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Unable to send/receive MMS messages...

Hi all,
I have recently flashed my M1000 with the new ROM that is available from Orange which has the MMS application by ArcSoft. Look at this post for more relevant info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10914
Someone sent me a couple of MMS messages the other day (my first MMS messages on this device - I RARELY ever use MMS) and this is where my problem started.
I have attached a couple of images to help explain the problem...
The picture below shows the settings of the MMS composer with no connections listed in the "Connect via" list
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This piccy shows the list box expanded... Still showing nothing..
The image below shows that I do have a valid server for the composer to receive MMS messages from. The values in here have been confirmed by Ornage customer support as being correct.
Fnally, the image below was taken from Start->Settings->ConnectionsConnections->Advanced->Select Networks
As you can see, I definitely have several connecctions available including the MMS connection.
I have been in touch with Orange customer services and was escalated to their Level 2 support but the only thing they could suggest is re-flashing the ROM.
My device has been hard-booted a couple of times (due to some installed software and not my doing...) so I don't think re-flashing the ROM would make that much difference - although I could be very wrong about that!
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that's quite interesting! ... ROM flashing is not a bad idea as you have nothing to loose ... but I would advice you to start by changing the MMS Composer cab file in the extended ROM with a newer version ... I guess it's the problem of MMS composer not able to read properly from the registry data ... if the registry data itself is corrupted (valid if you can't use any other connectivity) then ROM flashing with a higher version is a must ... good luck.

Thanks Biso007 for the reply...
I've enabled the Extended Rom in my phone and tried running the MMS installer CAB file but this didn't help me at all.
Do you (or anyone else for that matter) know of anywhere that I can get a newer version of the MMS composer? The version I have installed currently is 1.6.0.14.
I suppose I could re-flash the ROM but at this point my phone is working nicely and would require yet another re-build... Something I'm getting quite adept at now, but still a pain!

Hi NinjaDonkey,
You should try to delete \My Documents\UAContents folder on your device...
Serge

Sadly, all this did was remove the messages that I want to receive and didn't force the app to re-load the Connect Via list.
Is it possible someone could post their registry tree for the MMS composer located at: HKLM\SOFTWARE\ArcSoft
Cheers

It's now fixed...
Did a full backup with Sprite, the machine hard-rebooted itself for some strange reason (saved me having to do it as I was going to do it anyhoo!), opened up the MMS Composer, looked at the Connect via option and it had a nice full list of connections.
I took the bull by the horns and restored my full backup (hoping the connections list would be intact in the composer), rebooted after the restore and all the connections were still in the drop down.
How strange....
Sprite is definitely my best friend
BTW, does anyone know what ActiveSync insists that my device and outlook aren't synchronised after a restore? Active sync asks me whether I want to combine or replace entries, I normally select combine but not too sure what the difference is...!

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BTW, does anyone know what ActiveSync insists that my device and outlook aren't synchronised after a restore? Active sync asks me whether I want to combine or replace entries, I normally select combine but not too sure what the difference is...!
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I have noticed this behaviour from ActiveSync before. It seems there must be some flag somewhere that tells AS a contact or calendar event is 'synched' and that doesn't get restored.
If you select combine, the PC and PDA get two of everything, if you sel;ect replace, then the entries are replaced, so you only get one of each.

Hi NinjaDonkey
I noticed in your screen shots that there is a bar along the very top of your display - is this battery level or something? What software do you use?
Thanks
Pope <><

It's a battery meter.
It comes as part of Pocket Plus 2.1

AAARRGHHH!
This problem has reared it's ugly head again.
My device hard-reset some time ago and at the time I thought I'd re-build it from scratch instead of restore from a backup...
Time went on and no-one had sent me any MMS messages...
Then my brother (well, his other half actually) had a baby and he tried sending me an MMS message. Lo and behold, the same problem occurred!
I've tried getting in touch with ArcSoft but I've not gotten anything back from them at all.
Can anyone help???

Not sure I can be of any help - but the I had the same problems you describe. I opened up the rom files from the orange rom and extracted the MMS cab file - I already had all the rest so didn't want to go through the pain of rom flash.
Once I had installed the cab it just wouldn't send mms messages - and for exactly the reason you describe - I couldn't get anything into the connect via box on the options.
Luckily for me it corrected itself - I haven't done any hard resets or anything, though I have done plenty of soft resets.
Anyway it works fine on my phone at the moment so if there is any settings etc. you want me to look at or post you I'd be happy to help.
Hope you get this sorted - its a real pain.
Cheers

I've tried all sorts of things to get it working... below should have worked surely but it didn't..
1) Do a full backup of my phone, then hard-reset myself. Grap a copy of the registry for MMS Composer in it's working state and a copy of it's installed directory.
2) Restore the previous backup, imported the registry I just made and then copy over the installed directory I made too.
3) It should work now as it should be "identical" to the freshly hard-reset state.
Waaaaaaa!
What's going on?!?!
Sooo frustrating. Even the bods at Orange Tech support (level 2 I think I got to in the end) didn't have a clue.

Hi,
I think this is related to the MMS Composer software version.
I've had the same problem with 2 devices both running version 2.0.0.13.
And no problems at all with 2 devices running 2.0.0.16.

[Q] Why can I not send Picture messages on Nexus 4?

So I just got my nexus 4 today. Amazing phone... but the only problem I keep having is sending picture messages. I was able to receive picture messages, but that also took a long time to receive. I am on Tmobile and anyone else experience the same problem? Any suggestions on if I should contact Tmobile or if I should play around with the APN settings? Or is just because my phone had about 25% of battery left? Any help would be great. Thanks

mkamal23 said:
So I just got my nexus 4 today. Amazing phone... but the only problem I keep having is sending picture messages. I was able to receive picture messages, but that also took a long time to receive. I am on Tmobile and anyone else experience the same problem? Any suggestions on if I should contact Tmobile or if I should play around with the APN settings? Or is just because my phone had about 25% of battery left? Any help would be great. Thanks
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have the same issue on mine, just stuck on SENDING. also on TMO.

Same on Straight Talk :/

Had the same problem. Make sure your APN settings are correct for your carrier, fixed it for me.

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cloud1111 said:
Had the same problem. Make sure your APN settings are correct for your carrier, fixed it for me.
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yah this is why i am going to make a run to att in the morning and let them cut my sim down and stick in their apn. then i can test what they want me to use around here. then test flashing different modems later on.

The nexus 4 is made to be world phone with no specific carier affect. Call up your carrier and ask them to send the MMS settings to your phones. That should fix it.

dlovely said:
have the same issue on mine, just stuck on SENDING. also on TMO.
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This is exactly what my phone is doing also.
cloud1111 said:
Had the same problem. Make sure your APN settings are correct for your carrier, fixed it for me.
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When I check my APN settings... how exactly do i "make sure" my APN settings are correct for my carrier
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The nexus 4 is made to be world phone with no specific carier affect. Call up your carrier and ask them to send the MMS settings to your phones. That should fix it.
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I guess I will try calling my carrier today and ask them to send the MMS settings... lets see if this works.

Also make sure your using the stock messaging app and not a third party one. That has also been known to cause issues. There's a few threads out there about this same issue that mention this.
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deleted my APN and then manually created a new one with the exact same settings. rebooted. turned wifi off and attached a new pic and sent, it worked. tried it again with wifi on and it gets stuck "sending". sounds to me like my problem may be with wifi because if toggled back and forth turning it off and on and can reproduce the issue every time. for some reason mine doesn't like wifi on when sending mms.
BTW the old ones are still stuck showing "sending" so i'm not sure if they ever get delivered, have to wait for my girl to get home and ask her. the beauty of being with a school teacher, she can't use her phone at school!

Monk4Life said:
Also make sure your using the stock messaging app and not a third party one. That has also been known to cause issues. There's a fee threads out there about this same issue that mention this.
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Yup... I am using stock messaging. IDK why its not working on stock...
dlovely said:
deleted my APN and then manually created a new one with the exact same settings. rebooted. turned wifi off and attached a new pic and sent, it worked. tried it again with wifi on and it gets stuck "sending". sounds to me like my problem may be with wifi because if toggled back and forth turning it off and on and can reproduce the issue every time. for some reason mine doesn't like wifi on when sending mms.
BTW the old ones are still stuck showing "sending" so i'm not sure if they ever get delivered, have to wait for my girl to get home and ask her. the beauty of being with a school teacher, she can't use her phone at school!
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Hmm... well i just tried your method of deleting the old and setting up exactly as before.. and still nothing. I was able to send a picture message a few times yesterday but they went like 15 min after i sent it and ever since then... nothing.

mkamal23 said:
Yup... I am using stock messaging. IDK why its not working on stock...
Hmm... well i just tried your method of deleting the old and setting up exactly as before.. and still nothing. I was able to send a picture message a few times yesterday but they went like 15 min after i sent it and ever since then... nothing.
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i'm rooted but on stock messaging too. are you using wifi or mobile? the delete/manually recreate apn was something i saw on androidcentral when researching the issue. i'm about to call t-mo to rule out anything on their end. i never knew this was such a popular issue according to google.
if i send with wifi on it hangs on sending. i wait a minute, still stuck at sending. i then toggle off wifi and go back to messaging, and the for some reason it sends. weird...

dlovely said:
i'm rooted but on stock messaging too. are you using wifi or mobile? the delete/manually recreate apn was something i saw on androidcentral when researching the issue. i'm about to call t-mo to rule out anything on their end. i never knew this was such a popular issue according to google.
if i send with wifi on it hangs on sending. i wait a minute, still stuck at sending. i then toggle off wifi and go back to messaging, and the for some reason it sends. weird...
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I was using mobile. I know its not working on WiFi. I had no problems before this on my GS2. But yeah... let me know if u get in hold on tmobile. I prob will try to do the same later today after work.

mkamal23 said:
I was using mobile. I know its not working on WiFi. I had no problems before this on my GS2. But yeah... let me know if u get in hold on tmobile. I prob will try to do the same later today after work.
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called t-mobile, kinda useless. they verified apn settings and said everything was fine. the only useful info they gave which i completely overlooked was sending MMS to myself lol didn't even think of trying that instead of spamming my girl with useless pictures.
turns out i was wrong about just blaming wifi alone. the issue with mine was using wifi and adblock plus! i turned off adblock plus and everything was better. uninstalled the app until it's fixed and went with a hosts file replacement to block ads in the meantime.

having this problem too, i can't send via 3g or wifi, maybe i need to reboot

Monk4Life said:
Also make sure your using the stock messaging app and not a third party one. That has also been known to cause issues. There's a few threads out there about this same issue that mention this.
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Yeah, THIS is weird. I was using Go SMS Pro and no pictures would go. But when I went to the stock messaging app for the pictures, they went almost immediately. The APN settings were correct, don't know what stops them from going with Go SMS.

Can confirm that Go SMS doesn't send pics no matter what.

Connection Problem - No Email & Not Sending Pictures
I took my phone to T-Mobile today They made a call to an "expert" and while I waited, the problem was solved. After updating to 4.3 on my Nexus 4, I couldn't connect to my email and could not send pictures. I was asked to delete my email accounts and re-enter them:victory:. This solved the problem! I guess after the upgrade, my connection/emails, whatever couldn't be 'read' so had to start from scratch. All of my email was there. Hope this helps someone else who's having this problem.

I'm on rogers canada, can't send pics sms either… stock or go sms
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I'd really recommend GO SMS for text/MMS service. On go SMS settings change the maximum MMS size to 500 KB, and check "preserve image resolution". Also put Nexus as your user agent. Same with stock messaging if you prefer the stock. If you are using go SMS make sure to disable the stock so it does not interfere with each other. Hope it helps. This is my settings I use and it works.
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[Q] No MMS After KitKat Update

Hello all! I'm having a problem I hope someone can help me with. I recently updated my Note 3 with the leaked KitKat build and while everything seems to be working fine, I have lost the ability to receive MMS picture messages. I can send them to anyone just fine, but have not been able to receive one since. My fiance has sent me several and I don't get the picture or any kind of notification of a new message. I've tried both the stock messaging app, and Handcent, no difference with either. Anyone out there have any suggestions? Thanks!

Try the Verizon messaging app from the play store. You can even access your messages from the Web and has a built in cloud backup.
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bpopilek said:
Hello all! I'm having a problem I hope someone can help me with. I recently updated my Note 3 with the leaked KitKat build and while everything seems to be working fine, I have lost the ability to receive MMS picture messages. I can send them to anyone just fine, but have not been able to receive one since. My fiance has sent me several and I don't get the picture or any kind of notification of a new message. I've tried both the stock messaging app, and Handcent, no difference with either. Anyone out there have any suggestions? Thanks!
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I had the same problem of sorts. Not sure if you could but I was able to get the picture message just not download it. I found that if I turned WiFi off and just went off cellular network it would download then though, but not when connected to wifi. Hope that helps.

I had the problem of sending mms with WiFi on with my Note 2, but no problems with mms at all on the Note 3 until the KitKat update. Is there a setting someplace that I am missing? It's weird that everything worked before the update.

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Alright, here's my story, after switching from Sense to CM11 when I first got my HTC One a few months ago things were working alright, then at some point I lost the ability to send or receive mms messages. I looked online and found that there were a few people with the same problem, most said the problem had to do with the apn settings, the solution to was either modified apn settings or using an alternate messaging program, such as 8sms.
Anyways, I tried several different apn setups to try and get my mms back, my LTE internet worked, but no mms. Eventually I found a setup that allowed me to send a mms to someone, but not receive one. I figured that was a good as I was going to get it.
After a few OTA nightly updates I decided to tinker with the apn settings again; my hope being that one of the new nightlies would have fixed the problem if I restored my apn settings to default. This didn't help and cost me the ability to even send mms. Needless to say I scoured the web to find usable apn settings again (I prefer to use the stock messaging app), eventually I ended up Frankensteining several together and found a solution that allowed for me to send and receive mms, as well as my LTE internet!
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Found APN settings that enable sending and receiving mms, as well as LTE internet (with a lte subscription, it's not a hack or anything).
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I know some people have connection problems including wifi, idk anything about that. This is just the set up I found that got mms sending and recieving working again.
EDIT
Get to 'APN Settings' by opening 'Voice Dialer' and saying clearly "Open APN", this will prompt you to open APN Settings, from there you can edit things.

bpopilek said:
I had the problem of sending mms with WiFi on with my Note 2, but no problems with mms at all on the Note 3 until the KitKat update. Is there a setting someplace that I am missing? It's weird that everything worked before the update.
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Fore me it works fine, i can send mms with wifi + data on. Did you fallow the instructions when you did the KK update...my suggestion is try to send the mms just using data but turn your wifi off, also make sure the receiver has the cellular data on if you are sending it to phone.
Hope it helps

Android Messages MMS broken on GS8 when Wifi is on

Unfortunately the MMS function of Android Messages is broken on the GS8 when Wifi is turned on. Unlike my Nexus 6, which is what I'm coming from, the GS8 completely dsables LTE/data when Wifi is on. And since Android Messages doesn't support Wifi, you cannot send/receive MMS messages. When viewing the latest reviews on the Play Store for Android Messages, I'm not the only one with this problem. I spent a good portion of my day yesterday trying to figure out how to keep data on when Wifi is on but no luck. And apparently this has been broken for a while because I remember going on a MTB trip to the actual mountains where there was no cell/data reception, and had to use Hangouts (ugh) to talk to the family since Android Messages won't talk over Wifi.
Not sure if there's a workaround, as I'm using Samsung Messages for now until Google (hopefully) fixes this.

I'm having the same problem, was just about to post about it and saw your topic. Hopefully they issue a fix for this, don't particularly care for Samsung's Messages app.

Thought LTE with WiFi on is a carrier setting? My T-Mobile phone doesn't have any issues and uses WiFi calling just fine also.
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My fiance's phone is having same issues with Google messaging app. Samsung app works just fine. She is using that for now.
We have reset phone. Activated new SIM card also.
I will not have her use Verizon message+ ever so I won't know if it's working.

Had the same issue. Turning wifi calling on and off did not make a difference.
I switched to using textra which works fine

Can confirm I have this issue with the google messages app; haven't tried with the samsung one.

Working fine on my S8+, Installed Google SMS app and its working fine on wifi.

Same issue using Android Messages

Does this mean that even if I disable wifi calling (Tmo variant s8), I won't be able to receive or make calls because data is disabled??

The Samsumg app works fine. It's Android Messages. Google needs to fix. I even turned on Developer Option and turned on the option to keep Data on while Wifi was on. Didn't make a difference. I reported it to Google, for whatever good that's going to do.

Same issues here. Verizon support told me it's because I'm using an app that doesn't support integrated messaging, but I know Messages worked on my S7 edge.
A new update hit APKMirror yesterday, but still having issues.

I had this issue using chomp sms. Found a post saying to change a setting in the app to have MMS behavior set to "system" instead of "legacy". It somehow fixes sms as well
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Doing a bit more research, I don't think this is an Android Messages issue, but more of a Samsung issue. I know that previous versions worked on my S7 edge, so I went back into the APKMirror archive and pulled out the release from December 2016. Still cannot send.
Samsung changed something with this phone release that is blocking Android Messages from working with MMS.

stevefrench85 said:
Doing a bit more research, I don't think this is an Android Messages issue, but more of a Samsung issue. I know that previous versions worked on my S7 edge, so I went back into the APKMirror archive and pulled out the release from December 2016. Still cannot send.
Samsung changed something with this phone release that is blocking Android Messages from working with MMS.
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I agree, seems they changed other things that break things as well, such as this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/chrome-push-notifications-reliable-s8-t3595599
Hopefully we get some fixes...

Something else to try, i enabled Advanced Calling and i seem to be able to send/receive on wifi with using Android Messages. It is working for me at the moment but not sure if that is what actually did it.
Also not sure if "Advanced" calling has gotten better, lots of reports of poor audio.

I believe it has to do with VoLTE, which you cannot edit on the s8 like you could on the s7. I can send MMS while on a call when on a 'HD' call, but can not when I'm am not on an HD call.

I am having a similar issue with Textra as well when sending MMS

I switched over to Pulse in the meantime and it's actually a pretty good app. It allows MMS/GIF/etc over WiFi on the S8; almost as good looking app but has more features.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger&hl=en

ElBeaner said:
I am having a similar issue with Textra as well when sending MMS
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Interesting. Textra and the stock Sammy Messages sends / receives MMS just fine on my VZW S8, but as noted above, Android Messages will not (and, I spent waaay too many hours trying to figure that out...).

tbcpn said:
Interesting. Textra and the stock Sammy Messages sends / receives MMS just fine on my VZW S8, but as noted above, Android Messages will not (and, I spent waaay too many hours trying to figure that out...).
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Mine seem to get hung up when I have Wifi on(taking longer to send and I don't see the cell radio turn on like I did with my G6

[Q] Hangouts not appearing as default messaging app option

So I have Hangouts which I use for texting (via Google Voice features to be more specific).
Since GVoice isn't supported as a default messaging app, I've been using Hangouts.
However, on my S8, I can't make Hangouts my default messaging app since it doesn't appear as an option.
I've installed other SMS apps to see if it was some bigger issue, though they're listed properly.
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I thought hangouts disabled non-voice SMS features awhile back. So you can SMS via your hangouts (e.g. "voice") number within hangouts, but anything to do with SMS inside hangouts is not considered "SMS" outside of hangouts—e.g. by the phone device.

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I thought hangouts disabled non-voice SMS features awhile back. So you can SMS via your hangouts (e.g. "voice") number within hangouts, but anything to do with SMS inside hangouts is not considered "SMS" outside of hangouts—e.g. by the phone device.
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Ugh. That's what I was afraid of.
I was using Hangouts on an older phone; maybe I was able to skirt around that disabling for a bit...
So basically there's nothing out there I can use as my default messaging app for my GV texts?

TheAma1 said:
Ugh. That's what I was afraid of.
I was using Hangouts on an older phone; maybe I was able to skirt around that disabling for a bit...
So basically there's nothing out there I can use as my default messaging app for my GV texts?
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Good question and I hope you get an answer to it.
In the meantime, as long as you have the APK for an older version that still integrated SMS, I don't see why you can't just uninstall the version on your S8 and replace it by sideloading the old APK. Or just get the version number and download it from any number of APK archive sites on the web.

Go to settings/apps and make sure hangouts has all the permissions enabled (including messages). After that, go back to hangouts and try to make it your default messaging whiting the app after you've enabled its permissions. Please report back if this works.

TheAma1 said:
Ugh. That's what I was afraid of.
I was using Hangouts on an older phone; maybe I was able to skirt around that disabling for a bit...
So basically there's nothing out there I can use as my default messaging app for my GV texts?
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Yeah, it's a shame. Google has so many chat products, and can't simplify a simple universal messaging service.
This is a good article about the Hangouts/SMS/Google Voice fallout recently. https://www.wired.com/2017/01/google-voice-update-makes-googles-messaging-strategy-confusing/

Nah even with all permissions enabled it's still not recognized by the OS as a possible default messaging app.

JDM9499 said:
Yeah, it's a shame. Google has so many chat products, and can't simplify a simple universal messaging service.
This is a good article about the Hangouts/SMS/Google Voice fallout recently. https://www.wired.com/2017/01/google-voice-update-makes-googles-messaging-strategy-confusing/
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Thanks for the link! It's indeed a real cluster...
I was initially looking into porting my GV number to my carrier (who knows when Google will shut-down GV altogether), but since I still need my carrier's number it's a dead end.
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Go to settings/apps and make sure hangouts has all the permissions enabled (including messages). After that, go back to hangouts and try to make it your default messaging whiting the app after you've enabled its permissions. Please report back if this works.
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Tried it with current GPlay version (18.0) but still no option available.
The permissions were initially turned off, but even after enabling all of them there was no option in either Hangouts either or the default app section.
.psd said:
Good question and I hope you get an answer to it.
In the meantime, as long as you have the APK for an older version that still integrated SMS, I don't see why you can't just uninstall the version on your S8 and replace it by sideloading the old APK. Or just get the version number and download it from any number of APK archive sites on the web.
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Awesome suggestion which seems to have worked!
Well, sort of.
I ended up getting the last version before the official SMS removal (17.0).
Lo and behold, the SMS section appeared in Hangouts' options:
Through there, I selected Hangout as my default SMS app, as well as my GVoice number and account to be the default sender:
I then used Google Assistant to text a contact...
Which ended up using Hangouts (yay) but through my carrier's SMS (boo). It's also two separate threads in Hangouts (one with texts sent via GV, another via the carrier).
So, almost back to square one (the goal being to default-text via GV across the device).
Since Hangouts is the default SMS app, I'm guessing the current issue may be that the vocal command for "texting" is somehow tied to the carrier's SMS in lieu of GV. Especially since Hangouts' SMS default is GV...

Hangouts is moving support for SMS. Got a notification on my s6 the other day. Messages by Google is the new app specifically for SMS MMS like things now.
I know.....mmmmmm ghey...

I'm in the same boat. I hate native cell text messaging (and test messaging in general). GV has always been the lifesaver for me. But it is a pain that it no longer can register as a messaging app.
I honestly don't care what app is used as long as it routes the SMS through GV and does not require cell connection to be active and messages are stored server side on Google so are searchable and available on all devices.

Switched to a new phone and was not able to reply to SMS messages via my Google voice number. So I uninstalled Hangouts, sideloaded version 16, set my default SMS app to Google Hangouts through version 16 and it went back to working. I then updated the Hangouts app and it informed me that SMS will no longer work. So I pressed the show me button in the message to close the persistent notification, it sent me to the Android Messaging app that I closed and I can now use Hangouts to send SMS again. Hope that helps.

I just tried this and it looks like it no longer works. After it forces me to update to the latest version of Hangouts my default messaging app goes back to Messages and Hangouts is no longer an option. Does anybody else have any ideas?