T-Mobile's.
I borrowed my friend's SIM a few weeks ago when I was going on a trip to Washington DC (from Dallas), and I wanted to have 3G where we went.
My mom's Vibrant, was constantly losing 3G signal.
My Vibrant, running on the 1900 band on AT&T, lost 3G signal ONCE for about 15 seconds, then came back.
Only thing with AT&T is, that their plans are expensive
(funny story, I went to a AT&T store to see how much a plan would be with them, and apparently, their texting plan offers unlimited Mobile to Mobile (who uses land lines except doctors, and offices?), and for 700 minutes, unlimited texting (with basically unlimited minutes), and 2GB data (never go over 1GB anyways, and I save $5!), I would pay $150 for 2 lines. That is $110 off what I pay now with T-Mo, and that's a DAMN good save)
and their customer service is bad.
They aren't that bad, and I am switching to AT&T because of that story.

Sprint using the Bait and Switch!! Read if you receive a plan discount!!

Well I got my bill for February and what do ya know another increase in my bill. I looked over it carefully and couldn't find where the extra $ was coming from. Of course I called the "best customer support company" to see what the deal was. I was informed that due to "no reason" my "shared" plan is now split in to 2 different lines. 1st- $110 2nd- $19.99. For the last year is was $129.99 (shared). I went round and round with 2 different reps attempting to get an explanation of why they split the lines when you can not have a shared plan with only 1 line ($79.99). They basically told me how sorry they were and to pay up or leave. So now not only am I paying an extra $20 a month (2 epics) for "4G" which my area does not have but extra $ because they changed the math equation. I am sick of getting nickel-ed and dime-ed from Sprint.
I also posted on there facebook and getting quite a bit of comments from other people who are mad about the change. I guess I could leave without paying the ETF......

Old news. They will let you out of your contract with no etf due to the change in the contract. Discounts are material and contractual, regardless of what a rep tells you. Ask for a supervisor or call account services about it. If you choose not to cancel, they will issue you a one time credit for one year worth of the difference. They credited me with 80 dollars to cove the 6.75 per month difference.
If you want the number I called, let me know. Ill have to walk all the way upstairs to get it.
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Thanks again

877-775-4886
no hold time. a real person answers.
this number has solved more problems for me than you could believe.
i even called them before i even set up my last 2 lines and told them the discount on new hardware wasnt enough to keep me and that if they would give me free phones on both new lines, i wouldnt be forced to switch to vzw. i went to the shack that day and got 2 evo3ds for 99.99 each and got a 200 dollar service credit from retentions on my next bill for adding 2 new lines.

uh, $129.99 = $110+$19.99.
the only thing that changed was how the discount was applied. Instead of it being applied to the whole 129.99, now it's only on the 110.
It increased my family bill a whole 4 dollars, or about a dollar per phone.
Still better than any other wireless carrier bill.

mynameistory said:
uh, $129.99 = $110+$19.99.
the only thing that changed was how the discount was applied. Instead of it being applied to the whole 129.99, now it's only on the 110.
It increased my family bill a whole 4 dollars, or about a dollar per phone.
Still better than any other wireless carrier bill.
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Yeah I know its only $6 but its the nickel and dime-ing aspect....$6 here $2 service charge increase there....on and on....More money for the SAME service!

Haven't looked at my Feb bill, but mine the shared plan covered the first two lines and each additional was 20 bucks. So now they split out the second line separately as well?

i just hate that they would rather issue a bunch of credits, or cancel contract than just grandfather these things in.
no one would ***** if they said "all new customers from here on out, and for those of you who already have this, it goes till the end of the contract".
i know people who would leave over sometnig like this, but if sprint changed it in at contract renewal time, the same people would be like, oh, oh well, still cheaper than verizon.
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Haven't looked at my Feb bill, but mine the shared plan covered the first two lines and each additional was 20 bucks. So now they split out the second line separately as well?
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correct. first line is billed at 110.00 and all additional lines including the second one is 19.99.

Wow. People are so whiny. It's still a hell of a lot cheaper than Verizon or AT&T and still unlimited data (which continues to increase usage on their network constantly, thanks to rooted users tethering constantly and not paying an extra dime for it, and rooted users constantly bricking their phones and having to get replacements that Sprint can't prove was user caused, which they have to pay for, and still try to keep unlimited data, and still try to cover cost of upgrading their network, and upgrading phone OS's cause people are whiny, and launch new LTE since Wimax wasn't good enough, and a plephora of other things). So they raised your bill in an attempt to cover costs AND keep their service unlimited AND offered you the choice to cancel with no fee. Stfu, seriously.
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Vizzo said:
Wow. People are so whiny. It's still a hell of a lot cheaper than Verizon or AT&T and still unlimited data (which continues to increase usage on their network constantly, thanks to rooted users tethering constantly and not paying an extra dime for it, and rooted users constantly bricking their phones and having to get replacements that Sprint can't prove was user caused, which they have to pay for, and still try to keep unlimited data, and still try to cover cost of upgrading their network, and upgrading phone OS's cause people are whiny, and launch new LTE since Wimax wasn't good enough, and a plephora of other things). So they raised your bill in an attempt to cover costs AND keep their service unlimited AND offered you the choice to cancel with no fee. Stfu, seriously.
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Thanks for your useless input....troll

jeremyglass said:
Thanks for your useless input....troll
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I don't think it was right but his thoughts are valid
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jeremyglass said:
Thanks for your useless input....troll
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While his delivery may have been blunt, he's absolutely right. I was glad when they made that svc fee change a few months ago - it gave me the ability to cancel my contract and go to another provider that has respectable data speeds and actually has coverage in my house and place of business. If you don't like the new fee schedule, take them up on their cancellation offer and move on.
I also see your point, it sucks to be nickled and dimed to death, but all the carriers do it. Sprint is still the cheapest nationwide carrier in most scenarios.

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Thanks for your useless input....troll
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His input was useful to me..

Maybe I wasn't all sweet and cuddly about it, but providing valid info isn't trolling. If anything "your" trolling Sprint. It's ridiculous to think it's Sprint's responsibility to absorb all cost of what they "try" to do for their customers, and additionally absorb all cost of customers who rip them off on a daily basis. They are doing their best and being reasonably fair about it.
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I get frustrated with the incremental increases as well. But then I just compare my bill to ATT and VZW, and I'm a long way from those types of prices. I've had my FS1500 plan with 4 smartphones for a long time. When you add in all the stuff that's included at no extra charge from Sprint, I'm still saving over $1500 a year.
Frustrated: yes. Leaving: not on your life.
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Once upon a time the discount applied to the whole bill. Then it didn't apply to the phone ins. Then it only applied to first two lines. Now it applies to only 1 line. Then they put in the phoney 4g charge. Then it turned into a smartphone charge not just 4g. (Most all phones are smartphones according to sprint). All the while the service has degraded substantialy along with the customer service. Sorry..mini rant
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Last I checked, Sprint discounts only applied to items over a certain price limit. It's around $40-$50. It's been that way throughout the life of my contract. If you got discounts on your extra lines, which are indeed addon charges, you're lucky.

Andsamp is right. My corporate discount used to apply to the whole bill, now just to the primary. However, I've been on Sprint for 13 years, and have been on many different plans. The application of the discounts has changed with the plans, and over time.
I also would not be surprised if the application of the discount was different depending what company it was for. They generally work the same, but there may be some differences.
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Vizzo said:
Wow. People are so whiny.
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Lol look who's talking.
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Ok sooo its $6-10 more a month.... Yea it adds up. But eat 1 less fast food meal a month and bam a extra $6-10.
I got that letter in the mail with my bill a while back. Couldn't help but laugh. It's corporate america screwing people over as usual.
Order of financial life: Work> get $$$> spend $$$. Repeat.
If your trying to live beyond your financial means then it's your fault. Suck it up or move on.
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Breaking contract with Att

After waiting for the one x for months, I am disgusted with what they delivered. Tons of issues out of the box, no unlocked bootloader, no sd card, and miserable multitasking. Sprint is getting the s4 lte one x with bootloader unlock, and ad card. Verizon is getting it also with possibly a s5 cpu.
Any recommendations on sprint vs Verizon as far as service quality and price for the ny metro/long island area?
I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties. The customers get to foot the bill for his incompetence, and he gets rewarded 22 million for costing us 4billion+? Ponderous. Enough is enough already with this garbage. And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment! Screw Att, I am done with those thieves.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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c5satellite2 said:
After waiting for the one x for months, I am disgusted with what they delivered. Tons of issues out of the box, no unlocked bootloader, no sd card, and miserable multitasking. Sprint is getting the s4 lte one x with bootloader unlock, and ad card. Verizon is getting it also with possibly a s5 cpu.
Any recommendations on sprint vs Verizon as far as service quality and price for the ny metro/long island area?
I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties. The customers get to foot the bill for his incompetence, and he gets rewarded 22 million for costing us 4billion+? Ponderous. Enough is enough already with this garbage. And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment! Screw Att, I am done with those thieves.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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You can go to sprints website and view a map of their coverage. Same for verizon. However it should go without saying that the coverage should be next to perfect since not only are you in a very busy but city but also a well known area. I live in Atlanta, GA and Sprint 4G is golden over here. There are small pocket areas where coverage drops. And some where it drops for sprint too. As for local deals and plans you will have to check that in your area. It varies. I did break my contract with ATT though and switched to sprint. I had a hefty ETF to pay but it was worth it. Unlimited data, text, and tethering is worth it. I also like Sprint's tight google voice integration. I was using it on ATT and it was really limited but it's much more integrated on sprint.
So for me it was worth it. Love my Epic Touch 4G. To give ATT a little bit of credit they do seem to be snatching up some in demand android phones. I had no idea that ATT's version of the HTCOneX was that different either. This whole "lets change the internals of the phone for every carrier" is really annoying. The Epic Touch 4G looks different from the galaxy s2 skyrocket. And I think the global version is different too. The only downside about sprint's epic touch 4G is no NFC
But GS3 is coming soon. Hope this helped.

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I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties.
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This type of thing happens at all telecom companies. Enjoy having no LTE over at Sprint.
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And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment!
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It happens all the time. In a year at&t will get the sweet device and Sprint users will be sad. I haven't noticed any major trends in who gets what equipment amongst the major carriers... and Sprint. Well besides the iphone. Would I change if I really wanted a device at another company? Maybe. I have an unlimited data contract and a corporate discount though so I can't really see anyone giving me a better deal.

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This type of thing happens at all telecom companies. Enjoy having no LTE over at Sprint.
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AT&T LTE is kinda laughable though. I wish they left HSPA+ alone in the One X and gave me a quad-core instead.

Verizon in coverage and LTE. Sprint with prices and unlimited data.
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KayxGee1 said:
Verizon in coverage and LTE. Sprint with prices and unlimited data.
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This.
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T-Mobile is where it's at! I have their value plan and pay $70 a month after taxes for unlimited everything and 2 GB of 4G. Can't beat that.

Not sure where you're getting your info, OP, but Verizon's CEO just put out a press release stating that VZ will not be getting any new HTC phones in the short term, namely the HTC One series.

It depends on what your needs are. Do you use your data alot? Do you need the fast LTE speeds? Do you need a lot of minutes? Obviously phone choice is a huge deciding factor. All those questions could help us help you.

I have unlimited(limited) data and need 5gb+, need 900 minutes, would love lte(not a dealbreaker), 500+ text messages, free mobile to mobile calling, and be less than what I'm paying now, about $97.
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And Verizon is going to get a "one x" phone, it just won't be marketed as that. Look for a HTC phone similar in specs to LTE one x, but with a newer version CPU called S4 PRO(with new 320 gpu). Removable battery, sd card slot, 4.7" or bigger display.
Not confirmed of course, just adds up from various info and comments that have been made by qcomm, Verizon, and HTC. The biggest being they are due to release the replacement for the rezound in Q3. Everyone is bringing the 4.7"+slcd2 screen with qcomm s4 lte to market because it is a great combo, I don't think Big Red will miss out on the fun.
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c5satellite2 said:
I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties. The customers get to foot the bill for his incompetence, and he gets rewarded 22 million for costing us 4billion+? Ponderous. Enough is enough already with this garbage. And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment! Screw Att, I am done with those thieves.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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First of all, you can thank your new BFF "Sprint" for having a hand in that.
Asides from having really huge balls, I can't see how a failed merger undermines his abilities as a CEO? How do you think mergers work?
And unless you sir, own a significant amount of shares in AT&T, I don't understand how any of that $4 billion is even remotely 'yours'. Everything the company charges you are in exchange for their services, not stocks.
Lastly, could you provide me with an example where it shows the penalty fee being relayed onto the customer?
Thanks!

if you just want a lower monthly bill, I would try calling customer service, follow the prompts until you hear the one for cancel you account press 5, etc., it will direct you to the correct person, then say you're thinking about canceling because its too expensive, they will probably offer you some disscounts. last time I did it, they gave me $20 off credit for 6 months, free messaging 6 months, and a one time $40 credit I think.
worth a shot.
Ive been with them 6 years, I like GSM for the fact I can buy and use international devices, I dont like how they put non LTE unlmited plans on 3GB.
Every 1 of the big 4 has its pros and cons.

Agree about the gsm benefits.
And where dou think the 4 billion is coming from? Us. And we will pay twice, the 4bil+ in fines, and another 4bil+ to build the network he failed to acquire. I have a big problem with the "liar" receiving 22mil for failing. A better reward would have been a pink slip like everyone else would have received. Look up Randall Stephensons comments, he flat out lies, and had no clue how anything actually works. Just another entitled wall street moron ruining a great company in order to line their pockets via wall street. This is exactly why America is failing. Provide the lowest quality as long as it means higher stock prices. And even well performing stocks don't keep up with inflation, resulting in stealing from customers, as well as the shareholders. Do the research and WAKE UP ALREADY. STOP ALLOWING YOURSELF TO BE CONNED BY WALL STREET AND THE ENTITLED ULTRA RICH!
Any one here get a 22million bonus after costing your company 4+bil? No, you would have been fired!
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c5satellite2 said:
Agree about the gsm benefits.
And where dou think the 4 billion is coming from? Us. And we will pay twice, the 4bil+ in fines, and another 4bil+ to build the network he failed to acquire. I have a big problem with the "liar" receiving 22mil for failing. A better reward would have been a pink slip like everyone else would have received. Look up Randall Stephensons comments, he flat out lies, and had no clue how anything actually works. Just another entitled wall street moron ruining a great company in order to line their pockets via wall street. This is exactly why America is failing. Provide the lowest quality as long as it means higher stock prices. And even well performing stocks don't keep up with inflation, resulting in stealing from customers, as well as the shareholders. Do the research and WAKE UP ALREADY. STOP ALLOWING YOURSELF TO BE CONNED BY WALL STREET AND THE ENTITLED ULTRA RICH!
Any one here get a 22million bonus after costing your company 4+bil? No, you would have been fired!
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Oh god, are you one of those antiwallstreet idiots 99 percenters camping?
I won't even bother arguing the logistics with you and pointing out your failed logic on the nature of economics. Have a good day.
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Guesss you are a Wall Street(rigged casino) idiot. I can't stand occupy, it is a scam funded by certain political groups to pass more regulations.
The market doesn't keep up with inflation. Good luck giving your money to the rich. Effing economists.
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Contrary to popular beliefs,
Economists are more likely to be liberals.
But your statements are hollow and illogical. Even a bleeding heart would disagree with what you're stating.
By your logic, you're stating company revenue=customer investment.
You paid for a service, NOT for investment shares. Your service charges do not accrue to company shares. Once that money is paid and becomes company profit/revenue they can do whatever the hell they wanna do with it and no legal obligation binds them to spend it in your best interest. The loss is the company's loss, not your loss.
I don't understand how market parity and inflation has anything to do with this.
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God I hate liberals and their phony agenda. They claim to be liberal, want a million rules and regs, and tell you what to do. The only thing they are libral with is other peoples money. Anyone need more social assistance programs?
Don't like either Republicans or Democrats, they are all liars.
How about following the constitution and logic? Political parties only divide us as Americans and prevent anything from getting done.
Rep and Dem both laugh at us together all the way to the bank. Any more ultra rich need a billion dollar "bailout"?
We pay for all this crap. Period. We the people, not we the minority ultra rich!
Defend these morons all you want. Try looking past the curtain, there is more to it than what they let you see. You are being fleeced every day. Stand up for yourself, stop accepting what they "give" you. Earn what is yours, and don't let them steal it. I work 3 jobs. I work hard. I don't ask for handouts. Corporate America takes what they want, from who they want, and when they want. They run companies into the ground only to receive bonuses and bailouts. Enough is enough. I stand up for myself. You will not stand in my way.
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This has to be the funniest thread I've read in a while, and I've been a lurker on this site since 2009, but ultimately you're going to be footing the bill for your foot out the door. Either way, by your logic, you're going to be losing money. Unless you can convince a friendly CS Rep to cancel your contract without the ETF. Here's a hint: I wouldn't rattle on about the reasons you're leaving and instead make up a blatent lie. Also, put on your super nice voice.... if you have one.

Sprint, NO
its horrible. So-Called 4g

Great News for T-Mobile Users!!!

http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/uncarrier-8.htm
this should shake up the industry, big time!!!

Too bad it won't work for tethering on my 4G unlimited plan.

EVERYONE who is currently on a 3 gig phone data plan, or a one gig tablet data plan,gets 10 gigs of data free now, to start with....

wase4711 said:
EVERYONE gets 10 gigs of data free now, to start with....WOW!!!
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Not everyone.
Read the fine print...
Data Stash is included at no extra charge for every single new and existing T-Mobile customer – individual, family or business – on an eligible postpaid Simple Choice plan who buys extra high-speed data for their smartphone or tablet.
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Starting in January 2015, Data Stash will be automatically available at no extra charge to every T-Mobile customer – every individual, family and business – with a postpaid Simple Choice plan who has purchased additional 4G LTE data, 3GB or more for smartphones and 1 GB or more for tablets. And, you’ll start out with a Free Data Stash with up to 10 GB of 4G LTE data.
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rjohnstone said:
Not everyone.
Read the fine print...
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Prepaid customers get treated like second class citizens. When I went to go buy my note I was told it cost $769 with tax. I was like don't it retail for $749? They said that's post paid. Whatever. I asked if there were any promotional discount or rebates. The said there's a $50 rebate on accessories. So I asked if I bought a $40 case, I'd get $10 off my phone? Nope. Postpaid only.

Airtioteclint said:
Prepaid customers get treated like second class citizens. When I went to go buy my note I was told it cost $769 with tax. I was like don't it retail for $749? They said that's post paid. Whatever. I asked if there were any promotional discount or rebates. The said there's a $50 rebate on accessories. So I asked if I bought a $40 case, I'd get $10 off my phone? Nope. Postpaid only.
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you know what, send a tweet to john legere, and let him know how you feel about that...these guys are changing so many of the BS things in the wireless industry, that they might consider that too..

wase4711 said:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/uncarrier-8.htm
this should shake up the industry, big time!!!
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Unlimited data here but this is a great thing can only help people on Att sprint and veriz0n

He also did address the new wideband spectrum
Low and behold I finally got band 12 today. Let me tell you I was only getting 5mbp down. Now I'm getting 25 down in my bedroom. I live in Fort Lauderdale.

5 down is 2x what I'm getting. Alleged LTE. Bah! No, I don't live on a farm. I am in San Antonio, TX, a city of over 1.4 million people, and I still get data speeds that are so last century.

Glad I'm still on the unlimited data plan(Granfatherd)

Erazo1986 said:
Glad I'm still on the unlimited data plan(Granfatherd)
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You know they have new plan that just came out. 2 linen completely unlimited for $100. I use to be on the old grandfathered in plan but now I'm saving 20 bucks.

Think they just bumped the speeds here in Springfield Ohio was getting 5 down 2 up now I'm getting 12-15 down 5 up constant

Prepaid customers get treated like second class citizens because prepaid plans aren't where the revenue is generated. If prepaid guys aren't ready to commit to the company, the company can't be committed to them. I'm on the $30 plan, I know this update doesn't affect me, I know this sucks, but it makes business sense.
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You know they have new plan that just came out. 2 linen completely unlimited for $100. I use to be on the old grandfathered in plan but now I'm saving 20 bucks.
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Be wary of any new plans that come out, on any carrier. Newer doesn't always mean better. In fact, most of the time, it means quiet the opposite.
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CheesyNutz said:
Think they just bumped the speeds here in Springfield Ohio was getting 5 down 2 up now I'm getting 12-15 down 5 up constant
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700 mhz wideband has kicked in all over. Here in Fort Lauderdale too.

I'm assuming tether data doesn't "stash" ... That sucks for unlimited users.

PhoneG3ek said:
I'm assuming tether data doesn't "stash" ... That sucks for unlimited users.
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***** ***** ***** ...

wase4711 said:
you know what, send a tweet to john legere, and let him know how you feel about that...these guys are changing so many of the BS things in the wireless industry, that they might consider that too..
and, BTW, I just confirmed that most post paid plans, including the 4 lines for 100 bucks DO qualify for the "data stash"/10 gigs per line, per month plan!
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This is great to hear. Your saying even though I've never bought extra data like the fine print says, I'm still going to get the stash and 10gb of data?
And how exactly did you confirm this?
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Trev420 said:
This is great to hear. Your saying even though I've never bought extra data like the fine print says, I'm still going to get the stash and 10gb of data?
And how exactly did you confirm this?
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I called them 2 different times and both reps said the same thing..

Color me skeptical. The TMO website clearly states that you must have postpaid for at least 3 Gb of data to be eligible.