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Nexus S experience (2 weeks in)

I LOVE my Nexus S! Sure its not perfect....I would have gone for a Desire HD if I wanted the "best". I got the Nexus because I wanted to play...and play I have
Never flashed a rom till this phone. Now I am getting obsessed, clockwork makes it so easy! Tried most of them and I am currently on Cyanogen nightlies. I so look forward to seeing these rom's mature (they are so good after only a few weeks already) and I expect we will have our Nexi (plural of Nexus??) outperforming more modern devices.
So yes, I am very happy and massive respect to the clever people who "cook" roms and kernals for the likes of me, and xda for making it accessible

amazing it is just waiting for cyanogen 7 final version

Amritttt said:
amazing it is just waiting for cyanogen 7 final version
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the nightly is just as stable as a daily driver.. you should try it
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willcpfc said:
... and I expect we will have our Nexi (plural of Nexus??) outperforming more modern devices.
So yes, I am very happy and massive respect to the clever people who "cook" roms and kernals for the likes of me, and xda for making it accessible
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you can already out perform anything right now if you go for Bionix + Trinity ROM

zephiK said:
the nightly is just as stable as a daily driver.. you should try it
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Its the most stable I have used......its nice

AllGamer said:
you can already out perform anything right now if you go for Bionix + Trinity ROM
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I was using that set-up....and it is awesome, powerful and a bit more edgy than cyanogen, however wifi/browser issues forced me to change for now. But I am obsessed now so changing back will be a pleasure when I can rely on wifi
But bionix is a perfect example of how our nexi will be beasts.....

willcpfc said:
I was using that set-up....and it is awesome, powerful and a bit more edgy than cyanogen, however wifi/browser issues forced me to change for now. But I am obsessed now so changing back will be a pleasure when I can rely on wifi
But bionix is a perfect example of how our nexi will be beasts.....
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if 1400 is too much for your phone you can try 1300
or even lower 1200
1300 is stable for me, all features working
1400 is a bit too hot for comfort

AllGamer said:
if 1400 is too much for your phone you can try 1300
or even lower 1200
1300 is stable for me, all features working
1400 is a bit too hot for comfort
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I tried every combo I could.....each gave me the browser trouble
Complete wipes and fresh flashes.....but no joy.
But it is awesome! The kernal boots in seconds. I am sure they will make a stable version for my delicate device.
If my nexus was a car, Cyanogen is leather seats, neon lights and a spoiler....Bionix/trinity is putting a supercharged V10 under the hood

willcpfc said:
I LOVE my Nexus S! Sure its not perfect....I would have gone for a Desire HD if I wanted the "best". I got the Nexus because I wanted to play...and play I have
Never flashed a rom till this phone. Now I am getting obsessed, clockwork makes it so easy! Tried most of them and I am currently on Cyanogen nightlies. I so look forward to seeing these rom's mature (they are so good after only a few weeks already) and I expect we will have our Nexi (plural of Nexus??) outperforming more modern devices.
So yes, I am very happy and massive respect to the clever people who "cook" roms and kernals for the likes of me, and xda for making it accessible
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How refreshing to see a positive review from an NS owner. I also love my NS.

irishrally said:
How refreshing to see a positive review from an NS owner. I also love my NS.
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yeah the Nexus S has taken a lot of flack, sure it is not perfect and not the best ever phone feature wise.....but like you, I love it....It looks damn cool, stylish and it will always be more exotic than HTC etc.

How exactly would the 'best' be the desire hd

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How exactly would the 'best' be the desire hd
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Here in Britain its about as good as you will get spec wise no firebreathing evo's in our shops.

willcpfc said:
Here in Britain its about as good as you will get spec wise no firebreathing evo's in our shops.
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Trust me, I've owned an EVO 4G...there's nothing fire-breathing about it, at least not on Sprint's network here in Los Angeles. LOL

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Trust me, I've owned an EVO 4G...there's nothing fire-breathing about it, at least not on Sprint's network here in Los Angeles. LOL
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Yeah but you got far more of a choice state side. I was so tempted by desire HD...that's what my head said....but my heart said nexus. Its like Droid x never made it here and nexus one is rare as hell...only one phone company stocked it

willcpfc said:
Here in Britain its about as good as you will get spec wise no firebreathing evo's in our shops.
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It's a nice bit of kit as you'd expect from HTC, but for me, the screen is just that little bit too big. Plus we get AMOLED on the lovely Nexus.
And NFC. Not that it's any use at the moment, but better to have the hardware and wait for Google to find something awesome to do with it than to get 6 months down the line and miss it...
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willcpfc said:
Here in Britain its about as good as you will get spec wise no firebreathing evo's in our shops.
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the Nexus S has a better CPU/GPU and better screen.
The Evo... Is even worse than the DHD

willcpfc said:
Yeah but you got far more of a choice state side. I was so tempted by desire HD...that's what my head said....but my heart said nexus. Its like Droid x never made it here and nexus one is rare as hell...only one phone company stocked it
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U don't want droid x crap...the rest yes cool phones. ..might own my first moto in 2 months. The atrix
I think the dhd is a nice device. I hate the entire sync ****. That phone spent the whole day syncing ...lol
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willcpfc said:
I LOVE my Nexus S! Sure its not perfect....I would have gone for a Desire HD if I wanted the "best".
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I handed my desire hd to the wife and got a nexus s. The nexus s is far better than the hd. You made the right choice.
-Joel

I love my Gf, daughter.... nexus S... ect
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I really love this phone and have had it since launch but I'm on number five. I just really have bad luck with these kinds of things or perhaps I'm just really ocd. I thought this last one would be perfect finally but I'm having really bad touch screen issues. The phone randomly goes unresponsive. The back button and pretty much the whole lower half of the phone or left side it you are not in landscape. Its starting and stopping even as I type. I love this phone when it works! I cringe every time I go to best buy because I feel like I'm some kind of hypochondriac but the problems are real! My first had a bad screen flaw and since then its been unresponsive back button like this one (minus the screen unresponsiveness), dim back button, dead pixel, and now this one. I have the black tie protection too. I'm not giving up on the phone but man its so frustrating. Just work without defect dang it!
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Switching from Vibrant to HD2

Got a bit tired of Vibrant.....not that its bad, its a great phone and TouchWiz has been great too, GPS worked fine as well.....but the lack of ROMs made me switch. I tried going back to Nexus One.....no go, screen is crap, cant type anything without mistakes after Vibrants SAMOLED.....so HD2 came into my mind. Ironically, this Windows 6.5 phone has more Android support then Vibrant. It runs anything you want, Win6.5, Win7.0, CM7, Miui, HTC Sense, and even Linux......thats why I decided to give it a shot, at least until Pyramid comes out.

I've used both...
The screen size of the HD2 is nice, but the Vibrant display is superior in every other way IMO. And while the HD2 has some excellent ROMs, I wouldn't expect everything to work out of the box. It may run all those OSes you just mentioned, but the only one it officially runs is WinMo 6.5. Expect to compromise on features and do some tinkering otherwise. (If you require HD video recording, for example, don't even consider the HD2.)
It sounds like you've had pretty good luck with your Vibrant (compared to other Vibrant owners). Especially considering the fact that you don't mind TouchWiz, not sure I'd recommend the switch...that's just my opinion from several weeks experience. Your mileage may vary of course.
Good luck though. The HD2 has the best build of any phone I've ever used.

inconceeeivable said:
I've used both...
The screen size of the HD2 is nice, but the Vibrant display is superior in every other way IMO. And while the HD2 has some excellent ROMs, I wouldn't expect everything to work out of the box. It may run all those OSes you just mentioned, but the only one it officially runs is WinMo 6.5. Expect to compromise on features and do some tinkering otherwise. (If you require HD video recording, for example, don't even consider the HD2.)
It sounds like you've had pretty good luck with your Vibrant (compared to other Vibrant owners). Especially considering the fact that you don't mind TouchWiz, not sure I'd recommend the switch...that's just my opinion from several weeks experience. Your mileage may vary of course.
Good luck though. The HD2 has the best build of any phone I've ever used.
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thanks.
well, since today, Miui Gingerbread is officially supported on hd2. this is one of the reasons for switch. Miui work great on my Nexus 1

I have both the vibrant and hd2, the hd2 is my back up/ fun phone. I gotten tired of touch wiz and wanted to try aosp android. So after months of having the hd2 I flashed everything under the sun and loved it. There is always something new to do on the hd2.
But as for battery life, stability and speed i still use the vibrant for my main phone.

Blkegk said:
I have both the vibrant and hd2, the hd2 is my back up/ fun phone. I gotten tired of touch wiz and wanted to try aosp android. So after months of having the hd2 I flashed everything under the sun and loved it. There is always something new to do on the hd2.
But as for battery life, stability and speed i still use the vibrant for my main phone.
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not a fan of aosp. more of a sense and Miui fan
really worried about battery though

inconceeeivable said:
I've used both...
The screen size of the HD2 is nice, but the Vibrant display is superior in every other way IMO. And while the HD2 has some excellent ROMs, I wouldn't expect everything to work out of the box. It may run all those OSes you just mentioned, but the only one it officially runs is WinMo 6.5. Expect to compromise on features and do some tinkering otherwise. (If you require HD video recording, for example, don't even consider the HD2.)
It sounds like you've had pretty good luck with your Vibrant (compared to other Vibrant owners). Especially considering the fact that you don't mind TouchWiz, not sure I'd recommend the switch...that's just my opinion from several weeks experience. Your mileage may vary of course.
Good luck though. The HD2 has the best build of any phone I've ever used.
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After using the HD7 so much, I cannot fathom going back to using only a 4" screen as my main phone. I still use my Vibrant daily - I think some of the Official Apps on WP7 like Twitter and FB still need a bit more work. But with just 0.3" less screen size it feels too small already. I can barely type on it anymore.
The screen is really good but once you start using the other phones (even using them side by side) I don't think I ever really think about which screen is better, TBQH.
And yea, the build quality of the HD2 is great outside of the dust-attracting speaker grilles
However, the Vibrant makes a superior phone to the HD2/HD7. Reception is a lot better. The Vibrant's speakers are also a lot better than the HD2/HD7s. Less tinny and twice as loud. Even the earpiece volume for talking on the phone on an HD2/HD7 is almost 50% thinner and lower in volume than the Vibrant.
Just makes me think how much of a shame it was for Samsung to put such terrible software on the Vibrant (not in function or aesthetics, but in performance and robustness).

kolyan said:
thanks.
well, since today, Miui Gingerbread is officially supported on hd2. this is one of the reasons for switch. Miui work great on my Nexus 1
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Wow...did not know that lol. That's awesome.

if you could, just buy a 2nd hand hd2 and keep them both.
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N8ter said:
After using the HD7 so much, I cannot fathom going back to using only a 4" screen as my main phone. I still use my Vibrant daily - I think some of the Official Apps on WP7 like Twitter and FB still need a bit more work. But with just 0.3" less screen size it feels too small already. I can barely type on it anymore.
The screen is really good but once you start using the other phones (even using them side by side) I don't think I ever really think about which screen is better, TBQH.
And yea, the build quality of the HD2 is great outside of the dust-attracting speaker grilles
However, the Vibrant makes a superior phone to the HD2/HD7. Reception is a lot better. The Vibrant's speakers are also a lot better than the HD2/HD7s. Less tinny and twice as loud. Even the earpiece volume for talking on the phone on an HD2/HD7 is almost 50% thinner and lower in volume than the Vibrant.
Just makes me think how much of a shame it was for Samsung to put such terrible software on the Vibrant (not in function or aesthetics, but in performance and robustness).
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Stay away from the SGS2, you'll never be able to go back to a 4.3 inch.

Nothing against the vibrant but I jsut bought an dell streak. Vibrant is the champion being the longest phone in my possession. Im just bored with it and the dell streak is about the only phone I havent had besides the nexus s. Just waiting until the sgs2 comes out.

So far 4.3'' is pretty impressive, dont miss SAMOLED at all. Both speakers suck in HD2 compared to Galaxy, built quality is much better then Galaxy, Android actually runs faster (maybe the same), battery life dont know yet..... I hear mixed reports that Gingerbread is draining more battery......but the good thing is that Miui updates are comming out each week and no wipe is needed. Might try Gingerbread Sense UI later on since its still "new" to HD2

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So far 4.3'' is pretty impressive, dont miss SAMOLED at all. Both speakers suck in HD2 compared to Galaxy, built quality is much better then Galaxy, Android actually runs faster (maybe the same), battery life dont know yet..... I hear mixed reports that Gingerbread is draining more battery......but the good thing is that Miui updates are comming out each week and no wipe is needed. Might try Gingerbread Sense UI later on since its still "new" to HD2
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Not sure about the latest releases, but pongster's GBX ROM has a great reputation battery-wise. And yeah, those GB Sense builds will be sick if they get the camera working.
Edit: The main thing that bothers me about the HD2/7 display is the LCD response time. Do you guys notice this as well?
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Not sure about the latest releases, but pongster's GBX ROM has a great reputation battery-wise. And yeah, those GB Sense builds will be sick if they get the camera working.
Edit: The main thing that bothers me about the HD2/7 display is the LCD response time. Do you guys notice this as well?
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what do you mean about LCD ? Haven't noticed anything different from Vibrant yet.

I've been considering getting an hd2 for awhile, I just don't know what to do though, I'll miss my vibrant like crazy, one of the main reasons I'll miss my vibe is because I wouldn't have a clue how to flash roms on the hd2..

kolyan said:
what do you mean about LCD ? Haven't noticed anything different from Vibrant yet.
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Almost like a ghosting effect. Mainly noticeable on white text scrolling on a dark background. Not a huge deal, but was definitely there on both HD2 and HD7.
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cashyftw said:
I've been considering getting an hd2 for awhile, I just don't know what to do though, I'll miss my vibrant like crazy, one of the main reasons I'll miss my vibe is because I wouldn't have a clue how to flash roms on the hd2..
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I got mine with Android ROM so it was easy. with original windows, you have to flash radio, spl, and bootloader. after that its easy, and pretty much the same as Vibrant, flash the same clockwork recovery and flash Rom of your choice.

cashyftw said:
I've been considering getting an hd2 for awhile, I just don't know what to do though, I'll miss my vibrant like crazy, one of the main reasons I'll miss my vibe is because I wouldn't have a clue how to flash roms on the hd2..
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I will glady help you flash roms on the Hd2.
It may seem complicated, but most of it is done through the computer. DFT's executables are very simple to operate. And unless you flash the wrong radio or mess up the bootloader, the phone is impossible to brick, partly thanks to the ability to flash through the computer (kind of like odin).

battery lasted 9 hours of pretty heavy use in 3g area with brightness set to auto....mostly playing and browsing the net, not much talk time or gps. also right now and at least in Miui, I can't change settings for light sensor (its a bug or something) and stock brightness is pretty high. Ones thats fixed, I bet it will greatly help the battery.

XPLANE9 said:
I will glady help you flash roms on the Hd2.
It may seem complicated, but most of it is done through the computer. DFT's executables are very simple to operate. And unless you flash the wrong radio or mess up the bootloader, the phone is impossible to brick, partly thanks to the ability to flash through the computer (kind of like odin).
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Also, once you get clockwork on there, it wont be so different.

april fools? haha just playing
I came from an HD2 to a Vibrant. Gave the HD2 to my brother (android virgin). I love the screen size and the ease of running multiple roms on it but speaker and camera annoys the heck out of me. Funny though because I don't even use GPS that much and barely take picture but those are some things I NEED to have in a phone.
ANyway, good luck with your new phone. I am a bit jealous of not being able to run GB w/ gps my vibrant but it makes up in other area.

Xperia X10... How BAD can it be?!

In my urge to find something "different" I'm considering purchasing an X10, but all the reviews say it's just terrible...
Honestly, how bad can it be? Is this just tainted blood from when it was first released on 1.6? Am I wrong in thinking that it's a very usable device, either with the latest updates, or on a rom from the dev section?

I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else

What do you mean the screen is bad? Response or the image on the screen?

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I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
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The screen isnt that bad at all. And theres always gonna be better devices for the same price no matter what device you have. There are better devices, but how much are you willing to spend?
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Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...

ClubDownforce said:
Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.

clixt said:
I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.

Camera, signal, and battery life are just fine. It's not the fastest phone. It's still pretty laggy even when optimized. Things should really improve with the 2.3 upgrade but even with that, there are faster, more powerful, and featured phones out there.
For the average smartphone user, the major downside to this phone is the low in call volume. I've had to purchase a bluetooth speakerphone for the car (which is great actually). Taking a call in a loud environment is awful.

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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
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Id say go for it. You dont sound to demanding, and you dont sound like you need the best of the best. The X10 is pretty pleasing in my experience.
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I've had my x10 since march. Ive had other droids before and an iphone as well but what i really needed was the great camera that the x10 does have. I've always read people having problems with low in call volume but I can say that i've never had that problem myself. I never used the phone with 1.6, when i got it the 2.1 update was already released, so i never experienced the dreadfulness (some say) that was the 1.6 rom.
The x10 is a very beautiful and stylish phone (specially the white one) with an outstanding camera, HD video and android. I can agree, that the rom (The SE one anyway) is not the fastest or more responsive thing on earth, but I don't find it too horrible either. now that it has the dual touch, the large display is a lot better to handle, even if not perfect.
I say go for it. try to find the one dubbed x10 HD (one that comes with 2.1 out of the box), because it is my understanding that it has a better display module that looks even better than the first x10s did.

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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.

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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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What were the colors originally
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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One thing to consider is how long you plan to use this phone. The X10 Is about to receive android 2.3. This however will be the last official android upgrade that it will receive. I'm close to the end of a 2 year contract so this is not such an issue for me. Granted if you are planning to use a custom roms it won't be a big issue for you either.
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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get your carrier to repair it. I don't have this issue.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.

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What were the colors originally
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Did you use the X10 on 1.6? There is a very big noticeable difference between 1.6 and 2.1. While they didnt give us 16m colors they did adjust the colors. Some of the same wallpapers and widgets i used then and now proove a massive difference. Not exactly sure how or what they did...but something was adjusted lol.
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OmegaRED^ said:
It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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Ive noticed in bad areas it has its problems...sometimes even drops my call. But i most certainly remember my old nexus one had a very similiar issue where i live. When i had the galaxy s i didnt experience such issue...but that was only like a week...and my samsung focus has been by far the greatest. Not a single issue no matter where ive been.
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[Q] How good a phone is this ?

Ig Going to Upgrade from my Lg optimus and was wanting to get the g2x but have heard that it has too many problems so i was looking at this one and saw it had all of my favorite roms i really dont like the design of the phone or mysense but custom roms make up for all of that . The thing is that the hardware old now that there are more dualcore phones And the screen is small for what i was wanting. Can you all give me some feedback or maybe suggest some better alternatives ?

Its solid. Battery life is fair, don't expect to be away from the charger. But thats common with Android phones.
There are 2 screens/displays. If you get one, you will get a nice one (bright colors) or the washed up one thats all white and just is terrible.
I have the one with the washed up screen but didn't really notice it until I got a G2X. However, from my experience here is what I find:
Stock Rom: Its solid. I never had any complaints with it. It will bogg down and lagg, but its expected. You get used to it after a while, but the phone was solid in Stock Rom. Never had problems while using it. Camera is decent. Sense 2.1 is alright, I like it. You won't have complaints
If you feel adventurous, you can Root it and flash ROMS. CM7 and Virtious Unity are the best alternative to the stock ROM. You'll get a performance boost.
Personally I bought a G2X thinking its better and in many ways it is. However, the one thing that just disgusts me about my phone is just how washed up screen is. Its not that is defective, just that HTC used different manufacturers for the display and I got the one that looks all washed up and just looks terrible. When compared to the G2X, the difference is night and day.
If not for that, I probably would still be using this phone. Mytouch 4G has been good to me. I have it as a spare. But if you haven't been spoiled by a bright, rich color, and contrast. Give it a shot. 50/50 on getting a good display. Overall the phone is great.
I mean get it if you can't wait. I won't lie, G2X took time to find a stable ROM. There are issues, but you'll have to test and tweak before finding stable ground. Or you might be lucky and get a bright/good display. LG can rot for producing such trash of a ROM. I'm on a G2X. But I do miss the stable myTouch 4G.

Umm I see. If I Get a bad one I can replace until I get lucky and get a good one right? I don't like the stock ui so yea I was planning on putting cm7 miui or virtuous unity are those smooth and stable?
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fr0zenblood75 said:
Umm I see. If I Get a bad one I can replace until I get lucky and get a good one right? I don't like the stock ui so yea I was planning on putting cm7 miui or virtuous unity are those smooth and stable?
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mt4g addict here, it's basically the best single core phone out there, i haven't seen anyone with a bad display yet (socal)
you will love this phone, it is definitely a beast.
I never used miui but every top rom out there is smooth and stable on here.
virtuous unity, royalginger (it's like cm7 that is stripped down and supercharged) heard a lot of good things about faux's rom. But i'm definitely attached to virtuous unity right now.
Forewarning, you will go on a flashing craze the first time you get this phone because every rom on here is amazing. there's a lot of great devs on here.
comparison, my friend, cousin, and brother has the samsung galaxy 4g and is jealous of my phone
my friend with the g2x is jealous of it.
However, right now I'm a bit jealous of the sensation and the devs that are heading over there.

MT4G is a good phone. I was hesitant to buy one after I dropped in broke my Vibrant screen.
It very speedy and the battery life is decent. My only complaint is I was/am used to the Super AMOLED display but after one month of using my old Blackberry this screen is beautiful.

From what I have seen if the phone was made in china you will get a good display. I think the washed out one is made in taiwan. check under the battery before it gets installed.
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Thanks guys I was looking at it and ended up picking up a sensation
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fr0zenblood75 said:
Thanks guys I was looking at it and ended up picking up a sensation
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Nice choice, that seems to be a pretty awesome phone. Havent heard bad things about it yet and they just barely got into unlocking the bootloader and rooting that device. Hope to see good things from it.

eqjunkie829 said:
Nice choice, that seems to be a pretty awesome phone. Havent heard bad things about it yet and they just barely got into unlocking the bootloader and rooting that device. Hope to see good things from it.
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Yea its really nice I dont regret it and battery life is really good . Im actually gonna wait a while to root it probobly when cm7 and miui get released for it . I have not found any defect so far

I had a bad one from china
Axe_Thrasher said:
From what I have seen if the phone was made in china you will get a good display. I think the washed out one is made in taiwan. check under the battery before it gets installed.
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tvotony said:
I had a bad one from china
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I have both, Bad and good, from china

projectbutter makes the s3 amazing

I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!

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I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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The official version is indeed better than the leaks we got earlier, and gives me hope that the later versions are going to be even better, not to mention 4.1.2 and 4.2.

dodgebizkit said:
I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I have both. I think that the SGS3 was already faster on ICS than the gnexus on JB. The gnexus is slower to load apps and lag a lot on places like the widgets menu.

I can only recommend Paranoid Android on the S3, I'm simply amazed by this ROM...
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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That's your opinion. I've tried both, and the S3 is faster, and better imo.

Certainly on AOSP it is without a doubt, ill always choose AOSP first and foremost now there can be no going back to Sammy ROM's only as a secondary ROM, i can live without FM Radio (i always use Tune in Radio PRO anyway much better highly recommended app) and other small things you don't get IN AOSP the good far outweighs the bad.

I have to agree Project Butter is a lot better than in the leaks, but there is optimization to do, like the widgets draw, which still lags until it is fully pulled into memory.
I can't wait to see what the updates have to offer.

And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!

Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.

supernexus build 5 is a winner

russeini said:
And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!
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while on ics i used ex dialer, on JB it still loads slowish but it takes 1 sec rather than 4 for me and im fine with that so i stopped using ex dialer for now.

I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I completely agree i owned various devices and always used Asop or akop. But on this phone, if you use asop or akop you miss the features on the phone. So i tend to stick to stock all the time simply because i need most of the features.

hero000 said:
I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I always switch between Sammy and AOSP for this reason but now with dual-boot I have the best of both world.
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Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.
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No need to go to Samsung, you are on XDA. All the experts are here. I'm not an expert but I would say to just flash another ROM or Modem.

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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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He he he silly dual-core
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I don't agree I think it's on par at the least...
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Wow! Google should have never brought project butter up in the first place. Now we have some weirdos having a weird placebo effect thinking that the GS3 firmware does not incorporate PB when it would be absolutely retarded and more difficult for Samsung to take it out of the source code and add in half butter. That is like the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. No developer would rewrite PB to operate at half.
There is a possibility that touchwiz animations do not look as smooth as AOSP animations to some eyes but I highly HIGHLY doubt it that they would change the genetic code. lol
People need to stop tripping or otherwise Google is not going to even bring up any transition improvements to prevent this crap from happening to their OEMs that use Android skins.

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And your post seems like one from a fanboy who tries to hide the reality.
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I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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scoffyburito said:
I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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Will I still get all the goodies like 60 fps and other stuff on nova launcher instead of touchwiz?