Here is the story: http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/17/its-twoo-its-twoo-4g-speed-is-a-reality/
Is it possible to develop and get us rooted users on 4G? I am a little uncertain of what the article is assuming.
i dont believe it but if its true... WOW
Yeah, Im not sure what a developer could do, to piggy back these speeds.
Hmmm.
1.3mbps on 4G? That's it? And which 4G? You mean Sprint's WiMAX? Or someone else's 4G network that has not been built yet?
I'm calling it. Shenanigans.
Breakthecycle2 said:
Here is the story: http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/17/its-twoo-its-twoo-4g-speed-is-a-reality/
Is it possible to develop and get us rooted users on 4G? I am a little uncertain of what the article is assuming.
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I am uncertain as well and those sure don't look like 4G speeds to me. However, I think there are hardware limitations that will prevent the N1 or any current phone from taking advantage of 4G. I don't believe it is equipped with the proper antenna and therefore maxed out at 7.2mbps
Interestin, thou by looking at dl speeds its not uncommon for me(I'm in Seattle) to get 1.5-2mb dl speeds, which is significantly faster then my DSL at home: )
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Interestin, thou by looking at dl speeds its not uncommon for me(I'm in Seattle) to get 1.5-2mb dl speeds, which is significantly faster then my DSL at home: )
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Yes but that's on 3G. 4G brings theoretical speeds up to 21mbps
I figured as much, and call it shenanigans aswell....thou i must say 21mb speeds on my n1would be awesome:drool: blah id settle for 5-7mb
Yeah I definitly call BS.
Gimpeh said:
Yeah I definitly call BS.
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I wouldn't call it BS yet....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648160
nazforex said:
I wouldn't call it BS yet....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648160
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Well look at that.
T-Mobile HSPA+ Speed Test
Here's an article about this
http://gizmodo.com/5493830/t+mobile-hspa%2B-speed-test-3g-gets-pumped-up-to-21mbps
jlevy73 said:
Yes but that's on 3G. 4G brings theoretical speeds up to 21mbps
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No, 21 Mb/s is still considered 3G,or 3.75G.
My 3g is faster.
Test Date: Mar 18, 2010 1:22:16 am
Connection Type: Cell
Download: 1452 kbps
Upload: 408 kbps
Ping: 168 ms
A detailed image for this result can be found here:
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Misuse of terms for standards makes unicorns cry.
i'm in Dallas and i'm getting stellar download speeds on T-Mo 3G, but uploads are a different story (see below). with 4G, would we see higher upload speeds as well???
There is no 4G on T-Mobile, not for a while, and our phones don't do 4G.
I'm not sure I would call 21mbps 4g (whatever that's supposed to mean). Here in Norway there is already a company that has a working LTE-network up and running (although only in the capital) and that has a theoretical top speed of 100mbps. Think the net is limited to 50mbps atm, but I've yet to meet anyone that has bought a modem (no, it's not compatible with current phones).
thepawn said:
There is no 4G on T-Mobile, not for a while, and our phones don't do 4G.
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adjectives, learn them, love them.
muncheese said:
adjectives, learn them, love them.
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I'm running CM's 5.2.
I've been testing upload/download speeds in the Arlington area. And WOW! I'm averaging 4400 download, 1100 upload!
Anyone else care to share?
What are you using to test speeds?
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What are you using to test speeds?
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the speedtest.net app.
could it be exagerated?
Wow.. I doubt it, that's supposed to be fairly accurate. To compare, using that same app, I typically get around 600kbps.
I'm using CM 5.0.2 + latest radio rom.
3G appears to be more stable.
Speed is much faster than usual. I got 2500-4000kbps from several tests last night. I'm in Chicago.
I'm tethering it with my laptop and it's faster & more stable than Sprint 4G/Overdrive.
krumb said:
I'm running CM's 5.2.
I've been testing upload/download speeds in the Arlington area. And WOW! I'm averaging 4400 download, 1100 upload!
Anyone else care to share?
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Your lucky, they haven't upgraded up in the Frisco area yet...
Cheeze[iT] said:
Your lucky, they haven't upgraded up in the Frisco area yet...
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what speeds are you pulling?
I live in dallas tx too I only get does speed around downtown. Where i live i get around 2100 down and 400 up.
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about 800 - 1200...
i got whats in my sig last night... i was shocked... with the ERE27 (update 1) radio too no less
I am in Tyler, about 90 miles east of Big D. I only get about 500k on 3g.
Yep i'm here in frisco and getting 3300kbps average
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Yep i'm here in frisco and getting 3300kbps average
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your getting 3300 avg? where are you testing at and what are you testing with? I tested inside the stonebriar mall and only get ~1300
im in Houston, currently downtown i get 700 up and 400 down. i have newest radio and cyan mod... my cousin lives in frisco. im jealous whats up with that? why such a huge difference???
Denver
average speed 500-650
i'm in the carrollton/coppell area using CM 5.02 and the best i've gotten is 947kbps/down and 381kbps/up. on average i'm seeing 584kbps/down and 300kbps/up.
I just tested.
'SpeedTest.net Speed Test by Ookla'
612Kbps down
434Kbps up
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Then tried the test using 'Speedtest by Xtreme Labs'.
619Kbps down
143Kbps up
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Why so low?
ROM: Cyanogen_5.0.2_stable
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ran this morning, right up the road from the Texas Rangers' Ballpark.
I'm in Fort Worth and I don't see anything close to the speed mentioned in the OP.
One thing that kinda makes sense though, considering that the OP mentioned the speeds posted was in Arlington, is perhaps Tmobile bumped up their network in Arlington as a way to show their networks capabilities to Tmobile users that were in town for the NBA All Stars. After all if I remember correctly, Tmobile is a sponsor and it would be a shame if Tmobile users can't get any decent data coverage in the stadium.
Ran tests all over Dallas, and Richardson. I always get around .6-.9Mb/s down and about .2-.5Mb/s up. This was done with the ookla app. The one from xtreme labs gave me even 2-3Mb/s, but it seems buggy, since i never got that speed...
Went to Houston this winter, and got about 2Mb/s in the airport, which was at least double of the speed i am getting in Dallas area... T-Mo 3G is kinda ****ty in Dallas.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648160
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/17/its-twoo-its-twoo-4g-speed-is-a-reality/
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Cant wait till this is hacked into the N1!!
i mis read the #'s lol
First... those are 3G speeds, albeit higher than most of us currently experience on T-mobile. Second, anyone can add the 4G icon if they're rooted... just replace the 3G one with the 4G one, and there you go. That being said, bbuchacher is a pretty stand up guy and a well-known dev for the G1, so that throws my entire analysis upside down.
hoping the devs can implement this into the roms
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First... those are 3G speeds, albeit higher than most of us currently experience on T-mobile. Second, anyone can add the 4G icon if they're rooted... just replace the 3G one with the 4G one, and there you go. That being said, bbuchacher is a pretty stand up guy and a well-known dev for the G1, so that throws my entire analysis upside down.
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exactly what i was thinking when i saw the screen shot lol. Still faster then what most are getting now though.
Those are pretty far from 4G speeds.
That's just HSDPA+ (3.5g?)
I'm in the NY Metro area, here's my T-Mobile runs:
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4G is touting being 10-30 times faster then this.
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Those are pretty far from 4G speeds.
That's just HSDPA+ (3.5g?)
I'm in the NY Metro area, here's my T-Mobile runs:
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4G is touting being 10-30 times faster then this.
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Yep pretty much made this false. Ive hit 1600kbps off 3.5g as well.
i would be happy if i could get any of those speeds i see. my avg is around 700kbs on 3G. Even cyanogen i s saying he has the test code and it works.
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i would be happy if i could get any of those speeds i see. my avg is around 700kbs on 3G. Even cyanogen i s saying he has the test code and it works.
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Well if yet another Dev, Cyanogen in this case, is vouching for it...then there's not much more to say.
I don't have test code, I'm not even rooted, those are my speeds there in that screenshot.
They're probably getting HSDPA code updates to get us the max 7.2Mb/s that T-Mobile supposedly "on-lined" last year....I live in an HSDPA area and I don't get over 3.5Mb/s max so far, it would be nice to see 7Mb/s...heck, our tech specs don't even list HSDPA+, which would be nice to have...maybe thats what they are referring to, but even that is still only "3.5G".
By industry definition, "4G" is WiMax or LTE...neither of which are in our phone...
FYI, I guarantee this is not 4G and to say so is a major load of crap. I can also guarantee all it is is an ID key that tells the T-Mobile network you are a tester, and thus are not capped.
Simply put, this hack will be cut off if enough people use it since all T-Mobile has to do is change the ID Key this fakes to something else.
Kind of off topic. Isn't T-Mobile hspa+ 21mbs faster then. Wimax 4g. Even though our phones only support 7.2mbs wouldn't this still give us a speed increase?
WiMax 4G has a technical peak of 144Mbs/35Mbs, LTE is 360Mbs/80Mbs...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards)
HSDPA actually covers a wide range of configurations that vary depending on how the hardware is built and deployed. LTE is actually considered the evolution of UMTS/HSPA-Evolved (HSPA-Evolved is the evolution of HSDPA).
The HSDPA+ 21Mbs networks being brought up are category 14, the 7.2's are category 8, and the "general" 3G HSDPA networks are category 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
LTE is supposed to provide a final convergence of UTMS and EV-DO, though we'll still have a multi-standard market because of WiMax.
There's a lot of easy info out there to read about it all...
thepawn said:
WiMax 4G has a technical peak of 144Mbs/35Mbs, LTE is 360Mbs/80Mbs...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards)
HSDPA actually covers a wide range of configurations that vary depending on how the hardware is built and deployed. LTE is actually considered the evolution of UMTS/HSPA-Evolved (HSPA-Evolved is the evolution of HSDPA).
The HSDPA+ 21Mbs networks being brought up are category 14, the 7.2's are category 8, and the "general" 3G HSDPA networks are category 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
LTE is supposed to provide a final convergence of UTMS and EV-DO, though we'll still have a multi-standard market because of WiMax.
There's a lot of easy info out there to read about it all...
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Thanks. Didn't wanna look it up while at work. Eyes hurt if I read to much on my nexus lol
ok, so like many of you i've had the phone since the 15th and unlike some of you, i like it. lol it's actually my 1st android smartphone. i think it's decently fast, and according to the specs, it's supposed to be. i was just curious what people's speeds were.
i live in chicago and am gettin on average .65 mbps download and .55 mbps upload. are these good numbers? now when i'm on my wireless i've gotten 9.58 mbps download and 3.00 mbps upload. which is obviously way better but just on tmo's 3g, are those good??? i cant wait for HSPA numbers here in chicago but it's not here yet. :/ anyways, what kinda numbers are you guys gettin? thanks...
I get close to 3mb dl and 1.5ul when I'm at work at the port of l.a. and around .45 dl and .75 ul when I'm at home in long beach, ca. on my wireless I get around 14.9mb dl and 3.5mb ul on verizon fios.
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I average about 1mb downloads and .6 uploads. Most ive seen was about 1.4 mb
2.2 Mb Down 1.2Mb Up in New York City.
It's in my sig.
so are my 3g speeds ok? lol i mean i dont really notice it bein that slow like some others complain but bein my 1st andriod phone, i'm not really sure what kinda speeds i'm supposed to get. i'm assuming regardless of you being on tmo, the 3g speeds still vary from city to city or region to region rite?
They're not HSPA+ but they are normal for the regular 3G network.
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Considering I was getting about 800-900 Kbps on the G1, I think this is pretty darn good.
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2.2 MB Down 1.2MB Up in New York City.
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stop lying 2.2MegaBYTE/sec download over 3G? right. and 1.2MegaBYTE upload? wow
3-4.5 dl 1.2-1.5 upload
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i get about 2-3/mb down, 0.5-1/mb up on average over 3g in minneapolis, i have peaked at about 6mb down, i dont see that too often though
UMTS. What I find odd is that my phone will say I'm connected to HSPDA but then after a moment it kicks over to UMTS..but overall, I get good speeds.
2.14d/.44u from in my apartment where my 3g signal seems to be finicky sometimes.
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Heres mine.... 4.5 MB/s down and 1.3 MB/s up
http://www.speedtest.net/android/7712264.png
I get about x3 MB download and.5 mb upload
ok, mine is in my sig, but these are not average results. Its really weird that I can sometimes get up to 6mb down and almost 2mbs up but only at the rear entrance of the building I work in. My average is about 600k to 900k all over northern Georgia.
I thought that 600k was really slow thats because I was using a G1, with the Vibrant 600k is plenty fast for what I use it for.
J3ST3RM4A3 said:
UMTS. What I find odd is that my phone will say I'm connected to HSPDA but then after a moment it kicks over to UMTS..but overall, I get good speeds.
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UMTS is 384Kbps. It's safe to say that you're not really on UMTS 3G
jrwingate6 said:
Heres mine.... 4.5 MB/s down and 1.3 MB/s up
http://www.speedtest.net/android/7712264.png
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people, please understand that Mb and MB are not the same thing. You guys are getting 4.5 Mb not MB.
boodies said:
stop lying 2.2MegaBYTE/sec download over 3G? right. and 1.2MegaBYTE upload? wow
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Mb whatever makes you happy
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Mb whatever makes you happy
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it's not whatever makes me happy, it's about not making yourself look dumb. you're welcome
Guys,
Seems like Tmobile's advertised 4G network is really fast and Samsung hardware has proven better than the competition:
Original source...
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/10/4g-speed-tests-show-samsung-galaxy-s-4g-as-winner/
Image courtesy of Phandroid.com
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original thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948139
The link you posted is not related to the news link I posted...
anthonys2r said:
original thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948139
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try reading the title, and maybe even the post before saying random things
on topic:
Yea i guess tmobile has a good server... the Galaxy s 4G... hmm
can we take its radio and put it in ours?
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try reading the title, and maybe even the post before saying random things
on topic:
Yea i guess tmobile has a good server... the Galaxy s 4G... hmm
can we take its radio and put it in ours?
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maybe...but the radio wont account for the hardware difference between the two (new modem hardware in 4g)
Screw data - how's the GPS performance?
-bZj
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xriderx66 said:
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Yea i guess tmobile has a good server... the Galaxy s 4G... hmm
can we take its radio and put it in ours?
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That is what I'm going to find out when it comes out. I've heard rumors that all of 4G's hardware is all similar to the Vibe...
Cant wait to tinker that bad boy
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maybe...but the radio wont account for the hardware difference between the two (new modem hardware in 4g)
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From what I gather, thats all what's needed, just that modem... Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
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This hardly matters given T-mobile's poor 3G coverage compared to practically every competing major carrier in the US.
It's sort of like the Evo/Epic 4G. Yea, 4G was nice but it's not like I'll have it anytime soon. I'm waiting for Verizon and/or AT&T to launch LTE, or maybe go back to AT&T and get an HSPA+ device. All I need is about 1.5 mbps consistent download speeds and I'm more than happy, TBQH. It's just a phone.
They should make their coverrage better.
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They should make their coverrage better.
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Genius.
I get 3g.
Barely
N8ter said:
This hardly matters given T-mobile's poor 3G coverage compared to practically every competing major carrier in the US.
It's sort of like the Evo/Epic 4G. Yea, 4G was nice but it's not like I'll have it anytime soon. I'm waiting for Verizon and/or AT&T to launch LTE, or maybe go back to AT&T and get an HSPA+ device. All I need is about 1.5 mbps consistent download speeds and I'm more than happy, TBQH. It's just a phone.
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Yawn.
Lookie who's back to threadcrapping.
OK I get the want for 4g. I dont see the point in buying a phone with close to the same specs when we have such decent phones around the corner.
Galaxy s 4g is not worth the upgrade for a 2-3 seconds faster page loads. I will hold onto my Vibrant and my soon to be HD2 until the tegra 3 arrives next year.
I know that the Atrix will not be compatible with AT&T LTE. When comparing Verizon's LTE with ATT's HSPA+, Verizon blows it out of the water. While I know that HSPA+ will never be as fast as LTE, does anyone know if there are plans to improve the speed of HSPA+ on ATT? I think it's able to perform speeds of 14 mpbs but the reports I have seen actually put it at 2-4 mbps.
Thanks,
Matt
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I know that the Atrix will not be compatible with AT&T LTE. When comparing Verizon's LTE with ATT's HSPA+, Verizon blows it out of the water. While I know that HSPA+ will never be as fast as LTE, does anyone know if there are plans to improve the speed of HSPA+ on ATT? I think it's able to perform speeds of 14 mpbs but the reports I have seen actually put it at 2-4 mbps.
Thanks,
Matt
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They could very easily increase our speed, but the real question is "will they?".
It might be they are going to keep HSPA+ where it is because the network won't handle the volume of traffic, or might be because they want people to jump on LTE when they start that, (enthusiasts buying new LTE phones so they can utilize the faster speeds). in reality, we don't know, but can hope!
AT&T is slowly improving backhaul from what I hear. This should increase it pretty significantly, as T-Mobile is making similar improvements and seeing speeds in the 5+ mbps range. The most I've seen is 4.7 Mbps on my Atrix (up from 1.5 on my old Aria), so I know that the phone is capable of pretty significant speeds. The HSPA+ 14.4 radio on the Atrix is likely to top out at around 7-10 mbps once all the network improvements have been finished.
Most of the towers are fast enough already but they get bogged down easily by many more people using it than it can handle, when they increase bandwidth you'll see improvements
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AT&T is slowly improving backhaul from what I hear. This should increase it pretty significantly, as T-Mobile is making similar improvements and seeing speeds in the 5+ mbps range. The most I've seen is 4.7 Mbps on my Atrix (up from 1.5 on my old Aria), so I know that the phone is capable of pretty significant speeds. The HSPA+ 14.4 radio on the Atrix is likely to top out at around 7-10 mbps once all the network improvements have been finished.
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I almost broke 7 Mbps down this morning. Upload is a steady and consistent 1.2 Mbps.
I get 3.5 down and 1 up... I have no 4g here, at least that's what it says in about phone.
SIGH.
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Appologies for my ignorance, but what app are you using to measure speed?
Mgamerz said:
I get 3.5 down and 1 up... I have no 4g here, at least that's what it says in about phone.
SIGH.
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Appologies for my ignorance, but what app are you using to measure speed?
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Speedtest, pretty much the standard we all use:
Speedtest Mobile
If you use it, make sure to check settings and select the server closest to you. Speedtest can have a habit of picking a very distant server for you. Also, it sometimes pays to try different servers, as speed results will vary depending on the server and who runs it.
CaelanT said:
Speedtest, pretty much the standard we all use:
Speedtest Mobile
If you use it, make sure to check settings and select the server closest to you. Speedtest can have a habit of picking a very distant server for you. Also, it sometimes pays to try different servers, as speed results will vary depending on the server and who runs it.
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Just as a recommendation, if you get consistently varied results on the Speedtest app you can try different servers but also try http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/. It seems to give me far more consistent results, but I'm not sure about anyone else. The desktop page should load fine with that strong Flash support!
Yup, Speakeasy is another good one!
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tethering (hack) to my macbook air over wifi.