Why is OTA such a big deal when we have odin? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am new to the whole odin stuff, i've been a user of an HTC Desire HD smartphone and the past month i've been using an i9500 gs4, i was wondering why is it such a big deal to have official status and ota updates when you can do everything manually and through odin, yeah one reason is the warranty but damn it is such a hussle to restore the official status for me because triangle away is not working for my device i have managed to make the binary status to samsung official but the system status is still custom, anyway a discussion about this would be helpful
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andys93 said:
I am new to the whole odin stuff, i've been a user of an HTC Desire HD smartphone and the past month i've been using an i9500 gs4, i was wondering why is it such a big deal to have official status and ota updates when you can do everything manually and through odin, yeah one reason is the warranty but damn it is such a hussle to restore the official status for me because triangle away is not working for my device i have managed to make the binary status to samsung official but the system status is still custom, anyway a discussion about this would be helpful
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You already have the answer.
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You already have the answer.
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Have u managed to get it to official yourself? If yes then how did you do it?
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(q) how to check flash counter?

Please can anyone help me how to check and rest flash counter on galaxy s4?
I need to send me s4 to samsung care because of some hardware problem but I am afraid if samsung checks the flash counter and refuse me giving warranty.
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Download triangle away from the Play Store, it'll tell you
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But I am not rooted after flashing stock rom yesterday and triangle away requires root permission for its working.
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munmun said:
But I am not rooted after flashing stock rom yesterday and triangle away requires root permission for its working.
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download pre-rooted stock rom from djembey here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
install triangle away, reset counter. then you'll have official stock rom with basic root access, flash count 0 and status official.
best choice i guess :fingers-crossed:
munmun said:
Please can anyone help me how to check and rest flash counter on galaxy s4?
I need to send me s4 to samsung care because of some hardware problem but I am afraid if samsung checks the flash counter and refuse me giving warranty.
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I tried installing triangle away and it does not work.. same will happen in your i9500 its not yet supported i guess we have to wait for chainfire to be back from vacation to make this work for S4 hope this helps
munmun said:
Please can anyone help me how to check and rest flash counter on galaxy s4?
I need to send me s4 to samsung care because of some hardware problem but I am afraid if samsung checks the flash counter and refuse me giving warranty.
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Hey, did you send it back or not? I rooted mine to check the flash counter and triggered knox security. The are now refusing to honour their warranty despite the actual fault being a physical fault with the screen (it is peeling away from the phone body).
I will keep pushing them until they fix it as the fault is totally unrelated to the phone software and they are breaking the law by refusing to fix it however I will be selling the phone and boycotting them until they drastically improve their customer service
Read this, then tell them
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j93ijf5hzdfwwjm/Screenshot_2014-01-07-15-27-55.png

Binary counter reset on MF3?

My phone was updated to MF3 already, i didnt mind because i had gone back to stock 2 months ago anyways, however i am selling the phone now and would like to know if there is a way to reset the binary counter while on MF3 firmware?
Nope
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Awesome hope whoever buys it doesent need to send it in ever
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Update after rooting N9005 ?

Will my N9005 still gets updates after I root it ??
Warranty doesn't matter for me just updates.
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Peyman92 said:
Will my N9005 still gets updates after I root it ??
Warranty doesn't matter for me just updates.
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No have to get updates from www.sammobile.com, you will lose root so have to root again
So I have to download updates and then flash it with odin no OTA :/
Thanks mate!
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Peyman92 said:
So I have to download updates and then flash it with odin no OTA :/
Thanks mate!
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yeah pretty much
Yes you still can..I am rooted got ota updates but just make sure you install xposed and get wanam xposed and tick the fake system status so it would show official and you'll still get ota updates..just make sure you revert back to stock recovery upon getting the ota updates and then you're good to go
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thanks for guiding me mate, There is just one problem my Knox has become X01, Can I still get OTA by faking system status ??
xposed is not working in stock Rom i guess !!!

Android 4.4 uk

Anybody heard any news about when to expect the kitkat update in the UK?
Cant get an answer from samsung on facebook.
Thanks
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Anybody heard any news about when to expect the kitkat update in the UK?
Cant get an answer from samsung on facebook.
Thanks
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you can get it now if you want just go to www.sammobile.com download flash with odin done
Yeah i dont fancy tripping knox flashing it with doin though I'd rather wait for the UK version
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You won't trip knox by installing it through odin
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Yeah i dont fancy tripping knox flashing it with doin though I'd rather wait for the UK version
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it wont tripp knox and as your in uk knox dont matter we are void from knox some law
Ah right I thought using odin would trip knox, will I not need to update my bootloader in order to install the Polish firmware?
Also will i be able to revert back to the UK firmware once it has been released?
Thanks guys
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
Ah right I thought using odin would trip knox, will I not need to update my bootloader in order to install the Polish firmware?
Also will i be able to revert back to the UK firmware once it has been released?
Thanks guys
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yes you have to get bootloader and when uk comes out you might have to flash again with odin
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/update-gal...id-4-4-2-kitkat-official-firmware-how-1433140
heres the update if you want to do it
but you cant go back to 4.3 and ive read 4.4.2 is a bit buggy
Maybe that's why they haven't rolled it out in other countries yet, I will probably just wait then because I use my note 3 as my daily driver so I'd rather it was 100%
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TechRadar website:
"Samsung UK will announce rollout plans for Android 4.4 in due course."
so,i think....soon
freszu said:
TechRadar website:
"Samsung UK will announce rollout plans for Android 4.4 in due course."
so,i think....soon
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sweet :fingers-crossed:
I'm on Vodafone in the UK and have kit kat, works fine and hasn't tripped my knox. .. enjoy..
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hypnodaz said:
I'm on Vodafone in the UK and have kit kat, works fine and hasn't tripped my knox. .. enjoy..
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same for me,only thing that don't work is sky sports mobile
there is no need to install a different bootloader
I chose the Spotify package and can confirm that it works fine. .when I first flashed I had a Samsung keyboard issue, but did a full factory reset and it's gone now..also rooted and cwm recovery installed with no issues..
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I have a note 3 locked to 3 carrier..if I download the leaked update and flash it using Odin (my fone is not rooted) will it cause any problems?
Since my fone is carrier locked and 3 haven't pushed an update yet.
Thanks in advance
P.s I'm a total noon at flashing so sorry in advance for dumb questions.
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pac-mannan said:
I have a note 3 locked to 3 carrier..if I download the leaked update and flash it using Odin (my fone is not rooted) will it cause any problems?
Since my fone is carrier locked and 3 haven't pushed an update yet.
Thanks in advance
P.s I'm a total noon at flashing so sorry in advance for dumb questions.
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I think it is not a 100% safe thing to try to update a carrier-locked Note3 - given that you also do not have a lot of experience I would suggest waiting a little more (and in the meantime reading in the many threads around and searching for somobody else with a carrier-locked Note 3 from the same 3 UK carrier).
You can get a free unlock code from three, got mine installed polish kit kat no problems.
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Just to mention that some 3rd party apps still require updates from developers to work on 4.4 so if you don't mind waiting a month or two this should also give them time too.
So if I get it unlocked, then its OK to flash the official update?
Basically I just want yo know the effect of flashing an official ROM on a carrier locked fone.
Yeah I've been reading the threads so I know how to flash it using Odin.just wanted to know will it be OK or will my fone go KU-KU
Sorry if I'm eating your brains
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You can flash even if it's network locked. It will stay network locked... But won't be a problem. You can also get your phone unlocked free from three.
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You will loose root unless you use mobile odin with the keep root feature, and boot into download, then flash the bootloader. I don't think there's a de la vega style root on 4.4.

Device is modified?

My note 3 is running the belgian 4.4.2 I downloaded from Sam mobile and flashed with odin, though the phone says it is a custom rom and when I click check for updates it also says phone is modified.
Anyone know what the problem is here and how I can restore ota updates?
The phone was rooted when i was on 4.3 but I have flashed first the Polish and then the Belgian 4.4s via odin
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
My note 3 is running the belgian 4.4.2 I downloaded from Sam mobile and flashed with odin, though the phone says it is a custom rom and when I click check for updates it also says phone is modified.
Anyone know what the problem is here and how I can restore ota updates?
The phone was rooted when i was on 4.3 but I have flashed first the Polish and then the Belgian 4.4s via odin
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downgrade to 4.3 of ur region it may solve the problem.
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Thought you couldn't downgrade? I may as well wait for the UK 4.4 now
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x102x96x said:
downgrade to 4.3 of ur region it may solve the problem.
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You can't go back to JB from KK... You may as well have said to connect to Kies and let that fix it...
To the Op, check if your Knox warranty void has been tripped, if it has you may as well root and install a custom rom and/or recovery, or at the very least xposed framework.
You can't reset theKnox but you can use a mod to trick the system into thinking its official which will allow OTA updates. You may need a couple of things to be active so the OTA will install but I'll let you look that up.
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You can't go back to JB from KK... You may as well have said to connect to Kies and let that fix it...
To the Op, check if your Knox warranty void has been tripped, if it has you may as well root and install a custom rom and/or recovery, or at the very least xposed framework.
You can't reset theKnox but you can use a mod to trick the system into thinking its official which will allow OTA updates. You may need a couple of things to be active so the OTA will install but I'll let you look that up.
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thanks for info
i wanna know thr s no way to downgrade or thr s some special and difficult ways!?!?
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x102x96x said:
thanks for info
i wanna know thr s no way to downgrade or thr s some special and difficult ways!?!?
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Nope, once the bootlader has been upgraded there's no way to go back....
So once knox has been Tripped you cant get ota updates even on an official rom?
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sweatingmytittsoff said:
So once knox has been Tripped you cant get ota updates even on an official rom?
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You can get OTA, just not if it's rooted and status is custom....
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You can get OTA, just not if it's rooted and status is custom....
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thats my problem mate, Im not rooted, im on stock and it still says custom even after I have reflashed with odin.
am i missing something?
sweatingmytittsoff said:
thats my problem mate, Im not rooted, im on stock and it still says custom even after I have reflashed with odin.
am i missing something?
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Used to read about a bug on samsung phones where if it contains too many files it would show system status as modified. Try transfer as much as your files from phone memory into sdcard then remove it. Then check again system status. It sounds crazy but i'm pretty sure that's my understanding from the thread
Rosli59564 said:
Used to read about a bug on samsung phones where if it contains too many files it would show system status as modified. Try transfer as much as your files from phone memory into sdcard then remove it. Then check again system status. It sounds crazy but i'm pretty sure that's my understanding from the thread
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il give it a try bud cheers
Still says the same, device is modified ?
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If you have an SD Card remove it then boot up. Sometimes causes issues.
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That's what I just did from the post above and it hasn't changed anything, I also reflashed the rom with odin and it's still the same...
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Strange, when flashing back to complete stock everything goes back to official (bar knox of course) - did you try the xeo? It's possible if you've used another firmware (carrier or country) the device may not like it.
Also a complete wipe may help too.
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Well when I reflashed and it didn't work I did a factory reset and cleared the cache to no prevail.
What's the xeo mate?
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Mine is the same. I went to stock because my official kit kat came out. VIA O2 germany.
Still says custom. Might root and try triangle away. Not sure if I want to re set all back up again today though
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Has KK implemented a non return to official status then?
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Not sure but maybe if I install the btu when that comes out it will go back to official
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Possibly, if they've changed it. That's put the sh...ter up everyone now.. darn Samsung! ! Blergh. . They love alienating people huh.
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