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Why is OTA such a big deal when we have odin?

I am new to the whole odin stuff, i've been a user of an HTC Desire HD smartphone and the past month i've been using an i9500 gs4, i was wondering why is it such a big deal to have official status and ota updates when you can do everything manually and through odin, yeah one reason is the warranty but damn it is such a hussle to restore the official status for me because triangle away is not working for my device i have managed to make the binary status to samsung official but the system status is still custom, anyway a discussion about this would be helpful
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andys93 said:
I am new to the whole odin stuff, i've been a user of an HTC Desire HD smartphone and the past month i've been using an i9500 gs4, i was wondering why is it such a big deal to have official status and ota updates when you can do everything manually and through odin, yeah one reason is the warranty but damn it is such a hussle to restore the official status for me because triangle away is not working for my device i have managed to make the binary status to samsung official but the system status is still custom, anyway a discussion about this would be helpful
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You already have the answer.
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dragon135 said:
You already have the answer.
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Have u managed to get it to official yourself? If yes then how did you do it?
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N9005DBTDMJ4 N9005XXUDMJ7 is out - upgrading questions

I am currently on dbt mj3 knox 0x0 rdlv and want to up to mdj4.
How to do this without loosing root and tripping knox? (Have urdlv on my pc)
Will i keep preferences of my root apps (frozen in TB, wanam exposed preferences, greenified app)? Will the root apps stay?
Anything to do before i start the upgrade (and maybe reroot progress)?
Sorry about those many questions, but its my first proper andoid device and i dont want to mess anything up
Thanks in advance
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Killberty said:
I am currently on dbt mj3 knox 0x0 rdlv and want to up to mdj4.
How to do this without loosing root and tripping knox? (Have urdlv on my pc)
Will i keep preferences of my root apps (frozen in TB, wanam exposed preferences, greenified app)? Will the root apps stay?
Anything to do before i start the upgrade (and maybe reroot progress)?
Sorry about those many questions, but its my first proper andoid device and i dont want to mess anything up
Thanks in advance
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If you update you will lose root so you will have to root again all your rooted apps settings will stay all you will need to do is update exposed framework

jaythenut said:
If you update you will lose root so you will have to root again all your rooted apps settings will stay all you will need to do is update exposed framework
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Thanks for quick answer
So just create my rdlv files flash em sd card part and be happy?
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Killberty said:
Thanks for quick answer
So just create my rdlv files flash em sd card part and be happy?
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Tell you the truth it's not worth the upgrade i did it can't see any improvements at all its not worth all the hassle

jaythenut said:
Tell you the truth it's not worth the upgrade i did it can't see any improvements at all its not worth all the hassle
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Need the new modem because i have a fritzbox
Anyone want to write me a step by step noob tutorial?
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Killberty said:
Need the new modem because i have a fritzbox
Anyone want to write me a step by step noob tutorial?
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Just download your modem and flash with odin that's pretty much it

jaythenut said:
Just download your modem and flash with odin that's pretty much it
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Read on this forum mj6 modem was not mj3 compatible so i dont think it is with mj7...
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Killberty said:
Read on this forum mj6 modem was not mj3 compatible so i dont think it is with mj7...
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If i was you just leave it
If it ain't broke

Back my iOS days every update gave me huge improvements, isnt it like that with sammy?
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I disagree. I noticed huge improvements and several bugs fixed updating from mj1 to mj7.
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Killberty said:
Back my iOS days every update gave me huge improvements, isnt it like that with sammy?
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Not 100% on this but I believe RDLV will trip KNOX 0x1 on MJ6 or higher, so I wouldn't update if I were you.
You can try this though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47091411&postcount=62&nocache=1&z=5607935257721692

Riyyi said:
Not 100% on this but I believe RDLV will trip KNOX 0x1 on MJ6 or higher, so I wouldn't update if I were you.
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No, you don't trip knox with MJ6/MJ7 if you use URDLV and my solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47091411&postcount=62&nocache=1&z=5607935257721692

gnadenlos said:
No, you don't trip knox with MJ6/MJ7 if you use URDLV and my solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47091411&postcount=62&nocache=1&z=5607935257721692
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Hi i updated using the usual urdlv files and falshed modem and no-hlos afterwards
Now no cam no wifi binary customm
What can i do to fix it? Can binary be reset? Can i create the tar.md5 (with cygwin right?) And flash it over my device to solve it? Would this wipe my phone?
EDIT: root obtained (greenify somehow seems to work without superSU) and knox 0x0, also got sys staus back to official
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Upgrade?

I have my n3 rooted with a stock rom, can I do the ota upgrade without losing root.
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abvthegod said:
I have my n3 rooted with a stock rom, can I do the ota upgrade without losing root.
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Don't think you can your going to have to root again

You can download the firmware from sammobile and flash it via mobile odin. You will keep root. And knox counter 0x0 as well. Forget ota.
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So the ota won't stop asking me to update till I update though Odin
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hayabusa08 said:
You can download the firmware from sammobile and flash it via mobile odin. You will keep root. And knox counter 0x0 as well. Forget ota.
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Knox counter will stay 0x0 only with the old bootloader

And, I believe, Mobile ODIN won't flash the new bootloader so you can go back to a lower version of firmware.
Also, Mobile ODIN will retain root so you don't need to reroot and potentially/will trigger warranty void...

ultramag69 said:
And, I believe, Mobile ODIN won't flash the new bootloader so you can go back to a lower version of firmware.
Also, Mobile ODIN will retain root so you don't need to reroot and potentially/will trigger warranty void...
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Yes,but the most important is : having old bootloader before using mobile odin

abvthegod said:
So the ota won't stop asking me to update till I update though Odin
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You can turn auto update off through settings so it will stop bugging you....

Android 4.4 uk

Anybody heard any news about when to expect the kitkat update in the UK?
Cant get an answer from samsung on facebook.
Thanks
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Anybody heard any news about when to expect the kitkat update in the UK?
Cant get an answer from samsung on facebook.
Thanks
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you can get it now if you want just go to www.sammobile.com download flash with odin done

Yeah i dont fancy tripping knox flashing it with doin though I'd rather wait for the UK version
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You won't trip knox by installing it through odin
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Yeah i dont fancy tripping knox flashing it with doin though I'd rather wait for the UK version
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it wont tripp knox and as your in uk knox dont matter we are void from knox some law

Ah right I thought using odin would trip knox, will I not need to update my bootloader in order to install the Polish firmware?
Also will i be able to revert back to the UK firmware once it has been released?
Thanks guys
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Ah right I thought using odin would trip knox, will I not need to update my bootloader in order to install the Polish firmware?
Also will i be able to revert back to the UK firmware once it has been released?
Thanks guys
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yes you have to get bootloader and when uk comes out you might have to flash again with odin
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/update-gal...id-4-4-2-kitkat-official-firmware-how-1433140
heres the update if you want to do it
but you cant go back to 4.3 and ive read 4.4.2 is a bit buggy

Maybe that's why they haven't rolled it out in other countries yet, I will probably just wait then because I use my note 3 as my daily driver so I'd rather it was 100%
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TechRadar website:
"Samsung UK will announce rollout plans for Android 4.4 in due course."
so,i think....soon

freszu said:
TechRadar website:
"Samsung UK will announce rollout plans for Android 4.4 in due course."
so,i think....soon
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sweet :fingers-crossed:

I'm on Vodafone in the UK and have kit kat, works fine and hasn't tripped my knox. .. enjoy..
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hypnodaz said:
I'm on Vodafone in the UK and have kit kat, works fine and hasn't tripped my knox. .. enjoy..
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same for me,only thing that don't work is sky sports mobile
there is no need to install a different bootloader

I chose the Spotify package and can confirm that it works fine. .when I first flashed I had a Samsung keyboard issue, but did a full factory reset and it's gone now..also rooted and cwm recovery installed with no issues..
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I have a note 3 locked to 3 carrier..if I download the leaked update and flash it using Odin (my fone is not rooted) will it cause any problems?
Since my fone is carrier locked and 3 haven't pushed an update yet.
Thanks in advance
P.s I'm a total noon at flashing so sorry in advance for dumb questions.
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pac-mannan said:
I have a note 3 locked to 3 carrier..if I download the leaked update and flash it using Odin (my fone is not rooted) will it cause any problems?
Since my fone is carrier locked and 3 haven't pushed an update yet.
Thanks in advance
P.s I'm a total noon at flashing so sorry in advance for dumb questions.
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I think it is not a 100% safe thing to try to update a carrier-locked Note3 - given that you also do not have a lot of experience I would suggest waiting a little more (and in the meantime reading in the many threads around and searching for somobody else with a carrier-locked Note 3 from the same 3 UK carrier).

You can get a free unlock code from three, got mine installed polish kit kat no problems.
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Just to mention that some 3rd party apps still require updates from developers to work on 4.4 so if you don't mind waiting a month or two this should also give them time too.

So if I get it unlocked, then its OK to flash the official update?
Basically I just want yo know the effect of flashing an official ROM on a carrier locked fone.
Yeah I've been reading the threads so I know how to flash it using Odin.just wanted to know will it be OK or will my fone go KU-KU
Sorry if I'm eating your brains
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You can flash even if it's network locked. It will stay network locked... But won't be a problem. You can also get your phone unlocked free from three.
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You will loose root unless you use mobile odin with the keep root feature, and boot into download, then flash the bootloader. I don't think there's a de la vega style root on 4.4.

Sph-l720 Not Rooting With Towel Root

My warranty just ended and i wanted to try a one click root method. I saw a lot of samsung users on youtube using towelroot so I decided to try that. I downloaded the app, the first time i clicked make it rain, it read, phone is not currently supported. In the video discription it gave a different modstring for sprint model s4's. So i tried that, and i got the same message. None of the modstrings seem to work and ive tried many other root apps but i prefer towelroot. I dont have a computer on hand to use odin and i really want to use a one click method. How far away will the next update be to fix towel root and if not any other one click apps??
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If you took the NG2 update, Towelroot won't work. That loophole is currently closed.
And don't ask when something will be updated. The devs here do this for free and have personal lives to worry about. They'll get updates out when they get updates out.

Ok man chill. Thanks for the response
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why bother with towelroot? flash twrp. flash supersu.. disable knox.. profit..

MegaMoose2000 said:
Ok man chill. Thanks for the response
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I am chill. You're new and probably didn't realize that asking for update etas is a big no no.
bryguy9021 said:
why bother with towelroot? flash twrp. flash supersu.. disable knox.. profit..
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Because he doesn't have a computer to Odin in a custom recovery at the moment.

Sorry man i diddint realize the devs were so busy. Thanks for the insight
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Aee there any other one click apps that work with the new update???
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