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4G speeds?

Here is the story: http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/17/its-twoo-its-twoo-4g-speed-is-a-reality/
Is it possible to develop and get us rooted users on 4G? I am a little uncertain of what the article is assuming.

i dont believe it but if its true... WOW

Yeah, Im not sure what a developer could do, to piggy back these speeds.

Hmmm.
1.3mbps on 4G? That's it? And which 4G? You mean Sprint's WiMAX? Or someone else's 4G network that has not been built yet?
I'm calling it. Shenanigans.

Breakthecycle2 said:
Here is the story: http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/17/its-twoo-its-twoo-4g-speed-is-a-reality/
Is it possible to develop and get us rooted users on 4G? I am a little uncertain of what the article is assuming.
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I am uncertain as well and those sure don't look like 4G speeds to me. However, I think there are hardware limitations that will prevent the N1 or any current phone from taking advantage of 4G. I don't believe it is equipped with the proper antenna and therefore maxed out at 7.2mbps

Interestin, thou by looking at dl speeds its not uncommon for me(I'm in Seattle) to get 1.5-2mb dl speeds, which is significantly faster then my DSL at home: )

e4604 said:
Interestin, thou by looking at dl speeds its not uncommon for me(I'm in Seattle) to get 1.5-2mb dl speeds, which is significantly faster then my DSL at home: )
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Yes but that's on 3G. 4G brings theoretical speeds up to 21mbps

I figured as much, and call it shenanigans aswell....thou i must say 21mb speeds on my n1would be awesome:drool: blah id settle for 5-7mb

Yeah I definitly call BS.

Gimpeh said:
Yeah I definitly call BS.
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I wouldn't call it BS yet....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648160

nazforex said:
I wouldn't call it BS yet....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648160
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Well look at that.

T-Mobile HSPA+ Speed Test
Here's an article about this
http://gizmodo.com/5493830/t+mobile-hspa%2B-speed-test-3g-gets-pumped-up-to-21mbps

jlevy73 said:
Yes but that's on 3G. 4G brings theoretical speeds up to 21mbps
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No, 21 Mb/s is still considered 3G,or 3.75G.

My 3g is faster.
Test Date: Mar 18, 2010 1:22:16 am
Connection Type: Cell
Download: 1452 kbps
Upload: 408 kbps
Ping: 168 ms
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Misuse of terms for standards makes unicorns cry.

i'm in Dallas and i'm getting stellar download speeds on T-Mo 3G, but uploads are a different story (see below). with 4G, would we see higher upload speeds as well???

There is no 4G on T-Mobile, not for a while, and our phones don't do 4G.

I'm not sure I would call 21mbps 4g (whatever that's supposed to mean). Here in Norway there is already a company that has a working LTE-network up and running (although only in the capital) and that has a theoretical top speed of 100mbps. Think the net is limited to 50mbps atm, but I've yet to meet anyone that has bought a modem (no, it's not compatible with current phones).

thepawn said:
There is no 4G on T-Mobile, not for a while, and our phones don't do 4G.
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adjectives, learn them, love them.

muncheese said:
adjectives, learn them, love them.
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Not sure what you are getting at?

HSPA+.....

Just got a text from T-Mobile saying HSPA+ is active in my city....Memphis, TN. Havent noticed in difference. Maybe I should do a speed test later.

maybe you need an actual HSPA+ phone.
and maybe they had activated it before they announced it

hspa+ is still faster than the 3g you prob had, so now you might get up to 7.2mbps.. so you could notice a difference even though we dont have hspa enable devices... this is the first time that we can recieve more data than the phone can handle...

scrizz said:
maybe you need an actual HSPA+ phone.
and maybe they had activated it before they announced it
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yeah i thought about that too. I have an upgrade so I am gonna get the G2 when it comes out. But i still wanna do some test with normal 3g versus HSPA+

Not sure if this is related but when i go to settings and about and signals its showing that im connected to umts (3g) but when i tether to my vibrant it goes to hspda (3.5g).
3g falling in the range of less than 7.2 around 3-4mbps and 3.5g around 5-7. Ive done a speed test.
speedtest.net /result /927922215.png
Im not sure if thats accurate info on the connection type. I also know speedtest sites are never accurate on speeds. Someone let me know.

All I care about is that hsdpa gets me down speeds rivaling my cable connection and up speeds beating my cable connection. 5.5/1
6? Don't need more.
Unless I am at home where tmo never gives me much signal love
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DriftorX said:
Not sure if this is related but when i go to settings and about and signals its showing that im connected to umts (3g) but when i tether to my vibrant it goes to hspda (3.5g).
3g falling in the range of less than 7.2 around 3-4mbps and 3.5g around 5-7. Ive done a speed test.
speedtest.net /result /927922215.png
Im not sure if thats accurate info on the connection type. I also know speedtest sites are never accurate on speeds. Someone let me know.
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I just did the speed test on my Vibrant and thats the speeds I am getting. Dont remember what I was getting before tho.

I live in an HSPA+ city, and I haven't logged above 1.35mbps on the old speed test (usually far less -- around .5). Is that just the way the cookie crumbles (signal strength, etc.) or is that freakishly slow? (Going by the numbers cited in this thread, it sure sounds slow...)

pavvy said:
I live in an HSPA+ city, and I haven't logged above 1.35mbps on the old speed test (usually far less -- around .5). Is that just the way the cookie crumbles (signal strength, etc.) or is that freakishly slow? (Going by the numbers cited in this thread, it sure sounds slow...)
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I get about 0.5 at home, but 4-5 at work.

I'm jealous! -- I get mostly EDGE at work...

pavvy said:
I'm jealous! -- I get mostly EDGE at work...
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I only get edge at home. I live right outside of the hspa network...

I'm about 45 mins outside of hspa/3g networks, on most days around town, I stay on 3g
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curious if your phones are showing the "H" icon at the top when you're pulling HSPDA+

larryccf said:
curious if your phones are showing the "H" icon at the top when you're pulling HSPDA+
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Nope. our phones are not HSPA phones, but T-Mobile says that most phones will get faster speeds.

No the h isn't turned on... Gotta check in settings... Only stock phone that shows h is the n1..
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Sprint Evo

Looks like the HSPA+ network to me. You didn't notice anything because you we're already on it. They only announce it after it has a good amount of coverage over the existing HSPA/3G network. It actually starts to come online far before they announce it. I noticed HSPA+ 2 months before they said it was live (outside of the strip where it was turned on during CES or CTIA)

acjames said:
Nope. our phones are not HSPA phones, but T-Mobile says that most phones will get faster speeds.
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thought our phones were HSPA, but not HSPA+ - are you sure they're not HSPA??
reason i asked, mine has shown the "H" icon where the 3G icon usually is, but only "blue moon" events and maybe for a few hours duration when it does (according to Tmo's map, i'm in a "moderate" coverage area, and in a shallow valley in that area)
on a couple of those occasions i pulled 5.4 - 5.6 Mbps speedtests where i normally pull 1.1 - 1.4Mbps

larryccf said:
reason i asked, mine has shown the "H" icon where the 3G icon usually is, but only "blue moon" events and maybe for a few hours duration when it does
on a couple of those occasions i pulled 5.4 - 5.6 Mbps speedtests where i normally pull 1.1 - 1.4Mbps
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Interesting. I havent noticed mine doing that. But i cant say i have paid much attention to it either tho.

Hspa vs Hspa+

I found it pretty interesting reading through Anandtechs Nexus S review when they compared speedtests in an Hspa+ zone between the Nexus S and MyTouch4g. His tests showed that the average dl/ul speeds in an Hspa+ area are virtually identical, obviously results will vary depending on your location but I think it speaks to how the technology itself works and what you can expect in real world use.
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Another thing of note is that the NS doesn't suffer from any sort of "death grip."

I used HSPA on my Vibrant last summer, and believe me it's fast enough. HSPA+ is just going to kill your battery faster, I can live without it.

HSPA 7.2 down
HSPA+ 14.4

rashad1 said:
I used HSPA on my Vibrant last summer, and believe me it's fast enough. HSPA+ is just going to kill your battery faster, I can live without it.
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Especially when we are talking about loading webpages. When it comes to large file transfers sure the extra speed is nice, but at this point with mobile phones, if you are doing large file tranfers you are probably on wifi.

slowz3r said:
HSPA 7.2 down
HSPA+ 14.4
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yup. I'm good with half the potential of current HSPA+ or even a third of what it will be. (22)
And i've never gotten above 2.0Mbps down on my nexus in south florida, so anything above that would be awesome.

neok44 said:
yup. I'm good with half the potential of current HSPA+ or even a third of what it will be. (22)
And i've never gotten above 2.0Mbps down on my nexus in south florida, so anything above that would be awesome.
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On average I get 6 megs down and 1.3 up on my N1
It should also be noted that MB/s does not represent true data transfer speed it would be kB/s and NOT kbps

slowz3r said:
On average I get 6 megs down and 1.3 up on my N1
It should also be noted that MB/s does not represent true data transfer speed it would be kB/s and NOT kbps
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damn your lucky. even with full bars and the H symbol on the notification bar i've never seen more than 2.3/1.0. Just another reason why i don't mind that the NS doesn't have HSPA+ since it'll be 2-3 years until t-mobile gets around to getting anything above 7.2 here.
I didn't have 3G on my G1 for almost 6 months took t-mobile so long to finally add 3g to south florida.

neok44 said:
damn your lucky. even with full bars and the H symbol on the notification bar i've never seen more than 2.3/1.0. Just another reason why i don't mind that the NS doesn't have HSPA+ since it'll be 2-3 years until t-mobile gets around to getting anything above 7.2 here.
I didn't have 3G on my G1 for almost 6 months took t-mobile so long to finally add 3g to south florida.
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Ya, wasnt Florida one of the last markets to get 3g?

slowz3r said:
Ya, wasnt Florida one of the last markets to get 3g?
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pretty much. Miami had it about 4-5 months before the rest of south florida, and shortly after the rest of the state followed. probably gonna be the same with 4G, so i don't expect to get it here for at least a year.

neok44 said:
pretty much. Miami had it about 4-5 months before the rest of south florida, and shortly after the rest of the state followed. probably gonna be the same with 4G, so i don't expect to get it here for at least a year.
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its okay ill send you some of my 4G's

ikon8 said:
I found it pretty interesting reading through Anandtechs Nexus S review when they compared speedtests in an Hspa+ zone between the Nexus S and MyTouch4g. His tests showed that the average dl/ul speeds in an Hspa+ area are virtually identical, obviously results will vary depending on your location but I think it speaks to how the technology itself works and what you can expect in real world use.
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Lolz. The G2 where I live can pull 10mbps and the Vibrant can pull 7.2mbps

im loving HSPA+ here in Miami/Ft Lauderdale

HSPA+ Improvement

I know that the Atrix will not be compatible with AT&T LTE. When comparing Verizon's LTE with ATT's HSPA+, Verizon blows it out of the water. While I know that HSPA+ will never be as fast as LTE, does anyone know if there are plans to improve the speed of HSPA+ on ATT? I think it's able to perform speeds of 14 mpbs but the reports I have seen actually put it at 2-4 mbps.
Thanks,
Matt

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I know that the Atrix will not be compatible with AT&T LTE. When comparing Verizon's LTE with ATT's HSPA+, Verizon blows it out of the water. While I know that HSPA+ will never be as fast as LTE, does anyone know if there are plans to improve the speed of HSPA+ on ATT? I think it's able to perform speeds of 14 mpbs but the reports I have seen actually put it at 2-4 mbps.
Thanks,
Matt
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They could very easily increase our speed, but the real question is "will they?".
It might be they are going to keep HSPA+ where it is because the network won't handle the volume of traffic, or might be because they want people to jump on LTE when they start that, (enthusiasts buying new LTE phones so they can utilize the faster speeds). in reality, we don't know, but can hope!

AT&T is slowly improving backhaul from what I hear. This should increase it pretty significantly, as T-Mobile is making similar improvements and seeing speeds in the 5+ mbps range. The most I've seen is 4.7 Mbps on my Atrix (up from 1.5 on my old Aria), so I know that the phone is capable of pretty significant speeds. The HSPA+ 14.4 radio on the Atrix is likely to top out at around 7-10 mbps once all the network improvements have been finished.

Most of the towers are fast enough already but they get bogged down easily by many more people using it than it can handle, when they increase bandwidth you'll see improvements
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estenh said:
AT&T is slowly improving backhaul from what I hear. This should increase it pretty significantly, as T-Mobile is making similar improvements and seeing speeds in the 5+ mbps range. The most I've seen is 4.7 Mbps on my Atrix (up from 1.5 on my old Aria), so I know that the phone is capable of pretty significant speeds. The HSPA+ 14.4 radio on the Atrix is likely to top out at around 7-10 mbps once all the network improvements have been finished.
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I almost broke 7 Mbps down this morning. Upload is a steady and consistent 1.2 Mbps.

I get 3.5 down and 1 up... I have no 4g here, at least that's what it says in about phone.
SIGH.
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Appologies for my ignorance, but what app are you using to measure speed?
Mgamerz said:
I get 3.5 down and 1 up... I have no 4g here, at least that's what it says in about phone.
SIGH.
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Bracemg said:
Appologies for my ignorance, but what app are you using to measure speed?
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Speedtest, pretty much the standard we all use:
Speedtest Mobile
If you use it, make sure to check settings and select the server closest to you. Speedtest can have a habit of picking a very distant server for you. Also, it sometimes pays to try different servers, as speed results will vary depending on the server and who runs it.

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Speedtest, pretty much the standard we all use:
Speedtest Mobile
If you use it, make sure to check settings and select the server closest to you. Speedtest can have a habit of picking a very distant server for you. Also, it sometimes pays to try different servers, as speed results will vary depending on the server and who runs it.
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Just as a recommendation, if you get consistently varied results on the Speedtest app you can try different servers but also try http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/. It seems to give me far more consistent results, but I'm not sure about anyone else. The desktop page should load fine with that strong Flash support!

Yup, Speakeasy is another good one!
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tethering (hack) to my macbook air over wifi.

4G Speeds!!

I generally get decent 4G speeds; anywhere from 3-5mbps down and 800-1400 kbps upload. I haven't checked in a while until today and I noticed my download speeds are significantly better. Not sure if it is just today, but I am averaging between 7-9 mbps download. Did anyone else notice better data speeds today?
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Hopefully Sprint did some work because my 4g is all over the place and if I'm lucky I can get 3mbps

I'd test if I could. I live in a "excellent" coverage area... but alas no 4G. Outside I'll barely be able to connect. Maybe 10-15s on "poor" signal strength.
Anyway, enjoy!

How do you test it?
Edit....figured it out
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet & Watch

My 4g Speed is awful below my 3g speeds and i can never stay connected more then 30 seconds.
I live in seattle which is suppose to have good coverage

People with Wimax issues:
Do you have the wimax latest radio version?
Have you tested wimax in your area on a different phone?
Also, Clearwire maintains wimax, not Sprint.

I live in Kansas City, so i get pretty good 4g coverage almost everywhere. as far as speeds go im typically hitting 10mbps. sometimes as low as the upper 7s

at work i can usually hit 15mbps, I'll post pics. My friend has a T-bolt and always gets so jealous haha. But I've heard Boise was one of the first to get 4g, idk why

According to Sprints coverage map I live in an excellent 4g area, now in real life that is not true. I called them not to long ago about my lack of 4g an connection issues and they did a service call, recorded radio numbers signal strength and all that jazz. A few days later I get a call from Sprint saying that the area I live in does not receive 4g very well (duh) and they notified Clear Wire about the issue etc. etc.
In short I live in a ****ty area but their (Sprint) map shows this magic blanket of 4g coverage that is not accurate by any standard. I have all the latest and greats radios etc but its just a no go for me. Sorry end of rant.

4G is available all over my city except a 2 block radius around my house.... F YOU SPRINT...Reception is complete crap at my house that I have to Force Roaming too...

According to Sprint I live outside a 4G area. But when I'm upstairs in my bedroom I can parely pull in a signal. It was enough to save me last night though. Comcast came in for a preinstall and accidentally cut my Verizon line, so I have no hardline internet at the moment. Its nice to have at least some connection to the outside world in the meantime.

I live in Phoenix, Az and we have no 4G out here.... I wonder if and when they will turn on the 4G out here. I hate paying the extra 10.00 a month and I cant use the 4G

Well I don't know how to post pics on here but my test says
8/18/2011
Download 8007 kbps
Upload 1447 kbps
Ping 211 ms
Is this good?..
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet & Watch, evO²·³·³

the drugstore said:
I live in Phoenix, Az and we have no 4G out here.... I wonder if and when they will turn on the 4G out here. I hate paying the extra 10.00 a month and I cant use the 4G
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I thought they had a tower or two of 4g in Phoenix? Check clear.com coverage maps.