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How Much Better Will The Note Be With ICS

Now that Samsung have officially confirmed that the Note will be one of the first to get the ICS update, what improvements will it make? Will it be worth while doing it for Note works very well on Gingerbread.

The most important for me, except other nice features, is that ics will optimized full the 2 cores of Note and improved more battery life.
Sent from the best smartphone, Galaxy Note...

I am sure ICS will fly on the Note. Full dual core optimisation is what I am wanting.
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the most SICK news it's "hardware acceleration"
we got much mote better GPU than Samsung Galaxy Nexus !
So our phone will ROCK !

i know they said ICS in Q1 but have they released a tentative date?. .
any ideas? .or patterns with samsung?

I hope they take their time releasing ICS. The fewer the bugs, the better for us
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i know they said ICS in Q1 but have they released a tentative date?. .
any ideas? .or patterns with samsung?
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I was talking to a Samsung rep on phone today and when i asked him about ICS, he said "Its already on ICS". So my next question was: "are you sure? cause i am on 2.3.6". He said "yeah what i meant was, since our nexus has it, it won't be long before the note gets it. No official dates as to when it comes" So, either a) he had no idea what he was talking about, or b) ICS is being tested on the note as we speak

what im waiting for is AOSP ICS rom or CM9 would do. The reason is FULL tablet interface, experience.

I'm wondering how much faster the camera will be. Romain Guy said that the zero shutter lag on the galaxy nexus is a combination of software+hardware optimisations, so it will be interesting to find out what kind of improvement we will get. At the moment it feels like there is 1 second between each of 1) Pressing the camera button, 2) The shutter noise and 3) actual photo taken. It's a bizarre experience.

It's gonna be LEGEND......
..wait for it....
....ARY!

wabz said:
I'm wondering how much faster the camera will be. Romain Guy said that the zero shutter lag on the galaxy nexus is a combination of software+hardware optimisations, so it will be interesting to find out what kind of improvement we will get. At the moment it feels like there is 1 second between each of 1) Pressing the camera button, 2) The shutter noise and 3) actual photo taken. It's a bizarre experience.
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The main reason they used a 5MP instead of an 8MP camera in the Galaxy Nexus was speed. Fewer pixels to process, fewer pixels to write to storage. Don't expect that kind of speed on the Note, or a GS2, etc when they get the ICS camera app.

To be honest, if you use the technique and aren't using the flash where you prepare the camera by pressing the shutter button first and then release when you want to take the picture then there is virtually no meaningful lag.

You definitely have a different note than me. The lag ducks. Do like the camera tho.
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To be honest, if you use the technique and aren't using the flash where you prepare the camera by pressing the shutter button first and then release when you want to take the picture then there is virtually no meaningful lag.
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Im hoping that ICS might correct my offset screen (s-pen, finger input) and somehow get rid of the pinkish huein the middle of the pictures i take.
If Dolohin HD crashed less that would be great.
Other than that, everything else would be gravy. I love my Note and I am now done with iphones. My son still has a 4gS but I cant even stand to look at it!
However, Im not one of those people who judge others. If you love iphones, more power to ya!

BeamMeUpStreaky said:
Im hoping that ICS might correct my offset screen (s-pen, finger input) and somehow get rid of the pinkish huein the middle of the pictures i take.
If Dolohin HD crashed less that would be great.
Other than that, everything else would be gravy. I love my Note and I am now done with iphones. My son still has a 4gS but I cant even stand to look at it!
However, Im not one of those people who judge others. If you love iphones, more power to ya!
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Ics should fix the spen problem, ics has stylus input already built in.

Yes having the spen more accurate would be a great new advantage of having ICS on Note..

I am still impressed by the speed of my note. With ICS if it gets better... Awesome!
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Ics should fix the spen problem, ics has stylus input already built in.
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I got sick of my pen making random selections and acting erratic. I had a fit lol amd ripped the button off the side of the pen. Problem solved. Its still offset and i despise that bur at least when i pass the pen over the screen it doesnt select something from and inch away from the screen. I will buy a new pen with no button function. Thr only thing i ever used the button for was screen caputure but i can do that easily with hone button + sleep button.
I notice that on some web pages when i want to click a link, i have to compensate by pressing higher that the hyper link with my finger or pen.
Samsung wants to have an s-pen smartphone... GET IT RIGHT. As far as finger touch goes, there is no excuse for having to press 2mm higher than the hyperlink. Thats a lack of screen calibration which i find ignorant.
Now if i could stop all of my browsers from closing abruptly i would be less angry about the screen calibration. My iphone browser has never closed on me, not on any of them.
Still love my phone though. However, i seem to be refering to it as the galaxy n7000 because between tje pen and the unforgivable lack of screen calibration, "Note" seems a like a title that it has yet to earn.

Strange, I have no spen inaccuracy problem.
However I would like to see:
1-Better camera picture quality,the sharpness in the taken pics really sucks.
2-faster,this is a must be addressed issue,the wakeup lag from the homebutton,the lag while opening applications specially the Contacts is just unforgivable for hardware with such specs.
3-I have no such issue in the Opera browser since its not hardware accelerated,but both Dolphin and stock browsers which support that feature crush a lot and suffer from battery drainage. This of course could be because gingerbread doesn't support that feature either.
Other than these three very important issues all is well on my front.!!

hagba said:
Strange, I have no spen inaccuracy problem.
However I would like to see:
1-Better camera picture quality,the sharpness in the taken pics really sucks.
2-faster,this is a must be addressed issue,the wakeup lag from the homebutton,the lag while opening applications specially the Contacts is just unforgivable for hardware with such specs.
3-I have no such issue in the Opera browser since its not hardware accelerated,but both Dolphin and stock browsers which support that feature crush a lot and suffer from battery drainage. This of course could be because gingerbread doesn't support that feature either.
Other than these three very important issues all is well on my front.!!
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Correct. Whilst it's not perfect the wake up lag is poor. Sometimes when opening sms messages or contacts/phonebook it takes upto 4 seconds which is unnacceptable!!!
It should be instantaneous...

im pretty excited about ics too exspecially about the new ui. I was looking through the features list and it didnt say any thing about it there but does any one know if the default mail app (not gmail) has push notifications
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
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I read the page but it didn't say anything about push email which is really important to me, i use yahoo mail as a default mail and i use the ymail app, not that there is anything wrong with it but i prefer the default email app as sometimes when you want to "share" something there is the message, Bluetooth, email and stuff but sometimes it doesn't have the share through yahoo mail app, plus the yahoo mail takes forever to 'attach' pictures and send.
I just wanted to know if you guys know anything about the push email on the default email app, i know the gmail app has it but im not switching to gmail
Another thing i would like to know is this:
Huge fan of reading ebooks, and note has a sexy screen perfect for reading books, and i love the ui the books are displayed above, can any one clarify if that is only for tablets, or is an app on the android market (checked the market and nothing) or will only be available on ics when it comes out
Also will the 'US' version of android market be available outside US on ics or we still got to root and then use market enabler?
Hope ICS comes out soon with as little bugs and and plenty of improvements possible!!

[Review] Find 5: A great surprise!

So I just got my hands on the device a couple hours ago, and this is so great I felt the need to write a review immediately.
When I heard the name "oppo", and saw that company from China, I wasn't expecting something spectacular. It had good specs on the paper, but in my mind I was thinking "Meh, it will be just a blown up chinese device". Well, I'm glad to say I was wrong!
The package
Opened the first cardboard box. This first one looked like a shoebox, pretty amusing at first, and inside is contained the actual device box. And there came the first great surprise: it's already original. The box actually unfolds, seated by a magnet. You then get your eyes on the phone, and under it you can find the classic accessories (earbuds, charger, USB) PLUS! Two programmable NFC tags. Nice little gift.
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The device itself
The device itself is pretty standard:
- On the top of the front, you can find the front camera, earpiece, and a notification LED. Other sensors are pretty hidden, which make it very clean. On the bottom, 3 touch keys that light up when the screen is on (and they're otherwise invisible), from left to right Menu, Home and Back. Since I'm used to Nexus 4 touchkeys, the back key is on the other side.
- The back is also clean, similar to some HTCs. A simple and small camera sensor on the top, a tiny hole for the 2nd microphone next to it, a big speaker at the bottom, and that's it. There's a subtle "oppo" logo written in the middle, and I'm wondering right now if they shouldn't rotate that logo, as it's written vertically, thus you're not sure if it's "oddo" or "oppo", especially if you're holding it in landscape the wrong way.
- On the left side, the SIM tray, similar (if not exactly the same) to the Nexus 4 one ; you need a small extractor tool to open it, and under it the power button.
- On the right side, just the two volume buttons.
On the top lays the headphone jack, and the USB on the bottom.
All the buttons feels super sturdy and well-made, there's little to no jankiness. A sturdy device. The design is original and you cannot say "what's that iPhone" when seeing it.
Turning it on
Duuh, a boot sound, I hate that.
Okay first, the screen is GORGEOUS. I never had the chance to see another 1080p screen in a phone yet, but the Find 5's one is definitely one of the best screens I've seen. It doesn't have burning colors like AMOLED, and has just the right contrast. The viewing angles are way better than Nexus 4's (which gives blue if you look from one side, or yellow from another side), to put it straight there's simply no color offset at all from any angle. There a very small contrast increase when you look from the bottom or the top at a high angle, but you really have to be looking for it. The resolution is just great, it's beautiful.
Classic connectivity. I don't have my SIM card in yet, but it has all the things you'd need: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC (with a little tool to write some features to the provided tags), support for Wi-Fi Display, Wi-Fi Direct, etc. Of course, they use the normal NFC protocol, so you can Beam with your friends having a Nexus. The Wi-Fi reception seems pretty good, no loss of speed anywhere in my house.
Now, one big downside, the software. Actually, it feels like TouchWiz, and god knows I hate TouchWiz. It's like having a Galaxy S, with iOS-like icons (rounded glossy squares) and the same exact style of app drawer. The settings menu has been revamped, and it's a big mess. Everything feels just unsorted and messy, there no logical way to find out a particular option. And the Developer Settings menu lacks 90% of options.
The notification bar puts Wi-Fi and 3G on the left, notifications on the right (just like an iPhone). The top of the notification drawer is the Jelly Bean one, and JUST underneath you get gray gradients with quick settings icons (just like TouchWiz, again), and a old-style notification list, with the clear button at the bottom.
In the gallery, the Android's Action Bar has been removed to put a small shortcuts bar at the bottom, iOS-styled once again. The contacts app is also TouchWizy.
You can find some extra features in the settings, like gestures and motions to pick up a call.
There sure are some good ideas from Oppo's software designers, but they really took a direction waaaay too straight towards iOS (now, did I say TouchWiz because I'm not used to see them on an iPhone originally? Heh). Take the same color scheme, but with Holo design, and you'll be an epic win for me.
Wait, it's not all! Camera time!
From what I could see previously, it's no surprise that the Camera software is also not spectacular. It has that same iPhone inspiration, and both the UI and UX are very perfectible. The settings cannot be naturally scrolled, and it's a bit bad to use.
However, the Camera hardware is pretty great, at least on the video part. You can record the classic 480p, 720p and 1080p resolutions with the back camera, and 120fps video in either slow-motion or at regular speed in 480p resolution. This is something never seen before, and sports fan will probably like it, as you can record things moving fast in a smooth slow-motion.
The front camera allows recording in 720p, and has a pretty good lighting.
For pictures, even though both front and back support HDR, the quality is not spectacular. It's in the range of most phones, at least in medium-low light. The image is pretty noisy and grainy, and a bit blurry even when focusing as best as possible.
A sample from the back camera (click to enlarge):
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Wrap-up
From a hardware point of view, the Find 5 is really awesome: great SoC (same as Nexus 4) with 2GB RAM, superb screen, nice speakers, notification LED, nice camera, original design, and the touchkeys are ideally positioned. It's a sturdy device, that tells you "I can live forever".
However, the software really lacks polishing (but CyanogenMod will take care of that, hehe). You can smell the iPhone inspiration everywhere, and it just breaks the Android experience as all the other apps behave differently than the system. Some apps like the Settings app has been revamped and became a mess, but there are some nice ideas like the Files app, having an okay design, and cool features like FTP or DLNA.
All in all, that's a 8.5/10 for me, because I know the software won't last long on my device. It's really worth the price. The back camera could be a little bit better when it comes to pictures, and a little refinement of the device shape (especially some edges) would make it even better, but I'm nitpicking.
If you want it, don't hesitate, you should get it.

Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
Ty

Aerys said:
Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
Ty
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Of course, I want that device to be my Nexus 4 Plus.

XpLoDWilD said:
Of course, I want that device to be my Nexus 4 Plus.
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I help you test

Aerys said:
Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
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Unless we run into some horrible unforeseen obstacle, yes.

Where you guys bought the oppo?

Aerys said:
Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Normally, Chinese manufacturers set up us teh bomb
Instead...
oppo set up us teh free device
I'm not quite ready for a review yet - But here's some observations regarding their software, from a development perspective:
First, a bit of background - Qualcomm devices are almost always derived, to some degree, from Qualcomm's reference source at CodeAurora, aka CAF.
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/
A good way to determine which CAF release tag a manufacturer used was to check out various tags from https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=summary , drop the manufacturer's source release on top, and find the CAF tag that produces the smallest diff after dropping the source on top.
A list of CAF tags (which can sometimes be quite outdated, but is good enough for our purposes) is at https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/release
In the case of the Find5 - they derived from CAF tag A8064AAAAANLYA101034 - which is fairly old (October 2012). It's on branch jb_rel_rb4 Oppo didn't merge in upstream CAF changes at all in the interim. Sony's Xperia Z kernels were based on A8064AAAAANLYA1334, which is only about a month newer date-wise, but is at least Android 4.1.2 instead of 4.1.1
A8064AAAAANLYA101034 is a tag along the jb_rel_rb4 branch
Oppo's kernel produces a diff against the base CAF tag that is only about 583k in size - this is pretty small (good news!)
I'm in the process of pushing these diffs as a reference to https://github.com/Entropy512/kernel_find5_reference - NOTE: I will NOT be doing any development in that particular repo, AND I may rebase it periodically. It is for REFERENCE ONLY.
Attached is a complete patchset against the above tag, generated using
Code:
git format-patch
EDITED: Previously I thought the base CAF tag was A8064AAAAANLYA103010 - this is wrong.

Thanks for the review xplodwold! Its kinda cool to hear your take on it.

Aerys said:
Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Oppostyle.com..or amazon
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So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Aerys said:
Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Coreym said:
Oppostyle.com..or amazon
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also ibuygou.com

chrmhoffmann said:
So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Yep
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detritu5 said:
also ibuygou.com
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Stick to official stores for warranty.

First off, a great review which is killing me more as I'm waiting for DHL to update my tracking info. The best is that the future is looking bright for this device in the ROM department, thanks guys!:good:

chrmhoffmann said:
So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Bootloader seems wide open.
Biggest "quirk", which doesn't take too long to figure out, is that you need to add Oppo's USB vendor ID (0x22d9) to ~/.android/adb_usb.ini (that's on Linux, not sure which Windows/MacOS equivalents are...)

Entropy512 said:
Bootloader seems wide open.
Biggest "quirk", which doesn't take too long to figure out, is that you need to add Oppo's USB vendor ID (0x22d9) to ~/.android/adb_usb.ini (that's on Linux, not sure which Windows/MacOS equivalents are...)
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That's interesting. Maybe that's why we were having so much problem to get adb working
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please xplodwild, make us a cyano rom...oppo rom is so s.hitty and buggy :crying:

chrmhoffmann said:
So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Yes ,yes ,yes ,yes and yes .

What a great news, I'm a oppo find 5 owner, now very pleased by your great job to bring us third part ROM!!!!!

I've taken a break from find5 to try and get camera working on the Sony Xperia Z using a trick pointed out to me by one of the other CM maintainers.
If this works, it means that instead of starting with a massive kernel rebase, we can use the same approach the Z maintainers are currently using for their bringup (bring patches from mako into the factory kernel) and then do a major kernel rebase later.
The method used to do bringup on the Z is much faster, however it was previously thought it would not be possible to get camera working without some major hacks. Now it looks like there may be an easier (although still a bit hacky...) solution - if it works on the Z, that'll be a good path to go on this device.

Nexus 5 HDR+ port?

Since the Nexus 5 has the new "HDR+" mode in it's camera, essentially an optimised HDR mode, would it be possible to port this to non Nexus 5 hardware? Specifically our Nexus 4? I haven't seen any thread asking a similar question or any attempted port of the mode. Some might say it's not worth it, but I personally notice great improvement with HDR enabled on most of my photos apart from the low lighters.
Since a few people tried, and sort of saw improvement, I got some motivation and am attempting my own port. I don't think it will ever be a flashable zip, but maybe some actual developer can convert it if I succeed. I promise nothing, but it'll be awesome if I or someone else gets somewhere
EDIT: I've got good enough reason to believe that the 4.4.1 software update introduced this algorithm already, since everyone is reporting HDR improvements on all ROMs with 4.4.1/2.
Thread isn't getting closed because if I'm wrong and someone has any ideas, I'm open.

dosent that uses some hardware resources witch are not avalaible on nexus 4?

I don't think so, its just an advanced image processing algorithm for merging the shots taken. Its like the GEL launcher, another random exclusive.
The nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus also have no shutter lag, the only lag is really down to the image processing itself since 5 mp and 8 mp shots taken take some time to get rendered fully
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dosent that uses some hardware resources witch are not avalaible on nexus 4?
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Only exclusive camera hardware I can think of is the OIS, but that shouldn't affect image processing since it's just an accelerometer and ball bearings that allows the camera to move around to reduce shaking during video
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RealSlimShadyMC said:
Only exclusive camera hardware I can think of is the OIS, but that shouldn't affect image processing since it's just an accelerometer and ball bearings that allows the camera to move around to reduce shaking during video
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ok, after xmas i will look into that.

opssemnik said:
ok, after xmas i will look into that.
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Cheers
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First, merry xmas all
As the OP suggested, i also believe that hdr+ is some sort of better algorhitm. Hdr taken with camera hdr studio apk on nexus 4 is much faster and almost blur free, plus better saturation.
I have tried to replace camera and gallery apk with those of nexus 5 4.4.2. They work alrite, but generate more or less the same image quality. I tried to replace the lib files also but then the camera wont open, spesifically libmmcamera_hdr_lib.so, libmmcamera_wavelit_so. However replacing libmmcamera_image_stab.so does not cause any problem, yet it doesnt seem to affect the image quality
Replacing some other camera name related lib also do not cause any problem, but their file size are the same with the ones in nexus 4 4.4.2. So i guess, they are the same and no need to replace.
It would be awesome if someone can port hdr+ or any other better algorhitm for nexus 4 camera.

hahuhe said:
First, merry xmas all
As the OP suggested, i also believe that hdr+ is some sort of better algorhitm. Hdr taken with camera hdr studio apk on nexus 4 is much faster and almost blur free, plus better saturation.
I have tried to replace camera and gallery apk with those of nexus 5 4.4.2. They work alrite, but generate more or less the same image quality. I tried to replace the lib files also but then the camera wont open, spesifically libmmcamera_hdr_lib.so, libmmcamera_wavelit_so. However replacing libmmcamera_image_stab.so does not cause any problem, yet it doesnt seem to affect the image quality
Replacing some other camera name related lib also do not cause any problem, but their file size are the same with the ones in nexus 4 4.4.2. So i guess, they are the same and no need to replace.
It would be awesome if someone can port hdr+ or any other better algorhitm for nexus 4 camera.
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Totally agree, I've heard good stuff about the HDR+ mode so I was hoping it could be ported. Thanks for testing it, its a shame its not that easy, although heck this is XDA, there'll be someone with a cup of coffee and 5 minutes of free time who can do it
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RealSlimShadyMC said:
Totally agree, I've heard good stuff about the HDR+ mode so I was hoping it could be ported. Thanks for testing it, its a shame its not that easy, although heck this is XDA, there'll be someone with a cup of coffee and 5 minutes of free time who can do it
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Not to be discouraging, one post in another thread mentioned that the HDR+ is a cpu feature. I can not confirm this is true or not.
HOWEVER, in another thread about porting the whole nexus 5 4.4.2 ROM to Nexus 4, i found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48216227#post48216227
Although the HDR+ is not available, but as you can see the image quality is waaaaayyyy better suggesting a new algorithm is at work starting in 4.4.1
I do not wish to flash this ROM since some users reported bugs. Hopefully, others can make a flashable zip only for the camera from this ROM.

hahuhe said:
Not to be discouraging, one post in another thread mentioned that the HDR+ is a cpu feature. I can not confirm this is true or not.
HOWEVER, in another thread about porting the whole nexus 5 4.4.2 ROM to Nexus 4, i found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48216227#post48216227
Although the HDR+ is not available, but as you can see the image quality is waaaaayyyy better suggesting a new algorithm is at work starting in 4.4.1
I do not wish to flash this ROM since some users reported bugs. Hopefully, others can make a flashable zip only for the camera from this ROM.
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Nice find.

hahuhe said:
Not to be discouraging, one post in another thread mentioned that the HDR+ is a cpu feature. I can not confirm this is true or not.
HOWEVER, in another thread about porting the whole nexus 5 4.4.2 ROM to Nexus 4, i found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48216227#post48216227
Although the HDR+ is not available, but as you can see the image quality is waaaaayyyy better suggesting a new algorithm is at work starting in 4.4.1
I do not wish to flash this ROM since some users reported bugs. Hopefully, others can make a flashable zip only for the camera from this ROM.
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I doubt its a CPU feature, its just a HDR mode. The only CPU related task in that is rendering and merging the shots, which our S4 can do just fine.
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Hopefully, others can make a flashable zip only for the camera from this ROM.
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My thoughts exactly. Looking for a better camera quality solution myself. I hope someone could get into this.

i am not sure whether this will help or not. following this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558142
i found that the zip contains the following apk and lib:
GoogleCamera.apk
libgcam.so
libgcam_swig_jni.so
libjni_filtershow_filters.so
libjni_mosaic.so
liblightcycle.so
libnativehelper_compat.so
so, i decided to manually replace all the above files in 4.4.2 nexus 4, with those I extracted from stock 4.4.2 nexus 5 plus the gallery apk, and the corresponding odex file (i am completely stock, rooted only). set it to rw r r, then reboot.
I did not do any detail before after comparison because I am doing this from office, sstttt... last day before holidays :laugh: still no HDR+ but i do feel: open faster, the color improves a bit. again this is probably purely just my feeling. nevertheless, decided i am going to stick with this for my new year holidays/until another solution comes up. hopefully, it will help me take awesome photos
I am attaching all those files here in this zip file. Unzip and copy manually to the root/system/lib folder and root/system/app folder, replacing each file accordingly. permissions rw r r. reboot. Dont forget to back up your old ones. Please feel free to try at your own risk. Happy holidays all!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzvR6M2JZ_dmZVlwNy0xOG9OMW8/edit?usp=sharing

I'll test it, see whether it works
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and this confirms that... it is just my feeling :silly:
do you think the red glow is even worst in the after? which maybe will give better saturation in case of outdoor photo?
thanks for testing!

hahuhe said:
and this confirms that... it is just my feeling :silly:
do you think the red glow is even worst in the after? which maybe will give better saturation in case of outdoor photo?
thanks for testing!
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I'm not sure, I'll take exactly the same shot with N5 port tomorrow
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Can't really tell from the pictures posted since they aren't identical in setup. It takes just that small difference for a camera to change the settings for the picture taken (and the post processing as well).

goofball2k said:
Can't really tell from the pictures posted since they aren't identical in setup. It takes just that small difference for a camera to change the settings for the picture taken (and the post processing as well).
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That's true, it was a before'n'after shot of the stock camera, and the one with ported libraries. I'll look into my own porting tomorrow
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Good luck. Always interesting to see how people customize the phones so much. Hoping you or someone is able to get somewhere with this.

Broken HDR and bad quality camera in AOSP ROMs

Guys, i don't know how many of you had the time to properly test the camera in any AOSP roms, but look at this.
First photo was taken with poor light and Stock ROM and camera, second photo was taking with similar poor light using a AOSP rom and Google Camera:
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I had to disable HDR to take the second picture, if i enable HDR in the camera using a AOSP rom the picture gets REALLY dark, almost black.
Looks to me there is something wrong with the camera implementation for AOSP roms, i dont expect the same quality as stock but HDR seems to be completely broken.
Have you tried this? It would be great to have other user's feedback to provide the devs with more information.
Remember to test in poor light conditions, where HDR would make a difference.

luizffgarcia said:
Guys, i don't know how many of you had the time to properly test the camera in any AOSP roms, but look at this.
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Man, you just made me hungry with that photo! Not fair!
Anyways, AOSP may not always be the better camera, which sucks. Until they figure out how to make it work better, you might be stuck with the bad pictures.
I've even seen this happen when installing 3rd party cameras on AOSP. It still doesn't work. It might have something to do with something else within the AOSP code-base.

iBolski said:
I've even seen this happen when installing 3rd party cameras on AOSP. It still doesn't work. It might have something to do with something else within the AOSP code-base.
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Camera drivers are not, and will never be, released by LG. Hence all not-stock Roms will have an inferior camera. Will not change.

Pfeffernuss said:
Camera drivers are not, and will never be, released by LG. Hence all not-stock Roms will have an inferior camera. Will not change.
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I don't think nothing can be changed. I used AOSP roms for many years and my two last phones had HDR working fine.
We may never have the exact same quality as Stock but that doesn't mean we will never have HDR working.

luizffgarcia said:
I don't think nothing can be changed.
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LG will never release the camera drivers, never.
We may never have the exact same quality as Stock but that doesn't mean we will never have HDR working.
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Where do I say that? I only say the quality will always be inferior. Numerous apps already have more functions than stock. Only issue is the quality is, much, lower.

Pfeffernuss said:
LG will never release the camera drivers, never.
Where do I say that? I only say the quality will always be inferior. Numerous apps already have more functions than stock. Only issue is the quality is, much, lower.
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I get that LG will never release the drivers, what i am saying is we may not need the drivers to be released to fix the HDR camera implementation.
Like i said, i don't expect the quality to be the same as stock, ever, but this is the first phone i owned in which i am unable to use HDR in AOSP roms, this may be fixable, that's all

i have to say that on LG G2 aosp camera got always better over time, i hope this will here be the same.
i could remember a stock camera port on LG G2, maybe some talented dev should try the same for the G3.

I switched between AOSP and Stock a few times and tested the camera more thoroughly , after the tests i could not stay with AOSP anymore, the difference is way too big.
I am talking to a few devs about this bug but they don't seem to be interested. People seem to think the camera is fine, even thou we don't have HDR...

We need to get someone like [email protected] interested - perhaps a bounty or something. BTW, has anyone tried the CM11S CameraNext ?

sandys1 said:
We need to get someone like [email protected] interested - perhaps a bounty or something. BTW, has anyone tried the CM11S CameraNext ?
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I am contacting a few devs about this issue, please do the same if you can, its just a matter of finding the right person.
I have tried a few different apps, but the app is just the top tier, i think the driver implementation is broken or something like that, all apps will behave the same.

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I am contacting a few devs about this issue, please do the same if you can, its just a matter of finding the right person.
I have tried a few different apps, but the app is just the top tier, i think the driver implementation is broken or something like that, all apps will behave the same.
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Ur right.. The driver is custom to the way the stock kernel behaves. So the only to use it in aosp ROMs is to port the kernel to use the driver.
This is actually why stock Linux drivers are reusable and android is not.
I have very less hope of this happening though

Hi, everybody!
The camera stuff about AOSP and the G3 it's a shame. On one hand I love the AOSP concept, specially with the Lollipop iteration. It's purer, smother and more beautiful in its simplicity than any Stock ROM. But on the other hand, the camera is one of the best and most avance features in the G3. In my opinion, converting this wonderful camera into a bad one, similar to any other we can find in a low-end device is something I can't just deal with. I hope that it's a question of time that this situation will be solve.
Until then we have amazing custom ROMS, based on stock LG software that we can use. Of course they are not AOSP, but they are much better than the original version.
With chupachups 3.0 my phone get more than 41000 points in Antutu. I remember that with the original software the score was about 25000. It´s much faster and smoother than the original one, and completely stable... zero issues. And you don't have to sacrifice the camera quality at all. The best of both worlds.
Here you are the link to this great ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-chupachups-rom-t2941412

chejofan said:
Hi, everybody!
The camera stuff about AOSP and the G3 it's a shame. On one hand I love the AOSP concept, specially with the Lollipop iteration. It's purer, smother and more beautiful in its simplicity than any Stock ROM. But on the other hand, the camera is one of the best and most avance features in the G3. In my opinion, converting this wonderful camera into a bad one, similar to any other we can find in a low-end device is something I can't just deal with. I hope that it's a question of time that this situation will be solve.
Until then we have amazing custom ROMS, based on stock LG software that we can use. Of course they are not AOSP, but they are much better than the original version.
With chupachups 3.0 my phone get more than 41000 points in Antutu. I remember that with the original software the score was about 25000. It´s much faster and smoother than the original one, and completely stable... zero issues. And you don't have to sacrifice the camera quality at all. The best of both worlds.
Here you are the link to this great ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-chupachups-rom-t2941412
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Yep, i agree!
Problem is, i have a D852 (Canadian variant), so the only custom stock based ROM i can run is Cloudy 1.2

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Yep, i agree!
Problem is, i have a D852 (Canadian variant), so the only custom stock based ROM i can run is Cloudy 1.2
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What about Cloudy 2.0 (Lollipop)? . It has been just released!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467

chejofan said:
What about Cloudy 2.0 (Lollipop)? . It has been just released!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467
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I am watching that closely, but there is still no support for D852...

If onyone is looking for the best camera app available for AOSP roms, this is it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522889&page=31
Just follow the updates on the last pages, the devs are still working on it and the pictures are stock like.

luizffgarcia said:
If onyone is looking for the best camera app available for AOSP roms, this is it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522889&page=31
Just follow the updates on the last pages, the devs are still working on it and the pictures are stock like.
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Could you make a comparison photo stock lollipop vs AOSP w/ this camera app?
Or just sample photos with the camera app?
The crappy camera quality is the only thing keeping me away from AOSP ROMs (I'm an Instagram freak lol)

WIIstpM said:
Could you make a comparison photo stock lollipop vs AOSP w/ this camera app?
Or just sample photos with the camera app?
The crappy camera quality is the only thing keeping me away from AOSP ROMs (I'm an Instagram freak lol)
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I am really out of time to rollback to stock to take a comparison picture now but i did it when i first found this app, take my word for it the picture quality is as good as stock even in low light, the only problem is the UI because the dpis are different.
There are devs working on this thou, we should have a improved UI very soon.

luizffgarcia said:
I am really out of time to rollback to stock to take a comparison picture now but i did it when i first found this app, take my word for it the picture quality is as good as stock even in low light, the only problem is the UI because the dpis are different.
There are devs working on this thou, we should have a improved UI very soon.
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Thanks for your feedback! one more reason pushing me to AOSP then No one has yet posted a photo sample though haha
The only missing things will be QuickCircle but that could be impossible since it's embedded in Lg's Framework.

WIIstpM said:
Thanks for your feedback! one more reason pushing me to AOSP then No one has yet posted a photo sample though haha
The only missing things will be QuickCircle but that could be impossible since it's embedded in Lg's Framework.
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Look at this link, the photos are not mine but they show clearly the difference:
http://imgur.com/a/FZVSn

Foto Comparison

You may be wondering about the different quality pictures on AOSP ROM vs Stock. Certainly, there are way to improve the quality on AOSP, and my short experience the best way to do it is porting the LG G2 camera to one of these ROMS. However, I have felt always that not matter what you do or try the quality of the photos taken with a LG G3 Stock Camera is much, much better. So this the aim of these thread. I want to show you the different results obtained using different Camera-ROM combinations:
1) Stock Cyanogenmod 12 Camera
2)G2 Camera ported on Cyanogenmod 12
3)G3 camera on Stock ROM (Cloudy 2.0)
As far as you can see the photos taken with the LG G3 Stock ROM are much better: less noise, more detailed and warmer and more natural colors.
Thanks to all that made this comparison possible
The great LG G3 CM 12 team: @AngelBob, @invisiblek, @AndroidUser00110001, @sooti, @manups4e
@Cloudyfa, the amazing developer behind the best G3 ROM (Cloudy 2.0)
@Skin1980, the genius that made possible MultIROM in our device, one of the milestones in the G3 development.
@sefnap, the nice guy that allowed to port the G2 camera to AOSP, the best way to take good pictures in these ROMs.
I hope you find this comparison helpful. If so, please, push the thanks button. I'm new on the forum, and nothing makes me happier that seeing my Thank Meter increasing. :fingers-crossed:
Thanks for your attention and time.

Grate post, and very useful. The most of people stay with stock rom only because of camera quality. I like photos and beside phone design, thats the reason why i bought this phone.
I think it will be better to compare images with 100% zoom at same image. I created images so you can compare.
Notice: this can be 100% compared only if shoots was taken from same position while phone is standing on steady object. Anyway, its good to know the difference witch is a lot important for me.
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Grate post, and very useful. The most of people stay with stock rom only because of camera quality. I like photos and beside phone design, thats the reason why i bought this phone.
I think it will be better to compare images with 100% zoom at same image. I created images so you can compare.
Notice: this can be 100% compared only if shoots was taken from same position while phone is standing on steady object. Anyway, its good to know the difference witch is a lot important for me.
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Good work! Thanks.

Hey. I'm on cm12. And I have very good qualy photos on validus ROM. Not good as stock but wit google camera very good photos I can shoot. I'll upload them when I can. And one more thing. Fv5 camera app is the worts I have ever seen. I try it on cm12.
Which app did you use on cm12?

losthero15 said:
Hey. I'm on cm12. And I have very good qualy photos on validus ROM. Not good as stock but wit google camera very good photos I can shoot. I'll upload them when I can. And one more thing. Fv5 camera app is the worts I have ever seen. I try it on cm12.
Which app did you use on cm12?
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I am also trying to find some free time, to install 5-6 applications and compare them. If you take shoots and check only on the phone, every photo look good.
I saw that ported G2 camera have the closes to the stock as it was supposed to be.

losthero15 said:
Hey. I'm on cm12. And I have very good qualy photos on validus ROM. Not good as stock but wit google camera very good photos I can shoot. I'll upload them when I can. And one more thing. Fv5 camera app is the worts I have ever seen. I try it on cm12.
Which app did you use on cm12?
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Hi! On CM12 I tried AOSP Stock Camera and afterwards a ported the "bumped" G2 camera to the ROM. I took some series of pictures in order to compare the AOSP to the G2 camera, and the quality was much better with the last one, specially in low light conditions, when it was much less noise using the G2 camera. I was in CM and derivatives (AICP, RR, for some weeks), and I tried a lot different cameras (Google, Lenovo, FV-5). These two worked far better than AOSP camera. However I found that for a AOSP ROMs, the better pictures were taking using the G2 camera. But even this one is no close to Stock LG G3 camera, so I'm now back to Stock.
Certainly the camera is not the only reason. With Cloudy ROM, I have and incredibly battery life (more than two days on normal use), amazing performance (43k on Antutu), stability and everything just working. To sum up, I'd say that with Cloudy my device is a better device.
I do love Cyanogenmod and all the others AOSP ROM, but all these ROM, at this moment, don't work as well as Stock. They may be worthy if your using a Nexus o Google Edition device or if your device is not longer supported. But I think, that if we are speaking about high end device (G3, Note 4, etc), it's a better idea to stay Stock, because otherwise you will miss a lot of features.
Coming back to Cloudy, the only thing that I miss of CM is the UI. I love material design and the original idea of Google. It's the simply most beautiful and well designed OS ever. Unfortunately, the LG implementation of Lollipop is not very good, because it's essentially the same that KitKat's. I really hope that this could change with the G4 arrival.

EmptySD said:
I am also trying to find some free time, to install 5-6 applications and compare them. If you take shoots and check only on the phone, every photo look good.
I saw that ported G2 camera have the closes to the stock as it was supposed to be.
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Yes. I agree

Wasn't there a dev trying to port STOCK G3 camera to AOSP?
How's it going?
I think once this is ported, lot of people will shift to CM/AOSP on this device... I'm one of those.

I've been using the moto x camera, http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-motorola-camera-5-0-7-1-material-t3007246 , and it's been extremely good for me, gives me quality pictures that seem to compare to stock. The app also takes advantage of the G3's laser focus which is cool?
I'm sorry I don't have the time or ability to test this camera vs. Other cameras that work on cm12 for the vs985, so I was just hoping to bring this app to your attention so you may, or may not, look into it yourself.

can you point me to the G2 ported camera?

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can you point me to the G2 ported camera?
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Yes, of course. Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522889

GFXi0N said:
Wasn't there a dev trying to port STOCK G3 camera to AOSP?
How's it going?
I think once this is ported, lot of people will shift to CM/AOSP on this device... I'm one of those.
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Hola, paisano!
I'm not sure, but I seemed to understand that even when G3 camera could be ported to AOSP ROMs, the pictures wouldn't be as good as on Stock, because of some LG proprietary drivers missing that need the stock kernel in order to work. That's why the G2 ported camera is no as good on AOSP as on LG G2 stock ROMs.
I may be wrong, but I'm afraid that you want AOSP and good pictures, the Nexus line is the only way.

chejofan said:
Hola, paisano!
I'm not sure, but I seemed to understand that even when G3 camera could be ported to AOSP ROMs, the pictures wouldn't be as good as on Stock, because of some LG proprietary drivers missing that need the stock kernel in order to work. That's why the G2 ported camera is no as good on AOSP as on LG G2 stock ROMs.
I may be wrong, but I'm afraid that you want AOSP and good pictures, the Nexus line is the only way.
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Oh i am waiting that moment. Quality differences are really huge. I hope that someone will find the way to port it.

chejofan said:
Hola, paisano!
I'm not sure, but I seemed to understand that even when G3 camera could be ported to AOSP ROMs, the pictures wouldn't be as good as on Stock, because of some LG proprietary drivers missing that need the stock kernel in order to work. That's why the G2 ported camera is no as good on AOSP as on LG G2 stock ROMs.
I may be wrong, but I'm afraid that you want AOSP and good pictures, the Nexus line is the only way.
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I come from nexus 4. Got it broken, MAPFRE was kind enough to cover the "accident" and replace the device with this LGG3....
I already made the jump, BTW, I'm already on CM12