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4G speeds?

Here is the story: http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/17/its-twoo-its-twoo-4g-speed-is-a-reality/
Is it possible to develop and get us rooted users on 4G? I am a little uncertain of what the article is assuming.

i dont believe it but if its true... WOW

Yeah, Im not sure what a developer could do, to piggy back these speeds.

Hmmm.
1.3mbps on 4G? That's it? And which 4G? You mean Sprint's WiMAX? Or someone else's 4G network that has not been built yet?
I'm calling it. Shenanigans.

Breakthecycle2 said:
Here is the story: http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/17/its-twoo-its-twoo-4g-speed-is-a-reality/
Is it possible to develop and get us rooted users on 4G? I am a little uncertain of what the article is assuming.
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I am uncertain as well and those sure don't look like 4G speeds to me. However, I think there are hardware limitations that will prevent the N1 or any current phone from taking advantage of 4G. I don't believe it is equipped with the proper antenna and therefore maxed out at 7.2mbps

Interestin, thou by looking at dl speeds its not uncommon for me(I'm in Seattle) to get 1.5-2mb dl speeds, which is significantly faster then my DSL at home: )

e4604 said:
Interestin, thou by looking at dl speeds its not uncommon for me(I'm in Seattle) to get 1.5-2mb dl speeds, which is significantly faster then my DSL at home: )
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Yes but that's on 3G. 4G brings theoretical speeds up to 21mbps

I figured as much, and call it shenanigans aswell....thou i must say 21mb speeds on my n1would be awesome:drool: blah id settle for 5-7mb

Yeah I definitly call BS.

Gimpeh said:
Yeah I definitly call BS.
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I wouldn't call it BS yet....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648160

nazforex said:
I wouldn't call it BS yet....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648160
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Well look at that.

T-Mobile HSPA+ Speed Test
Here's an article about this
http://gizmodo.com/5493830/t+mobile-hspa%2B-speed-test-3g-gets-pumped-up-to-21mbps

jlevy73 said:
Yes but that's on 3G. 4G brings theoretical speeds up to 21mbps
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No, 21 Mb/s is still considered 3G,or 3.75G.

My 3g is faster.
Test Date: Mar 18, 2010 1:22:16 am
Connection Type: Cell
Download: 1452 kbps
Upload: 408 kbps
Ping: 168 ms
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Misuse of terms for standards makes unicorns cry.

i'm in Dallas and i'm getting stellar download speeds on T-Mo 3G, but uploads are a different story (see below). with 4G, would we see higher upload speeds as well???

There is no 4G on T-Mobile, not for a while, and our phones don't do 4G.

I'm not sure I would call 21mbps 4g (whatever that's supposed to mean). Here in Norway there is already a company that has a working LTE-network up and running (although only in the capital) and that has a theoretical top speed of 100mbps. Think the net is limited to 50mbps atm, but I've yet to meet anyone that has bought a modem (no, it's not compatible with current phones).

thepawn said:
There is no 4G on T-Mobile, not for a while, and our phones don't do 4G.
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adjectives, learn them, love them.

muncheese said:
adjectives, learn them, love them.
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Not sure what you are getting at?

4G Now??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648160
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/17/its-twoo-its-twoo-4g-speed-is-a-reality/
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Cant wait till this is hacked into the N1!!

i mis read the #'s lol

First... those are 3G speeds, albeit higher than most of us currently experience on T-mobile. Second, anyone can add the 4G icon if they're rooted... just replace the 3G one with the 4G one, and there you go. That being said, bbuchacher is a pretty stand up guy and a well-known dev for the G1, so that throws my entire analysis upside down.

hoping the devs can implement this into the roms

uansari1 said:
First... those are 3G speeds, albeit higher than most of us currently experience on T-mobile. Second, anyone can add the 4G icon if they're rooted... just replace the 3G one with the 4G one, and there you go. That being said, bbuchacher is a pretty stand up guy and a well-known dev for the G1, so that throws my entire analysis upside down.
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exactly what i was thinking when i saw the screen shot lol. Still faster then what most are getting now though.

Those are pretty far from 4G speeds.
That's just HSDPA+ (3.5g?)
I'm in the NY Metro area, here's my T-Mobile runs:
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4G is touting being 10-30 times faster then this.

thepawn said:
Those are pretty far from 4G speeds.
That's just HSDPA+ (3.5g?)
I'm in the NY Metro area, here's my T-Mobile runs:
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4G is touting being 10-30 times faster then this.
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Yep pretty much made this false. Ive hit 1600kbps off 3.5g as well.

i would be happy if i could get any of those speeds i see. my avg is around 700kbs on 3G. Even cyanogen i s saying he has the test code and it works.

MvP77 said:
i would be happy if i could get any of those speeds i see. my avg is around 700kbs on 3G. Even cyanogen i s saying he has the test code and it works.
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Well if yet another Dev, Cyanogen in this case, is vouching for it...then there's not much more to say.

I don't have test code, I'm not even rooted, those are my speeds there in that screenshot.
They're probably getting HSDPA code updates to get us the max 7.2Mb/s that T-Mobile supposedly "on-lined" last year....I live in an HSDPA area and I don't get over 3.5Mb/s max so far, it would be nice to see 7Mb/s...heck, our tech specs don't even list HSDPA+, which would be nice to have...maybe thats what they are referring to, but even that is still only "3.5G".
By industry definition, "4G" is WiMax or LTE...neither of which are in our phone...

FYI, I guarantee this is not 4G and to say so is a major load of crap. I can also guarantee all it is is an ID key that tells the T-Mobile network you are a tester, and thus are not capped.
Simply put, this hack will be cut off if enough people use it since all T-Mobile has to do is change the ID Key this fakes to something else.

Kind of off topic. Isn't T-Mobile hspa+ 21mbs faster then. Wimax 4g. Even though our phones only support 7.2mbs wouldn't this still give us a speed increase?

WiMax 4G has a technical peak of 144Mbs/35Mbs, LTE is 360Mbs/80Mbs...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards)
HSDPA actually covers a wide range of configurations that vary depending on how the hardware is built and deployed. LTE is actually considered the evolution of UMTS/HSPA-Evolved (HSPA-Evolved is the evolution of HSDPA).
The HSDPA+ 21Mbs networks being brought up are category 14, the 7.2's are category 8, and the "general" 3G HSDPA networks are category 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
LTE is supposed to provide a final convergence of UTMS and EV-DO, though we'll still have a multi-standard market because of WiMax.
There's a lot of easy info out there to read about it all...

thepawn said:
WiMax 4G has a technical peak of 144Mbs/35Mbs, LTE is 360Mbs/80Mbs...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards)
HSDPA actually covers a wide range of configurations that vary depending on how the hardware is built and deployed. LTE is actually considered the evolution of UMTS/HSPA-Evolved (HSPA-Evolved is the evolution of HSDPA).
The HSDPA+ 21Mbs networks being brought up are category 14, the 7.2's are category 8, and the "general" 3G HSDPA networks are category 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
LTE is supposed to provide a final convergence of UTMS and EV-DO, though we'll still have a multi-standard market because of WiMax.
There's a lot of easy info out there to read about it all...
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Thanks. Didn't wanna look it up while at work. Eyes hurt if I read to much on my nexus lol

Hspa vs Hspa+

I found it pretty interesting reading through Anandtechs Nexus S review when they compared speedtests in an Hspa+ zone between the Nexus S and MyTouch4g. His tests showed that the average dl/ul speeds in an Hspa+ area are virtually identical, obviously results will vary depending on your location but I think it speaks to how the technology itself works and what you can expect in real world use.
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Another thing of note is that the NS doesn't suffer from any sort of "death grip."

I used HSPA on my Vibrant last summer, and believe me it's fast enough. HSPA+ is just going to kill your battery faster, I can live without it.

HSPA 7.2 down
HSPA+ 14.4

rashad1 said:
I used HSPA on my Vibrant last summer, and believe me it's fast enough. HSPA+ is just going to kill your battery faster, I can live without it.
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Especially when we are talking about loading webpages. When it comes to large file transfers sure the extra speed is nice, but at this point with mobile phones, if you are doing large file tranfers you are probably on wifi.

slowz3r said:
HSPA 7.2 down
HSPA+ 14.4
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yup. I'm good with half the potential of current HSPA+ or even a third of what it will be. (22)
And i've never gotten above 2.0Mbps down on my nexus in south florida, so anything above that would be awesome.

neok44 said:
yup. I'm good with half the potential of current HSPA+ or even a third of what it will be. (22)
And i've never gotten above 2.0Mbps down on my nexus in south florida, so anything above that would be awesome.
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On average I get 6 megs down and 1.3 up on my N1
It should also be noted that MB/s does not represent true data transfer speed it would be kB/s and NOT kbps

slowz3r said:
On average I get 6 megs down and 1.3 up on my N1
It should also be noted that MB/s does not represent true data transfer speed it would be kB/s and NOT kbps
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damn your lucky. even with full bars and the H symbol on the notification bar i've never seen more than 2.3/1.0. Just another reason why i don't mind that the NS doesn't have HSPA+ since it'll be 2-3 years until t-mobile gets around to getting anything above 7.2 here.
I didn't have 3G on my G1 for almost 6 months took t-mobile so long to finally add 3g to south florida.

neok44 said:
damn your lucky. even with full bars and the H symbol on the notification bar i've never seen more than 2.3/1.0. Just another reason why i don't mind that the NS doesn't have HSPA+ since it'll be 2-3 years until t-mobile gets around to getting anything above 7.2 here.
I didn't have 3G on my G1 for almost 6 months took t-mobile so long to finally add 3g to south florida.
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Ya, wasnt Florida one of the last markets to get 3g?

slowz3r said:
Ya, wasnt Florida one of the last markets to get 3g?
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pretty much. Miami had it about 4-5 months before the rest of south florida, and shortly after the rest of the state followed. probably gonna be the same with 4G, so i don't expect to get it here for at least a year.

neok44 said:
pretty much. Miami had it about 4-5 months before the rest of south florida, and shortly after the rest of the state followed. probably gonna be the same with 4G, so i don't expect to get it here for at least a year.
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its okay ill send you some of my 4G's

ikon8 said:
I found it pretty interesting reading through Anandtechs Nexus S review when they compared speedtests in an Hspa+ zone between the Nexus S and MyTouch4g. His tests showed that the average dl/ul speeds in an Hspa+ area are virtually identical, obviously results will vary depending on your location but I think it speaks to how the technology itself works and what you can expect in real world use.
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Lolz. The G2 where I live can pull 10mbps and the Vibrant can pull 7.2mbps

im loving HSPA+ here in Miami/Ft Lauderdale

Atrix speeds comparison.

A buddy of mine has the iPhone 4s - not making a thread of android vs apple - but we're both on AT&T and he is getting speeds of 6mb. Ran the test 10 times on both our phones and I can't touch 3mb. We're both running speedtest and I've tried different apns and keep getting the same speeds. We're both in same city same area.
Any explanations. Is there an APN the iPhone is using or the radio on it that is giving it better speeds?
I used following APNS: AT&T HSPA+ , AT&T US HSDPA, AT&T US.

From SG, I got over 5Mbps always. (@ places where I can get 4G)
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chriscerv90 said:
A buddy of mine has the iPhone 4s - not making a thread of android vs apple - but we're both on AT&T and he is getting speeds of 6mb. Ran the test 10 times on both our phones and I can't touch 3mb. We're both running speedtest and I've tried different apns and keep getting the same speeds. We're both in same city same area.
Any explanations. Is there an APN the iPhone is using or the radio on it that is giving it better speeds?
I used following APNS: AT&T HSPA+ , AT&T US HSDPA, AT&T US.
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What radio are you using? If its not N_01.77.30P or N_01.77.36P, you should run an update since AT&T capped the data speeds on older Atrix radios.

Jotokun said:
What radio are you using? If its not N_01.77.30P or N_01.77.36P, you should run an update since AT&T capped the data speeds on older Atrix radios.
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Yea let me try flashing .36P radio. What radio are you using?
Edit: I am on N_01.77.30P
Maybe my phone is just sucking it today - or no back haul in my area? Still cant seem to understand how my buddy is getting those speeds though.

1.77.36P
Available in fruitcake thread.
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spiderx_mm said:
From SG, I got over 5Mbps always. (@ places where I can get 4G)
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No 4G in Singapore. The radio in the international version of the atrix is different.

Call me OCD .... but I've been FN with this dang phone for days straight flashing radios... trying different APN's .... and I cannot get speeds faster than 2mb down and 1 mb up. But my buddy is sitting here next to me with an iphone 4s getting a constant 6 mb down....
WTH am I doing wrong?

chriscerv90 said:
Call me OCD .... but I've been FN with this dang phone for days straight flashing radios... trying different APN's .... and I cannot get speeds faster than 2mb down and 1 mb up. But my buddy is sitting here next to me with an iphone 4s getting a constant 6 mb down....
WTH am I doing wrong?
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Maybe you should have him ask Siri? LoL!!
~ Sent from My Unlocked, Rooted, Faux 1.45 gHz, Dorian's Red Pill Hybrid CM7 ROM-ed Atrix 4G ~

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Maybe you should have him ask Siri? LoL!!
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ROTFL!!!!!

LTE / 4G Speed Tests

Hi,
Lets show off a bit of our speed demons?
Here is T-Mobile US, Server in Fort Lauderdale,
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I get faster speeds from London to Amsterdam than from another server in London

Tre in Göteborg, Sweden. (If I use their ipv6 apn I only get 10/10 though, I guess because of the way they route ipv4-packets in that case, do you guys know any way of testing the speed using ipv6?)

ergoen said:
Tre in Göteborg, Sweden. (If I use their ipv6 apn I only get 10/10 though, I guess because of the way they route ipv4-packets in that case, do you guys know any way of testing the speed using ipv6?)
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Lol verry nice,50mbit on mobile and i have 10mbit on cable!

aigaming said:
Lol verry nice,50mbit on mobile and i have 10mbit on cable!
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Hehe, I have a monthly data cap of 2GB though, after which it get's throttled to 200kbit, so its not very useful, I would rather have lower ping rates and (a bit) lower speed to be honest.

I wish there was way to change the 4G symbol into LTE symbol.
LTE sounds cooler :lol:
I i am not in US at the moment, but noticed on T-Mobile US I have the 3G APN settings, here its posted different settings for 4G .. retest in few days.
@ergoen , 2GB monthly is not bad, I have 200 MB 4G per day only ..

in front of department of homeland security in seattle.....those whores.
When I hit the populated areas I get a consistent 40-60mb down with 10-20mb up. At my house....2mb down.

Megafon, Moscow. I think I can get much more speed, but I dont have this much traffic
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Oh snap, shots fired hahahaha
Are you running stock firmware or a rom? I dont like how stock wont show lte...just 4g.

First screenshot is Kitslim, second is CM-based rom.
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My Z1 Compact in Montevideo, Uruguay. I have one of those new LTE contracts from local carrier ANTEL, they offer LTE 20/2Mbps but for some unkown reason it's working faster than contract limits.
So far I'm very happy with Z1c !!!

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Any body know how change back 4g to lte icon?

mine is stock and shows only Lte, never saw 4g on my z1c.

Depends from firmware to firmware! You need search a firmware which show icon LTE.
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Fast, but unfortunately can't get over the 100mbps mark. 99/14

4G speeds on Three Mobiles 4G network

My dad get this speed on Telia Sweden LTE and hes using a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact

Hey American AT&T users/anybody that could help me out: I'm having trouble getting 4G on AT&T in Northern California.
Could you go to settings --> about phone, and tell me what your "Baseband version" and "Build Number" is?
Also, do you have the 4g option enabled? (You can check by dragging down the notification bar --> quick settings --> edit --> and selecting 'LTE'. Is it toggled on or off?)
Thanks!