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[Q] Super noob needs a help here!

Back in old days when i had a HTC Wildfire with a few clicks i rooted it and started installing new ROMS on to it
But since i got this New Xperia Play : R800i Build NO. 3.0.1.a.0.146 {UK}
I got no clue how to do anything on it. Let me be honest here... I updated my phone using the option under the settings menu in About my phone and seems to be on 2.3.3 and look all my friends have rooted their phones but i got no clue if its even possible . Mabey im not such a noob or something but i would be really greatfull if anyoen could point me atleast to the right direction. Mabey some helpfull links to help a fellow noob

Is your phone sim locked?
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Nope... Well not that i know of, because i got my phone from vodafone and once i inserted a sim card from another operator i made a few calls and i could recieve calls too without any problems.

arian009 said:
Nope... Well not that i know of, because i got my phone from vodafone and once i inserted a sim card from another operator i made a few calls and i could recieve calls too without any problems.
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Mine was from vodafone and wasnt sim locked either. Ok you have two choices for root. You can either unlock your bootloader (there are many downsides and advantages to this so you should research it) or downgrade to 2.3.2, root using gingerbreak then OTA update to latest version. That way you will not loose root while updating.
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Seems like ol' Freddy is right after all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return

What OTA Update Means? And please can you give some links on how to downgrade and root it please?

And btw if i use the method of downgrading my phone first will i be able to flash custom ROMs?

Logseman said:
Seems like ol' Freddy is right after all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return
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Lmao
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arian009 said:
What OTA Update Means? And please can you give some links on how to downgrade and root it please?
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Im on my phone so i can't really link. Look in the android development section, there is a thread all about rooting 2.3.3 with a locked bootloader. OTA means over the air. Basically thats when you download and install an update using just your phone.
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arian009 said:
And btw if i use the method of downgrading my phone first will i be able to flash custom ROMs?
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No you need an unlocked bootloader to flash custom roms. But please read the pros and cons of unlocking your bootloader first. And understand what you can and can't do
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Ok mate just wanna say thanks a lot for your help and i really appreciate it. You really helped me out here. also just one more thing i need to know. By the looks of it the only cons in unlocking your bootloader seems to be that you will lose warranty and that your phone or your radio may get bricked which apparently can be fixed with restoring a backed up data using a program named omnius for se which i'm actually working on... however my only other concern is if there are any other disadvantages regarding the unblocking the bootloader that you happned to know of and be kind to share it with me Also just wanna say that i can see many tutorials as you said in the development section and i quite frankly i don't know which one applies to me since i realized one of the tutorials are for models with build number .184 where as mine is 3.0.1.a.0.145 AND I HAVE NO CLUE WHICH TUTORIAL TO FOLLOW. So i would be greatfull if you could lend me link to a right tutorial whenever you get free time on the PC

If all you want is root you can do that with a locked bootloader. You will have to downgrade to 2.3.2 (.184) then root then ota to get the latest firmware rooted. Follow the guide here. Or see this post i made here for easier instuctions on downgrading and rooting.
If you want to flash custom roms then you do need an unlocked bootloader like AndroHero has said. You dont need a specific guide to unlock your bootloader. Just go too the SE bootloader unlocking site (it gives you all the instructions you need) http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/. Then just flash doomlords kernel (which autoroots) or anything really from the development section (since i think anything can be rooted with one click with an unlocked bootloader) you will then have root and the ability to flash cutom roms.
Oh btw build number .184 = 2.3.2, build number 3.0.1.a.0.145 = 2.3.3 and build number 4.0.a = 2.3.3 (xloud version, the latest update)
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If you unlock your bootloader OTA, Pc Companion + SEUS are off limits use any of them after unlocking your bootloader and you will brick your phone. Go to the dev section for the latest updates.

Logseman said:
Seems like ol' Freddy is right after all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return
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Looks like I've overseen your sense of humor... Very subtle... Wicked
Regards Dousan...

You won't allow me to get rowdy and yell at folks, so I have to resort to good old snark. Caveat emptor.

Dousan said:
Looks like I've overseen your sense of humor... Very subtle... Wicked
Regards Dousan...
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Logseman said:
You won't allow me to get rowdy and yell at folks, so I have to resort to good old snark. Caveat emptor.
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I got it straight away

Logseman said:
You won't allow me to get rowdy and yell at folks, so I have to resort to good old snark. Caveat emptor.
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Lmao I can't argue with that, althoug it's sneaky to post a link like that, still hilarious
Regards Dousan...

Unlocked bootloader?

I would like to buy this device and be able to modify the software. Will it come with an unlocked bootloader and be rootable? It's not fun when developers aren't supported by the manufacturer as in the android world it will attract more attention to the product. I like to be able to customize what I own also could madcatz please release stock flashable firmware files for developers and development? Most of us on xda would appreciate it thanks for your time reading this and look forward to your product and hopefully all the above being true.
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alexp1289 said:
I would like to buy this device and be able to modify the software. Will it come with an unlocked bootloader and be rootable? It's not fun when developers aren't supported by the manufacturer as in the android world it will attract more attention to the product. I like to be able to customize what I own also could madcatz please release stock flashable firmware files for developers and development? Most of us on xda would appreciate it thanks for your time reading this and look forward to your product and hopefully all the above being true.
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Hi,
Yes, the bootloader is unlocked so it is rootable. Regarding the rest of your questions, watch this space!

Mad Catz Rich said:
Hi,
Yes, the bootloader is unlocked so it is rootable. Regarding the rest of your questions, watch this space!
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Hi this is awesome but what about the firmware mentioned above ? Do you gonna give us a flashtool etc... thanks for your awnser.

Mad Catz Rich said:
Hi,
Yes, the bootloader is unlocked so it is rootable. Regarding the rest of your questions, watch this space!
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Hi after 1month your device is still unusable. So now how we can root this device ??

+1 for some more info, it would be great to at least get root, then we can hide the bar for XBMC until we get KitKat (and kernel sources would allow us to cause some ruckus on that side too )

+1! :good:

ITS HERE!
Woohoo!! Root baby root!

We need more LB support.

Hey guys, just a quick thread.
I think this phone needs more LB support. Has anyone even tried a bypass method for us with LB to be able to flash custom kernels? I know back when I had a Bell Motorola Atrix there was a hack that gave us the ability to unlock our bootloaders. Why aren't we trying to find one for this phone?
I understand that those with LB can't use the official method for unlocking the bootloader, but is there not a hack we could work towards? Has anyone even tried to unlock the LB Xperia Z2? There must be a way.
Besides that, I also think it would be good to have more LB support in android development. For example a CM11 that can be used on LB devices. I'm currently running Miui 4.4.4 and it supports both LB and UB.
Cheers
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Envious_Data said:
Thats how we know its hard
Maybe someone else with different ideas can but i know a decent amount of people cant.
Atleast that we tried
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The best way to support LB is to have a rom version that uses the stock kernel. Hopefully this is what happens moving forward with the release of a sony lollipop update.

Magnetox said:
Hey guys, just a quick thread.
I think this phone needs more LB support. Has anyone even tried a bypass method for us with LB to be able to flash custom kernels? I know back when I had a Bell Motorola Atrix there was a hack that gave us the ability to unlock our bootloaders. Why aren't we trying to find one for this phone?
I understand that those with LB can't use the official method for unlocking the bootloader, but is there not a hack we could work towards? Has anyone even tried to unlock the LB Xperia Z2? There must be a way.
Besides that, I also think it would be good to have more LB support in android development. For example a CM11 that can be used on LB devices. I'm currently running Miui 4.4.4 and it supports both LB and UB.
Cheers
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I think I saw from some other threads that the reason why we can't work towards unlocking non-unlockable bootloaders is because we need to break sony encryption or something like that?
I don't know, sorry.

We are at the peak of Locked Bootloader Support.
We cant do anything more unless someone wants to spend so much time to do so.
Cracking sonys bootloader encryption results essentialy in an unlocked bootloader hence thats somewhat pointless
We cant unlock a non unlockable Xperia unless as said the encryption is cracked
And sonys encryption is almost FBI level and it may even vary per Z2
Cm11/12 on locked bootloader is possible but its extremly complicated and setting up a rom like such on LB is complicated too
You have to root your device, install a custom kernel to the fotakernel given that its not bound by the bootloader then we have to make a modified rom which reboots the fotakernel then the custom rom that matches

Envious_Data said:
You have to root your device, install a custom kernel to the fotakernel given that its not bound by the bootloader then we have to make a modified rom which reboots the fotakernel then the custom rom that matches
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Currently rooted with recovery on miui v5 android vers 4.4.4. Where is this custom kernel for LB, and why has it not been implemented yet in such a fashion?

Magnetox said:
Currently rooted with recovery on miui v5 android vers 4.4.4. Where is this custom kernel for LB, and why has it not been implemented yet in such a fashion?
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-_-
This is EXTREMLY HARD TO DO. I doubt anyone has the Patience or time to try this
Its possible via this method.

Envious_Data said:
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This is EXTREMLY HARD TO DO. I doubt anyone has the Patience or time to try this
Its possible via this method.
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Best to wait for OTA lollipop update then?
If it were standardized, say if CM11/12 took on the responsibility of releasing a LB rom, would it not make the process easier for everyone else?

Just do the same as me, sell the phone and buy another brand like motorola or something like that.
But nobody wants a Z2, hard to sell as hell.

avercros said:
Just do the same as me, sell the phone and buy another brand like motorola or something like that.
But nobody wants a Z2, hard to sell as hell.
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Or just do your research and don't get a locked device.

Actually I think it shouldn't be too difficult to install cm11/12 on LB. There is a method which has worked now for some months on the Xperia SP which let you run any ROM on the stock kernel. I think these modified for LB ROMs load a custom ramdisk at a late point in the boot process. I'm not familiar with the way it works but I guess with some reasonable work amount it might be doable for the Z2 too. If someone is willing to try to port it pm me, I can provide you with the usernames of the people who made it on the XSP.

o0 Matt 0o said:
Or just do your research and don't get a locked device.
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Yep, you are right.
Mine was a gift, and I'm not totally happy with this phone.

o0 Matt 0o said:
Or just do your research and don't get a locked device.
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Or actually solve the problem instead of avoiding it.

Magnetox said:
Or actually solve the problem instead of avoiding it.
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Your saying it like something can be done about it.
Sorry but a non unlockable bootloader would need some devs as good as the FBI

Magnetox said:
Or actually solve the problem instead of avoiding it.
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The easiest way is to change your phone to an unlock BL allowed: yes one.
If it was easy to run custom kernels on a LB , having an UB or LB would be practically the same...
I also have an unlockable phone, but it's my own fault for not researching better before buying the phone. i never had sony phones before, i should have researched more. Since the security of the z2 is very high i'm not expecting to run customs kernels anytime soon, if i ever need it it'll try to sell my phone and buy an unlocked one...

pec0ra said:
Actually I think it shouldn't be too difficult to install cm11/12 on LB. There is a method which has worked now for some months on the Xperia SP which let you run any ROM on the stock kernel. I think these modified for LB ROMs load a custom ramdisk at a late point in the boot process. I'm not familiar with the way it works but I guess with some reasonable work amount it might be doable for the Z2 too. If someone is willing to try to port it pm me, I can provide you with the usernames of the people who made it on the XSP.
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So what about this? Why not just give it a shot for CM11/12?
As I said previously I'm currently running Miui on 4.4.4 and it gives you an option for locked or unlocked bootloader in the Aroma installer.

Magnetox said:
So what about this? Why not just give it a shot for CM11/12?
As I said previously I'm currently running Miui on 4.4.4 and it gives you an option for locked or unlocked bootloader in the Aroma installer.
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miui is stock based hence why it works on LB
Its extremly hard to get any custom kernel to run on a device to have it work on LB as said its pointless bugging people about it.
ptmaniac said:
The easiest way is to change your phone to an unlock BL allowed: yes one.
If it was easy to run custom kernels on a LB , having an UB or LB would be practically the same...
I also have an unlockable phone, but it's my own fault for not researching better before buying the phone. i never had sony phones before, i should have researched more. Since the security of the z2 is very high i'm not expecting to run customs kernels anytime soon, if i ever need it it'll try to sell my phone and buy an unlocked one...
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Oliver and letama are rhe ones behind CM10 for Xperia S
Is far as i know they have a smaller custom kernel in /system Most of the rom uses the stock kernel i think.

Envious_Data said:
miui is stock based hence why it works on LB
Its extremly hard to get any custom kernel to run on a device to have it work on LB as said its pointless bugging people about it.
Oliver and letama are rhe ones behind CM10 for Xperia S
Is far as i know they have a smaller custom kernel in /system Most of the rom uses the stock kernel i think.
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Extremely hard, sure. Has anyone actually tried? Have you tried?
That's what this thread is about.

Magnetox said:
Extremely hard, sure. Has anyone actually tried? Have you tried?
That's what this thread is about.
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Thats how we know its hard
Maybe someone else with different ideas can but i know a decent amount of people cant.
Atleast that we tried

Envious_Data said:
Thats how we know its hard
Maybe someone else with different ideas can but i know a decent amount of people cant.
Atleast that we tried
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Ok. I'll be waiting for the official lollipop update + kernel for cool roms. Fingers crossed that someone cracks the sony code as well.
Cheers.

Magnetox said:
Ok. I'll be waiting for the official lollipop update + kernel for cool roms. Fingers crossed that someone cracks the sony code as well.
Cheers.
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I think 42 years of brute force testing is how long it should take i thinm.
Unless someone can get a lucky catch.

Hah, well hopefully people support LB by including a stock kernel version for all roms (especially with release of official lollipop stock kernel --soon?--).

lg g3 Stock Official Lollipop Root? (Without installing any rom)

Hello, i would like to ask the developers on xda if they know aproximate the time Root will be ready on Official Stock Lollipop Lg g3 (NOT lollipop rom).
Your answer can help a lot of followers on xda that wanna keep LG G3 Official lollipop without installing any rom... Lots of ppl just searching and asking about Root on lollipop as it is.
Thx for your answers already.
Keep up the good wrok.
p.s. Plz don't say go back to kitkat root and install rom with lollipop and root --- we ask for the root of the official lollipop, thx.

kitelooper said:
Hello, i would like to ask the developers on xda if they know aproximate the time Root will be ready on Official Stock Lollipop Lg g3 (NOT lollipop rom).
Your answer can help a lot of followers on xda that wanna keep LG G3 Official lollipop without installing any rom... Lots of ppl just searching and asking about Root on lollipop as it is.
Thx for your answers already.
Keep up the good wrok.
p.s. Plz don't say go back to kitkat root and install rom with lollipop and root --- we ask for the root of the official lollipop, thx.
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I agree too. I would like to

I Agree.

Eta's are the biggest no-no on this site. These developers do this stuff out of the kindness of their hearts, aside from jobs and families. Asking for a time frame for any sort of development is a huge slap in the face of the devs. With that being said, all you can do is what you said already, go back to kit kat and flash a rooted lollipop rom, and be patient with the devs, as this is not their job.
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Neontc said:
Eta's are the biggest no-no on this site. These developers do this stuff out of the kindness of their hearts, aside from jobs and families. Asking for a time frame for any sort of development is a huge slap in the face of the devs. With that being said, all you can do is what you said already, go back to kit kat and flash a rooted lollipop rom, and be patient with the devs, as this is not their job.
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Plz read before you answer.. We asked not to say about Roms and staff..
And ppl dont need axcact date only if it will take 1 to 2 months or 6-year, so is not excact date.

kitelooper said:
Plz read before you answer.. We asked not to say about Roms and staff..
And ppl dont need axcact date only if it will take 1 to 2 months or 6-year, so is not excact date.
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Not sure what you meant by that, but you clearly asked for an eta of a root method. The only way you can have rooted lollipop is to downgrade and flash like you mentioned, and wait patiently for something to come up.
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Neontc said:
Not sure what you meant by that, but you clearly asked for an eta of a root method. The only way you can have rooted lollipop is to downgrade and flash like you mentioned, and wait patiently for something to come up.
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Read before u answer plz..We already know that so i ask for something else obviously.

kitelooper said:
Read before u answer plz..We already know that so i ask for something else obviously.
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Haha, alright man, good luck.
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kitelooper said:
Hello, i would like to ask the developers on xda if they know aproximate the time Root will be ready on Official Stock Lollipop Lg g3 (NOT lollipop rom).
Your answer can help a lot of followers on xda that wanna keep LG G3 Official lollipop without installing any rom... Lots of ppl just searching and asking about Root on lollipop as it is.
Thx for your answers already.
Keep up the good wrok.
p.s. Plz don't say go back to kitkat root and install rom with lollipop and root --- we ask for the root of the official lollipop, thx.
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No, no one knows the time.
But it's definitely not before G4 is released. If there is a root exploit for LL, it lies in LG's services, and it would most likely apply to all LG phones running 5.0. Releasing something like that before the release of G4 and other 5.0 phones is a bad idea.

kitelooper said:
Read before u answer plz..We already know that so i ask for something else obviously.
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Read before you answer pls
No ETA, period. Bye bye now.

I don't think there would be further development on root on g3, (same w/ the bootloader) as we have already a working custom recovery... Just my opinion though... [emoji4]
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teddy0209 said:
I don't think there would be further development on root on g3, (same w/ the bootloader) as we have already a working custom recovery... Just my opinion though... [emoji4]
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^This!

teddy0209 said:
I don't think there would be further development on root on g3, (same w/ the bootloader) as we have already a working custom recovery... Just my opinion though... [emoji4]
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Gasp! iPhone! Get him!

Root Is Possible!
Hi Friends,
I am a fairly new owner of a D858HK (dual-SIM) variant of the LG G3. An update to Lollipop came in so I got interested.
Focusing instead on getting root and "bump'd" TWRP (custom recovery), I figured it out through the help of @autoprime and his thread.
I know there are a lot of developers who are able to "tear down" the official Lollipop firmware, pre-root it, and repackage/distribute it, however, the D858HK variant is not as widespread as the D855 so I had very little hopes for custom ROMs. So I documented everything that I have learned through reading the relevant threads, tested it on my LG G3 variant (with 100% success rate), and put up a thread to share it. You can check it here: click me!
I'm interested to know if this will work with other LG G3 variants. If it does, please let me know.
In the meantime, this finding got me interested in learning more. I'll probably start with the easy ones like pre-rooting and repackaging the stock firmware. Who knows, I might eventually progress to where I can modify/create a ROM (that's ambitious, but not impossible).

topet2k12001 said:
Hi Friends,
I am a fairly new owner of a D858HK (dual-SIM) variant of the LG G3. An update to Lollipop came in so I got interested.
Focusing instead on getting root and "bump'd" TWRP (custom recovery), I figured it out through the help of @autoprime and his thread.
I know there are a lot of developers who are able to "tear down" the official Lollipop firmware, pre-root it, and repackage/distribute it, however, the D858HK variant is not as widespread as the D855 so I had very little hopes for custom ROMs. So I documented everything that I have learned through reading the relevant threads, tested it on my LG G3 variant (with 100% success rate), and put up a thread to share it. You can check it here: click me!
I'm interested to know if this will work with other LG G3 variants. If it does, please let me know.
In the meantime, this finding got me interested in learning more. I'll probably start with the easy ones like pre-rooting and repackaging the stock firmware. Who knows, I might eventually progress to where I can modify/create a ROM (that's ambitious, but not impossible).
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Nice guide!
This will work with any phone.
You can easily create a flashable zip and share it for you fellow d856/857/858HK users.
Just take META-INF (updater-script) from robalm's zip, bump boot.img, substitute d855 images with 858 ones, and voila! You have a repacked 858 stock rom.

kitelooper said:
Plz read before you answer.. We asked not to say about Roms and staff..
And ppl dont need axcact date only if it will take 1 to 2 months or 6-year, so is not excact date.
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Well ETA stands for Estimated time of arrival not exact time of arrival so what you are asking for is an eta!! we would all love to get some info on the root for lollipop but keep it cool man. you dont have any developer here on your payroll so if they say don't bother them about ETAs then you better get a glass of tequila and chill out. and hope and pray for ETA. or better still swap your g3 for a nexus.

Root available for LL

You can root. Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3050179
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Finally that's very good news

better written guide for lollipop root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3049772

Now that the LG G4 root has been made available, what about the ROMs and such?

Hi, the G4 root was made available today and without asking for ETAs (I know ya'll hate that), I'm curious as to how many ROMs and Kernels you think will be made available for it over time? Do you think that there will be as many available as there were for the G3? I do understand that these things take time and a lot of hard work, and I'll be patient, but I'm still super excited to get mine on stock lollipop and improve the battery life (maybe?).

I'm sure enough will be out soon. Wait a day or three.
Sent From My LG G4

Patience young grasshopper. All will be well.

I had almost given up hope on my G4, but now. I see the light at the end of that glorious 16MP OIS camera which I have grown to love, roll on the roms and amazing dev support we all saw for the G3.

I just want to know what apps or widgets can I remove from the T-Mobile g4 that will help the phone have a better battery life or have better performance
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Jonnyn93 said:
I had almost given up hope on my G4, but now. I see the light at the end of that glorious 16MP OIS camera which I have grown to love, roll on the roms and amazing dev support we all saw for the G3.
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Gonna be worth the wait!

You cant install roms without a custom recovery, and in order to get cutom recovery you need the bootloader unlocked. Only model currently able to unlock the bootloader is the EU model.
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You can unlock the T-Mobile version by checking enable oem unlock under developer options. Once rooted you can use flashify to flash twrp. Its under original android development under the tmobile g4 forums if any other t mobile users need it. I've already used it to create a backup and it's working fine.
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Rydah805 said:
I'm sure enough will be out soon. Wait a day or three.
Sent From My LG G4
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Or 15.
But yeah, patience is golden.

grneyez said:
You cant install roms without a custom recovery, and in order to get cutom recovery you need the bootloader unlocked. Only model currently able to unlock the bootloader is the EU model.
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Pretty much this.
Root simply means we have access to system files to manage them according to our own liking.
In order to flash ROM's, your bootloader needs to be unlocked. The reason why root was so easily available on the H815 EUR model is because the bootloader was unlockable officially through LG, which meant simply flashing a custom recovery, in this case TWRP, then flashing SuperSU.zip gives you full root access. H815 EUR users have had it good for a while now, I sure envy them! But once a method to unlock the bootloader becomes available, we'll be able to flash custom ROM's and the whole lot. As with anything else - it's just a matter of time.

Just going to hop in here to state that I'll be working to bring AICP to the G4 ASAP.

Steve125 said:
You can unlock the T-Mobile version by checking enable oem unlock under developer options. Once rooted you can use flashify to flash twrp. Its under original android development under the tmobile g4 forums if any other t mobile users need it. I've already used it to create a backup and it's working fine.
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Been there, done that today. Got TWRP installed and got rid of the extra crap Tmobile put on here.

I would just be happy with a debloated stock rom with some added options such as center clock and to clean up the status bar icon clutter (alarm, NFC, 2 data icons, battery mod.

crdnl. said:
Just going to hop in here to state that I'll be working to bring AICP to the G4 ASAP.
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I can't wait! Aicp was my daily driver on my g2 and n7.
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grneyez said:
You cant install roms without a custom recovery, and in order to get cutom recovery you need the bootloader unlocked. Only model currently able to unlock the bootloader is the EU model.
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player911 said:
I would just be happy with a debloated stock rom with some added options such as center clock and to clean up the status bar icon clutter (alarm, NFC, 2 data icons, battery mod.
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I honestly do not know why OEM's don't let us do that already. It's so utterly bizarre. In this day and age, we really shouldn't have to go to such extents for slightly more convenient/better looking icons in the status bar.
At least Sony lets its users customise the status bar a bit. My Xperia Z3+ lets me customise what icons are shown, but won't let me move the clock or change the battery icon.
The G4 will be a speed demon if it gets CM12.1 My only worry being the camera and if it'll still produce amazing shots. I know that the physical camera itself with its f1.8 aperture lens is the reason why low light shots are amazing, but I wonder how much of it is down to the software's post processing. Time will tell, I hope.

crdnl. said:
Just going to hop in here to state that I'll be working to bring AICP to the G4 ASAP.
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Sweet! My nexus 7 and M7 are running it at the moment

grneyez said:
You cant install roms without a custom recovery, and in order to get cutom recovery you need the bootloader unlocked. Only model currently able to unlock the bootloader is the EU model.
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False. TMobile can easily be unlocked via deveopler tab

thenewbigmack said:
False. TMobile can easily be unlocked via deveopler tab
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I was'nt talking about T-Mobile, I was referencing the 815 series.
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To my knowledge, using the Loki method does not require an unlocked bootloader.

Eric618 said:
To my knowledge, using the Loki method does not require an unlocked bootloader.
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Yeah, the G2 never got an unlocked bootloader. Loki and Bump got around that.