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Haven't spent much time researching but time is short before Monday' sale/
Why would I want the developer edition over a standard designed phone. I'm just not quite understanding what the advantage of the developer version is. I do want to root if that's a factor.
Thanks.
homemadehitshow said:
Haven't spent much time researching but time is short before Monday' sale/
Why would I want the developer edition over a standard designed phone. I'm just not quite understanding what the advantage of the developer version is. I do want to root if that's a factor.
Thanks.
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Two things:
1. You get to keep your warranty if you unlock the bootloader
2. You don't have to worry about root exploits for FUTURE OTA releases; current software already has root.
Other than that, they are identical devices except that you can customize the regular version.
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Two things:
1. You get to keep your warranty if you unlock the bootloader
2. You don't have to worry about root exploits for FUTURE OTA releases; current software already has root.
Other than that, they are identical devices except that you can customize the regular version.
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Developer edition has root by default out of the box?
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Developer edition has root by default out of the box?
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No you don't have root out of the box. With developer edition, you can unlock the bootloader, flash a new recovery, and install su (root) using fastboot. You can do it at any time.
For the regular version, you need to root using Jcase's exploit (in the Development forum) which is also relatively easy to do.
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No you don't have root out of the box. With developer edition, you can unlock the bootloader, flash a new recovery, and install su (root) using fastboot. You can do it at any time.
For the regular version, you need to root using Jcase's exploit (in the Development forum) which is also relatively easy to do.
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But with regular version you can flash TWRP recovery too and get SU with that, I see no difference in there.
I think the difference is in when you unlock your bootloader, developer edition doesn't lost its warranty
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But with regular version you can flash TWRP recovery too and get SU with that, I see no difference in there.
I think the difference is in when you unlock your bootloader, developer edition doesn't lost its warranty
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For now yes. If we get another OTA and no one makes a root exploit, the regular version may be stuck without root. If you care that much about having root, the dev edition is most likely the better choice. If you're not too worried about not having root in future OTAs (who knows if we'll actually get another major OS bump) the I guess the custom versions are going to be more interesting to you.
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For now yes. If we get another OTA and no one makes a root exploit, the regular version may be stuck without root. If you care that much about having root, the dev edition is most likely the better choice. If you're not too worried about not having root in future OTAs (who knows if we'll actually get another major OS bump) the I guess the custom versions are going to be more interesting to you.
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Thank you for that information. :good:
Dev edition is also more "figure proof" whereas after motorola stop supporting the phone you can still get android updayes so long as there are devs building them.
Thanks for the info guys. I'm really considering upgrading from my Nexus 4. I would have preferred a different color but I think I'd go with the developer edition. I'm getting ready to go through the forums but how do you guys feel the developer support is compared to the Nexus 4? I use CWM recovery and like CM and AOSPA a lot. Does performance take a hit on custom ROMs compared to stock which is from my understanding highly optimized?
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homemadehitshow said:
Haven't spent much time researching but time is short before Monday' sale/
Why would I want the developer edition over a standard designed phone. I'm just not quite understanding what the advantage of the developer version is. I do want to root if that's a factor.
Thanks.
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If you don't know why you need the developer edition, then you don't need the developer edition.
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Can anyone speak to the LTE bands for ATT on DE? It looks like it has 17 covered but ATT can also use 4(?) and I think Wikipedia says 29 in the future. I'd hate to get it and stop getting LTE in areas I'm getting it in now.
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If you don't know why you need the developer edition, then you don't need the developer edition.
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Says the guy with the Tapatalk sig.
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Says the guy with the Tapatalk sig.
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Lol.
I do use tapatalk. And I don't put an obnoxious signature. I leave it default.
That was a HARD DISS YO
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Lol.
I do use tapatalk. And I don't put an obnoxious signature. I leave it default.
That was a HARD DISS YO
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I agree pretty harsh.....
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I agree pretty harsh.....
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He just ripped on 87% of this community and doesn't even know it. Lol.
Anyways, for $400 - get the Dev. A true custom recovery and no root exploits needed.
SENT FROM MY TAPPED OUT CYAN PURPLE BUBBLE GUM TRANSPARENT WITH A CUSTOM KERNEL AND A CUSTOM ROM THAT I PAID FOR WITH MY OWN MONEY MOTOROLA MOBILITY MOTO X WITH SILVER HIGHLIGHTS AND NAVY BACK ON THE BIG RED NETWORK KNOWN AS VZW SENT FROM YOUR AUNTS HOUSE GO OBAMA
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Oh I know it.
Sent from my electrical device.
I have an AT&T S4 with an unlocked bootloader. However, I want a new device. I was just wondering if my device would be useful to any developers on this forum.
It currently runs 4.2.2, with I337UCUAMDB
Kernel version: 3.4.0-440216
fireshot91 said:
I have an AT&T S4 with an unlocked bootloader. However, I want a new device. I was just wondering if my device would be useful to any developers on this forum.
It currently runs 4.2.2, with I337UCUAMDB
Kernel version: 3.4.0-440216
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First, there is no unlocked bootloader on the i337. Just and exploit that gets around the locked bootloader. MDB allows that exploit. There are enough developers here who have not updated their firmware that your device is probably not worth any extra to them.
fireshot91 said:
I have an AT&T S4 with an unlocked bootloader. However, I want a new device. I was just wondering if my device would be useful to any developers on this forum.
It currently runs 4.2.2, with I337UCUAMDB
Kernel version: 3.4.0-440216
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If you are selling it try swappa.com and point out your build that it's a big advantage to those who love flash custom roms.. it will be very valuable.
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jd1639 said:
First, there is no unlocked bootloader on the i337. Just and exploit that gets around the locked bootloader. MDB allows that exploit. There are enough developers here who have not updated their firmware that your device is probably not worth any extra to them.
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Sorry, I didn't mean my device, but I meant a dump of my firmware. But if enough people have it, nevermind then.
netomel said:
If you are selling it try swappa.com and point out your build that it's a big advantage to those who love flash custom roms.. it will be very valuable.
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I'll try Swappa, since i'm getting very lowball offers on CL.
Thanks.
fireshot91 said:
Sorry, I didn't mean my device, but I meant a dump of my firmware. But if enough people have it, nevermind then.
I'll try Swappa, since i'm getting very lowball offers on CL.
Thanks.
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Thanks for your intentions but bootloader locked phones can't use any lower kernel roms.
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Hello, i would like to ask the developers on xda if they know aproximate the time Root will be ready on Official Stock Lollipop Lg g3 (NOT lollipop rom).
Your answer can help a lot of followers on xda that wanna keep LG G3 Official lollipop without installing any rom... Lots of ppl just searching and asking about Root on lollipop as it is.
Thx for your answers already.
Keep up the good wrok.
p.s. Plz don't say go back to kitkat root and install rom with lollipop and root --- we ask for the root of the official lollipop, thx.
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Hello, i would like to ask the developers on xda if they know aproximate the time Root will be ready on Official Stock Lollipop Lg g3 (NOT lollipop rom).
Your answer can help a lot of followers on xda that wanna keep LG G3 Official lollipop without installing any rom... Lots of ppl just searching and asking about Root on lollipop as it is.
Thx for your answers already.
Keep up the good wrok.
p.s. Plz don't say go back to kitkat root and install rom with lollipop and root --- we ask for the root of the official lollipop, thx.
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I agree too. I would like to
I Agree.
Eta's are the biggest no-no on this site. These developers do this stuff out of the kindness of their hearts, aside from jobs and families. Asking for a time frame for any sort of development is a huge slap in the face of the devs. With that being said, all you can do is what you said already, go back to kit kat and flash a rooted lollipop rom, and be patient with the devs, as this is not their job.
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Eta's are the biggest no-no on this site. These developers do this stuff out of the kindness of their hearts, aside from jobs and families. Asking for a time frame for any sort of development is a huge slap in the face of the devs. With that being said, all you can do is what you said already, go back to kit kat and flash a rooted lollipop rom, and be patient with the devs, as this is not their job.
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Plz read before you answer.. We asked not to say about Roms and staff..
And ppl dont need axcact date only if it will take 1 to 2 months or 6-year, so is not excact date.
kitelooper said:
Plz read before you answer.. We asked not to say about Roms and staff..
And ppl dont need axcact date only if it will take 1 to 2 months or 6-year, so is not excact date.
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Not sure what you meant by that, but you clearly asked for an eta of a root method. The only way you can have rooted lollipop is to downgrade and flash like you mentioned, and wait patiently for something to come up.
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Neontc said:
Not sure what you meant by that, but you clearly asked for an eta of a root method. The only way you can have rooted lollipop is to downgrade and flash like you mentioned, and wait patiently for something to come up.
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Read before u answer plz..We already know that so i ask for something else obviously.
kitelooper said:
Read before u answer plz..We already know that so i ask for something else obviously.
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Haha, alright man, good luck.
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kitelooper said:
Hello, i would like to ask the developers on xda if they know aproximate the time Root will be ready on Official Stock Lollipop Lg g3 (NOT lollipop rom).
Your answer can help a lot of followers on xda that wanna keep LG G3 Official lollipop without installing any rom... Lots of ppl just searching and asking about Root on lollipop as it is.
Thx for your answers already.
Keep up the good wrok.
p.s. Plz don't say go back to kitkat root and install rom with lollipop and root --- we ask for the root of the official lollipop, thx.
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No, no one knows the time.
But it's definitely not before G4 is released. If there is a root exploit for LL, it lies in LG's services, and it would most likely apply to all LG phones running 5.0. Releasing something like that before the release of G4 and other 5.0 phones is a bad idea.
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Read before u answer plz..We already know that so i ask for something else obviously.
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Read before you answer pls
No ETA, period. Bye bye now.
I don't think there would be further development on root on g3, (same w/ the bootloader) as we have already a working custom recovery... Just my opinion though... [emoji4]
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teddy0209 said:
I don't think there would be further development on root on g3, (same w/ the bootloader) as we have already a working custom recovery... Just my opinion though... [emoji4]
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^This!
teddy0209 said:
I don't think there would be further development on root on g3, (same w/ the bootloader) as we have already a working custom recovery... Just my opinion though... [emoji4]
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Gasp! iPhone! Get him!
Root Is Possible!
Hi Friends,
I am a fairly new owner of a D858HK (dual-SIM) variant of the LG G3. An update to Lollipop came in so I got interested.
Focusing instead on getting root and "bump'd" TWRP (custom recovery), I figured it out through the help of @autoprime and his thread.
I know there are a lot of developers who are able to "tear down" the official Lollipop firmware, pre-root it, and repackage/distribute it, however, the D858HK variant is not as widespread as the D855 so I had very little hopes for custom ROMs. So I documented everything that I have learned through reading the relevant threads, tested it on my LG G3 variant (with 100% success rate), and put up a thread to share it. You can check it here: click me!
I'm interested to know if this will work with other LG G3 variants. If it does, please let me know.
In the meantime, this finding got me interested in learning more. I'll probably start with the easy ones like pre-rooting and repackaging the stock firmware. Who knows, I might eventually progress to where I can modify/create a ROM (that's ambitious, but not impossible).
topet2k12001 said:
Hi Friends,
I am a fairly new owner of a D858HK (dual-SIM) variant of the LG G3. An update to Lollipop came in so I got interested.
Focusing instead on getting root and "bump'd" TWRP (custom recovery), I figured it out through the help of @autoprime and his thread.
I know there are a lot of developers who are able to "tear down" the official Lollipop firmware, pre-root it, and repackage/distribute it, however, the D858HK variant is not as widespread as the D855 so I had very little hopes for custom ROMs. So I documented everything that I have learned through reading the relevant threads, tested it on my LG G3 variant (with 100% success rate), and put up a thread to share it. You can check it here: click me!
I'm interested to know if this will work with other LG G3 variants. If it does, please let me know.
In the meantime, this finding got me interested in learning more. I'll probably start with the easy ones like pre-rooting and repackaging the stock firmware. Who knows, I might eventually progress to where I can modify/create a ROM (that's ambitious, but not impossible).
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Nice guide!
This will work with any phone.
You can easily create a flashable zip and share it for you fellow d856/857/858HK users.
Just take META-INF (updater-script) from robalm's zip, bump boot.img, substitute d855 images with 858 ones, and voila! You have a repacked 858 stock rom.
kitelooper said:
Plz read before you answer.. We asked not to say about Roms and staff..
And ppl dont need axcact date only if it will take 1 to 2 months or 6-year, so is not excact date.
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Well ETA stands for Estimated time of arrival not exact time of arrival so what you are asking for is an eta!! we would all love to get some info on the root for lollipop but keep it cool man. you dont have any developer here on your payroll so if they say don't bother them about ETAs then you better get a glass of tequila and chill out. and hope and pray for ETA. or better still swap your g3 for a nexus.
Root available for LL
You can root. Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3050179
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Finally that's very good news
better written guide for lollipop root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3049772
Be ready guys ...
Confirmed from a source that bootloader unlock tool for zenfone 2 is coming soon
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Sweet!
Good hope it will help to unlock 4g bands
Yes! Can't wait for this!
excellent news for our device!
I hope you're right, but I think I'll hold off on that thanks button unless it actually happens soon, or unless I can see the evidence that it will happen soon. Otherwise, I fear that you're just trying to collect thanks for not actually doing anything. No offense intended.
Can you give us a link to the source
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Its impossible to release unlock-tool without adding if.zip into firmware package.
So at least we need to wait for new FW update.
aj7400 said:
Be ready guys ...
Confirmed from a source that bootloader unlock tool for zenfone 2 is coming soon
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Great! Any word on 5.1.1 update? And 64bit ROM?
Good news for our new toy
It would be nice if someone could compile a kernel with kvm support as well as the network sharing module, thus could be a real pc.
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Some asus support guys say it in zentalk forum, i hope we don't wait too long
rlaw said:
Great! Any word on 5.1.1 update? And 64bit ROM?
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This is what I found in the forums
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what is the advantage of unlocking the bootloader?
tabemasu88 said:
what is the advantage of unlocking the bootloader?
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Custom roms. Custom kernels. Custom everything. Freedom!! Im dying to get AOSP on this thing!
Here it is
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=9145
He didn't say when it will be released
That's great!!! But here is a noob question why can't we make some rom for locked bootloader while we wait for tool.I mean in my previous device forum(i.e. Sony xperia u )there where ROMs for locked as well as unlocked bootloader.ofcourse the ROM which require locked bootloader had stock kernel and was based on stock firmware but thats about it.these roms would have some cool features,mods etc.I know this is stupid question but I am still learning about these things.I am 16 years old what else do you expect? so please reply...
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time to backup and wait for aosp roms
SRV Rockable said:
That's great!!! But here is a noob question why can't we make some rom for locked bootloader while we wait for tool.I mean in my previous device forum(i.e. Sony xperia u )there where ROMs for locked as well as unlocked bootloader.ofcourse the ROM which require locked bootloader had stock kernel and was based on stock firmware but thats about it.these roms would have some cool features,mods etc.I know this is stupid question but I am still learning about these things.I am 16 years old what else do you expect? so please reply...
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I think technically, we could see customized stock based ROMs. In fact, if you go to the download page for the pre-rooted firmware, there is a de-bloated version in there already. I think most people aren't super excited by that though. I'm happy to do my own stuff through GravityBox until AOSP is available.
just find some information about a lolipop upgrade for motorola droid ultra/mini/maxx from motorola upgrades pages :crying: :crying:
mt021322 said:
just find some information about a lolipop upgrade for motorola droid ultra/mini/maxx from motorola upgrades pages :crying: :crying:
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/110262
The link for more details is dead however...
BackCheck said:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/110262
The link for more details is dead however...
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thanks,..i forgot for a link :good:
this attachment is what i've got from motorola forums about a dead links
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/19343d1335?page=24
Sad news, they should offer owners the option to unlock their bootloader so they can upgrade to Lollipop themselves.
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sign a petition, give us the BL UNLOCK CODE, we don't need a cashback
un1ocked said:
sign a petition, give us the BL UNLOCK CODE, we don't need a cashback
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Yay,give me a link petition,.i will sign it,i' ll support it..
I found a link
https://www.change.org/p/verizon-dr...source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
Let' s go
I signed it I'm number 97 of 100 but don't think it will do any good because the petitions don't seen to ever work out will for any of us.
leerpsp said:
I signed it I'm number 97 of 100 but don't think it will do any good because the petitions don't seen to ever work out will for any of us.
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At least we' re doing something,no matter what' s a result.
Verizon isn't going to let Motorola bl unlock these phones until they stop selling them like the X
But there is a new unlock exploit coming very soon that *will* work on the 8960/pro, so most of us will at least get 5.1 via cyanogenmod, it should breathe new life into these devices for at least the rest of 2016, maybe longer.
Maybe there is a chance to even get 6 via cyanogenmod eventually if the drivers can be ported from 5.1 ? Or is that an unrealistic expectation?
Let's hope this new 8960/ pro exploit is real for the sake of those who have not had the pleasure of running LP and MM on their machines. My MAXX and OG Moto X have been on LP for over a year now and it ran much better than KK other than the cell standby bug. I just flashed CM13 on this phone and it is even better. Testing out doze now, seems to be pretty good on the battery. This is a great phone, if it is bootloader unlocked!
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.... selling them like the X But there is a new unlock exploit coming very soon that *will* work on the 8960/pro, so most....
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blasphemy !! rofl
teerout said:
blasphemy !! rofl
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sorry that went over my head? blasphemy? why?
@beaups
What has a higher probability of happening?
WP = 0 or
Bootloader Unlock
JH1108 said:
@beaups
What has a higher probability of happening?
WP = 0 or
Bootloader Unlock
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Same.
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beaups said:
Same.
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What version Android are these devices running. Are you able to get (temp) root?
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beaups said:
What version Android are these devices running. Are you able to get (temp) root?
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root exists on the (verizon) mini/maxx/ultra (same phone internals) because of work done by crashxxl to bypass the bootloader and write over the rom via qload driver mode - basically he writes the changes needed for root and SU
I believe he figured it out by studying the developer edition of the device which is bl unlocked
it works quite well, we have root and xposed but wp=1 of course
laginimaineb's next announcement will open the device for everyone but I don't think he is releasing a proof of concept, at least not for this phone model, so if you are willing, we could probably really use your help when that happens
I'd be happy to send you a mini (to keep) if that will help motivate you
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root exists on the (verizon) mini/maxx/ultra (same phone internals) because of work done by crashxxl to bypass the bootloader and write over the rom via qload driver mode - basically he writes the changes needed for root and SU
I believe he figured it out by studying the developer edition of the device which is bl unlocked
it works quite well, we have root and xposed but wp=1 of course
laginimaineb's next announcement will open the device for everyone but I don't think he is releasing a proof of concept, at least not for this phone model, so if you are willing, we could probably really use your help when that happens
I'd be happy to send you a mini (to keep) if that will help motivate you
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What version Android are most people running?
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beaups said:
What version Android are most people running?
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it's kitkat 4.4.4 - the only option right now unless you have a developer model or paid for sunshine so you can use cyanogenmod, etc.
SU6-7 rom was built December 2014 (sunshine cannot unlock this one)
SU4.21 rom was built June 2014 - sunshine CAN unlock this version but if anyone has accepted the OTA, it's too late because now the phone is SU6-7.3 and fuse blown
I can send you either SU4 or SU6 to play with
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it's kitkat 4.4.4 - the only option right now unless you have a developer model or paid for sunshine so you can use cyanogenmod, etc.
SU6-7 rom was built December 2014 (sunshine cannot unlock this one)
SU4.21 rom was built June 2014 - sunshine CAN unlock this version but if anyone has accepted the OTA, it's too late because now the phone is SU6-7.3
I can send you either SU4 or SU6 to play with
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So sunshine is available for these models and people skipped it? Or on too new of firmware to use it?
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So sunshine is available for these models and people skipped it? Or on too new of firmware to use it?
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SU4 hasn't been available for a year now, maybe longer and you cannot downgrade these phones
verizon now ships all of them with SU6, so no sunshine, and verizon refuses to let motorola unlock the bootloader like they did with the X