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Nexus 4 Camera Tweak, Coming Soon ?

Hey there,
I know that the Nexus 4 is an aweome phone...
But I took some pictures recently and the quality is Okay.
I am coming from a One X, and we had a Camera Mod that made the pictures awesome.
I was wondering if we could see a similar mod coming on the Nexus 4?
Here are some pictures that I took
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As you can see, it's just okay... I'd say below average...
I'm not complaining, it's a $299 phone and I'm happy with it... Just think that some tweaks or mods could make it better

Nice ride

Im hoping that some like the sensation 4g camera mod comes out, that would be nice

M2oSa said:
Hey there,
I know that the Nexus 4 is an aweome phone...
But I took some pictures recently and the quality is Okay.
I am coming from a One X, and we had a Camera Mod that made the pictures awesome.
I was wondering if we could see a similar mod coming on the Nexus 4?
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As someone pointed out to me, HTC, Samsung, etc. and their respective "skins" (Sense, TouchWiz) are what pack those image capturing features. Google has much less invested into the camera scene than say, HTC with their "ImageSense" technology.
Could Google fix this? I suppose, though I don't know if they will. I've pondered the same questions as yourself.
My N4 is still on backorder, though I've been wondering what affect using something like CameraZoom FX would have. The N4's camera hardware is top notch, it's the software that's lacking. Maybe an app fixes that some, maybe not (I've yet to try).
Another thought is download Snapseed (used it, love it). I would think the stock N4 camera software + Snapseed would yield pleasant photos (but again, I do not have mine yet and am unable to perform any of these tests).

yea camera could be a bit better.

munchy_cool said:
Nice ride
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Thanks
stefan.buddle said:
Im hoping that some like the sensation 4g camera mod comes out, that would be nice
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Oh yeah, I had on my Sensation 4G as well, I saw a real improvment !
clayjohn said:
As someone pointed out to me, HTC, Samsung, etc. and their respective "skins" (Sense, TouchWiz) are what pack those image capturing features. Google has much less invested into the camera scene than say, HTC with their "ImageSense" technology.
Could Google fix this? I suppose, though I don't know if they will. I've pondered the same questions as yourself.
My N4 is still on backorder, though I've been wondering what affect using something like CameraZoom FX would have. The N4's camera hardware is top notch, it's the software that's lacking. Maybe an app fixes that some, maybe not (I've yet to try).
Another thought is download Snapseed (used it, love it). I would think the stock N4 camera software + Snapseed would yield pleasant photos (but again, I do not have mine yet and am unable to perform any of these tests).
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Will try some of these apps ! Didn't know about them ! Thanks for the input
sotorious said:
yea camera could be a bit better.
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Waaaay better

Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553
There's somebody modding a file for making better videos. Maybe it's the same for modding better photos?

s60mike said:
Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553
There's somebody modding a file for making better videos. Maybe it's the same for modding better photos?
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No this is gonna be the same as the nexus 7 video hack, it was 420p to 720p or something like that but it doesn't change anything with taking pictures.
I'm actually pretty happy with the camera, most point and shoot works this way, hell even photos taken from a dslr looks bland without at least light editing.
Better front camera would be nice.
Umm, does anybody know if the is a physical button to use to take pictures?
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clayjohn said:
As someone pointed out to me, HTC, Samsung, etc. and their respective "skins" (Sense, TouchWiz) are what pack those image capturing features. Google has much less invested into the camera scene than say, HTC with their "ImageSense" technology.
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That's tha advantage of HTC and Samsung. They have image enhancing software to make their pictures better.
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I bought the Camera FX yesterday, hope it makes a difference. Will keep you guys posted !

i very much hope this is something that is on Google's list for KLP along with display calibration. those are 2 things that can see further improvements, and would make the Nexus one hell of an overkill phone.

Anubis007 said:
i very much hope this is something that is on Google's list for KLP along with display calibration. those are 2 things that can see further improvements, and would make the Nexus one hell of an overkill phone.
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i just rma'd my phone due to weird camera issues. It would launch into camera app and the screen would become unresponsive. strange.
i do know google barely touched the camera and the pictures that come out were pretty untouched. Also as we can see video recording is at a super low bitrate (???? not sure why they would make that decision)
hopefully this update fixes some of the weird issues where the camera constantly autofocuses and the focus ring stays on the picture after you take it

The camera isn't a strong point on the N4. The colors look very washed out.

Google may already know that their image quality isn't the best, thus their interest in the Kodak patent portfolio. It appears as though a number of these patents have already been licensed to other phone manufacturers like Samsung, LG, and Nokia.

and hot damn that LED flash is bright indoors. Most of the indoor shots I take end up people cowering away with the light!

Yeah, the pics I took with flash in the dark just messed the pics up. The flash was too bright or the timing was off.

emailrob said:
and hot damn that LED flash is bright indoors. Most of the indoor shots I take end up people cowering away with the light!
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That's one of the things that I'd like to be see fixed with some sort of mod, and I think it'd be reasonable to expect that it wouldn't be so far-fetched that it's not worth someone's time. In other words, I hope it's easy enough to do that someone does it.
Does anyone have any tips for getting the shutter to focus on where you've tapped it, instead of it going berserk and focus-unfocus-focus-unfocus-focus ad nausem?

OP, I highly recommend you take down the pictures with your license plate present and check if the uploader you used to host these pics scrubs meta info (gps coordinates etc). If you uploaded directly from your phone, the meta info is probably still available.
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get prohdr app. i got the app for my ipod touch 4 which had a crappy camera and it made my pics look awesome. it should help your nexus 4 camera too.

Hey why can't somebody port over HTC one x photo software for the nexus 4? Idk if this is hard or not because I never ported anything so Yea just a suggestion
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[Review] Find 5: A great surprise!

So I just got my hands on the device a couple hours ago, and this is so great I felt the need to write a review immediately.
When I heard the name "oppo", and saw that company from China, I wasn't expecting something spectacular. It had good specs on the paper, but in my mind I was thinking "Meh, it will be just a blown up chinese device". Well, I'm glad to say I was wrong!
The package
Opened the first cardboard box. This first one looked like a shoebox, pretty amusing at first, and inside is contained the actual device box. And there came the first great surprise: it's already original. The box actually unfolds, seated by a magnet. You then get your eyes on the phone, and under it you can find the classic accessories (earbuds, charger, USB) PLUS! Two programmable NFC tags. Nice little gift.
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The device itself
The device itself is pretty standard:
- On the top of the front, you can find the front camera, earpiece, and a notification LED. Other sensors are pretty hidden, which make it very clean. On the bottom, 3 touch keys that light up when the screen is on (and they're otherwise invisible), from left to right Menu, Home and Back. Since I'm used to Nexus 4 touchkeys, the back key is on the other side.
- The back is also clean, similar to some HTCs. A simple and small camera sensor on the top, a tiny hole for the 2nd microphone next to it, a big speaker at the bottom, and that's it. There's a subtle "oppo" logo written in the middle, and I'm wondering right now if they shouldn't rotate that logo, as it's written vertically, thus you're not sure if it's "oddo" or "oppo", especially if you're holding it in landscape the wrong way.
- On the left side, the SIM tray, similar (if not exactly the same) to the Nexus 4 one ; you need a small extractor tool to open it, and under it the power button.
- On the right side, just the two volume buttons.
On the top lays the headphone jack, and the USB on the bottom.
All the buttons feels super sturdy and well-made, there's little to no jankiness. A sturdy device. The design is original and you cannot say "what's that iPhone" when seeing it.
Turning it on
Duuh, a boot sound, I hate that.
Okay first, the screen is GORGEOUS. I never had the chance to see another 1080p screen in a phone yet, but the Find 5's one is definitely one of the best screens I've seen. It doesn't have burning colors like AMOLED, and has just the right contrast. The viewing angles are way better than Nexus 4's (which gives blue if you look from one side, or yellow from another side), to put it straight there's simply no color offset at all from any angle. There a very small contrast increase when you look from the bottom or the top at a high angle, but you really have to be looking for it. The resolution is just great, it's beautiful.
Classic connectivity. I don't have my SIM card in yet, but it has all the things you'd need: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC (with a little tool to write some features to the provided tags), support for Wi-Fi Display, Wi-Fi Direct, etc. Of course, they use the normal NFC protocol, so you can Beam with your friends having a Nexus. The Wi-Fi reception seems pretty good, no loss of speed anywhere in my house.
Now, one big downside, the software. Actually, it feels like TouchWiz, and god knows I hate TouchWiz. It's like having a Galaxy S, with iOS-like icons (rounded glossy squares) and the same exact style of app drawer. The settings menu has been revamped, and it's a big mess. Everything feels just unsorted and messy, there no logical way to find out a particular option. And the Developer Settings menu lacks 90% of options.
The notification bar puts Wi-Fi and 3G on the left, notifications on the right (just like an iPhone). The top of the notification drawer is the Jelly Bean one, and JUST underneath you get gray gradients with quick settings icons (just like TouchWiz, again), and a old-style notification list, with the clear button at the bottom.
In the gallery, the Android's Action Bar has been removed to put a small shortcuts bar at the bottom, iOS-styled once again. The contacts app is also TouchWizy.
You can find some extra features in the settings, like gestures and motions to pick up a call.
There sure are some good ideas from Oppo's software designers, but they really took a direction waaaay too straight towards iOS (now, did I say TouchWiz because I'm not used to see them on an iPhone originally? Heh). Take the same color scheme, but with Holo design, and you'll be an epic win for me.
Wait, it's not all! Camera time!
From what I could see previously, it's no surprise that the Camera software is also not spectacular. It has that same iPhone inspiration, and both the UI and UX are very perfectible. The settings cannot be naturally scrolled, and it's a bit bad to use.
However, the Camera hardware is pretty great, at least on the video part. You can record the classic 480p, 720p and 1080p resolutions with the back camera, and 120fps video in either slow-motion or at regular speed in 480p resolution. This is something never seen before, and sports fan will probably like it, as you can record things moving fast in a smooth slow-motion.
The front camera allows recording in 720p, and has a pretty good lighting.
For pictures, even though both front and back support HDR, the quality is not spectacular. It's in the range of most phones, at least in medium-low light. The image is pretty noisy and grainy, and a bit blurry even when focusing as best as possible.
A sample from the back camera (click to enlarge):
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Wrap-up
From a hardware point of view, the Find 5 is really awesome: great SoC (same as Nexus 4) with 2GB RAM, superb screen, nice speakers, notification LED, nice camera, original design, and the touchkeys are ideally positioned. It's a sturdy device, that tells you "I can live forever".
However, the software really lacks polishing (but CyanogenMod will take care of that, hehe). You can smell the iPhone inspiration everywhere, and it just breaks the Android experience as all the other apps behave differently than the system. Some apps like the Settings app has been revamped and became a mess, but there are some nice ideas like the Files app, having an okay design, and cool features like FTP or DLNA.
All in all, that's a 8.5/10 for me, because I know the software won't last long on my device. It's really worth the price. The back camera could be a little bit better when it comes to pictures, and a little refinement of the device shape (especially some edges) would make it even better, but I'm nitpicking.
If you want it, don't hesitate, you should get it.

Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
Ty

Aerys said:
Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
Ty
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Of course, I want that device to be my Nexus 4 Plus.

XpLoDWilD said:
Of course, I want that device to be my Nexus 4 Plus.
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I help you test

Aerys said:
Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
Ty
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Unless we run into some horrible unforeseen obstacle, yes.

Where you guys bought the oppo?

Aerys said:
Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Normally, Chinese manufacturers set up us teh bomb
Instead...
oppo set up us teh free device
I'm not quite ready for a review yet - But here's some observations regarding their software, from a development perspective:
First, a bit of background - Qualcomm devices are almost always derived, to some degree, from Qualcomm's reference source at CodeAurora, aka CAF.
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/
A good way to determine which CAF release tag a manufacturer used was to check out various tags from https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=summary , drop the manufacturer's source release on top, and find the CAF tag that produces the smallest diff after dropping the source on top.
A list of CAF tags (which can sometimes be quite outdated, but is good enough for our purposes) is at https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/release
In the case of the Find5 - they derived from CAF tag A8064AAAAANLYA101034 - which is fairly old (October 2012). It's on branch jb_rel_rb4 Oppo didn't merge in upstream CAF changes at all in the interim. Sony's Xperia Z kernels were based on A8064AAAAANLYA1334, which is only about a month newer date-wise, but is at least Android 4.1.2 instead of 4.1.1
A8064AAAAANLYA101034 is a tag along the jb_rel_rb4 branch
Oppo's kernel produces a diff against the base CAF tag that is only about 583k in size - this is pretty small (good news!)
I'm in the process of pushing these diffs as a reference to https://github.com/Entropy512/kernel_find5_reference - NOTE: I will NOT be doing any development in that particular repo, AND I may rebase it periodically. It is for REFERENCE ONLY.
Attached is a complete patchset against the above tag, generated using
Code:
git format-patch
EDITED: Previously I thought the base CAF tag was A8064AAAAANLYA103010 - this is wrong.

Thanks for the review xplodwold! Its kinda cool to hear your take on it.

Aerys said:
Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Oppostyle.com..or amazon
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So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Aerys said:
Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Coreym said:
Oppostyle.com..or amazon
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also ibuygou.com

chrmhoffmann said:
So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Yep
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detritu5 said:
also ibuygou.com
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Stick to official stores for warranty.

First off, a great review which is killing me more as I'm waiting for DHL to update my tracking info. The best is that the future is looking bright for this device in the ROM department, thanks guys!:good:

chrmhoffmann said:
So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Bootloader seems wide open.
Biggest "quirk", which doesn't take too long to figure out, is that you need to add Oppo's USB vendor ID (0x22d9) to ~/.android/adb_usb.ini (that's on Linux, not sure which Windows/MacOS equivalents are...)

Entropy512 said:
Bootloader seems wide open.
Biggest "quirk", which doesn't take too long to figure out, is that you need to add Oppo's USB vendor ID (0x22d9) to ~/.android/adb_usb.ini (that's on Linux, not sure which Windows/MacOS equivalents are...)
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That's interesting. Maybe that's why we were having so much problem to get adb working
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please xplodwild, make us a cyano rom...oppo rom is so s.hitty and buggy :crying:

chrmhoffmann said:
So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Yes ,yes ,yes ,yes and yes .

What a great news, I'm a oppo find 5 owner, now very pleased by your great job to bring us third part ROM!!!!!

I've taken a break from find5 to try and get camera working on the Sony Xperia Z using a trick pointed out to me by one of the other CM maintainers.
If this works, it means that instead of starting with a massive kernel rebase, we can use the same approach the Z maintainers are currently using for their bringup (bring patches from mako into the factory kernel) and then do a major kernel rebase later.
The method used to do bringup on the Z is much faster, however it was previously thought it would not be possible to get camera working without some major hacks. Now it looks like there may be an easier (although still a bit hacky...) solution - if it works on the Z, that'll be a good path to go on this device.

Broken HDR and bad quality camera in AOSP ROMs

Guys, i don't know how many of you had the time to properly test the camera in any AOSP roms, but look at this.
First photo was taken with poor light and Stock ROM and camera, second photo was taking with similar poor light using a AOSP rom and Google Camera:
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I had to disable HDR to take the second picture, if i enable HDR in the camera using a AOSP rom the picture gets REALLY dark, almost black.
Looks to me there is something wrong with the camera implementation for AOSP roms, i dont expect the same quality as stock but HDR seems to be completely broken.
Have you tried this? It would be great to have other user's feedback to provide the devs with more information.
Remember to test in poor light conditions, where HDR would make a difference.

luizffgarcia said:
Guys, i don't know how many of you had the time to properly test the camera in any AOSP roms, but look at this.
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Man, you just made me hungry with that photo! Not fair!
Anyways, AOSP may not always be the better camera, which sucks. Until they figure out how to make it work better, you might be stuck with the bad pictures.
I've even seen this happen when installing 3rd party cameras on AOSP. It still doesn't work. It might have something to do with something else within the AOSP code-base.

iBolski said:
I've even seen this happen when installing 3rd party cameras on AOSP. It still doesn't work. It might have something to do with something else within the AOSP code-base.
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Camera drivers are not, and will never be, released by LG. Hence all not-stock Roms will have an inferior camera. Will not change.

Pfeffernuss said:
Camera drivers are not, and will never be, released by LG. Hence all not-stock Roms will have an inferior camera. Will not change.
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I don't think nothing can be changed. I used AOSP roms for many years and my two last phones had HDR working fine.
We may never have the exact same quality as Stock but that doesn't mean we will never have HDR working.

luizffgarcia said:
I don't think nothing can be changed.
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LG will never release the camera drivers, never.
We may never have the exact same quality as Stock but that doesn't mean we will never have HDR working.
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Where do I say that? I only say the quality will always be inferior. Numerous apps already have more functions than stock. Only issue is the quality is, much, lower.

Pfeffernuss said:
LG will never release the camera drivers, never.
Where do I say that? I only say the quality will always be inferior. Numerous apps already have more functions than stock. Only issue is the quality is, much, lower.
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I get that LG will never release the drivers, what i am saying is we may not need the drivers to be released to fix the HDR camera implementation.
Like i said, i don't expect the quality to be the same as stock, ever, but this is the first phone i owned in which i am unable to use HDR in AOSP roms, this may be fixable, that's all

i have to say that on LG G2 aosp camera got always better over time, i hope this will here be the same.
i could remember a stock camera port on LG G2, maybe some talented dev should try the same for the G3.

I switched between AOSP and Stock a few times and tested the camera more thoroughly , after the tests i could not stay with AOSP anymore, the difference is way too big.
I am talking to a few devs about this bug but they don't seem to be interested. People seem to think the camera is fine, even thou we don't have HDR...

We need to get someone like [email protected] interested - perhaps a bounty or something. BTW, has anyone tried the CM11S CameraNext ?

sandys1 said:
We need to get someone like [email protected] interested - perhaps a bounty or something. BTW, has anyone tried the CM11S CameraNext ?
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I am contacting a few devs about this issue, please do the same if you can, its just a matter of finding the right person.
I have tried a few different apps, but the app is just the top tier, i think the driver implementation is broken or something like that, all apps will behave the same.

luizffgarcia said:
I am contacting a few devs about this issue, please do the same if you can, its just a matter of finding the right person.
I have tried a few different apps, but the app is just the top tier, i think the driver implementation is broken or something like that, all apps will behave the same.
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Ur right.. The driver is custom to the way the stock kernel behaves. So the only to use it in aosp ROMs is to port the kernel to use the driver.
This is actually why stock Linux drivers are reusable and android is not.
I have very less hope of this happening though

Hi, everybody!
The camera stuff about AOSP and the G3 it's a shame. On one hand I love the AOSP concept, specially with the Lollipop iteration. It's purer, smother and more beautiful in its simplicity than any Stock ROM. But on the other hand, the camera is one of the best and most avance features in the G3. In my opinion, converting this wonderful camera into a bad one, similar to any other we can find in a low-end device is something I can't just deal with. I hope that it's a question of time that this situation will be solve.
Until then we have amazing custom ROMS, based on stock LG software that we can use. Of course they are not AOSP, but they are much better than the original version.
With chupachups 3.0 my phone get more than 41000 points in Antutu. I remember that with the original software the score was about 25000. It´s much faster and smoother than the original one, and completely stable... zero issues. And you don't have to sacrifice the camera quality at all. The best of both worlds.
Here you are the link to this great ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-chupachups-rom-t2941412

chejofan said:
Hi, everybody!
The camera stuff about AOSP and the G3 it's a shame. On one hand I love the AOSP concept, specially with the Lollipop iteration. It's purer, smother and more beautiful in its simplicity than any Stock ROM. But on the other hand, the camera is one of the best and most avance features in the G3. In my opinion, converting this wonderful camera into a bad one, similar to any other we can find in a low-end device is something I can't just deal with. I hope that it's a question of time that this situation will be solve.
Until then we have amazing custom ROMS, based on stock LG software that we can use. Of course they are not AOSP, but they are much better than the original version.
With chupachups 3.0 my phone get more than 41000 points in Antutu. I remember that with the original software the score was about 25000. It´s much faster and smoother than the original one, and completely stable... zero issues. And you don't have to sacrifice the camera quality at all. The best of both worlds.
Here you are the link to this great ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-chupachups-rom-t2941412
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Yep, i agree!
Problem is, i have a D852 (Canadian variant), so the only custom stock based ROM i can run is Cloudy 1.2

luizffgarcia said:
Yep, i agree!
Problem is, i have a D852 (Canadian variant), so the only custom stock based ROM i can run is Cloudy 1.2
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What about Cloudy 2.0 (Lollipop)? . It has been just released!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467

chejofan said:
What about Cloudy 2.0 (Lollipop)? . It has been just released!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467
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I am watching that closely, but there is still no support for D852...

If onyone is looking for the best camera app available for AOSP roms, this is it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522889&page=31
Just follow the updates on the last pages, the devs are still working on it and the pictures are stock like.

luizffgarcia said:
If onyone is looking for the best camera app available for AOSP roms, this is it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522889&page=31
Just follow the updates on the last pages, the devs are still working on it and the pictures are stock like.
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Could you make a comparison photo stock lollipop vs AOSP w/ this camera app?
Or just sample photos with the camera app?
The crappy camera quality is the only thing keeping me away from AOSP ROMs (I'm an Instagram freak lol)

WIIstpM said:
Could you make a comparison photo stock lollipop vs AOSP w/ this camera app?
Or just sample photos with the camera app?
The crappy camera quality is the only thing keeping me away from AOSP ROMs (I'm an Instagram freak lol)
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I am really out of time to rollback to stock to take a comparison picture now but i did it when i first found this app, take my word for it the picture quality is as good as stock even in low light, the only problem is the UI because the dpis are different.
There are devs working on this thou, we should have a improved UI very soon.

luizffgarcia said:
I am really out of time to rollback to stock to take a comparison picture now but i did it when i first found this app, take my word for it the picture quality is as good as stock even in low light, the only problem is the UI because the dpis are different.
There are devs working on this thou, we should have a improved UI very soon.
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Thanks for your feedback! one more reason pushing me to AOSP then No one has yet posted a photo sample though haha
The only missing things will be QuickCircle but that could be impossible since it's embedded in Lg's Framework.

WIIstpM said:
Thanks for your feedback! one more reason pushing me to AOSP then No one has yet posted a photo sample though haha
The only missing things will be QuickCircle but that could be impossible since it's embedded in Lg's Framework.
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Look at this link, the photos are not mine but they show clearly the difference:
http://imgur.com/a/FZVSn

Foto Comparison

You may be wondering about the different quality pictures on AOSP ROM vs Stock. Certainly, there are way to improve the quality on AOSP, and my short experience the best way to do it is porting the LG G2 camera to one of these ROMS. However, I have felt always that not matter what you do or try the quality of the photos taken with a LG G3 Stock Camera is much, much better. So this the aim of these thread. I want to show you the different results obtained using different Camera-ROM combinations:
1) Stock Cyanogenmod 12 Camera
2)G2 Camera ported on Cyanogenmod 12
3)G3 camera on Stock ROM (Cloudy 2.0)
As far as you can see the photos taken with the LG G3 Stock ROM are much better: less noise, more detailed and warmer and more natural colors.
Thanks to all that made this comparison possible
The great LG G3 CM 12 team: @AngelBob, @invisiblek, @AndroidUser00110001, @sooti, @manups4e
@Cloudyfa, the amazing developer behind the best G3 ROM (Cloudy 2.0)
@Skin1980, the genius that made possible MultIROM in our device, one of the milestones in the G3 development.
@sefnap, the nice guy that allowed to port the G2 camera to AOSP, the best way to take good pictures in these ROMs.
I hope you find this comparison helpful. If so, please, push the thanks button. I'm new on the forum, and nothing makes me happier that seeing my Thank Meter increasing. :fingers-crossed:
Thanks for your attention and time.

Grate post, and very useful. The most of people stay with stock rom only because of camera quality. I like photos and beside phone design, thats the reason why i bought this phone.
I think it will be better to compare images with 100% zoom at same image. I created images so you can compare.
Notice: this can be 100% compared only if shoots was taken from same position while phone is standing on steady object. Anyway, its good to know the difference witch is a lot important for me.
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Grate post, and very useful. The most of people stay with stock rom only because of camera quality. I like photos and beside phone design, thats the reason why i bought this phone.
I think it will be better to compare images with 100% zoom at same image. I created images so you can compare.
Notice: this can be 100% compared only if shoots was taken from same position while phone is standing on steady object. Anyway, its good to know the difference witch is a lot important for me.
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Good work! Thanks.

Hey. I'm on cm12. And I have very good qualy photos on validus ROM. Not good as stock but wit google camera very good photos I can shoot. I'll upload them when I can. And one more thing. Fv5 camera app is the worts I have ever seen. I try it on cm12.
Which app did you use on cm12?

losthero15 said:
Hey. I'm on cm12. And I have very good qualy photos on validus ROM. Not good as stock but wit google camera very good photos I can shoot. I'll upload them when I can. And one more thing. Fv5 camera app is the worts I have ever seen. I try it on cm12.
Which app did you use on cm12?
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I am also trying to find some free time, to install 5-6 applications and compare them. If you take shoots and check only on the phone, every photo look good.
I saw that ported G2 camera have the closes to the stock as it was supposed to be.

losthero15 said:
Hey. I'm on cm12. And I have very good qualy photos on validus ROM. Not good as stock but wit google camera very good photos I can shoot. I'll upload them when I can. And one more thing. Fv5 camera app is the worts I have ever seen. I try it on cm12.
Which app did you use on cm12?
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Hi! On CM12 I tried AOSP Stock Camera and afterwards a ported the "bumped" G2 camera to the ROM. I took some series of pictures in order to compare the AOSP to the G2 camera, and the quality was much better with the last one, specially in low light conditions, when it was much less noise using the G2 camera. I was in CM and derivatives (AICP, RR, for some weeks), and I tried a lot different cameras (Google, Lenovo, FV-5). These two worked far better than AOSP camera. However I found that for a AOSP ROMs, the better pictures were taking using the G2 camera. But even this one is no close to Stock LG G3 camera, so I'm now back to Stock.
Certainly the camera is not the only reason. With Cloudy ROM, I have and incredibly battery life (more than two days on normal use), amazing performance (43k on Antutu), stability and everything just working. To sum up, I'd say that with Cloudy my device is a better device.
I do love Cyanogenmod and all the others AOSP ROM, but all these ROM, at this moment, don't work as well as Stock. They may be worthy if your using a Nexus o Google Edition device or if your device is not longer supported. But I think, that if we are speaking about high end device (G3, Note 4, etc), it's a better idea to stay Stock, because otherwise you will miss a lot of features.
Coming back to Cloudy, the only thing that I miss of CM is the UI. I love material design and the original idea of Google. It's the simply most beautiful and well designed OS ever. Unfortunately, the LG implementation of Lollipop is not very good, because it's essentially the same that KitKat's. I really hope that this could change with the G4 arrival.

EmptySD said:
I am also trying to find some free time, to install 5-6 applications and compare them. If you take shoots and check only on the phone, every photo look good.
I saw that ported G2 camera have the closes to the stock as it was supposed to be.
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Yes. I agree

Wasn't there a dev trying to port STOCK G3 camera to AOSP?
How's it going?
I think once this is ported, lot of people will shift to CM/AOSP on this device... I'm one of those.

I've been using the moto x camera, http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-motorola-camera-5-0-7-1-material-t3007246 , and it's been extremely good for me, gives me quality pictures that seem to compare to stock. The app also takes advantage of the G3's laser focus which is cool?
I'm sorry I don't have the time or ability to test this camera vs. Other cameras that work on cm12 for the vs985, so I was just hoping to bring this app to your attention so you may, or may not, look into it yourself.

can you point me to the G2 ported camera?

smac7 said:
can you point me to the G2 ported camera?
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Yes, of course. Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522889

GFXi0N said:
Wasn't there a dev trying to port STOCK G3 camera to AOSP?
How's it going?
I think once this is ported, lot of people will shift to CM/AOSP on this device... I'm one of those.
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Hola, paisano!
I'm not sure, but I seemed to understand that even when G3 camera could be ported to AOSP ROMs, the pictures wouldn't be as good as on Stock, because of some LG proprietary drivers missing that need the stock kernel in order to work. That's why the G2 ported camera is no as good on AOSP as on LG G2 stock ROMs.
I may be wrong, but I'm afraid that you want AOSP and good pictures, the Nexus line is the only way.

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Hola, paisano!
I'm not sure, but I seemed to understand that even when G3 camera could be ported to AOSP ROMs, the pictures wouldn't be as good as on Stock, because of some LG proprietary drivers missing that need the stock kernel in order to work. That's why the G2 ported camera is no as good on AOSP as on LG G2 stock ROMs.
I may be wrong, but I'm afraid that you want AOSP and good pictures, the Nexus line is the only way.
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Oh i am waiting that moment. Quality differences are really huge. I hope that someone will find the way to port it.

chejofan said:
Hola, paisano!
I'm not sure, but I seemed to understand that even when G3 camera could be ported to AOSP ROMs, the pictures wouldn't be as good as on Stock, because of some LG proprietary drivers missing that need the stock kernel in order to work. That's why the G2 ported camera is no as good on AOSP as on LG G2 stock ROMs.
I may be wrong, but I'm afraid that you want AOSP and good pictures, the Nexus line is the only way.
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I come from nexus 4. Got it broken, MAPFRE was kind enough to cover the "accident" and replace the device with this LGG3....
I already made the jump, BTW, I'm already on CM12

[Discussion] The LG G5 discussion thread

Hello LG G5 users , feel free to talk here about anything related to the LG G5 :good:
Thread Rules
1. Respect the others
2. This is an LG G5 thread , do not talk about any other LG phone here.
3. Use appropriate langage.
4. And of course , respect xda rules.
So what do you think about this LG phone ?

Hi guys , thread opened thanks to @KennyG123 , now that the G5 is out and available for sale feel free to share your experience in this discussion thread.
I will update it later with infos , reviews , battery tests..etc.
Enjoy

This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.

@CorruptProfile Thank you very much sir for this first well detailed feedback.
How about other things like the camera , performance ( if you tried any intensive game ) ? Is it buttery smooth or LG 5.0 UX suffer from lags ?

CorruptProfile said:
This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.
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Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)

Killua96 said:
Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)
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It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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Soufiansky said:
It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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Nope, there is a third option shown in the UX 5.0 video and confirmed by T-Mobile users
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk8Zs3Mlbcs
Look at 2:19

I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.

CorruptProfile said:
I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.
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Thank you again for the feedback , when i come back home i will post the links you send me in pm

Thanks to @CorruptProfile
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How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?

Mew351 said:
How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.

Soufiansky said:
It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.
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I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me

Mew351 said:
I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/

Mew351 said:
How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.

Mew351 said:
The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/
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Note 5 ? Nexus 6P ? We're going in an off topic here...
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CorruptProfile said:
I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.
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What about the module thing ? I saw a lot of issues about it these days
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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.

CorruptProfile said:
I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.
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No i was talking about the stock battery module , you haven't faced any issue ? Because some people were reporting bad screen colors reproduction next to the module , others said it started taking off....etc.
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