Its there. And it happens a lot. On 4.2.2 and on 4.3. I had to disable all transitions/animations because it is annoying to have a beastly phone with choppy stuttering animations
Inb4 my HTC one is silky smooth.. ..
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Its there. And it happens a lot. On 4.2.2 and on 4.3. I had to disable all transitions/animations because it is annoying to have a beastly phone with choppy stuttering animations
Inb4 my HTC one is silky smooth.. ..
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I don't have any of the issues you are referring to. My One GPE runs extremely smoothly with transitions/animations.
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Its there. And it happens a lot. On 4.2.2 and on 4.3. I had to disable all transitions/animations because it is annoying to have a beastly phone with choppy stuttering animations
Inb4 my HTC one is silky smooth.. ..
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Uhhh maybe because most people aren't having issues with chopiness? What GE rom(s) have you been using? I've been running sinless and it's silky smooth.
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No problems here either
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I think I'm running the first or second 4.2.2 ROM that came out. I also used the 4.3 ROM with the ridiculous huge icons and the animations stutter. Not all the time. But quite often.
Tell me what ROM you guys are using which is not choppy?
Running sinless and I don't have the choppiness. It's 4.3 as well. Have you tried fully wiping before flashing?
Ive run all the GE's 4.3 and it seems pretty choppy for the specs. For example, scrolling to side pictures in gallery isn't perfectly smooth. I didn't notice the very slight choppiness until I met the Moto X, which has worse specs but seems to pull out on top in overall smoothness
Android just isn't perfectly smooth. You have to deal with it. There was a reason for Google Project Butter in the first place and I highly doubt they could fix all the lag in a one go. However, don't get me wrong. The current state of smoothness is manageable and perfectly fine. Yet for a trained eye it is still not at the level of iOS.
All the guys saying their android device is perfectly smooth were probably saying the same thing back in the ICS days. Until they realized that it can be smoother after Google announced Project Butter.
I'm running the stock 4.3 image posted up and I do very occasionally get a few dropped frames but nothing to bother me about - quite surprised how well it runs tbh!
I have the HTC One GPE edition and there is no choppyness at all. My Nexus 4 was very choppy on 4.2.2 but it went almost away with 4.3. Still HTC One is much smoother.
I remember noticing this when I did GE convertion on 4.2.2. I think i figured out that the stock kernel is ramping up the cpu frequency too slow sometimes, try the performance CPU governor as see if things gets smoother. Haven't noticed the lag on 4.3 tho, not sure if it disappeared or I just got used to it. I noticed the same behavior on my Nexus 4 sometimes.
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I went from iPhone 5 to the HTC one and converted it to Google play edition. I am running 4.3 and see little to no difference in smoothness between the one and the iPhone.
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For_itembine said:
Its there. And it happens a lot. On 4.2.2 and on 4.3. I had to disable all transitions/animations because it is annoying to have a beastly phone with choppy stuttering animations
Inb4 my HTC one is silky smooth.. ..
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Yes it's true. With sense I never had a shred of stutter but I'm on my second stock GE 4.3 and still have to lower animation settings to look "perfect". I'm still happy though, few tiny stutters don't bother me but makes me wonder why sense never did that.
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Buy an iPhone
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Buy an iPhone
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That troll face fits you well sir.
Better yet try AHRD. Its the bee's knees.
"why is nobody mentioning the choppy animations in the GE??"
On a stock unmolested GPE (4.3) - no choppiness whatsoever. Animations fly like turd off a lubricated shovel.
I am having same problem on GE 4.3 .... However i thought its because of Modaco Switch that i am using...
The htc sense 5 is very smooth ... Hats off to HTC for that... I had been using iphones from years .. Until i sold iphone 5 to get Htc one...smoothness is not on par with iphones but enough to satisfy me... Thanks HTC
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Android just isn't perfectly smooth. You have to deal with it. There was a reason for Google Project Butter in the first place and I highly doubt they could fix all the lag in a one go. However, don't get me wrong. The current state of smoothness is manageable and perfectly fine. Yet for a trained eye it is still not at the level of iOS.
All the guys saying their android device is perfectly smooth were probably saying the same thing back in the ICS days. Until they realized that it can be smoother after Google announced Project Butter.
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I agree 100%. Android will probably never be as smooth as an iPhone. And so what. I personally could care less if my phone drops a few frames here and there. If people have the time to worry about it then they should just get an iPhone or WP if they want a super smooth UI/UX. An to answer the question, OP, I am on 100% stock GPE 4.3 and i rarely see and lags. If there are, they are very subtle and i almost never notice them at all.
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I agree 100%. Android will probably never be as smooth as an iPhone. And so what. I personally could care less if my phone drops a few frames here and there. If people have the time to worry about it then they should just get an iPhone or WP if they want a super smooth UI/UX. An to answer the question, OP, I am on 100% stock GPE 4.3 and i rarely see and lags. If there are, they are very subtle and i almost never notice them at all.
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That's definitely not a fact. I use and setup iPhone 4/4s, 5's and they still have stutters and hiccups like jelly bean. No difference. I hate it when people's default answer is "get an iPhone for perfection". Obviously you haven't used enough iPhones to get an educated opinion.
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That's definitely not a fact. I use and setup iPhone 4/4s, 5's and they still have stutters and hiccups like jelly bean. No difference. I hate it when people's default answer is "get an iPhone for perfection". Obviously you haven't used enough iPhones to get an educated opinion.
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Well, sure they have hiccups from time to time, like for example the new youtube app on the iphone 4, it lags as hell, but things like that are to be expected.
I was talking solely about the fluidity of the UI animations, I am still amazed how fluid my fiance's iphone 4 is when I get to use it.
And nobody said about iphone being perfect. Like myself for example, there is a reason I have switched from iphone to android devices and I am not planning to go back.
I am just admitting that iOS was always better in regard of UI animations despite the inferior hardware. Android on the other hand is getting there, or the current generation cpus are (getting ready for android) I should say .
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I thought it would make sense for us to have a dedicated topic for discussion of Project Butter on Jelly Bean SGS3 rather than drown it in the other JB threads with everything else.
This is a really critical feature that we are expecting from Samsung in JB and so far it doesn't seem to be quite there. What amazes me is how Samsung have not even optimized the basic apps such as Dialer and Contacts, it's painfully slow and is such a let down on this stellar hardware... And that's on ICS as well.
With all our Quad Core power is it really that hard to get flawless performance everywhere (including widgets drawer) when a Nexus device is able to do that with now ancient hardware.
What are your thoughts?
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You misunderstood the whole thing.
Project Butter deals with how the GUI is rendered.
It doesn't speed up apps and isn't supposed to do that.
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I thought it would make sense for us to have a dedicated topic for discussion of Project Butter on Jelly Bean SGS3 rather than drown it in the other JB threads with everything else.
This is a really critical feature that we are expecting from Samsung in JB and so far it doesn't seem to be quite there. What amazes me is how Samsung have not even optimized the basic apps such as Dialer and Contacts, it's painfully slow and is such a let down on this stellar hardware... And that's on ICS as well.
With all our Quad Core power is it really that hard to get flawless performance everywhere (including widgets drawer) when a Nexus device is able to do that with now ancient hardware.
What are your thoughts?
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Project butter is present. I suggest you use an ICS Rom for a few days, then flash the latest JB leak, you will definitely notice a difference. Now we still don't have something final so chances are good that Samsung is gonna do more and more optimization before the final build. Also we can't compare the S3 with a skin ( touchwiz) vs a galaxy nexus or a nexus 7 which are running "pure" android but even with that in consideration, the S3 is still fast as hell with jelly bean. I do agree there's still a little work left to be done like the widget drawer which by the way doesn't lag for me on ics, that tells you it's just optimization.
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Latest leak, contacts load pretty much instantaneous
Not fussed about the app drawer, only go there rarely and would rather not have all those pictures cached in memory taking up space when I use it so rarely, and everything else is fast....job done
I notice it. Flashed my first JB ROM last night and instantly felt the difference!
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I am not expecting it to get faster... But smoother and stutter free.. Yes.
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really can't see any lag or stutter here at all
What's happening here is that we have two project butters'.
One is the one Google announced at Google I/O which involves triple buffering, vsync. ....... blah blah blah.
The other is the one people have imagined, super zomg amazeballs android on crack project butter, where apps open when you think about opening them and finishes all your games with all achievements, automatically.
It also makes coffee.
One is real, one is nonsense.
Most people are expecting/looking for the nonsense one when they flash a JB leak.
All I need to say is, First release of ICS on S3 was stuttery, BLG8 was smooth, there werw a load of releases between to get it right.
Give Sammy time, its not even officially released yet. :banghead:
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little
Nods is back from the pub! :thumbup::thumbup::beer::beer::beer:
Actually the part that annoys me most is the Dialer, Contacts and Messaging lag.
None of you have noticed that??
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But what i want is super buttery ultra smooth mega no lag at all like iphone which is the best phone in the world.
Lololol
But seriously guys, these JB leaks has some rooms for improvement. So let's wait for Sammy to release the final one.
I agree with OP. The phone dial up, contact is very slow. As soon the final jb announced I will definitely move to AOSP build. This is something Samsung have ignored since gs2.
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Just tried sms/phone/dialer with animations at 0.5 and 1, both ways with all the mentioned cleared from cache, so basically the difference comes down to 0.5 seconds.....I think I can just about live with a half second or so lag, and as I already said,, having these cached unnecessarily is just stupid, it's just the way it is.....it's certainly a lot better than eclair was!
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Nods is back from the pub! :thumbup::thumbup::beer::beer::beer:
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Ha ha, quite the opposite really! Just finished putting insulated slabs in the porch and bleeding the heating system!
Time for the pub now!
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Well I have the latest leak LI7 with latest siyah kernel, I have tweaked it and OC to 1.6ghz. i am getting high 6500+ quadrant scores and yes its the smoothest i have seen my phone run. But even with all these tweaks and such there is hardly any difference at all in UI performance it performs just like the best of ICS, I mean i don't understand what this project butter is all about what am i supposed to feel. The OP is correct there is a few jitters here and there especially in widgets drawer. so samsung whats project butter i am yet to feel it, i over heard articles say we are going to notice a difference. Let me tell you if i had ics installed left my phone on a table and some one changed everything over to what it is now jb+siyah+tweaked and made everything look the same. I can guarantee that I would not know the difference. I mean are we meant to be searching for the difference or is the difference meant to be looking for us?
Edit: And the only reason I have brought this up is because of this so called Project Butter. If that was never mentioned then i would be just like " Everything seems fine works just like its meant to, It not slow . Thats it. But because Project butter was said I am now waiting for a difference in which I would notice
Look I have the nexus 7 and this phone both running either stock jb for the n7 and latest leak for gs3.
Now they both are smooth as butter and I mean soft country crock on toast smooth.
I love the latest leak in fact it made for some reason smart keyboard pro much more smoother too!
So I do thinks its in our latest leaks. And yes compared to any ics rom leak i6 and i7's are almost perfect for me!
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Latest leak for me is brilliant, I've come from dli5 and using my phone today has been like using a new phone. No lag, no redraw, my contacts load quick and jumping from letter to letter is immediate unlike on ics when you had to wait a second or 3 for the letter you chose to load.
Everything silky smooth here, maybe some people are just a lot more in tune to every little stutter and pause?
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I'm using omega v25 DLI7 right now. Came from ICS to 23 then 25 and I must say there has been some substantial improvements. Maybe not so much like going from GB to ICS but it really feels smoother to a certain degree and pretty seamless.
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Actually the part that annoys me most is the Dialer, Contacts and Messaging lag.
None of you have noticed that??
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Indeed... and it amazes me to what level of difference in perception and expectation of the same thing are people capable of being. Project Butter in its essence is a metafor for smoothness and fluidity of the UI. It is not some utopian idea about an instantly responding UI and to look away from these quite evident glitches lags and stutters as a default behavior is to be entirely missing the point of Project Butter and being satisfied with the current Project Stutter. As much as I would like my phone to react instantly I don't need it to. But I would like it to deal with its non-instantenouness gracefully. For example if I open a contact list don't show me a half-baked version of what the contact list should be - show me another piece of UI that says to me that the list is being loaded and once you're done loading the entire lost smoothly animate it into view. No one expects to have a contact list of five hundred people to load up instantly - but also no one should care much about the device advertising it by stitching the list up of cotacts from four corners of the world. You cannot do some loading and then some drawing and then some more of both... load everything and the work your way to fluidly present other to the user.
But here we come to the real culprit: we must assume that the framework for such a graceful UI is there in JB. It is up to the developers to properly utilize it to achieve the desired effect and this is when developers must undergo a paradigm shift. Pasting an old contact app onto the new framework will bring no buttery benefits if it is not relying on the new framework that enables the apps to behave smoothly. This is I think the point at which Samsung is failing thus far. No amount of optimization will supersede the basic qualitative change - in the same way that drag racer will never have the sophistication of a luxury limousine though it will be faster and explode or fall apart every now and then - when it comes to the experience of that elusive thing that leaves the end user with feeling a level of satisfaction just by scrolling up and down the system preference list...
All this is not to say that JB is exempt from criticism as this is only a beta of the first iteration of Project Butter. I know that all would love to have it perfect from the get go and it never is so. Still, some basic stuff should work out of the box...
Sorry for the lengthy post...
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I never experienced any UI lag in ICS, so I haven't seen any difference in JB. The animations are shorter, so events seem to happen faster, but if you turn off animations on ICS and JB both, you see that they are equally fast.
I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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The official version is indeed better than the leaks we got earlier, and gives me hope that the later versions are going to be even better, not to mention 4.1.2 and 4.2.
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I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I have both. I think that the SGS3 was already faster on ICS than the gnexus on JB. The gnexus is slower to load apps and lag a lot on places like the widgets menu.
I can only recommend Paranoid Android on the S3, I'm simply amazed by this ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745003
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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That's your opinion. I've tried both, and the S3 is faster, and better imo.
Certainly on AOSP it is without a doubt, ill always choose AOSP first and foremost now there can be no going back to Sammy ROM's only as a secondary ROM, i can live without FM Radio (i always use Tune in Radio PRO anyway much better highly recommended app) and other small things you don't get IN AOSP the good far outweighs the bad.
I have to agree Project Butter is a lot better than in the leaks, but there is optimization to do, like the widgets draw, which still lags until it is fully pulled into memory.
I can't wait to see what the updates have to offer.
And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!
Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.
supernexus build 5 is a winner
russeini said:
And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!
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while on ics i used ex dialer, on JB it still loads slowish but it takes 1 sec rather than 4 for me and im fine with that so i stopped using ex dialer for now.
I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I completely agree i owned various devices and always used Asop or akop. But on this phone, if you use asop or akop you miss the features on the phone. So i tend to stick to stock all the time simply because i need most of the features.
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I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I always switch between Sammy and AOSP for this reason but now with dual-boot I have the best of both world.
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oliseo said:
Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.
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No need to go to Samsung, you are on XDA. All the experts are here. I'm not an expert but I would say to just flash another ROM or Modem.
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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He he he silly dual-core
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I don't agree I think it's on par at the least...
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Wow! Google should have never brought project butter up in the first place. Now we have some weirdos having a weird placebo effect thinking that the GS3 firmware does not incorporate PB when it would be absolutely retarded and more difficult for Samsung to take it out of the source code and add in half butter. That is like the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. No developer would rewrite PB to operate at half.
There is a possibility that touchwiz animations do not look as smooth as AOSP animations to some eyes but I highly HIGHLY doubt it that they would change the genetic code. lol
People need to stop tripping or otherwise Google is not going to even bring up any transition improvements to prevent this crap from happening to their OEMs that use Android skins.
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And your post seems like one from a fanboy who tries to hide the reality.
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I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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Will I still get all the goodies like 60 fps and other stuff on nova launcher instead of touchwiz?
Hi all, the nexus 4 is the devices that I want to buy, but I wanted to ask you something: is it the most lagfree device avaible in the market? How is it after installing many apps? I've read in many reviews that's the smoothest android device, but I would like some confirmations
PS: I have a galaxy ace and I know that the nexus 4 will definitely be a super-upgrade
I've got about 100 or so installed apps and it works just fine.
Edit: just checked. I have 129 apps.
From a Nexus 4 bathing in Jelly Beans
Its definitely one of the fastest out there if not the fastest. The pure Google experience that you get with the phone is awesome. If you like to flash your phone there's a huge variety of roms that can be personalized to the tiniest details, and with the right combination of a rom and a decent kernel you will forget what lag is.
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Oh, I know what flashing is and I think I will mess around with that!
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Oh, I know what flashing is and I think I will mess around with that!
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After you flash for the first time, you will become an addict, beware
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With a nexus 4 you won't "need" to flash anything, you can do it if you want some extra customizations, but even the stock rom is lag free. Install apex or nova launcher and boost animation/window speed, and you'll get an even snappier experience.
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I played with HTC One which is claimed to be the fastest, smoothest, and powerful Android phone. Yes it is! But sometimes you will have the stutter feeling when opening apps, just sometimes though, and it is somewhat unpredictable. its fast but not quite like a Nexus. you have to experience it to know what i mean. plus most apps are developed based on a Nexus, so yeah you'll have the best experience.
I have about 113 apps and still no lag. stock everything until last week i flashed franco kernel. planning to jump onto cyanogenmod tomorrow.
With all the things you say, you make me desire more and more the nexus!
I'm on stock, unlocked and rooted with 700hrs of up-time so far, no crashes other than a couple of 3rd party apps and no lag whatsoever =)
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just grab this amazing phone..
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Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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The problem there is the app itself
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hey man, I came from cooper too and now I have an N4. It's a really good phone, specially when you flash franco's kernel and CM10.1 nightlys (yeah, you don't have anymore to wait updates from Maclaw, OldDroid or biel ). Battery life is good, and with franco kernel it's even better.
All the UI and system apps are really smooth, but when using some apps it's a pain to scrool (apps's fault). Videos and music also play without interruptions. Buy it, you will not regret.
Well I also have a note 10.1 and I'm not sure I'm noticing the lag you're talking about in the facebook app...
I've had every galaxy s series phone available from the vibrant to the sII then the s3 tried the s4....and absolutely nothing comes close to the Nexus experience period.
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Compared next to the s4 this phone actually opens and closes apps faster by a split second or so, but the dual core s3 is faster than the s4 in my opinion so....
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bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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You picked the worst apps =p
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bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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I don't think what you are describing is lag caused by the Nexus 4...
It's lag caused by your data speed.
With your facebook example, scolling sometimes stuters as it downloads the actual data & information from facebook itself.
The facebook app tries to place new information at the top & then it tens to want to automatically jump to the top.
If you were connected to LTE or even a fast WiFi connection that problem would be less noticable.
But as said earlier... it's just bad coding from facebook.
Come on man, the Nexus is amazing...
It has the same amount of RAM as my work computer, & lags less.
Personally I find the Nexus 4 to be a very fast device, I wont say lag free as I can certainly see some lag but is it the fastest device out? You bet, ive played around with a very new note 2 and an s4, the N4 seems to be much faster than the Note2 and marginally faster than the s4 just pressing the home button on those two devices show about .5 seconds slower than my n4 in action.
Battery life? Hmm struggle with mine if I am honest but I get a day now, it seems I get way less than everyone else and I am not sure why but I feel i got unlucky with my device and I pray to god I have a faulty power button or something so I can RMA within the warranty to hope for a new device haha.
Its the best value phone and has pretty much the same specs as the top phones, whats not to like? And its a Nexus .
Maybe I should add that the device is also faster than the iphones/ipads I have used which shocked me as people always praised their performance... lol, the N4 is simply held back by some poorly coded applications but what can you do? Hope Developers get better
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...but even the stock rom is lag free.
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Strange; I install the factory ROM onto my N4 and N10, and was quickly reminded as to what lag truly was... it was not pleasing :/
Everyone that's running GE, what are your 1st impressions of it?
I know it has some sense framework in it etc but overall I'm really digging it a lot..to me it feels a little faster...more clean obviously... I know some will hate but I am very pleased with the Google edition ROM on my T-Mobile m7 phone.
It's basically plain Android. What more could one say? Meh
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its stock android on a 1080p aluminum phone
the super nexus imo
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I have fallen in love with this phone all over again. This is exactly what I wanted. The camera quality hasn't suffered, and Beats is present.
I just switched from iPhone land and I loved the phone with Sense, but it's still awkward and clunky. Much less so than what I had remembered of Sense from years past. I kept hearing about how Jelly Bean was really a big leap for the platform and it really shows with the GPE ROM. I didn't realize how polished Jelly Bean was until tonight. I am now 100% team Google/Android.
I'll never get rid of my MacBook but it's going to take something extraordinary to pry the One out of my hand. These speakers have spoiled me, I don't think I can leave HTC now even though I want a true Nexus device next.
I like how it seems smoother and cleaner. My new daily driver!
Its amazing. Much better than I anticipated. Just make sure to download the aosp browser.
And I changed the minimum CPU to 1026mhz like the nexus 4
I'm a little annoyed by the fact that aptX is missing now. Other than that, it's much preferred over Sense.
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Its amazing. Much better than I anticipated. Just make sure to download the aosp browser.
And I changed the minimum CPU to 1026mhz like the nexus 4
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Minimum to 1026? Just curious, why did you do that? Don't you think your battery life will suffer?
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Minimum to 1026? Just curious, why did you do that? Don't you think your battery life will suffer?
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I'm curious too, don't see the good in that.
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I love it, I have a nexus 4 and I hated the screen Cuz it has a yellow tint to it... This is just as clean as sense. I love cm 10 and once a fully working version come out I'll switch to that. I know that cm is working hard on it so I have no complaints, just waiting. I do love stock very very much. Plus I was using nova launch with my sense phone now I can have pure and be happy
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I love this ****, best ROM I've ever used, daily driver for SURE.
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I'm curious too, don't see the good in that.
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Its at 1026 because of mp decision or whatever crap for no lag.
Just set it to 300 or whatever. Use tbaldwin kernel for 100 mhz.
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Yeah I have to agree with everything that's been said before. This is what the Android experience should feel like and it will only get better. Having owned both iOS and Android devices since the dawn of both, this is as good as its ever been and am very very happy.
Does anyone know how to enable battery percentage on the status bar?
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for those on HTC__001 or a CID where google keyboard dont work, youll have to change the CID to GOOGL001
first impressions? good, feels good to be back on a stock device that feels nicer than my old Nexus 4
is wifi hotspot broken? or is it just me? error
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for those on HTC__001 or a CID where google keyboard dont work, youll have to change the CID to GOOGL001
first impressions? good, feels good to be back on a stock device that feels nicer than my old Nexus 4
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Thanks.. didn't know.
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Yeah I have to agree with everything that's been said before. This is what the Android experience should feel like and it will only get better. Having owned both iOS and Android devices since the dawn of both, this is as good as its ever been and am very very happy.
Does anyone know how to enable battery percentage on the status bar?
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There isn't an option for this on aosp 4.2.2.
You'll have to install a de-odexed version and I am sure there will be plenty of % battery mods to flash very soon if not already.
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I have fallen in love with this phone all over again. This is exactly what I wanted. The camera quality hasn't suffered, and Beats is present.
I just switched from iPhone land and I loved the phone with Sense, but it's still awkward and clunky. Much less so than what I had remembered of Sense from years past. I kept hearing about how Jelly Bean was really a big leap for the platform and it really shows with the GPE ROM. I didn't realize how polished Jelly Bean was until tonight. I am now 100% team Google/Android.
I'll never get rid of my MacBook but it's going to take something extraordinary to pry the One out of my hand. These speakers have spoiled me, I don't think I can leave HTC now even though I want a true Nexus device next.
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The camera quality has suffered!!! There is no way on Earth that the quality on the Trickdroid GE Rom is anywhere near as good as stock or ARHD 11.
It made me like my one twice as much
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Stock android lovers will obviously love this, whereas I personally miss some sense stuff. For the starters the audio quality is worse, not just in headphones but the loudspeaker is definitely quieter than on sense. I miss the camera interface and Zoe as well as things like focusing on a bright area so it dims the picture and vice versa.
Can't judge battery life since I didn't use it long enough. It's smooth but my One running Viper Rom is really smooth and personally won't trade off some really good features to gain a 0.05 speed increase. It's good that the option is there for stock android lovers though
Am i the only one that has noticed some significant slowdowns in android 4.3 as opposed to 4.2.2? Even simple things like pulling down the notification bar or swiping between tabs in chrome have laggy animations now, which wasn't the case before.
Most will say it's just you. What ROM are you using?
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Do a clean install and see if that helps. I've never experienced anything slow with this phone.
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Ive never had anything else but stock rom on this phone, never even rooted it.
I'm on stock rooted 4.3 and it's significantly smoother. Haven't even bothered flashing anything else because I'm so satisfied, plus I wanted to experience stock awhile so I know what is what.
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Ive never had anything else but stock rom on this phone, never even rooted it.
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Mine felt that way for a day but seemed to really smooth out after a few reboots and time I believe it might be the way the new OS deals with the phones data just needs a bit of time to smooth itself out.
The OTA update has made my phone nothing but faster which is great because this phone was never even close to being slow in the first place.
i've been using Slimbean 4.3 Build 1 Alpha and its really smooth, only a couple of known bugs. Faster than Weekly 7.8.
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Am i the only one that has noticed some significant slowdowns in android 4.3 as opposed to 4.2.2? Even simple things like pulling down the notification bar or swiping between tabs in chrome have laggy animations now, which wasn't the case before.
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Yes, I have the exact same issue as you. Driving me nuts. I'm running the stock rom but Faux kernel. Unfortunately, I don't recall if I had this issue prior to the kernel change. Going to try to revert back to stock kernel. If that doesn't help I'm going to re-flash from scratch. I flashed the OTA...maybe something went wrong.
UPDATE: I flashed back to the stock kernel and all lag in the animations are gone. Everything is silky smooth. I had tried different CPU governors in faux kernel before going back to stock but they all had the same lag. Odd though, I've never had performance issues with faux before.
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Am i the only one that has noticed some significant slowdowns in android 4.3 as opposed to 4.2.2? Even simple things like pulling down the notification bar or swiping between tabs in chrome have laggy animations now, which wasn't the case before.
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Swiping down the notification panel is too glitchy. And also when I take screenshot, it slows down and I am not able to see the SC's animation.
It is noticeably slow for me. Even home screen animations are slow.
Any fix guys?
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It is noticeably slow for me. Even home screen animations are slow.
Any fix guys?
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Try a clean flash of stock 4.3 ROM (JWR66V) since a lot of the custom ROMs are in the early stages of development. Maybe refrain from flashing a custom kernel until you experience 100% stock for a bit.
Totally stock and mine seems to be performing better than it was.
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I tried than kanged
It did seem a littly off to me. I did a factory reset after receiving it ota but I couldn't do stock. Seemed like the phone got hotter quicker and touch responsiveness was a little slow also IMO
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It did seem a littly off to me. I did a factory reset after receiving it ota but I couldn't do stock. Seemed like the phone got hotter quicker and touch responsiveness was a little slow also IMO
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Weird.
Anyway, I'll see you @ snappy convenient store.
I am experiencing this too, but I am on Rasbean 4.3. For some reason compared to stoch, Rasbean feels choppy. IDK why because RAS is an amazing developer. I did a full wipe too anyone else experience this on 4.3 custom roms?
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Am i the only one that has noticed some significant slowdowns in android 4.3 as opposed to 4.2.2? Even simple things like pulling down the notification bar or swiping between tabs in chrome have laggy animations now, which wasn't the case before.
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Just done what you have listed above and the answer is no; its not slower, at least my stock install. I don't have bugs like the weird black bar when selecting recently used apps
. I'll continue to monitor but for now its fine.
I experienced the same less than smooth performance as well. It got a little better in smoothness and less bugging out over time, but it may just be me getting acquainted with it and being a placebo.
This was from a factory image flash, but I may give it a go again if it continues to be a problem. I doubt it'll fix it.
Just got a new Nexus 4 (white) and updated it to 4.3... Smooth as N4 has always been... Completely stock
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I am experiencing this too, but I am on Rasbean 4.3. For some reason compared to stoch, Rasbean feels choppy. IDK why because RAS is an amazing developer. I did a full wipe too anyone else experience this on 4.3 custom roms?
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I'm sure it's just AOSP. Things will get smoothed out in the weeks to come, I'm sure.