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When I purchased my tab 10.1, I was absolutely sure I made the right choice, after reading reviews about all the major tablets in the market. Now, after three months, I am not so sure. The disappointment is largely because of the failure of giants like Google and android tablet manufacturers to not being able to provide an "awesome" experience, even after more than one and a half years of being in the market. This frustration is one of those times when you really want to like something, but you just feel constantly, it could be much much better.
Minor software like a responsive keyboard shouldn't be that far-fethched for android. While typing this post on my tab, it seems like I am typing on a device/software that is not even an alpha release, even after so many years since android launched. And of course, I compare it to the iPad's keyboard, although I would never buy an Apple product - I like android for a reason (freedom).
I had thought I would always be able to take notes in meetings on the tab, but I have come to a very disappointing realization that the tab is just not made for note taking - not even close. I bought the Adonit Jot Pro thinking it is the best stylus in the market and would help greatly with note taking. When I started using the stylus, it was clear to me there is nothing out there that can accomplish the functionalty of note taking on the tab - Jot Pro clearly failed, but it's not the stylus's issue. Just why can't the tab, although it has a better hardware than the iPad, not allow decent note taking functionality?
I started considering the Thinkpad tablet as it touts a note-taking functionality and the screen is especially made for that, but after reading and watching reviews for that product, it seems Lenovo has a lot of catching up to do. The Thinkpad is sluggish, doesn't record notes as its windows tablet counterpart does in terms of speed and accuracy. After getting excited about an android tablet - the Thinkpad - that would allow note taking, I am back to square one after reading its reviews. I am not going to buy it.
The developers here do an amazing job to make our tabs better, but why is the android OS still subpar compared go the iOS? It can't be just that it has to cater to multiple hardware options and manufacturers, or that is is newer than the iOS. I don't think my expectations are unrealistic.
As the keyboard is giving me such grief, I will cut this post short and come back to the request/point. Does anyone know of an app that does something simple and basic like palm-rejection and follows the writing on the tab closely, without any lag? I have used writepad, free note, genial, super note, and others, which were supposed to be good for the tab, but alas, nothing accomplishes not taking. I am aware the polling on the screen for the tab is lagged compared to that for the iPad (and just Why?!), but am sure something could be done about it.
Please don't suggest buying another tablet, especially the iPad, or that I should develop an app for myself. Any sensible reader (hope SamsungJohn is still around, and someone from Andy Rubin's team reads this post) would know what the point of this post is. Thanks.
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just use touchscreentune from development thread. Problem solved
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just use touchscreentune from development thread. Problem solved
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Did you miss the part about palm rejection? Touchscreen Tune can't resolve that problem, as far as I can tell.
It also won't help with the lag associated with note apps that he was referring to.
I'm actually quite interested in a solution as well, as I would love to take this to my dev meetings when I don't want to lug around my laptop.
I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I would have liked to take notes with the G-Tab too but nothing I've found makes it ideal. There's an Asus note app in the dev section that helps a lot. For some reason it seems to accept responses better. It's what I used for short notes and phone numbers. For meeting notes, not so much.
ICS supports hand writing recognition natively. Hopefully there's not a h/w component required and that ends up being the long term solution for the Tab.
I wish there were an addon like the iPad's iPen for the Galaxy Tabs, it's an active digitizer:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1225098940/ipen-the-first-active-stylus-for-ipad
1) Handwriting
I don't know why there isn't an app for the tab that supports palm rejection. From a dev point of view, I assume the problem lies therein that it isn't possible to block other touchevents, so you cannot "ignore" parts of the screen. This may easily be a hardware related issue, that further touchpoints are ignored when your hand rests on the screen.
2) "Minor software like a responsive keyboard shouldn't be that far-fethched for android."
Have you tried a ROM like Galaxy Tab? The keyboard (stock) is much better than the touchwiz one.
3) Notetaking
TouchScreenTune, if you haven't tried it yet. Check out the dev section. No, doesn't help with palm rejection BUT, makes the notetaking for me possible.
Added palm rejection to TouchScreenTune Test version in development thread:
PALM REJECTION:
added slider allowing to turn on palm rejection. That means that you hand can rest on screen while writing using stylus, but you will still be able to write since touch events from your palm will be ignored. Set palm detection slider value to 0 or maybe a bit more like 1-10 to enable this functionality.
there are some reports that the galaxy note pen works on the galaxy tab , it has thin tip and should be accurate in writing notes with supported applications
i dont use stylus but i use finger to write notes. i use ausus super note app and i feel comfortable compared to other notes app. you can try touchscreen tune if you havent tried it.
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i dont use stylus but i use finger to write notes. i use ausus super note app and i feel comfortable compared to other notes app. you can try touchscreen tune if you havent tried it.
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The latest touchscreen tune with palm rejection (from the thread in the dev section) works well with asus supernote.
you can try these...
try the onscreen keyboard apps like thumb keyboard or swiftkey tablet x .
Both are really very good.
Thumb keyboard with multitouch option is really very helpfull.
Everyone knows about the predictive powers of swiftkey.
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Did you miss the part about palm rejection? Touchscreen Tune can't resolve that problem, as far as I can tell.
It also won't help with the lag associated with note apps that he was referring to.
I'm actually quite interested in a solution as well, as I would love to take this to my dev meetings when I don't want to lug around my laptop.
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Check the multi touch bottom it help when my palm touched the screen it stopped it from reading my palm touch
The reason for the choppiness is that androids UI and keyboard ius not hardware accelerated like apple's. Android also runs it as oje process, while apple tries to split it up to accommodate doing smaller things (so only one thing lags rather than whole ui).
I hope this is fixed more in ICS, but i have noticed that too. You cna put a custom rom on the tablet to make it a lot faster (stock rom is pretty buggy).
To be honest I'd recommend getting a bluetooth keyboard. I have one that's part of a case and it works perfectly. Aside from that I think you just need to use an app that suits you, I don't mind Polaris to be honest, but I find for speed typing I DO need the keyboard.
Huh? I'm on 3.1 and the standard Android keyboard (not the Samsung one that's on by default) works great. Very responsive, zero lag.
I have the tab 8.9 and there is no touchscreen app so a little worse off than the 10.1.
I use the app freenotes to take notes along with a pogo sketch stylus. THis makes the tab great for notetaking for me- very flexible and very easy to take clear notes in real time. Will also try the Asus supernote app soon.
I just wish it had the PDF and other document import export that apps like notability have on iOS- would make it perfect
i have motorola xoom, ipad 1, and now SGT,and i personally think that people who want to use their tablet to take note , they can do that. But to have a tablet+ stylus that they can comfortably write as they do with their notebook+pen is a different story.
I found Quill. It's quite good. It seems to be open source because it's available in Google Code and you can download the APK: http://code.google.com/p/android-quill/downloads/list
It have an option for disabling the bottom of the screen for resting your palm, though with TouchScreenTune you don't need it...
However, it's choppy in the GT10.1 unless you are rooted and install TouchScreenTune (which, by the way, was recently updated and now really works! Thanks dev!)
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I tried almost everything, and the best ones at the moment, are TabNotes, Writepad for stylus, and Handrite and Genial writing for handwriting.
Everything else is either laggy or choppy or just doesn't work well. At least imo. Quill and Freenote don't even compare with the two first above in responsiveness.
Of course you need touchscreentune, the recommended settings work fine. Palm rejection works quite well too, with the new version. (thanks again Vitalijus).
I tested all this on a UK tab version hc 3.2 (XXKL2).
I haven't tried Writepad because for some reason cannot buy apps from my tab... But Quill fill my needs.
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I really like what the S Pen brings to the phone.
And I think it has a lot of potential.
Do you think any new actions could be added, such as a triple tap or gestures (while holding the button down)?
For example, holding the button down and drawing a music note anywhere could launch the music app.
Or holding it down and saying the app you want to open.
Isn't the s-pen supposed to be smart? If so, I think the ability to just pick up the pen and start drawing gestures/pics/etc anywhere(w/o holding the spen down) would be cool. Also, when you start to draw with the spen, it would either detect a gesture, a new drawing, or use a gesture already programmed to open an app and give you a convienent list of options on the bottom of the screen w/o being in the way of what you're trying to do. Just my 2 cents
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does it only work on the note or would it work on other samsung phones such as galaxy s2?
Nope, since the pen isn't a capacative stylus.
swipe up opens the menu, but I would like a swipe down to open the notification bar (sooo faaaar awaaayyyy!). Maybe a swipe right to be anything you want.
Overall it should be possible to configure these four (up/down/left/right) do do what you want, in any case.
The pen works on my nintendo 3ds lol.
Thats because the 3ds has a resistive touch screen.
I sure hope it will eventually be possible to configure actions for the pen gestures with some roms...
Samsung has a pen API kit, so hopefully we will see both big publishers (Adobe) adding pen functionality to big apps as well as small app devs putting out specialty and one trick pony apps. If you search my posts, I put together a summary of the tech behind the spen that Wacom built.
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Samsung has a pen API kit, so hopefully we will see both big publishers (Adobe) adding pen functionality to big apps as well as small app devs putting out specialty and one trick pony apps. If you search my posts, I put together a summary of the tech behind the spen that Wacom built.
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S-pen API can be masked behind the official ICS API for pens.
If you load the ICS leak ROM for Note and install Photoshop Touch, it supports pressure sensitivity and pen hover over screen.
All without using Samsungs API
We can expect many better apps when ICS drawing/note taking applications start to appear.
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If you load the ICS leak ROM for Note and install Photoshop Touch, it supports pressure sensitivity and pen hover over screen.
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Cool! Having a cursor to locate where a drawing line actually starts would be very nice. Much better than "try.. undo.. try.. undo.. try.. undo.. ..."
Is there any other evidence of the Pen hover ability of the S pen? Your post is the only evidence of such a feature so far.
I was thinking that pen hover with the S pen should be possible if the wacom digitizer is the same as on a tablet pc.
Pen hover would be useful for Tooltips, showing the URL when hovering above a link, some flash games rely on the mouse hover...
But even if the S pen have such a feature I suspect only a few apps will support it, unless ICS has some built-in functionality like Tooltips...
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S-pen API can be masked behind the official ICS API for pens.
If you load the ICS leak ROM for Note and install Photoshop Touch, it supports pressure sensitivity and pen hover over screen.
All without using Samsungs API
We can expect many better apps when ICS drawing/note taking applications start to appear.
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Is there any other evidence of the Pen hover ability of the S pen? Your post is the only evidence of such a feature so far.
I was thinking that pen hover with the S pen should be possible if the wacom digitizer is the same as on a tablet pc.
Pen hover would be useful for Tooltips, showing the URL when hovering above a link, some flash games rely on the mouse hover...
But even if the S pen have such a feature I suspect only a few apps will support it, unless ICS has some built-in functionality like Tooltips...
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I saw it also in the ICS Rom leak threads. Forgot to try it before I flashed back to RocketROM but multiple ppl confirmed it is legit. Someone said it as registering like 5mm off the screen.
I doubt there will be any new S pen development under GB. Much of the development time would be wasted since ICS has much more to offer in wacom support.
S-Pen hover ability tested
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Is there any other evidence of the Pen hover ability of the S pen? Your post is the only evidence of such a feature so far.
I was thinking that pen hover with the S pen should be possible if the wacom digitizer is the same as on a tablet pc.
Pen hover would be useful for Tooltips, showing the URL when hovering above a link, some flash games rely on the mouse hover...
But even if the S pen have such a feature I suspect only a few apps will support it, unless ICS has some built-in functionality like Tooltips...
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I can confirm that Photoshop Touch supports S-Pen hover ability. Have instaled it on my Note with chinese leaked ICS. So so so mutch easier to work when you see where you will lend your touch. S-Pen is detected eaven in about 7mm of distance Photoshop can FC sometimes but it maybe becaose of leaked rom not being stable... it has almost all functionalities of regular Photoshop, just wonderful app!
Now tried stylus pressure, it can control size or opacity, it seams that there are "just" 3 levels of pressure...
Before the note I had the Nokia n900, which had a resistive screen. To zoom in you could just draw circles clockwise or anti-clockwise to zoom out. Would be nice to be able to do that on the note with the s-pen also.
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Before the note I had the Nokia n900, which had a resistive screen. To zoom in you could just draw circles clockwise or anti-clockwise to zoom out. Would be nice to be able to do that on the note with the s-pen also.
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But you can just double tap to zoom-unzoom ._.
I also hope more and configurable gestures will be integrated by Samsung....
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Before the note I had the Nokia n900, which had a resistive screen. To zoom in you could just draw circles clockwise or anti-clockwise to zoom out. Would be nice to be able to do that on the note with the s-pen also.
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While there's much about Nokia's microB browser that other makers could learn from, the screw-in gesture isn't something I moss much. Two-finger multitouch is easier and simpler I feel.
Really, really looking forward to having a hovering mouse pointer on the Note. I mean, this is probably the greatest advantage of the Wacom digitizer technology, not availing of it is such a waste! Being able to see where your line will begin is an enormous help for drawing. I draw on tablet PC using the same technology, and this is what I miss most of all.
Does anyone know if there's a way to get the pointer in Gingerbread?
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I can confirm that Photoshop Touch supports S-Pen hover ability. Have instaled it on my Note with chinese leaked ICS. So so so mutch easier to work when you see where you will lend your touch. S-Pen is detected eaven in about 7mm of distance Photoshop can FC sometimes but it maybe becaose of leaked rom not being stable... it has almost all functionalities of regular Photoshop, just wonderful app!
Now tried stylus pressure, it can control size or opacity, it seams that there are "just" 3 levels of pressure...
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I'm on Stunner 1.4.19 which is AOPK based and I can confirm pen hover and pressure sensitivity in Photoshop as well so no Samsung framework required, just ICS. I get a force close when using pressure sensitivity though after a few strokes.
Hi guys.
First time note user. Coming from galaxy s2 and s3.
Love the note 2. Simply the best smartphone ever made and so glad I went for it even after recently uograding to s3 which I will now sell.
Anyway...I feel like I should use the pen more. So want to see how others are using it? I have looked at s-note but not sure how I would use that. So if you have examples of how you would use that. That woule be good. Any other apps I can download to get good use?
I find it quicker to type with my fingers. Is this the same for everyone?
Look forward to your comments.
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The only app i use the pen for is photo art
Its a nice feature but its not obligatory to use it imho
Only once i needed to note something fast and i used it.
but i know its there if i need it.
I had s1 , s2 and s3 too , and i am addicted to swype so i can't type with anything else.
I use it to learn to write japanese character on ankidroid.
I think that the Galaxy note 2 is just the best device to learn a foreign language on the go.
Signing contracts and documents. Instead of printing and scanning/faxing it back to them. I just sign it with my s pen and email it back to them.
Emailing photos and marking it up with the s pen is so much more personal and exact when you need to highlight or point something out in the photo.
Writing down a phone number or a quick note
I don't use it daily but it sure is very helpful and flexible when I do use it.
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I use it to take notes, use it for the multi window feature, also a lot on the web especially when they are small links to click, the s pen gives you more precision and where they are sub menus instead of using your fingers the s pen helps a lot. Take screenshots alao
I put mine in a straw and blow it out, it makes for a surprisingly good projectile to shoot at the wife
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using s note feature "formula match" really helpfull for me (student).
I mainly use s pen for quick jotting of no.
And also to screen capture and edit
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I like the ability to be able to cut a segment of the screen onto the clipboard easily. I have started hand writing a lot of texts too
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using s note feature "formula match" really helpfull for me (student).
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Wasn't this an episode of Big Bang Theory???
EdgaBimbam said:
using s note feature "formula match" really helpfull for me (student).
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i don't have mine yet, but when i look at the review video's i think myscript calculator works better for this than s note does.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.calculator
Haven't found any S pen optmized apps other than stock, so the main use of Spen for me is to show off When I was putting a photo note yesterday, people were saying WOW
I've never taken the pen out of the phone and have no plans to do so lol.
Read you manual when you get the phone, it is worth it. The S-Pen is realy deep inbedded in the software mate, try quick commands for instancewhere you can open any app just by a s-pen shortcut command. It is realy great
I use the S-Pen for Games like SEGA Virtua Tennis, to Paint, Notes,Web and to make screenshots.
Whenever I'm on web, it works like a mice, so gotta have it in hand. Yahoo, espnstar a lot of websites have it optimized well.
In fact, it's always outside holster for me, whether on my hand or not.
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daz_2000 said:
Hi guys.
First time note user. Coming from galaxy s2 and s3.
Love the note 2. Simply the best smartphone ever made and so glad I went for it even after recently uograding to s3 which I will now sell.
Anyway...I feel like I should use the pen more. So want to see how others are using it? I have looked at s-note but not sure how I would use that. So if you have examples of how you would use that. That woule be good. Any other apps I can download to get good use?
I find it quicker to type with my fingers. Is this the same for everyone?
Look forward to your comments.
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I will use my S-pen of Note1 to clip some pictures and draw something~
It is good pen and function!!
Does it work with draw something? i really love that game and dont want to buy another stylus just to play it.
If you enable the pop up s-note, then it s-pen works just like pen and paper, kinda.
Pull out the s-pen (s-note pops up automatically). scribble whatever (reminder, phone number, address/etc), then just stick the pen right back in. The contents are saved automatically.
I've used it a few times to annotate pictures. circling stuff and writing 'park here', or 'click here', etc.
It's super useful for that, rather than sending a screen shot and saying 'hit the click the option about 2/3s way down'
- Frank
A trait of Galaxy Note line-up
I use it to show iPhone users what a Galaxy Note series device can do
I have my Note 10.1 for around 6 months now, i use it daily and i'm happy with it regarding smoothness and performance but i can't find use for it's specific features. I use it like i would any other android tablet.
Some of the specific features i'm talking about which i don't use:
Spen: it looks interesting as concept but it doesn't feel pratical to use. it's much more intuitive to use your finger instead of going for the pen.
The pen feels like an unnecessary extension of your finger.
I tried drawing but it was a disappointing experience, it doesn't track fast enough like you would on normal paper, it's much too slow, i have to draw in slow motion or it won't keep up.
Maybe it is useful for some handwritten notes but due to the drawing lag and the fact that the keyboard prediction is quite good i end up preferring to just use the keyboard.
multiwindow (or apps in hovering windows): it looks powerful and interesting but i've yet to find a use for it. I use several windows in a PC usually but it doesn't feel pratical to do it in a tablet, the screen size/resolution isn't big enough, you get 2 small windows and end up not enjoying properly either app.
Please help me make better use of my note, i'm happy with it but i feel i'm waisting some potential uses.
Hi,
I use the spen every day to take notes in meetings or at my desk. the snote application is for me unusable but with the right app (in my case Lecturenotes) it replaced completely my paper notebook in the job. Together with syncing the notes to Evernote or own server or sending handwritten notes with drawings per mail directly to collegues it fit's all my needs.
As mentioned, I don't see any lagging using the pen. and true, using the pen only to control the device does not make sense at all.
Rgds
Sven
I bought the Note 10.1 primarily for notes, reading, work and browsing and I'm happy all round
I use the S Pen all the time and was one of the reasons I bought a Note and not a Nexus for example. Is your S Pen calibrated well? Mine has no problems with lag and can keep up with my writing with no problems at all. Maybe use a different tip?
I also use multiwindow which is nice for taking notes and browsing at the same time for example. Or watching a movie while working (if there's no boss around lol).
I got because I needed a 10" tablet for my whip and the note 10.1 had multi window.. I use this tablet as my main device.. I use cm10.2 because it seems a bit faster than stock and I came to the conclusion that multi window is pointless.. it doesn't work like it does on a PC were I can drag and drop
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I only use the multi-window occasionally. However, the stylus? I used to use that every day when I still had classes, but now that I'm doing all research and teaching, I only use it for quick and dirty calculations. I used to draw with it as well, but I don't have that time now.. :/
(What app are you using? I find that certain apps don't seem optimized for the spen, so the tracker does lag for those.)
tried lecture notes yesterday, looks clean and simple but i still feel the tracking lags a bit if you move the pen faster. if i write as i would on a normal paper it can't keep up completely. I tried the character recognition "keyboard" and it also fails to recognize most of my handwriting, might be a bit my fault too.
Anyway, still happy with my note, but i guess having spen or multiwindow won't be a requirement when i upgrade my tablet.
Otoh it seems that if choose to stick with samsung the new note 10.1 seems the only way to go because the galaxy tab3 has last year's screen resolution.
From your needs I would think that nexus 10 would be more than sufficient. Samsung too.
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From your needs I would think that nexus 10 would be more than sufficient. Samsung too.
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I agree. If you're not going to use the S-Pen, then why not get a Nexus 10 or even a Samsung Tab2/3? The only reason we put up with the dated resolution of the screen is the S-Pen, since there's no alternative (at least running Android).
Pretty much done away with notebooks here. I'm still torn between lecture notes and s note. I like certain features of each. I do find handwriting recognition more bother than worth. S pen IS the big advantage of the note. Definitely worth it to me.
Bottom line is my. Note is everywhere I am.
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I use mine for playing games and drawing and painting using clover paint and s note for taking notes
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I also use SPen everyday. I bought this tablet for taking notes during meetings. I'm fully happywith it.
I use the multiwindow feature when I need several functions at the same time. For instance, I can open SNote with a calculator or internet navigator. But honestly, it's not my favourite feature.
I plan to move to another ROM since Samsung is not prompt to send us a new one. I would like to setup accounts. However, I would like to keep SNote ...
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From your needs I would think that nexus 10 would be more than sufficient. Samsung too.
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I would have considered the Nexus 10 if it was sold in my country (which is not), but, even so, i read that the Nexus 10 might not be as fast/smooth as the Note due to the higher resolution.
Spen: Everyday in university
Multiwindow: Never
IR Blast: Never
Drawing: I am really, really bad at drawing stuff, so never
I recommend to everyone whose usage of the device matches the above, flash an AOSP based rom!
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Spen: Everyday in university
Multiwindow: Never
IR Blast: Never
Drawing: I am really, really bad at drawing stuff, so never
I recommend to everyone whose usage of the device matches the above, flash an AOSP based rom!
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do aosp roms support hovering and palm rejection? I'm looking to buy the new note but i figured i'd need to stick w/ touchwiz.
smac7 said:
do aosp roms support hovering and palm rejection? I'm looking to buy the new note but i figured i'd need to stick w/ touchwiz.
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What do you mean exactly with hovering? Of course the software is _able_ to detect the spen hovering, because this is a hardware feature of the digitizer. For example: In lecture notes you can use hovering to scroll the page, that's because the developer chose to get the signals of the hardware (spen and digitzer). Samsung chose to integrate the hovering feature in the system api, so that you can scroll in menu's etc. Most of the AOSP rom's (i am using cyanogenmod, look at my signature) will not include the hovering in their system, but nevertheless it's a hardware feature that is enabled, but the software needs to use it. I hope you can understand this.
To palm rejection: It's nearly the same, with the little difference that the touchscreen always shuts down if the spen is near it. I don't know if it's even possible to write software that brakes this feature.
But I can assure you: On cyanogenmod the writing with spen is much more fluid, smoother and feels much better than on a tw based rom.
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What do you mean exactly with hovering? Of course the software is _able_ to detect the spen hovering, because this is a hardware feature of the digitizer. For example: In lecture notes you can use hovering to scroll the page, that's because the developer chose to get the signals of the hardware (spen and digitzer). Samsung chose to integrate the hovering feature in the system api, so that you can scroll in menu's etc. Most of the AOSP rom's (i am using cyanogenmod, look at my signature) will not include the hovering in their system, but nevertheless it's a hardware feature that is enabled, but the software needs to use it. I hope you can understand this.
To palm rejection: It's nearly the same, with the little difference that the touchscreen always shuts down if the spen is near it. I don't know if it's even possible to write software that brakes this feature.
But I can assure you: On cyanogenmod the writing with spen is much more fluid, smoother and feels much better than on a tw based rom.
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thanks. that's what i wanted to know. I'm assuming pressure sensitivity works too then with apps that support it (i believe ezpdf does support this, at least it did when i tried in the store on the stock model)?
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thanks. that's what i wanted to know. I'm assuming pressure sensitivity works too then with apps that support it (i believe ezpdf does support this, at least it did when i tried in the store on the stock model)?
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Yes, it is. Works flawlessy in lecture notes on cyanogenmod.
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But I can assure you: On cyanogenmod the writing with spen is much more fluid, smoother and feels much better than on a tw based rom.
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Sounds good. But which tool are you using for taking notes? I guess you don't use anymore SNote, right?
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Sounds good. But which tool are you using for taking notes? I guess you don't use anymore SNote, right?
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That's not possible, there is no S Note on AOSP roms, it needs Toichwiz API /framework. I am using lecture notes, but many people also use papyrus. Your call.
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i think multiwindow is very useful
I have come to the conclusion that trying to do highly detailed retouching (like removing ink lines from a face) with a trackball is insane . I think I need a graphics tablet. Could I get by with one of the low end "Star" tablets XP-Pen sells or should I spring for a small XP-Pen Star05 amazon.com/dp/B01MAZ5FDL ? Or are there other, cheaper manufacturers I might consider?
I will be using the tablet for some types of retouching work only, not drawing or anything else.
I think you're on the wrong forum. anyway XP-Pen is good but I recommend the Huion 420. tbh I've only bought it for some weeb australian circle clicking game
btw try asking somewhere else
Crkza said:
I think you're on the wrong forum. anyway XP-Pen is good but I recommend the Huion 420. tbh I've only bought it for some weeb australian circle clicking game
btw try asking somewhere else
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To try bring the thread back to the device's forum, and to provide a (somewhat useless) insight into this comment:
Do not try to play osu! with the Note 10.1. You won't have a good time, whether you're using opsu! or trying to interface it with your PC because your drawing tab wasn't around and you needed a compromise like I did.
Trying to use any of the apps that claim to bring you tablet pen support for PC with a device like this is a headache... On the other hand, I'd be interested to know if there is someone out there who's willing to try turn this old tab I have lying next to me (and everyone else's) into a dedicated drawing tablet. Not something high end, but since SPen is based on Wacom's old digitiser system from the Intuos4, and the digitisers in the screens of Samsung devices are actually from Wacom AFAIK, it should be possible. Might give the device a third chance at life, after both Samsung and ROM devs have dropped it.
Riccorbypro said:
To try bring the thread back to the device's forum, and to provide a (somewhat useless) insight into this comment:
Do not try to play osu! with the Note 10.1. You won't have a good time, whether you're using opsu! or trying to interface it with your PC because your drawing tab wasn't around and you needed a compromise like I did.
Trying to use any of the apps that claim to bring you tablet pen support for PC with a device like this is a headache... On the other hand, I'd be interested to know if there is someone out there who's willing to try turn this old tab I have lying next to me (and everyone else's) into a dedicated drawing tablet. Not something high end, but since SPen is based on Wacom's old digitiser system from the Intuos4, and the digitisers in the screens of Samsung devices are actually from Wacom AFAIK, it should be possible. Might give the device a third chance at life, after both Samsung and ROM devs have dropped it.
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I mean I play osu! on a PC but OK.
Tried using opsu! on the Note 10.1 once. The Input lag is massive and the loading times are extremely slow.
And I tried using both my 10.1 and the Note 3 as a drawing tablet before I got my H420. Anyways I remember there was a kinda full Photoshop with layers for the 10.1, wasn't it? and where can I get it again? I had it preinstalled in the stock rom but now I installed LineageOS.
Crkza said:
I mean I play osu! on a PC but OK.
Tried using opsu! on the Note 10.1 once. The Input lag is massive and the loading times are extremely slow.
And I tried using both my 10.1 and the Note 3 as a drawing tablet before I got my H420. Anyways I remember there was a kinda full Photoshop with layers for the 10.1, wasn't it? and where can I get it again? I had it preinstalled in the stock rom but now I installed LineageOS.
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Yeah I wanted to use the 10.1 with my laptop for osu!. Bad idea that was. I don't remember the Photoshop one, but I do remember AutoDesk Sketchbook(?) worked quite well on it at one point.
Riccorbypro said:
Yeah I wanted to use the 10.1 with my laptop for osu!. Bad idea that was. I don't remember the Photoshop one, but I do remember AutoDesk Sketchbook(?) worked quite well on it at one point.
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Photoshop came with my stock rom tho. probs regionial /carrier differences. I got the tablet from AIS. And yes, I'm Thai.