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Am i the only one that has noticed some significant slowdowns in android 4.3 as opposed to 4.2.2? Even simple things like pulling down the notification bar or swiping between tabs in chrome have laggy animations now, which wasn't the case before.
Most will say it's just you. What ROM are you using?
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Do a clean install and see if that helps. I've never experienced anything slow with this phone.
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Ive never had anything else but stock rom on this phone, never even rooted it.
I'm on stock rooted 4.3 and it's significantly smoother. Haven't even bothered flashing anything else because I'm so satisfied, plus I wanted to experience stock awhile so I know what is what.
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Ive never had anything else but stock rom on this phone, never even rooted it.
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Mine felt that way for a day but seemed to really smooth out after a few reboots and time I believe it might be the way the new OS deals with the phones data just needs a bit of time to smooth itself out.
The OTA update has made my phone nothing but faster which is great because this phone was never even close to being slow in the first place.
i've been using Slimbean 4.3 Build 1 Alpha and its really smooth, only a couple of known bugs. Faster than Weekly 7.8.
jb91 said:
Am i the only one that has noticed some significant slowdowns in android 4.3 as opposed to 4.2.2? Even simple things like pulling down the notification bar or swiping between tabs in chrome have laggy animations now, which wasn't the case before.
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Yes, I have the exact same issue as you. Driving me nuts. I'm running the stock rom but Faux kernel. Unfortunately, I don't recall if I had this issue prior to the kernel change. Going to try to revert back to stock kernel. If that doesn't help I'm going to re-flash from scratch. I flashed the OTA...maybe something went wrong.
UPDATE: I flashed back to the stock kernel and all lag in the animations are gone. Everything is silky smooth. I had tried different CPU governors in faux kernel before going back to stock but they all had the same lag. Odd though, I've never had performance issues with faux before.
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Am i the only one that has noticed some significant slowdowns in android 4.3 as opposed to 4.2.2? Even simple things like pulling down the notification bar or swiping between tabs in chrome have laggy animations now, which wasn't the case before.
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Swiping down the notification panel is too glitchy. And also when I take screenshot, it slows down and I am not able to see the SC's animation.
It is noticeably slow for me. Even home screen animations are slow.
Any fix guys?
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It is noticeably slow for me. Even home screen animations are slow.
Any fix guys?
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Try a clean flash of stock 4.3 ROM (JWR66V) since a lot of the custom ROMs are in the early stages of development. Maybe refrain from flashing a custom kernel until you experience 100% stock for a bit.
Totally stock and mine seems to be performing better than it was.
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I tried than kanged
It did seem a littly off to me. I did a factory reset after receiving it ota but I couldn't do stock. Seemed like the phone got hotter quicker and touch responsiveness was a little slow also IMO
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It did seem a littly off to me. I did a factory reset after receiving it ota but I couldn't do stock. Seemed like the phone got hotter quicker and touch responsiveness was a little slow also IMO
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Weird.
Anyway, I'll see you @ snappy convenient store.
I am experiencing this too, but I am on Rasbean 4.3. For some reason compared to stoch, Rasbean feels choppy. IDK why because RAS is an amazing developer. I did a full wipe too anyone else experience this on 4.3 custom roms?
jb91 said:
Am i the only one that has noticed some significant slowdowns in android 4.3 as opposed to 4.2.2? Even simple things like pulling down the notification bar or swiping between tabs in chrome have laggy animations now, which wasn't the case before.
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Just done what you have listed above and the answer is no; its not slower, at least my stock install. I don't have bugs like the weird black bar when selecting recently used apps
. I'll continue to monitor but for now its fine.
I experienced the same less than smooth performance as well. It got a little better in smoothness and less bugging out over time, but it may just be me getting acquainted with it and being a placebo.
This was from a factory image flash, but I may give it a go again if it continues to be a problem. I doubt it'll fix it.
Just got a new Nexus 4 (white) and updated it to 4.3... Smooth as N4 has always been... Completely stock
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I am experiencing this too, but I am on Rasbean 4.3. For some reason compared to stoch, Rasbean feels choppy. IDK why because RAS is an amazing developer. I did a full wipe too anyone else experience this on 4.3 custom roms?
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I'm sure it's just AOSP. Things will get smoothed out in the weeks to come, I'm sure.
Its there. And it happens a lot. On 4.2.2 and on 4.3. I had to disable all transitions/animations because it is annoying to have a beastly phone with choppy stuttering animations
Inb4 my HTC one is silky smooth.. ..
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Its there. And it happens a lot. On 4.2.2 and on 4.3. I had to disable all transitions/animations because it is annoying to have a beastly phone with choppy stuttering animations
Inb4 my HTC one is silky smooth.. ..
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I don't have any of the issues you are referring to. My One GPE runs extremely smoothly with transitions/animations.
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Its there. And it happens a lot. On 4.2.2 and on 4.3. I had to disable all transitions/animations because it is annoying to have a beastly phone with choppy stuttering animations
Inb4 my HTC one is silky smooth.. ..
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Uhhh maybe because most people aren't having issues with chopiness? What GE rom(s) have you been using? I've been running sinless and it's silky smooth.
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No problems here either
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I think I'm running the first or second 4.2.2 ROM that came out. I also used the 4.3 ROM with the ridiculous huge icons and the animations stutter. Not all the time. But quite often.
Tell me what ROM you guys are using which is not choppy?
Running sinless and I don't have the choppiness. It's 4.3 as well. Have you tried fully wiping before flashing?
Ive run all the GE's 4.3 and it seems pretty choppy for the specs. For example, scrolling to side pictures in gallery isn't perfectly smooth. I didn't notice the very slight choppiness until I met the Moto X, which has worse specs but seems to pull out on top in overall smoothness
Android just isn't perfectly smooth. You have to deal with it. There was a reason for Google Project Butter in the first place and I highly doubt they could fix all the lag in a one go. However, don't get me wrong. The current state of smoothness is manageable and perfectly fine. Yet for a trained eye it is still not at the level of iOS.
All the guys saying their android device is perfectly smooth were probably saying the same thing back in the ICS days. Until they realized that it can be smoother after Google announced Project Butter.
I'm running the stock 4.3 image posted up and I do very occasionally get a few dropped frames but nothing to bother me about - quite surprised how well it runs tbh!
I have the HTC One GPE edition and there is no choppyness at all. My Nexus 4 was very choppy on 4.2.2 but it went almost away with 4.3. Still HTC One is much smoother.
I remember noticing this when I did GE convertion on 4.2.2. I think i figured out that the stock kernel is ramping up the cpu frequency too slow sometimes, try the performance CPU governor as see if things gets smoother. Haven't noticed the lag on 4.3 tho, not sure if it disappeared or I just got used to it. I noticed the same behavior on my Nexus 4 sometimes.
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I went from iPhone 5 to the HTC one and converted it to Google play edition. I am running 4.3 and see little to no difference in smoothness between the one and the iPhone.
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Its there. And it happens a lot. On 4.2.2 and on 4.3. I had to disable all transitions/animations because it is annoying to have a beastly phone with choppy stuttering animations
Inb4 my HTC one is silky smooth.. ..
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Yes it's true. With sense I never had a shred of stutter but I'm on my second stock GE 4.3 and still have to lower animation settings to look "perfect". I'm still happy though, few tiny stutters don't bother me but makes me wonder why sense never did that.
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Buy an iPhone
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Buy an iPhone
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That troll face fits you well sir.
Better yet try AHRD. Its the bee's knees.
"why is nobody mentioning the choppy animations in the GE??"
On a stock unmolested GPE (4.3) - no choppiness whatsoever. Animations fly like turd off a lubricated shovel.
I am having same problem on GE 4.3 .... However i thought its because of Modaco Switch that i am using...
The htc sense 5 is very smooth ... Hats off to HTC for that... I had been using iphones from years .. Until i sold iphone 5 to get Htc one...smoothness is not on par with iphones but enough to satisfy me... Thanks HTC
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Android just isn't perfectly smooth. You have to deal with it. There was a reason for Google Project Butter in the first place and I highly doubt they could fix all the lag in a one go. However, don't get me wrong. The current state of smoothness is manageable and perfectly fine. Yet for a trained eye it is still not at the level of iOS.
All the guys saying their android device is perfectly smooth were probably saying the same thing back in the ICS days. Until they realized that it can be smoother after Google announced Project Butter.
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I agree 100%. Android will probably never be as smooth as an iPhone. And so what. I personally could care less if my phone drops a few frames here and there. If people have the time to worry about it then they should just get an iPhone or WP if they want a super smooth UI/UX. An to answer the question, OP, I am on 100% stock GPE 4.3 and i rarely see and lags. If there are, they are very subtle and i almost never notice them at all.
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I agree 100%. Android will probably never be as smooth as an iPhone. And so what. I personally could care less if my phone drops a few frames here and there. If people have the time to worry about it then they should just get an iPhone or WP if they want a super smooth UI/UX. An to answer the question, OP, I am on 100% stock GPE 4.3 and i rarely see and lags. If there are, they are very subtle and i almost never notice them at all.
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That's definitely not a fact. I use and setup iPhone 4/4s, 5's and they still have stutters and hiccups like jelly bean. No difference. I hate it when people's default answer is "get an iPhone for perfection". Obviously you haven't used enough iPhones to get an educated opinion.
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That's definitely not a fact. I use and setup iPhone 4/4s, 5's and they still have stutters and hiccups like jelly bean. No difference. I hate it when people's default answer is "get an iPhone for perfection". Obviously you haven't used enough iPhones to get an educated opinion.
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Well, sure they have hiccups from time to time, like for example the new youtube app on the iphone 4, it lags as hell, but things like that are to be expected.
I was talking solely about the fluidity of the UI animations, I am still amazed how fluid my fiance's iphone 4 is when I get to use it.
And nobody said about iphone being perfect. Like myself for example, there is a reason I have switched from iphone to android devices and I am not planning to go back.
I am just admitting that iOS was always better in regard of UI animations despite the inferior hardware. Android on the other hand is getting there, or the current generation cpus are (getting ready for android) I should say .
Hi ,
How is the overall performance of nexus 7 2012 after the kitkat update , kindly provide the pros and cons after the update.this could help me decide whether i should go for 2012 model or 2013 model.
If you are trying to decide between new and old, obviously go for the 2013, CPU is faster as well as more RAM. ART is also available on the new one.
As for issues, I don't have any with my 2012 so far on KRT16S. Adobe Flash no longer works because of chromium engine so if thats a big thing for you, may want to stay with 4.3
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If you are trying to decide between new and old, obviously go for the 2013, CPU is faster as well as more RAM. ART is also available on the new one.
As for issues, I don't have any with my 2012 so far on KRT16S. Adobe Flash no longer works because of chromium engine so if thats a big thing for you, may want to stay with 4.3
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Well the old one is cheaper though.. By quite a bit actually.
So does that mean flash won't even work with other browsers?
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Unless you don't have enough cash for 2013, go for 2012, it's still a great device and I never leave home without it, but 2013 is not really all that expensive, so the choice is clear.
Pros:
- it is smooth (but I factory reset it to install kitkat, so I don't know how it would've been if I just updated from previous version), but it was like this for every version
- transparent task and nav bars (with GEL or nova launcher, only on launcher though)
- clock font is the same again (in 4.2 the hours were bold while minutes were normal - I liked it this way more though)
- there's a new icon if you pull down notification bar on the right side
- battery life is good, but it's always been good
Cons:
- OTA rootkeeper doesn't work anymore, you have to manually re-root it every time
- 4.4 is pretty much the same as ICS except with slightly different icons and colors.
- lots of services still don't work outside US and couple of extra countries (play magazines, play movies...)
I don't know, it's android, it does everything, but starts to lag after a while and batteries die and such, I like my Nexus 7 2012 very much, if it broke (knock knock on the table, don't break!) I'd get a 2013 one, not 2012.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vmhpivfu725it3v/Screenshot_2013-11-22-10-56-05.png
Obviously ours is cheaper but if it was me I'd rather spend the extra and have the newer hardware.. not to mention 2012 is creeping up on that 18 month EOL Galaxy Nexus just dealt with, the newer one will still be getting updates.
As for Flash its dead except for Puffin which apparently runs slow ppl talking about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531015
Depends what funds you have available. I don't leave home without it and wouldn't swap it. Been working on KitKat for a while and no major issues and a lot less "lag" on 4.4 than on 4.3 :good:
Nope, OTA suvival works!
I was running a custom rom for 4.3 and 4.2.2 that was heavily optimized for this device by experienced developers on this forum. And the roms were SO MUCH smoother and faster than stock rom google provided. Now that 4.4 is available, I'm just trying out the stock rom by google, and man..I don't like the performance. There are quite often stuttering moments, and I am eagerly waiting for a stable custom rom based on 4.4. I'm pretty sure 2013 version, you don't really need to have a custom rom to make it super smooth, because I have the nexus 4, very similar hardware as 2013 nexus 7, and my nexus 4 runs very smoothly with google's official 4.4 firmware.
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Well... it was with a heavy heart, that this afternoon, I took the decision to downgrade my Nexus 7 from KitKat 4.4 back to Jellybean 4.3.
Too many issues that I feel are wrong with KitKat... the lack of visual clarity on the WiFi icon, and particularly with the battery icon when the device is recharging.
But the real deal breaker for me is that KitKat 'breaks' the AOSP browser.
Although there is an AOSP KitKat compliant browser available that will run on the first generation Nexus 7, it's tied to Chromium WebView (instead of WebKit), and functionally, it's essentially identical to Chrome. And like Chrome, it lacks the speed of AOSP... further, it also lacks the one single critical feature that I believe any web browser needs to have in order to provide a satisfying browsing experience on any mobile device - and that feature is text-flow. What is the point in having pinch'n'zoom capabilty on any device, if the text doesn't reflow and reformat itself? So much effort using Chrome, panning right, left and then right again... just to read something!
Of course, it could be argued, that there are many third party web browsers on Google PlayStore that provide this functionality... and some do indeed make a pretty good stab at it. Opera Classic for example... Maxthon is another... but all too often, these browsers lack the lightening fast speed of the AOSP browser... maybe because they are encumbered with lots of useless (to me, anyway) features.
For reasons which utterly escape me, Google have been 'pushing' Chrome for Android as though it was the last word in Android browsers - IMHO, it simply isn't. There are far better browsers available on Playstore... but not a single one comes even close to the experience afforded by the AOSP browser.
All of which would be tolerable, if KitKat didn't force AOSP based browsers down the Chromium WebView path... so for me, Android 4.4 KitKat has essentially ruined my browsing experience - and for this reason, I spent the afternoon fastboot flashing my Nexus 7 back to Jellybean 4.3, and then restoring my apps via Titanium... a real time consuming nuisance, but if I wished to continue to use my Nexus 7, predominantly for web browsing, it had to be done.
I'm now back on build JWR66Y, reinstalled the AOSP browser, and everything just works... the way it should... and the way it used to... before KitKat.
Rgrds,
Ged.
The Kit Kat update was so buggy that it drove me away. I went out and bought a dell venue 8 pro today. The tablet was only 279 and has full blown windows 8.1 AND I don't have to hack it in order use flash sites.
Ota was very smooth ,and so far on my n7 2012 its running fab , no delay , only a few odd games don't work ,but its very nice so far
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to find out exciting new features on KitKat.
The performance of stock KitKat is good for
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with M-kernel is faster and smooth without over clocking the CPU. The battery life last longer .
KitKat ROM has many new features that worth the
upgrade from android 4.3.
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Although there is an AOSP KitKat compliant browser available that will run on the first generation Nexus 7, it's tied to Chromium WebView (instead of WebKit), and functionally, it's essentially identical to Chrome. And like Chrome, it lacks the speed of AOSP... further, it also lacks the one single critical feature that I believe any web browser needs to have in order to provide a satisfying browsing experience on any mobile device - and that feature is text-flow. What is the point in having pinch'n'zoom capabilty on any device, if the text doesn't reflow and reformat itself? So much effort using Chrome, panning right, left and then right again... just to read something!
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Oof. I was afraid of this (I use Naked Browser Pro). Thanks for confirming the worst. Had similar feelings about Chromium-based Opera (nowhere near as fast as old WebView).
An awful lot of browsers rely on WebView, which makes me think this was a clear move to make all of them suck as badly as Chrome. Not that Google was under any obligation to help their competition, but it's still a crap move.
I do wonder if anyone will take the effort to fill the now difficult speedy browser niche on KitKat. You'd have to either:
1.) Port old WebView
2.) Fork, fix, and optimize Chromium (if that's even possible), or
3.) Use an entirely different engine (possibly your own).
None of these options are great, dev-wise ... and unless we're talking about Naked Browser, any new option is almost guaranteed to come with privacy issues (ads, trackers, etc.)
Given that WebView is part of the ROM, I wonder if OmniROM would be interested in eventually fixing this.
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Kit Kat performance is exactly the same as 4.3, no better or worse. It's OK but gets laggy at times. By no means would I consider the 2012 model quick at this point and you should definitely get the 2013 model.
Overall I consider the first gen nexus 7 a big disappointment in performances especially considering the initial launch video Matias Duarte is calling it "a lag free device". Yeah it is...out of the box, and after full storage and system wipe. Over time it gets so annoyingly laggy you wanna chuck it against a wall! The more storage you use the worse it gets and don't even think about adding a second profile. That's an immediate lag bomb!
Also build quality is very suspect, the screen lift/creaking issue seems to be a matter of when not if. I thought I had dodged a bullet with mine until 3 days after my warranty expired. The left side creaks like crazy, and I cracked the back cover removing it to perform several of the home !made remedies. All worked for a day or 2 then the creaking would come back! I eventually gave up and stopped caring.
I don't really feel too ripped off from buying it. Nearly a year and a half of use and 3 major system updates as well as countless minor system updates feel like I got my moneys worth. But tegra 3 isn't getting any younger and getting more and more dated by the day. Also Google proved with the gnex they are pretty cut throat with their 18 months of support policy so KitKat is most likely the end of the road for the 2012 model. Do yourself a favor and get the new one! You won't regret it
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You have to be insane to get the 2012 model. Mine is showing definite age and I have barely had it a year. I think there are read write problems with the 2012 hardware that makes it laggy over time.
Get 2013 model but know that it will probably be beat up and slow a year from now. I'd say the life cycle is about a year.
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The Kit Kat update was so buggy that it drove me away. I went out and bought a dell venue 8 pro today. The tablet was only 279 and has full blown windows 8.1 AND I don't have to hack it in order use flash sites.
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Seriously thinking out getting one of those too.
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Seriously thinking out getting one of those too.
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Hey guys!! I update to 4.4 me too, but Does your battery drain faster than 4.3 or it s only mine ? Before the battery was easily 8 or 9 hours daily.. With a basically use, now with exactly the same.. not going more Than 6 hours ..
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Hey guys!! I update to 4.4 me too, but Does your battery drain faster than 4.3 or it s only mine ? Before the battery was easily 8 or 9 hours daily.. With a basically use, now with exactly the same.. not going more Than 6 hours ..
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The battery has not been too bad for me. There may have been a slight decrease, but I find this is common with some updates. Are you on the latest KitKat build or the first one?
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The battery has not been too bad for me. There may have been a slight decrease, but I find this is common with some updates. Are you on the latest KitKat build or the first one?
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The Latest.. It is possible that the reason is the root? I dit it 3days ago after the update(ROM) and I forgot to install the recovery tool .. So This morning I re-root the nexus with rectool and now for 1hour use, I lost only 5% so I don't really understand what's going on ..
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Hi
Before I take the plunge along with many others
Can anybody who has updated to 4.4 with the official LG update give there view on Pros and cons of the update
A reading a few its not much faster and no extras !
eg) Faster ? Dim Screen Problem ? Extra Apps?
I like
Generally I think it is a bit smoother and generally everything is running better for me some apps like mxplayer no like kitkat but the stock is fine until they update. Do not update if you want to be able to switch between roms, tried to reinstall cwm/twrp and for me gets stuck in fastboot so you will need to be patient till they find a new exploit. New keyboard in black is pretty awesome and transparent bars definitly refine the look as well as the white notification icons. Couple new lg apps like On screen phone so can control on pc and copy files etc pretty cool but I think its novelty value.
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Generally I think it is a bit smoother and generally everything is running better for me some apps like mxplayer no like kitkat but the stock is fine until they update. Do not update if you want to be able to switch between roms, tried to reinstall cwm/twrp and for me gets stuck in fastboot so you will need to be patient till they find a new exploit. New keyboard in black is pretty awesome and transparent bars definitly refine the look as well as the white notification icons. Couple new lg apps like On screen phone so can control on pc and copy files etc pretty cool but I think its novelty value.
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Thanks that what a lot seem to be saying "No Big Deal "
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Thanks that what a lot seem to be saying "No Big Deal "
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If you are not intending on going aosp it is definitely worth the upgrade as you should see apps running better because of the way kitkat uses the ram, I have to say even though not a huge difference in UI it definitely is better optimized and using less ram for the system. Definitely if you can get 4.4.2 do it, if you choose to stay lg stock I would suggest you install xposed framework and change it how you want to be :victory:
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Generally I think it is a bit smoother and generally everything is running better for me some apps like mxplayer no like kitkat but the stock is fine until they update.
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I'm using MXPlayer on Mahdi-rom with Kitkat and I haven't seen any problems. What are the problems you're talking about?
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I'm using MXPlayer on Mahdi-rom with Kitkat and I haven't seen any problems. What are the problems you're talking about?
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on the stock 4.4.2 have some issues with playback. Video quality seems a bit more choppy, and the colour/contrast seems off vs the stock player. I have heard other people have couple problems but can't say for all. Maybe it is using wrong codec but I just using the automatic setup...
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on the stock 4.4.2 have some issues with playback. Video quality seems a bit more choppy, and the colour/contrast seems off vs the stock player. I have heard other people have couple problems but can't say for all. Maybe it is using wrong codec but I just using the automatic setup...
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I've read some accounts that MXPlayer had some Kitkat problems a few months ago, but they were supposed to have been fixed back in December. I'm not seeing problems at all. You might want to try re-installing MXPlayer to see if that fixes it for you.
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on the stock 4.4.2 have some issues with playback. Video quality seems a bit more choppy, and the colour/contrast seems off vs the stock player. I have heard other people have couple problems but can't say for all. Maybe it is using wrong codec but I just using the automatic setup...
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I switched to BS Player Free as my standard video player as I have long felt it to be the better choice.
Lastpass!
Lastpass Premium users will love the upgrade. The Lastpass app can natively fill in usernames and passwords on websites in Chrome, without having to activate the Lastpass input method. It just detects the login page, pops up a prompt, and you hit yes to log in. Fantastic.
Aside from that, it seems smoother. When you swipe down the notification menu, the settings button is in the corner where it should be, so that's nice. Oh, and the LG keyboard (which I love to bits) now has a bunch of themes. There's a chance that I just didn't notice them before the update.
Basically, I've had no problems at all, and a bunch of apps are now able to make use of Kitkat features. It's not so much "why would I upgrade?" as "why on Earth wouldn't I upgrade?"
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I switched to BS Player Free as my standard video player as I have long felt it to be the better choice.
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I like bsplayer but the ac3 issue the player during the codec dispute leans me toward the stock player. I use bsplayer as my backup player for troubled files.
One issue I've run into with 4.4 build 20a are phantom screen presses when turning on the screen again after not using the g pad for a bit. I usually just urn off the screen for 5 seconds and then turn it back off and everything is working again. I should add I did a dirty install over 4.2.2 to 4.4.2, so chances are a wipe of the data would fix it. I'm going to do the 2 cache wipes and see if I get the problem again. I'm posting this here to see if anyone else has the problem.
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I like bsplayer but the ac3 issue the player during the codec dispute leans me toward the stock player. I use bsplayer as my backup player for troubled files.
One issue I've run into with 4.4 build 20a are phantom screen presses when turning on the screen again after not using the g pad for a bit. I usually just urn off the screen for 5 seconds and then turn it back off and everything is working again. I should add I did a dirty install over 4.2.2 to 4.4.2, so chances are a wipe of the data would fix it. I'm going to do the 2 cache wipes and see if I get the problem again. I'm posting this here to see if anyone else has the problem.
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I have no issues playing videos encoded with AC3 in BS Player (up-to-date).
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I have no issues playing videos encoded with AC3 in BS Player (up-to-date).
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Maybe they fixed the problem. Here's an old thread on it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389418
When I had my G2 KK made knock on much more responsive. So far, for me, KK has made no difference on my G-Pad.
stevessvt said:
When I had my G2 KK made knock on much more responsive. So far, for me, KK has made no difference on my G-Pad.
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Was it really broken to begin with? I found that once you got used to knocking at the right place with the right force applied, it works almost all the time. The KK update seems not to change much, if anything about this.
Now, for some reason KK has been causing the stock video player to skip and hold frames much more than usual. I use it to play videos out via slimport a lot, and after the update a simple .mp4 was skipping forward several seconds on video, until the audio caught up. Must be some sort of memory leak, but any thoughts on what can be done? Is it possible to de-install and then reinstall the stock player without factory reset?
MX Player was my go-to before and it still works. I'd switched to the stock because I don't like the ads in the free version of MX, but danged if it isn't one of the best stock players around.
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Maybe because I had the G2 to compare it against, but after KK my G2 would immediately turn on first time nearly every time. My GPad still takes 3-5 tries even after KK.
The way I solved the issue with knock on/off is I knock three times instead of two.
Can't copy files to SD card since upgrading to 4.4.2.
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For me, 4.4.2 seems a little smoother and faster. I was using Nova Launcher because the LG launcher seemed a bit less fluid. It is much better now. Nova is still smoother doing some things but not enough for me to feel I have to keep using it. I have gone back to using the stock launcher.
Other than that, not a big deal although I didn't expect it to be. It is not a huge Android update update. 4.4 is mostly just smoother.
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For me, 4.4.2 seems a little smoother and faster. I was using Nova Launcher because the LG launcher seemed a bit less fluid. It is much better now. Nova is still smoother doing some things but not enough for me to feel I have to keep using it. I have gone back to using the stock launcher.
Other than that, not a big deal although I didn't expect it to be. It is not a huge Android update update. 4.4 is mostly just smoother.
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I agree everything seems smoother and faster, web browsing is definitely faster, I don't notice any real difference with the screen brightness but I never really had a problem with my screen. For my use not much of a difference from 4.2.2 but overall I am happy with the improvements Kit Kat adds to the GPad.
I searched the 2013 Nexus 7 threads to see if anyone started a thread with their feedback on Lollipop on a stock device like previous updates and did not find any. I received the OTA notification for Lollipop but it went away after 8 hours. I have my stock 7 setup exactly I want it. I have setup certain ways like streaming movies from my computer to my multiple emails and much more custom configurations but with a bone stock 7, not even rooted which is why I was hesitant to do the update.
I'd like to hear your feedback on Lollipop. Is it faster/smoother? Does all your apps work. Do you like it better than Kitkat? etc.
Thanks in advance.
I had the same thing - the notification for the OTA popped up late at night on the 17th and I didn't have time to deal with it. In the morning, I tried to start the download but nothing happened and the notification disappeared and wouldn't come back.
Anyway in my impatience I flashed the LXR21P factory image and, after a few hours playing with it, I wish I hadn't. Kitkat was way smoother, animations, scrolling, gaming performance, everything basically. Lollipop really feels like a huge step backwards to me.
As for my apps, mostly everything survived the restore from Titanium Backup with one exception - Weather Now by Hamsterbeat seems to keep thinking its not licensed. Games were a different story unfortunately - out of the 10 or so games I had installed, five of them no longer work (Conduit HD, Deus Ex: The Fall, Call of Duty Strike Team, Modern Combat 4 and N.O.V.A. 3). The ones that do work don't run nearly as well as they used to, even Modern Combat 3 which used to run glassy smooth is now lagging. Modern Combat 5 lags so bad in the campaign when you scope in its pretty much unplayable.
There are a few things I don't much like about Lollipop but I'll get used to them. The performance right now is godawful though and I'm probably going to restore a Kitkat backup in a week or so.
Much Thanks on your detailed experience the Lollipop. So far it sound this discouraging.
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I had the same thing - the notification for the OTA popped up late at night on the 17th and I didn't have time to deal with it. In the morning, I tried to start the download but nothing happened and the notification disappeared and wouldn't come back.
Anyway in my impatience I flashed the LXR21P factory image and, after a few hours playing with it, I wish I hadn't. Kitkat was way smoother, animations, scrolling, gaming performance, everything basically. Lollipop really feels like a huge step backwards to me.
As for my apps, mostly everything survived the restore from Titanium Backup with one exception - Weather Now by Hamsterbeat seems to keep thinking its not licensed. Games were a different story unfortunately - out of the 10 or so games I had installed, five of them no longer work (Conduit HD, Deus Ex: The Fall, Call of Duty Strike Team, Modern Combat 4 and N.O.V.A. 3). The ones that do work don't run nearly as well as they used to, even Modern Combat 3 which used to run glassy smooth is now lagging. Modern Combat 5 lags so bad in the campaign when you scope in its pretty much unplayable.
There are a few things I don't much like about Lollipop but I'll get used to them. The performance right now is godawful though and I'm probably going to restore a Kitkat backup in a week or so.
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I didn't notice it earlier but there's actually a sticky thread up top, don't know if you've read it. Lots of people complaining about poor gaming performance.
not all apps work and some don't work as expected. I like the new interface, but for now I stick with KitKat as App World is not yet ready for Lollipop ( I play tons of 3D games and not all of them work and those that work, they are slow as hell).
App developers have to update their apps to run properly on 5.0. They should have already, but many have not. More are being updated every day. The system is smooth as silk. Major step forward for android in becoming a fully mature operating system. Many new features the more you look.
I like it. Think it's quick and more responsive. But as already mentioned not all apps work with it yet. Titanium backup has had an update so works very well for me.
The battery life improved alot for me
I like it. Did a clean install with NRT. Unloaded all the junk in the previous system. My Nexus 7 is running fine. I does everything I want without problems. I am enjoying Material Design. I would like to see more apps adapting MD. Now I only wish Samsung and Verizon get off their asses and get Lollipop to my S4.
So far I like Lollipop although i'm really missing xposed and certain modules that i used on 4.4.4. I haven't tried any graphically intense games yet but it seems to be running really smooth with no lag. Not sure whether it's my imagination but performance wise it feels smoother and faster than 4.4.4 but unsure whether battery life is as good. Also miss mx player but hopefully that will be updated soon.
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So far I like Lollipop although i'm really missing xposed and certain modules that i used on 4.4.4. I haven't tried any graphically intense games yet but it seems to be running really smooth with no lag. Not sure whether it's my imagination but performance wise it feels smoother and faster than 4.4.4 but unsure whether battery life is as good. Also miss mx player but hopefully that will be updated soon.
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I contacted MX player. They sent me to their website where they have a test build up that has been updated to work on 5.0.
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I didn't notice it earlier but there's actually a sticky thread up top, don't know if you've read it. Lots of people complaining about poor gaming performance.
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I updated to L and now Dungeon Keeper runs like crap. I also have a Nexus 9 with L and it doesn't have a problem. Weird...
Something's definitely weird here. For me, Lollipop is kinda sluggish compared to KK, yet some report Lollipop would be much smoother compared to KK.
My OTA went away also. After a couple days I got pissed and sideloaded the OTA. Everything is much smoother it seems. Haven't run into any app issues at all yet. Hopefully it stays bug free. I'm liking it so far.
I like it. Much smoother and touchscreen is a lot better now. But I've noticed battery life has sucked. Getting like 5 hours screen on time. Not as good as kit Kat.
Also, the brightness is all weird. Its only ever bright when I'm halfway on brightness. Anything lower is too dark.
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I like it. Much smoother and touchscreen is a lot better now. But I've noticed battery life has sucked. Getting like 5 hours screen on time. Not as good as kit Kat.
Also, the brightness is all weird. Its only ever bright when I'm halfway on brightness. Anything lower is too dark.
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For brightness its probably the adaptive display- go to display settings and turn it off.
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Much Thanks on your detailed experience the Lollipop. So far it sound this discouraging.
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It runs smooth for me, except when running games like MInecraft, Dead Trigger 2. Even Wheel of Fortune is laggy at some points. Hopefully the hardware isn't becoming outdated this soon. Maybe these laggy games will be fixed in future updates.
I have to say I despise the vast amount of changes to move settings, launcher, etc. to white background with black text. It makes my eyes hurt. I wish I could get back black background and white text on most of the common screens I have to use all the time.
Battery life sucks for me. 2h24mins screen on and at 54%.
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Battery life sucks for me. 2h24mins screen on and at 54%.
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You've had the screen on for 2.5 hours straight and you have 54% battery, and you think that sucks? That means you would get over 5 hours of constant screen on time. How much did you get before?