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Ok, Im confused, some people are claiming that rooting alone will trip the knox efuse, while others say no. They say that only custom recovery will.
Im planning on roothing and use a script to debloat my phone. I was hoping I wont trip the efuse.
Yungfu said:
Ok, Im confused, some people are claiming that rooting alone will trip the knox efuse, while others say no. They say that only custom recovery will.
Im planning on roothing and use a script to debloat my phone. I was hoping I wont trip the efuse.
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Read this bro http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...e-reset-warranty-voided-permanently-20131009/.
Appearantly rooting and flashing custom software leads to a increased counter that voids warranty which can`t be reset atm. Better think twice before you root
Appearently this root method will not increment the internal Knox counter http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479952. Read the OP well before doing this.
Hi guys, I have a Galaxy S4 I9505, and I've been reading for a while about KNOX "Counter". I want to root my S4, but I want to know if I root or unroot my KNOX Counter will increase from 0x0 to 0x1? And it is so, I can reset that Counter to 0x0? Because I don't want to lose my warranty.
Thanks in advance!
These are really basic question and have been asked a 1000 times already. If you really did read about Knox you would have find those basic anwsers. I don't think you have read much about Knox. There is a big thread here about Knox. You find your anwsers there.
Lennyz1988 said:
These are really basic question and have been asked a 1000 times already. If you really did read about Knox you would have find those basic anwsers. I don't think you have read much about Knox. There is a big thread here about Knox. You find your anwsers there.
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There are so many informations that you don't know want to trust or not, and I didn't said I read here on xda, you could give me a link, but thanks for help!
Rooting will Void Your Warranty but it will give u\you access to new world..
Knox
my friend, the link below is described completely the knox...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
its no problem if your device has not guaranty.
Ya I think that your device gt i9505 support triangleaway so you can reset your flash counter.
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samsung gt i9505 support triangle away, and reset counter.
But counter Knox, you can not reset.
just to clarify for you...."flash counter" is a counter that increases each time you flash a rom or whatever. the know 0x1 is a flag which doesn't continually increase, it will either be 0x0 meaning that it's a stock/official system, or it will be 0x1 meaning that the knox flag has been tripped because some part of the system has been modified (e.g. flashing custom rom or recovery, or rooting etc).
so if you want a totally official/full warranty guarantee, don't modify the device in anyway. if you've gone past your warranty date or just don't care about it then you can root/install custom roms kernels and recoveries, but this will likely trip the knox flag if you have the kitkat bootloader.
Hi
My s5 currently is rooted and KNOX is 0x0. I want to flash something more exciting to it but what can I do about KNOX? Can I Remove It Before it is tripped or does it happen no matter what?
Hi - Sorry I don't know the answer to your question but could you share how you managed to root your phone without tripping Knox? All guides / info I have read says Knox will be 0x1 after root and as such I cannot / have not rooted.
Thanks
you cannot remove KNOX.
If you flash anything - KNOX goes to 0x1 making you void your warranty
dieselboy said:
Hi - Sorry I don't know the answer to your question but could you share how you managed to root your phone without tripping Knox? All guides / info I have read says Knox will be 0x1 after root and as such I cannot / have not rooted.
Thanks
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Visit this thread https://towelroot.com/ on your phone and click the lambda and follow instructions. KNOX will stay on 0x0.
Thanks !
It seems within the last 2 weeks after almost everyone saying "rooting will trip Knox and don't count on anything different any time soon" that rooting now does not trip Knox
Very pleased, I am.
And thanks for the link. Seems not everyone knows about this yet.
KNOX
Understood. But is the warranty that important?
Sure using towelroot to root your device won't trip knox but once you flash a custom recovery so you can use custom roms, kernels etc it will
What happens after you disable KNOX from SuperSU?
I thought that you could do anything you want and KNOX will be 0x0 since it's "disabled".
forsberg78 said:
What happens after you disable KNOX from SuperSU?
I thought that you could do anything you want and KNOX will be 0x0 since it's "disabled".
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Iirc Knox is implemented in the boot loader which can't be hacked, so Knox will always be there
If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor
DSA said:
Iirc Knox is implemented in the boot loader which can't be hacked, so Knox will always be there
If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor
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Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
gee2012 said:
Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
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Yeah. I Would like this explained. If KNOX isnt a factor in Europe Then Thats A Plus For Me.
Wildey1771 said:
Yeah. I Would like this explained. If KNOX isnt a factor in Europe Then Thats A Plus For Me.
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They are referring to some regula by EU Laws, which indirectly tells that manufacture cannot deny warranty because of rooting.
At same time, organization in my country responsible about these kind of claims says, they agree on Samsungs warranty paper, which says we are not allowed to root. So If I would want justice in my country, it can be done only by court!
So dont count on EU law helping... may work and may not.
gee2012 said:
Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
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Warranty...there are laws here that supercede it, but the above post is basically true (although two people I know who had rooted and used the warranty didn't have to go to court)
txr33 said:
Sure using towelroot to root your device won't trip knox but once you flash a custom recovery so you can use custom roms, kernels etc it will
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Understood.
However in my case all I want to do right now is disable the silly camera shutter sound.
Alright, So Im From The UK. I Want To Get Rid Of Silly Touchwiz which Samsung loves to use. To do so I know I need to flash a different ROM. Doing this will flag KNOX. KNOX being flagged will void warranty. Should I Care About Warranty? Or Should I Flash Away?
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Alright, So Im From The UK. I Want To Get Rid Of Silly Touchwiz which Samsung loves to use. To do so I know I need to flash a different ROM. Doing this will flag KNOX. KNOX being flagged will void warranty. Should I Care About Warranty? Or Should I Flash Away?
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Not necessarily.. Have you heard of "Themer"? I was running themer on my completely stock Note3. You have a wide selection of touchwiz replacements. Take a looksie.
Knox will be tripped if you load a custom recovery or kernel.
Apart from resale reasons, why is everyone so worried about going 0x1?
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Inm8 said:
Knox will be tripped if you load a custom recovery or kernel.
Apart from resale reasons, why is everyone so worried about going 0x1?
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Perhaps because it may void people's phone warranty.
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Perhaps because it may void people's phone warranty.
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True, didn't think about how many people actually used that.
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Inm8 said:
True, didn't think about how many people actually used that.
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Hopefully not many. You'd expect Samsungs warranty return % to be very low. I wonder if there are published figures, but I would hope <0.1% of customers. However, after a few months of using your device you would know if you need to warranty the phone or not. Then I guess you wouldn't mind going 0x1.
Hi all
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this question (please refrain from flaming if it isn't) but my question is:
I've rooted (which tripped Knox), and there are a few images that I'd stored in Knox that I want to retrieve. Is there a way for me to get the images now that I am unable to get into Knox?
Thanks in advance,
Nate
BMW4LifeNate said:
Hi all
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this question (please refrain from flaming if it isn't) but my question is:
I've rooted (which tripped Knox), and there are a few images that I'd stored in Knox that I want to retrieve. Is there a way for me to get the images now that I am unable to get into Knox?
Thanks in advance,
Nate
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No. If you used even 30 seconds to try search an answer to your question, you'd figured it out.
Congratulations in achieving 0X1!!!
Spere said:
No. If you used even 30 seconds to try search an answer to your question, you'd figured it out.
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I have searched, thank you. A simple no would have sufficed
maxilick said:
Congratulations in achieving 0X1!!!
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May I take a bow now?
BMW4LifeNate said:
I have searched, thank you. A simple no would have sufficed
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Unfortunately, all Knox apps are bound to e-fuse, which is "burned" now.
Best disable now all Knox processes in the shell.
Forget the pics, pity
tetakpatalked from P5110
BMW4LifeNate said:
Hi all
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this question (please refrain from flaming if it isn't) but my question is:
I've rooted (which tripped Knox), and there are a few images that I'd stored in Knox that I want to retrieve. Is there a way for me to get the images now that I am unable to get into Knox?
Thanks in advance,
Nate
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How on earth did you trip Knox ??
BMW4LifeNate said:
I have searched, thank you. A simple no would have sufficed
May I take a bow now?
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You may, you may also flash what you like that's the best part.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
How on earth did you trip Knox ??
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Well, I used Cf-auto root. I would have used towelroot but unfortunately this uses the Exynos chip (SM-N900) and if there was another way of rooting without tripping Knox I wasn't aware of it
BMW4LifeNate said:
Well, I used Cf-auto root. I would have used towelroot but unfortunately this uses the Exynos chip (SM-N900) and if there was another way of rooting without tripping Knox I wasn't aware of it
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oh i see, i thought you was on snapdragon as snapdragon version you can have root without tripping Knox.. Oh i did hear somewhere on these forums you can reset the Knox back to 0x0 as long as you own the exynos version it might be worth a search!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Oh i did hear somewhere on these forums you can reset the Knox back to 0x0 as long as you own the exynos version it might be worth a search!
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+1
BMW4LifeNate said:
Well, I used Cf-auto root. I would have used towelroot but unfortunately this uses the Exynos chip (SM-N900) and if there was another way of rooting without tripping Knox I wasn't aware of it
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Search google how to reset Knox for N900
vndnguyen said:
+1
Search google how to reset Knox for N900
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I have had a brief look around the forum and Google and have found ways to reset the Knox counter but it involves wiping the rom (downgrading, etc) and losing root which I'm not inclined to do. I'll be patient and wait and see if there is a method that comes about that would let me reset it without losing root.
Thanks for all the advice
Nate
Is this true? Supposedly with this program for windows the official 5.0.1 lollipop rom N910FXXU1BOB4 can be rooted (maybe without tripping knox???)
https://twitter.com/srsroot/status/572313962311774209
sxjg23 said:
Is this true? Supposedly with this program for windows the official 5.0.1 lollipop rom N910FXXU1BOB4 can be rooted (maybe without tripping knox???)
https://twitter.com/srsroot/status/572313962311774209
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Fk.. u cant trip knox. Why thats so hard to believe ? Btw, this theard is in wrong section.
rs tony said:
Fk.. u cant trip knox. Why thats so hard to believe ? Btw, this theard is in wrong section.
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when I said "without tripping knox" i meant: without increasing the knox counter to 1 and thus invalidating the warranty.
So if it works it could be the first method to root preserving the warranty.
I haven't tried though.
Anyone?
sxjg23 said:
when I said "without tripping knox" i meant: without increasing the knox counter to 1 and thus invalidating the warranty.
So if it works it could be the first method to root preserving the warranty.
I haven't tried though.
Anyone?
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does it says anywhere that it won't trip knox?
i've looked but haven't seen anything about that.
so why would you think about something like that? if it would be possible it would've been huge news everywhere
so i think it's safe to assume you thought completely wrong about that it won't trip knox :good:
Psycho_666 said:
does it says anywhere that it won't trip knox?
i've looked but haven't seen anything about that.
so why would you think about something like that? if it would be possible it would've been huge news everywhere
so i think it's safe to assume you thought completely wrong about that it won't trip knox :good:
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we don't know if it trips knox until someone tries it and post it the results here.
sxjg23 said:
we don't know if it trips knox until someone tries it and post it the results here.
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Dear sxjg23. Be our guest and give it a try.
Please let us know the result.
Nowhere to read if it don't trip Knox. It looks the same as the Kingo root server based method. My advice : root with Chainfire's solution via Odin. Yes, it trips Knox but it'a a safe and proven method.
I've tried both methods of SRSRoot, which says it's rooted but actually it's not. Some apps (root checker, titanium backup) complain it's not rooted.
Maybe I'm doing something bad.
I'll use the well-proven cf-root method instead.