[Q] Waterproof Temperature? - Xperia Z1 General

Is there a limit to the waterproofing temperature of the Z1?
I get that I can dunk it in a freshwater pool, or clean it off in the sink, but what if I spill my glass of tea on it? (It being near boiling point)

I have try it in an Swimmingpool at my work. It works fine.
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While I have no idea about limits, sudden changes in temperature are bad to anything, whether waterproof or not.
Think of it the same as how a hot cup can shatter when placed on ice.
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It would be best to just ask Sony. Second hand information for something like this is a terrible idea unless someone can point directly to data published by Sony.

ist guess it wouldn`t be good to drop it in hot water. not because of the waterproof. my thoughts are about the glass. as we all know that glass cracks easily in sudden changing temperatures.

I can say that I use my Sony Tablet Z and my Z1 in my hot tub set at 104 F with no issues. I have dunked both but typically mount the tab just above the rim but it has fell in several times.
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Hmm..
Maybe if u just spoil ur glass with hot water i think it wont do any damage..
But its a different story if u dip it on a hot water..
And like posts above, sudden temperatue change is very bad for materials..
Well its just my opinion..
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Coating on front screen fault

Had my s3 for ONE day. Noticed that the olephobic or similar coating on it is wearing off. Under my breath it looks like a million scratches the screen. Was really nice to start with. Now it has the feeling of a dirty screen protector on there now. Really not happy. Going to return tomorrow hoping it's just my model
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Didn't face that myself and also didn't hear of it before, good luck
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Hmmmm havent heard that also samsung never make defective products it probably just yours good luck
Just to be safe suggest you first confirm it's not some soiling residue. Try this: put a few drops of water onto screen and a minuscule amount of dishwashing detergent onto your finger, then use finger to spread around until water beads evenly across whole screen. Wipe off with paper towel. Repeat as needed. Fingers crossed ...
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No was definatly a bad one, it had the same sort of feel as a non apple replacement screen i had on my iphone. Under my breath was horrible scratch mark like lines after a lot of cleaning. Almost like i took the coating off is the only waybi can explain! Two days after use of my replacent s3 and still like new and silky smooth touch wood
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richyb86 said:
No was definatly a bad one, it had the same sort of feel as a non apple replacement screen i had on my iphone. Under my breath was horrible scratch mark like lines after a lot of cleaning. Almost like i took the coating off is the only waybi can explain! Two days after use of my replacent s3 and still like new and silky smooth touch wood
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I thougt i told you not to use the sand paper to clean the screen boy.
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This phone can take abuse!!

I did it, I confess. I've cracked my rear glass panel on my Z.
I was taking a picture out of my bedroom window of the sunset the other night, I have these door style windows that open on hinges sideways, well, it suddenly blew shut and dropped the phone.
It bounced down the sloping bit of roof, hit the patio and bounced around 4ft high before planting itself into the bird feeder at high speed.
All I can say is my heart literally stopped. I expected nothing left of it. BUT the screen isn't even scratched, theres barely a mark on the body and the crack on the back is about 5 or 6mm long running around the corner on the bottom left.
Sony, I love you.
Use a bigger hammer.
DrKrFfXx said:
Use a bigger hammer.
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I think a sledge hammer should just about do it
Kirkymole said:
I did it, I confess. I've cracked my rear glass panel on my Z.
I was taking a picture out of my bedroom window of the sunset the other night, I have these door style windows that open on hinges sideways, well, it suddenly blew shut and dropped the phone.
It bounced down the sloping bit of roof, hit the patio and bounced around 4ft high before planting itself into the bird feeder at high speed.
All I can say is my heart literally stopped. I expected nothing left of it. BUT the screen isn't even scratched, theres barely a mark on the body and the crack on the back is about 5 or 6mm long running around the corner on the bottom left.
Sony, I love you.
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Here in Berlin in the Sony center. They first when the phone came out in sony store they took it and threw on the ground all the time smashed n the table and did all kinda crazy **** to show ppl that thing barely breaks. It was honestly totally crazy lol
Kirkymole said:
I think a sledge hammer should just about do it
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topnotch buildquality!:victory:
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There's a person on YouTube who purposely beats the heckers out of phones, and in a joke video he put Kim Jong il in the Xperia Z and smacked it with a toilet brush.
The screen cracked by being hit with the toilet brush.
I guess OP was very lucky.
Calvat said:
There's a person on YouTube who purposely beats the heckers out of phones, and in a joke video he put Kim Jong il in the Xperia Z and smacked it with a toilet brush.
The screen cracked by being hit with the toilet brush.
I guess OP was very lucky.
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Yeah i also saw that guy, he's a fanboy of samsungs and iphones :/ but his tests of water resistance were great
Bairei said:
Yeah i also saw that guy, he's a fanboy of samsungs and iphones :/ but his tests of water resistance were great
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He would disagree but the amount of times he says 'against the Samsung--' goes to show... Although he has made fun of the Samsung before, at least.
I think he was surprised by the Beer Boot Test, going on to recommend it.
My friend has dropped his a couple of times onto a thin carpet (sitting on tiles) and it hasn't cracked, but he did get a rubberized case for it.
Dropped mine on ceramic tiles, a thin mat on ceramic tiles and onto ceramic tiles bouncing out the door onto concrete steps...No scratches on the glass or the side strips...the housing on the other hand a few chips and scratches at 2 of the corners...nothing to complain about.
Dropped it twice from a pretty high table. No cracks, no scratches nothing. Sony is incredible in manufacturing their devices, but their software is still wacky.
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ckyy said:
Dropped it twice from a pretty high table. No cracks, no scratches nothing. Sony is incredible in manufacturing their devices, but their software is still wacky.
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Mine not Z but my ZL drop about height of my chest mybe in around 160cm because im 178cm and it does not leave any scratches nor break..
Yes i do agree sony great in manufacturing but bad in software..
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Mine actually rolled down a flight of stairs, it still survived without cracks
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Mine fell on pavement! You know when you're driving and you forgot that your phone is on your lap and then you get out and hear that horrible smack sound! Screen and back are still perfect but the rubbery matte material has a few scratches. No biggie tho
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awesome
I was returning from a swim the other day when mine fell out of my swimming trunks onto the rocks, pretty hard fall. No cracks, only a few marks in the anti-shatter film. Seriously hate that film though, am certain the glass could have taken the hit and I wouldn't be sitting here with visible marks in a plastic film. I'm considering removing it but I want that Sony logo .
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I was returning from a swim the other day when mine fell out of my swimming trunks onto the rocks, pretty hard fall. No cracks, only a few marks in the anti-shatter film. Seriously hate that film though, am certain the glass could have taken the hit and I wouldn't be sitting here with visible marks in a plastic film. I'm considering removing it but I want that Sony logo .
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The loss of the sony logo is OK looks better... I tried SPG glas-t and after i cut myself with it i removed... now i have Screen Knight film. Don't want to make advert but is good, feels a bit rubbery and flexible. It gives a good protection due its flexibility. Top of that is adds a bit of thickness to the back so your phone no longer sits on its edges rather sits on its back. LESS SLIPPY :victory:
PS: when i repaired my losing back panel i already had it on, and i put the sucker cup on the protector, i thought is going to come off anyway.... IT DIDN'T Is not coming off easy for sure...
Mine did nit survive to my frenchie's jaws LOL
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Wow, guys. So it sounds like I don't really need to go get the toughest case for the phone?
TracerBullitt said:
Wow, guys. So it sounds like I don't really need to go get the toughest case for the phone?
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Well u hear good and bad stories. I for ones saw with my on eyes that this phone can be dropped from high and hit on tables and stuff like they did directly at the sony center but then also heard reports that the screen broke easy when just touched with a fingernail right by the earpiece. So yeah. I never dropped my phones so I don't know how it performs.
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Black spots on camera experiance.

My experience.
My backplate had cracks and needed to be replaced so I taught I look at the camera that has black spot syndrome.
Tried to clean it with compressed air.no use.
Dissembeled cameras lens part (needs soldering) and cleaned sensor.
Looks like some spots are gone but most of them are there.
No thinking that the problem isnt sensor but lenses.to be exact between lenses part that cant dissasemble easily.
Has enyone tried to fix it by himself?
No. I've simply returned it because it's not my duty to fix it. This shouldn't happen in the first place (no cracks, never put it in water, always had a case etc).
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anyone knows how much it cost to fix the camera blackspot problem? coz my Z warranty period is over

How resistant is the phone?

Hey all,
I'm currently deciding between the s5 and the new one m8, the reason of the thread is becuase I want some opinions of owners that already experience it's durability, I want to know how resistent the phone really is, I'm an active person from biking every day to running and going to the gym I really want I phone I don't have to baby so much, I don't want cases or screen protectors I want to forget I have to protect and baby my phone and that's the only reason why I'm considering the s5, I hate TouchWiz but if this phone can hold up my peace in willing to sacrifice my stock android experience.
Thanks to those who share their experience in advance.
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It is water and dust resistant, but that's it. It's just as durable as other "regular" phones out there, and I can't think why would you even expect anything else? So you either put case on it, or you buy a different phone. You can't get a phone this thin, that can take the beating, simple as that...
It's resistant, not rugged.
It's water and dust resistance seems more like in case the phone falls in water, or in case you drop it at the beach. Not, "hey let's go swimming with my phone in my pocket!"
This is just my initial impression. It feels like any other Samsung phone. I'm not willing to test it out because I don't want to risk it in case I return the phone.
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acPIZZA said:
It's resistant, not rugged.
It's water and dust resistance seems more like in case the phone falls in water, or in case you drop it at the beach. Not, "hey let's go swimming with my phone in my pocket!"
This is just my initial impression. It feels like any other Samsung phone. I'm not willing to test it out because I don't want to risk it in case I return the phone.
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I've dunked the phone underwater in a pool plenty times and its been fine. Its IP67 so it's waterproof for up to 2 Meters or something for half an hour.
Dunno why Samsung keep saying 'resistant' when it seems to be more then that
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declan8888 said:
I've dunked the phone underwater in a pool plenty times and its been fine. Its IP67 so it's waterproof for up to 2 Meters or something for half an hour.
Dunno why Samsung keep saying 'resistant' when it seems to be more then that
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If they said water proof they'd have people scuba diving with it and then suing them when it broke.
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acPIZZA said:
If they said water proof they'd have people scuba diving with it and then suing them when it broke.
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http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/xperia-tablet-z/sgp511-sgp512-sgp521
There is Sony saying their Z2 Tablet is waterproof. Obviously that would break if you took it scuba diving, however Sony still says it's waterproof.
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declan8888 said:
http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/xperia-tablet-z/sgp511-sgp512-sgp521
There is Sony saying their Z2 Tablet is waterproof. Obviously that would break if you took it scuba diving, however Sony still says it's waterproof.
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I was just thinking off the top of my head. Good point. I really don't know why one company chooses waterproof and one chooses resistant.
Does the Sony have a removable back plate?
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No
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acPIZZA said:
I was just thinking off the top of my head. Good point. I really don't know why one company chooses waterproof and one chooses resistant.
Does the Sony have a removable back plate?
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Perhaps it could be Samsung taking an extra step to cover themselves. The new Sony's are all sealed shut but I imagine the waterproofing is just the same method with the rubber seal
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You can't see it, because it blends in with the case material, but the entire back of the Sony phone is covered with fine print.
Using a special ultraviolet light, defending counsel will illuminate the phone in court and have you testify as they point out that it was printed there all along.
It's in the booklet, needless to say Samsung does appear to be working at covering themselves from liability more than Sony.
acPIZZA said:
It's resistant, not rugged.
It's water and dust resistance seems more like in case the phone falls in water, or in case you drop it at the beach. Not, "hey let's go swimming with my phone in my pocket!"
This is just my initial impression. It feels like any other Samsung phone. I'm not willing to test it out because I don't want to risk it in case I return the phone.
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Yeah! This makes sense! It's just that, they test it so people would know how resistant it is, but me either, I will not risk mine. Maybe, by accident it fell in the water, then I'll see what happen next if it's true.
sony says they device are waterproof because they are ip58, the 8 means they are completely waterproof aka completed sealed from water. and in this case, the depth and time of immersion are specified by the manufacturer. sony specifies it 2m and 30 minutes, so if you keep the devive under water but dont go beyond that, it should be fine
Its close to moron resistant so I say keep away(Im not even joking), just how resistant is it well you may burn your hands at first touch!
Oh yeah sick thread dude its real awesome!
It maybe water resistent. But I think if you have open close the usb port hundred times, the water protection will not be perfect anymore.
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You won't need to baby it as much as the HTC. With the metal back on the HTC, you'd be afraid of even putting it down on a table for fear of scratching it.
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Will changing the cracked screen make my phone "not" water proof?

Hi everyone,
Unfortunately I got my s7 edge cracked, I'm not sure if now it will leak water into the phone!! However I want to know if I changed it will I be losing the waterproof functionality?
Regards
If its replaced by samsung it will be good as new, if you replace it yourself there's a good chance that it won't be water tight anymore.
Just don't go swimming with it and you're good
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It's not a waterproof device. It's a water resistant. There are differences between each other lol
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A little trick I learned on my Xperia Z2 was to find the barometer in the hidden menus. Squeeze down and if the pressure rises it should be waterproof. That is what I did before playing with that device in the water. Not sure how this phone reacts to the same test but worth a try.
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worf_1977 said:
It's not a waterproof device. It's a water resistant. There are differences between each other lol
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Its border line waterproof. IP68 is the top rating in water resistance
Yes I know borders rating. But read the instructions manual and look for the word waterproof.
Good luck!
Instead you will find tons of references to water proofing and advises of not to submerge the phone in any way
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worf_1977 said:
Yes I know borders rating. But read the instructions manual and look for the word waterproof.
Good luck!
Instead you will find tons of references to water proofing and advises of not to submerge the phone in any way
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They don't say waterproof, to cover themselves. There's always the chance of a leak.
But Samsung do say it CAN be submerged, so what you've said isn't really true.
http://www.samsung.com/au/pdf/IP68.pdf
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Its border line waterproof. IP68 is the top rating in water resistance
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Ip68 is not exactly the top rating. It's just a test for water resistance. Passing IP68 test doesn't mean the device pass IP65 test. That's why some device(such as some xperia devices) have 2 IP rating for 65 and 68. And S7 is likely fail in ip65 test.
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