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Hey just before getting another nexus one wondered if anyone has heard of or predicts any price change for the unsubsidised version in the near future? I heard the HTC Bravo is coming out next month should I wait to see what happens in March?
cheers.
I'd wait until March, though frankly I doubt it: it's Google's current flagship device, blah blah. But just out of curiosity, why a second N1?
buying on behalf of a friend who's total noob. It says the vodafone and verizon versions are due to release in Spring 2010 maybe they'll introduce a new price then if not i doubt there'll be one soon after that
wait till monday. After the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona we'll have more info about future devices such as the Bravo and can more accurately calculate price-drops.
What exactly will be the benefit of waiting for the Bravo? Isn't it essentially the N1 with 720p video recording, a ugly black hardware design, and HTC Sense? I honestly see it as a downgrade. Since Sense will probably be ported over in a ROM, we already have Snapdragon, and I don't know any way to compensate for the 720p recording unless it is software related and can also be ported.
You're right, I don't even like Sense UI anymore. Cool, will wait for the MW Congress. Cheers
p.s. What do you think of ebay as a buying source?
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What exactly will be the benefit of waiting for the Bravo? Isn't it essentially the N1 with 720p video recording, a ugly black hardware design, and HTC Sense? I honestly see it as a downgrade. Since Sense will probably be ported over in a ROM, we already have Snapdragon, and I don't know any way to compensate for the 720p recording unless it is software related and can also be ported.
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720p recording is likely software. When the N1 first launched, the specs said 720p recording, then they pulled it since it wasn't supported yet. From the sounds of it, the Bravo has the exact same hardware, minus a few very small changes, and thus the added features should be portable.
It's only been out for a month, so I wouldn't count on it. Having a price drop that quick would only piss off all of us who bought it at full price.
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720p recording is likely software. When the N1 first launched, the specs said 720p recording, then they pulled it since it wasn't supported yet. From the sounds of it, the Bravo has the exact same hardware, minus a few very small changes, and thus the added features should be portable.
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Thanks for the clarification, that may be a feature I look forward to.
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It's only been out for a month, so I wouldn't count on it. Having a price drop that quick would only piss off all of us who bought it at full price.
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Sounds like something a certain fruit might do...
Well it doesn't look like anything exciting happened at Barcelona, just some lame Samsung Wave and some kiddie sony erricson toys
well that's because MWC only starts tomorrow offically
tomorrow we're also gonna see Intel and Nokia pull off some magic...
I don't think you will see a price drop for a while. The subsidized phone is CHEAP for what it is.... 179 on big red would make this phone a real winner... I just hate verizon for being to pushy with changing phone features.
The most important spec, unknown between the N1 and the Bravo, is the RAM. Most of the specs for the Bravo I've seens said it will have 320mb RAM, instead of the 512mb the N1 has. If this is the case then the Bravo is not an attractive alternative for me. If the Bravo has 512mb RAM. then I like the all black case styling, the optical mouse, and the hard buttons more than my N1.
Will it be possible to flash all the CyanogenMod ROMs we have now for the N1 directly to the Bravo, or will the developers have to re-invent the wheel to transfer the ROMs to the Bravo?
Well as far as I'm aware the nexus is restricted to using less ram because of the operating system so some ram goes to waste? Anyways I've put in the order for 2 nexus one's.... didn't avoid tax this time :S
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Well as far as I'm aware the nexus is restricted to using less ram because of the operating system so some ram goes to waste? Anyways I've put in the order for 2 nexus one's.... didn't avoid tax this time :S
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I believe people here have been working on a RAM hack for the Nexus One to allow it to use more of the available RAM, I'm not really that active in the Nexus One community since I don't yet have the phone, so don't quote me on this though.
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I believe people here have been working on a RAM hack for the Nexus One to allow it to use more of the available RAM, I'm not really that active in the Nexus One community since I don't yet have the phone, so don't quote me on this though.
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Actually, you're pretty much correct. If you're rooted, you can flash the updated kernel and your phone will utilize all the available RAM. Still waiting for Google to give us an OTA, since I'm not rooting this puppy.
Would it be stupid to pick one of these up right now? I am really unhappy with the current phone choices on the market. Everything is an iPhone clone. I just want something basic I can check maps/review sites/google directions. I also enjoy modding hardware and software and I know how much of a toy the G1 is to a lot of people in regards to playing with different roms.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Huge waste of money?
Perfectly nice phone. EXTREMELY versatile.
It has also come down in price since it was originally launched -- originally $399 US, now its down to $329.
If you aren't worried about your phone having the absolute fastest CPU or the most RAM, and like playing with it, then this is a GREAT phone to have.
And despite all the chicken little's out there, it has a LOT of life left in it. Android 2.1 (eclaire) runs fine on it (some people might say its dead slow, but that is only the case when using software GL -- the new builds with hardware GL drivers are ***almost*** ready....). Rumor has it that it will even get an OFFICIAL 2.1 upgrade at some point.
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Perfectly nice phone. EXTREMELY versatile.
It has also come down in price since it was originally launched -- originally $399 US, now its down to $329.
If you aren't worried about your phone having the absolute fastest CPU or the most RAM, and like playing with it, then this is a GREAT phone to have.
And despite all the chicken little's out there, it has a LOT of life left in it. Android 2.1 (eclaire) runs fine on it (some people might say its dead slow, but that is only the case when using software GL -- the new builds with hardware GL drivers are ***almost*** ready....). Rumor has it that it will even get an OFFICIAL 2.1 upgrade at some point.
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Thank you, this is exactly the kind of post I was looking for. Question: did most of the developers drop this for N1?
A good phone, yes, but as always, you start longing for the latest greatest hardware out there. No matter, the physical kbd of HTC Dream/ADP1 makes it well worth its money. I'd never get an Android phone with just on screen kbd. Never.
As a developer, having first gen hardware to test stuff on makes sure you don't create things that only the 2nd (or 3rd gen) hardware runs properly. I still love my ADP1. And probably will for at least a year more.
/Mats
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As a developer, having first gen hardware to test stuff on makes sure you don't create things that only the 2nd (or 3rd gen) hardware runs properly. I still love my ADP1. And probably will for at least a year more.
/Mats
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As long as there are potential customers with first gen devices out there, there will always be a purpose to have an ADP1 or something similar around for development.
As for just consumer usage, i'd say just find a G1 on fleabay or CL. It will run much less and with the proper hackery can function just as well as ADP1.
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As long as there are potential customers with first gen devices out there, there will always be a purpose to have an ADP1 or something similar around for development.
As for just consumer usage, i'd say just find a G1 on fleabay or CL. It will run much less and with the proper hackery can function just as well as ADP1.
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The only side effects of that are the potential to get something that is broken or rogers...
And not to mention the cool battery cover graphics
Just picked it up. Now I just need to find a class 6 which is turning out ot be a bit harder than I thought, suggestions?
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Just picked it up. Now I just need to find a class 6 which is turning out ot be a bit harder than I thought, suggestions?
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http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/ipad_sales_fall/
El Reg has an interesting article on iPad sales, which mentions the Note and its meteoric rise!
The Note related part is quoted here:
Premakumar said the rise of Samsung has been more marked since the autumn, "predominantly driven by the Galaxy Note whose sales through distribution has increased by over twenty times between October and April".
Back in October Samsung sold 3,519 Notes but this had soared to 73,390 by April, accounting for 75 per cent of Samsung's total tablet sales.
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Dave
Hmmm , he considers the note a tablet, It`s a large phone to me.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Hmmm , he considers the note a tablet, It`s a large phone to me.
John.
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If you read full article, it states at the end:
Readers may dispute that the Note is a fondleslab but Context categorises any device with a five inch screen size or larger as a tablet.
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Personally, I consider it both a phone and a tablet - I use it as my primary phone, and my tablets seldom get used over the Note.
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We all have seen this already,
Who doesn't remember the golden days of nokia for example?? This is being a race for brands to get up to the top with ideas and devices. Today it's samsung tomorrow some other brand makes a revolutionary new device and sells like.....
One thing i've noticed is that all brands and devices have lack of durability and finnishing touches, take the htc's it seems they are manufactured with a lot of gaps, apple has some probelms too..... Samsung also has some problems, if i give 500€ for a device it should be top of tops in durability and performance. I know software related bugs are being solved in all brands, i know that they all want get their investment money back as soon as possible but maybe it's time to look at the finnished product and give us more quality.
IMO Samsung HW build quality is not even close to Nokia. Even HTC's build quality is better than Samsung (I have HD2). Problem with Nokia nowadays, is that, of HW specs. Samsung's HW specs, specifically the high end ones are just top notch. Design however is pathetic.
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Problem with Nokia nowadays, is that, of HW specs.
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Actually, I don't think it's hardware specs so much as software, that's the source of Nokia's woes.
They staked the farm on WP7, when moving to Android or continuing to develop Meego would've been a far better bet.
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Nokia high quality?
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IMO Samsung HW build quality is not even close to Nokia. Even HTC's build quality is better than Samsung (I have HD2). Problem with Nokia nowadays, is that, of HW specs. Samsung's HW specs, specifically the high end ones are just top notch. Design however is pathetic.
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I work @ an finish operator and i have to say nokia phones suck. Most of nokia phones goes to service within 4 months of usage, and then it comes back and nothing is fixed. approximately one phone gets 3 round trips to service here :/
Samsung gets lots and lots of complaints about slow update processes.
We do not customize our android roms so we should get them fast, but samsung is so bad at updating android so i would like to give our customers the links to xda.
I decided to fund it earlier today and I haven't seen anything posted about it on here so I thought I would start a thread to get some more opinions on it.
Anyways here is a link to the kickstarter. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ch-complete-smart-watch-w-revolutionary-pri-0
Has anyone else ordered one?
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I funded mine a couple of weeks ago. It's a nice looking watch, my only concern is that it did not get anywhere close to the funding of the pebble which might limit the amount of Apps that will get developed. Any thoughts?
You may be right about app development. That's one thing I didn't consider.
It does offer most everything I want in a smart watch and in my opinion it's the better looking of the ones that I have seen.
Which one did you place a order for? I put one in for the Curve.
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I like them but I think I will wait as I reckon they will release one soon with the coloured e ink display like the Qualcomm Toq. I do like the idea of private calls though just wish they had used a coloured display that will give days before charging.
I ordered the Curve also, it looks more sleek than the others and you have to admit , at half the price of the newly released Galaxy Gear, it's worth it. The galaxy gear is very nice looking , does it all but with a charge that will only last 24 hr and a price tag of $300, I think the Hot watch will be more than a good purchase . I will definitely consider Apple's smart watch when it comes out. It will probably be the priciest of all the mainstream smart watches but hopefully it will last longer on a single charge and look great.Cant wait!! Should be interesting. Does anyone think this is just a fad or will smart watches be around for awhile. Smart phone display screens have been getting bigger, can we live with a smaller screen?
I originally funded the curve as well.
I reduced my pledge to no reward yesterday however.
I feel that the Qualcomm Toq is a better smartwatch, and will be getting that instead.
The color always-on Marisol display is superior to the black and white of the HOT. And the purported UI of the HOT looks primitive compared to the simple yet functional of the Toq's
And the private calling of the HOT feels more like a gimmick that a practical feature.
There appears to be better overall design thinking on the Toq; real practical features designed for real world use.
Wishing the HOT team the best of luck.
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I ordered the Curve also, it looks more sleek than the others and you have to admit , at half the price of the newly released Galaxy Gear, it's worth it. The galaxy gear is very nice looking , does it all but with a charge that will only last 24 hr and a price tag of $300, I think the Hot watch will be more than a good purchase . I will definitely consider Apple's smart watch when it comes out. It will probably be the priciest of all the mainstream smart watches but hopefully it will last longer on a single charge and look great.Cant wait!! Should be interesting. Does anyone think this is just a fad or will smart watches be around for awhile. Smart phone display screens have been getting bigger, can we live with a smaller screen?
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I think they are here to stay and will start catching on like wildfire over the next few years. Especially once the technology starts mature and we start seeing the flexible OLED screens make a appearance.
I don't see it ever completely replacing the smartphone phone, at least not in the near future. I think it will stay a device that merely compliments your smartphone.
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This is my first Kickstarter funding and will be my first smartwatch. I'm getting the Edge. Being 8mm thick was the selling point for me. Most of the others are at least 20mm thick, which seems unwieldy. I hope the company pulls it off and the watch is what we want it to be.
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Most of the others are at least 20mm thick, which seems unwieldy.
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Where are you looking? I've been looking for months and none of the 2013 smartwatches are 20mm. I can say that if I was going for a feature limited device the Hot Watch does have a nice dress watch look to it.
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Where are you looking? I've been looking for months and none of the 2013 smartwatches are 20mm. I can say that if I was going for a feature limited device the Hot Watch does have a nice dress watch look to it.
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Why would you say that the Hot watch is feature limited, it has more than the Pebble which has had huge success . Granted it is not a stand alone like Samsung which has its own disadvantages , and if you ask me, having a camera on your watch is just creepy !!
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Why would you say that the Hot watch is feature limited, it has more than the Pebble which has had huge success . Granted it is not a stand alone like Samsung which has its own disadvantages , and if you ask me, having a camera on your watch is just creepy !!
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To me a smartwatch should be able it interact with your smart house, smart (insert appliance here) and various other host smart devices. Until it does it's a remote for your phone and not much else.
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Where are you looking? I've been looking for months and none of the 2013 smartwatches are 20mm. I can say that if I was going for a feature limited device the Hot Watch does have a nice dress watch look to it.
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You are right, I was way off about thickness. I was thinking of some of the ones that can make phone calls that are huge. Nevertheless, the Hot Watch is still the thinnest. Galaxy Gear is 11mm.
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Why would you say that the Hot watch is feature limited, it has more than the Pebble which has had huge success . Granted it is not a stand alone like Samsung which has its own disadvantages , and if you ask me, having a camera on your watch is just creepy !!
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I did fund the Pebble on kickstarter and was one of the folks whose pebble got bricked after a firmware update.
Sure, they sent me a new one, and I gave that one to my boss.
I didn't consider the pebble a true smartwatch either. I have had lots of wearables through the years; Sony's LiveWatch, 5 Spot watches, 2 SonyEricsson Bluetooth watches.
The Toq is closer to being an all around smartwatch. Low power, daylight legible display, touchscreen, no gimmicks, and a phone companion.
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Ok, IMO, if you are willing to pay $300 for a Toq, you might as well get the new Samsung. It is a stand alone smartwatch. It is said that Qualcomm is just putting its toe into smart watches to try to sell its reflective screen technology, which Ive read has been problematic. They are only introducing 10 000 units on the market whereas Samsung will be flooding the market with 500 000 units a much more serious player who plans on staying around for a while and will invest in their product. That's if you want to spend $300 for a smart watch. I believe that the Hot watches' nice style will be a wearable piece even after the smart watch fad is over, as per "them". Maybe " they " are right are right and it will be just a fad but no one can predict the future .
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Ok, IMO, if you are willing to pay $300 for a Toq, you might as well get the new Samsung. It is a stand alone smartwatch. It is said that Qualcomm is just putting its toe into smart watches to try to sell its reflective screen technology, which Ive read has been problematic. They are only introducing 10 000 units on the market whereas Samsung will be flooding the market with 500 000 units a much more serious player who plans on staying around for a while and will invest in their product. That's if you want to spend $300 for a smart watch. I believe that the Hot watches' nice style will be a wearable piece even after the smart watch fad is over, as per "them". Maybe " they " are right are right and it will be just a fad but no one can predict the future .
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Now I've read the "stand alone" and "can make calls" about the Samsung in a ton of places. Has anybody seen anything official about this? You know, something like GSM/CDMA bands. I've been digging through every bit of info I can find (read- google search results page 20+) and have found nothing regarding GSM or CDMA support. That would be kind of key to be able to make calls and sync data on it's own.
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To me a smartwatch should be able it interact with your smart house, smart (insert appliance here) and various other host smart devices. Until it does it's a remote for your phone and not much else.
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IMO , I don't think it is so much of a smart watch issue as much as it is an App issue for the smart appliance people to put out to control their smart appliancets. We can control many appliances with our smart phones because the manufacturers have put out apps for them. When and if the smart watches get as popular as cell phones , then they will do what it takes to be compatible with their products, they will have to if they want to market their product properly
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Now I've read the "stand alone" and "can make calls" about the Samsung in a ton of places. Has anybody seen anything official about this? You know, something like GSM/CDMA bands. I've been digging through every bit of info I can find (read- google search results page 20+) and have found nothing regarding GSM or CDMA support. That would be kind of key to be able to make calls and sync data on it's own.
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Apparently this was said at their release of the Samsung smart watch. I know of another smart watch that says in print that is is a stand alone, it will use 2g and 3g on American frequencies and European, it's called Omate.
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IMO , I don't think it is so much of a smart watch issue as much as it is an App issue for the smart appliance people to put out to control their smart appliancets. We can control many appliances with our smart phones because the manufacturers have put out apps for them. When and if the smart watches get as popular as cell phones , then they will do what it takes to be compatible with their products, they will have to if they want to market their product properly
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Apparently this was said at their release of the Samsung smart watch. I know of another smart watch that says in print that is is a stand alone, it will use 2g and 3g on American frequencies and European, it's called Omate.
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I stand corrected , Samsung's Gear is not being marketed as a stand alone watch , but Omate is
Well, the Kickstarter campaign has ended and they raised more than 4 times as much as they sought, so it's been a success financially. Now we get to wait 3 months and see if they can really pull it off. My fingers are crossed.
I can't wait to see full support for 64 bit processors.. I feel the Nexus 9 should perform better.. Something tells me the OS and apps are not fully 64bit compliant yet. Any thoughts..? How has performance been for the rest of you guys/gals..?
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I can't wait to see full support for 64 bit processors.. I feel the Nexus 9 should perform better.. Something tells me the OS and apps are not fully 64bit compliant yet. Any thoughts..? How has performance been for the rest of you guys/gals..?
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This is one of the main reasons why I am returning mine, what's the point? It'll be quite some time before we see full support for 64 bit processors. We're paying this high of a price NOW for a tablet that the OS isn't even optimized for. That's the difference between apple and google, iOS is built around the hardware and for a limited amount of products; whereas android is built for a large variety of devices so it never really can be optimized for a specific tablet or phone because it has to cater to so many different devices with different specs.
Android should be flawless on a nexus device, after all a nexus device is supposed to set the tone and be an example of what android is.....too bad, because that is not the case with the n9.
Fwiw, I think the n9 is nice and all, got a lot of love for it but for what I paid for my 32gb n9 I expected more. I could live with a lil light bleeding and some recessed buttons but the lack of optimization and the battery life is unforgiving at this price. I bought the n9 to find out that maybe down the line at some point it will become the product I though that I was purchasing in the first place, if that makes any sense.
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Yeah I'm debating the return myself.. It does not perform the way it should. Question is will they ever optimize the OS for it...?
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May i find out the areas which you feel the OS is not optimized? Is it the battery life?
When playing music or YouTube the tablet stutters and exhibits pops and clicks in the audio. It may just be the software is not optimized.. But for $600 it damm well should be. Given the way google handles things they could very well move on to the next thing and were left holding the bag.
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May i find out the areas which you feel the OS is not optimized? Is it the battery life?
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Battery life should be better, don't get me wrong it's OK, I get may 7 hours but at this price 12 hours should be that norm. My n9 should not stutter, this thing is fast and you can tell....its sad but its kinda reminds me of touchwiz, the way it holds back Samsung's great hardware. Another thing that has bothered me is why no 3gb of ram? They are charging us a pretty penny and skimping on specs, the n9 is a ram hog. Right now with just the XDA app running usage is over 60% which is ridiculous.
At this price point you have to compare it to the iPad mini and or airs, apple just does so much of a better job all around. Apple has set the standard for what a high-end tablet should be and perform and the n9 comes close but it's not there yet. Had they added micro SD, I could overlook some things but this is a Nexus and we are too "dumb" to use a micro SD card. Its a great tablet but not at the price Google is charging, people are going to keep complaining because they expect more (as they should) for their money.
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Battery life should be better, don't get me wrong it's OK, I get may 7 hours but at this price 12 hours should be that norm. My n9 should not stutter, this thing is fast and you can tell....its sad but its kinda reminds me of touchwiz, the way it holds back Samsung's great hardware. Another thing that has bothered me is why no 3gb of ram? They are charging us a pretty penny and skimping on specs, the n9 is a ram hog. Right now with just the XDA app running usage is over 60% which is ridiculous.
At this price point you have to compare it to the iPad mini and or airs, apple just does so much of a better job all around. Apple has set the standard for what a high-end tablet should be and perform and the n9 comes close but it's not there yet. Had they added micro SD, I could overlook some things but this is a Nexus and we are too "dumb" to use a micro SD card. Its a great tablet but not at the price Google is charging, people are going to keep complaining because they expect more (as they should) for their money.
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Agreed with what you said, except my battery life is only about 5hrs as I mostly surf on browser. Coming from an old iPad 2, this is one of my biggest disappointment. No tablet should have <8hrs SOT for normal usage to me. And as if not bad enough, the battery charging rate is almost the same or slower than the draining rate. What's Google doing!!
I'm ok with no SD card, but feel Google should give 64gb storage and 3g ram too.
Only things that's keeping me are lollipop, the tablet size/design and my refusal to go back to iOS.
64gb storage, 3gb ram, Qi charging by default and OPTIMIZE LOLLIPOP FOR 64BIT ARCHITECTURE.!
As it stands now this thing is not optimized for the hardware.
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I am let down by 32 Gig only but I cope.
Put only what I need on the tablet (and a bit extra), the rest.... use the cloud.
My Note 3 has 3 Gig RAM and the Nexus 9 does not .... hard time explaining that but this is not Google' s choice, Google does not make the tablet.
Did people spend $800, $900 on this?
I did not I find the price ok.
I believe it will not take years to see 64bit apps, it will take months. (I can wait)
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I am let down by 32 Gig only but I cope.
Put only what I need on the tablet (and a bit extra), the rest.... use the cloud.
My Note 3 has 3 Gig RAM and the Nexus 9 does not .... hard time explaining that but this is not Google' s choice, Google does not make the tablet.
Did people spend $800, $900 on this?
I did not I find the price ok.
I believe it will not take years to see 64bit apps, it will take months. (I can wait)
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Hmm, how can it not be Google's choice. Google can't be telling HTC "Make me a tablet any way you like" right?
HTC makes Nexus 9, not Google.
I am sure Google has the say about the OS but not sure about the hardware.
2 Gig annoyed me but I am a big boy and said well it is still a Nexus device.... I will go for it.
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I am let down by 32 Gig only but I cope.
Put only what I need on the tablet (and a bit extra), the rest.... use the cloud.
My Note 3 has 3 Gig RAM and the Nexus 9 does not .... hard time explaining that but this is not Google' s choice, Google does not make the tablet.
Did people spend $800, $900 on this?
I did not I find the price ok.
I believe it will not take years to see 64bit apps, it will take months. (I can wait)
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522 in NYC after taxes, that's iPad money, I expect an iPad like experience. I'm not about putting up with bs at this price point, I shouldn't have to wait for optimization. Its acceptable to you and I understand that but it isn't to me, these companies want to let out inefficient devices and or products and we are the ones who have to deal with it? Negative, not this time.
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HTC makes Nexus 9, not Google.
I am sure Google has the say about the OS but not sure about the hardware.
2 Gig annoyed me but I am a big boy and said well it is still a Nexus device.... I will go for it.
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Google is the one that designs, sets the specs and tells HTC what to build it isn't the other way around. HTC is just a subcontractor that deals with manufacturing. The way you're putting it is like google is doing what HTC wants and google had no say in the hardware....are you kidding me? google is the one with all the leverage here, no disrespect but you make no sense from a business point of view.
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Cant wait for a review on this.
The 2GB RAM is most likely because nvidia wouldn't provide them with a TK1 SoC variant with more ram than that.
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Google is the one that designs, sets the specs and tells HTC what to build it isn't the other way around. HTC is just a subcontractor that deals with manufacturing. The way you're putting it is like google is doing what HTC wants and google had no say in the hardware....are you kidding me? google is the one with all the leverage here, no disrespect but you make no sense from a business point of view.
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You are the one that makes no sense, but believe what you may.
There is no way a software company goes to any hardware company and says to them ..... build it like this or else.
I worked for hardware manufacturer and it is always a compromise the customer says they want this, the company says too expensive we can do this.
The customer then says how about this, the manufacturer...
Continues to they get a compromise both sides can live with.
I know because this was part of my job.
Got a Smartwatch 3 you think maybe Google went to Sony and said Sony add no heart rate sensor .... or else?
You think they went to Motorola and they owned Motorola at the time and ordered them to use obsolete processors?
The original question is about performance and I answered It I am happy enough.
You want to believe Google went to HTC and says this is what we want you build of else.... what do I care?
Stay on topic.
I am happy with the performance as is
When there are more apps written for the 64 bit Tegra it will smoke everything else...... I my own opinion
AstroDigital said:
You are the one that makes no sense, but believe what you may.
There is no way a software company goes to any hardware company and says to them ..... build it like this or else.
I worked for hardware manufacturer and it is always a compromise the customer says they want this, the company says too expensive we can do this.
The customer then says how about this, the manufacturer...
Continues to they get a compromise both sides can live with.
I know because this was part of my job.
Got a Smartwatch 3 you think maybe Google went to Sony and said Sony add no heart rate sensor .... or else?
You think they went to Motorola and they owned Motorola at the time and ordered them to use obsolete processors?
The original question is about performance and I answered It I am happy enough.
You want to believe Google went to HTC and says this is what we want you build of else.... what do I care?
Stay on topic.
I am happy with the performance as is
When there are more apps written for the 64 bit Tegra it will smoke everything else...... I my own opinion
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You are leaving out one important thing and that is that HTC is in no position of power, they are declining across the board. They need google more than Goole needs them so to think that google had no say in the hardware is absolutely asinine. HTC told Google we're making it like this or kick rocks....PLEASE! You proved my point in stating that it is a compromise, meaning google had to make a decision and they obviously did. I agree with that statement but you made it seem like htc tells google what they are doing point blank and google says yes HTC. HTC can't build the n9 without google signing off on the product as I'm sure you are aware of so google had the final say.
I'm done.
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I want to believe this.. I was telling myself things are not optimized for the chip and architecture and it will get better. They only thing left is the light bleed I see.
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AstroDigital said:
HTC makes Nexus 9, not Google.
I am sure Google has the say about the OS but not sure about the hardware.
2 Gig annoyed me but I am a big boy and said well it is still a Nexus device.... I will go for it.
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If it's anything like the Nexus 7, then Google Engineers worked with HTC engineers to design the Nexus 9. But at the end the Nexus is a Google product and they are the ones with the final say in how the hardware is designed.
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/mo...ned-the-google-nexus-7-in-four-months-1089680
So will this rumored 5.1 update slated to hit first quarter 2015 be some TLC for this tablet..?
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