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Brand new N9005 Root Question without tripping Knox flag

hi,
i got my n9005 (quad core, 32gb, sadly simlocked[provider]) today.
Yet i did not do anything to it, not even boot it.
I don't wanna screw anything up for later.
I want to make a complete backup of it and root it without tripping knox flag.
I read about auto root from chainfire but since that trips knox flag i cannot choose that.
Then I came across Root de la Vega from designgears and chainfire that does not trip knox flag
but as i understand it, it will not work on n9005 since i dont see my device being mentioned,
so what choice do i have now?
Can I power on the device now anyways just to ota or would that be bad (before a complete backup)?
Thanks

Please help me out here

You need to establish what firmware version you have first, take a look in the settings, what version off firmware do you have?

RavenY2K3 said:
You need to establish what firmware version you have first, take a look in the settings, what version off firmware do you have?
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Austria (A1) 2013 September 4.3 N9005XXUBMI7 N9005VFGBMI1
Baseband N9005XXUBMI6
Even if i can root with URdlV 0.2, can i still remove provider simlock without tripping knox?
Somehow i get the impression i might be better off chainfireing it with autoroot after i flashed official unlocked german stock 4.3 over the current os. Triangleaway might come out in the next months so i can undo the knox trigger. Otherwise i might wait ages until i can use this phone...cos of the provider sim lock..
Thx

Do NOT update FW if you going to RDLV. MJ3 has new locked bootloader so you have to root first, then modify update FW.
Odinary carrier sim lock doesn't matter..
Read RDLV thread carefully again..
Sim lock has nothing to do with FW as long it's from same region and not special carrier locked bootloader
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Ok, i will not update stock fw!
Why doesn't provider lock matter and what bootloader do i have? I read everyone writing mj3 blabla but where do u actually see what i got.
My stock fw was 4.3 when i got the phone and i never changed anything

cassinni said:
Ok, i will not update stock fw!
Why doesn't provider lock matter and what bootloader do i have? I read everyone writing mj3 blabla but where do u actually see what i got.
My stock fw was 4.3 when i got the phone and i never changed anything
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Every Note 3 firmware is 4.3 until 4.4 kitkat arrives.
Find out your fw by settings/general/about phone, bottom line. If it has not .....MJ3, .....MJ6, ......MJ7 yet, your bootloader is not locked and you can RDLV.
If you're not gonna use the knox program, go for CF-autoroot instead.
Edit. Didn't see yor post above you said XXUBMI7. Do not update yet couse you have an early fw and can use RDLV
You clearly have some reading to do about firmwares and rooting etc..
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Yea, its weird cos it says MI and nowhere mJ but everyone mentions it.
What about the provider lock?
Where can i read up on all that important info and esp. The No-No's?

cassinni said:
Yea, its weird cos it says MI and nowhere mJ but everyone mentions it.
What about the provider lock?
Where can i read up on all that important info and esp. The No-No's?
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?? ...MI7 is your current fw. Newer update fw's: ....MJ3-7, you can download from sammobile.com and flash manually by software "Odin" later after if you wish to root.
If not rooted, you can get these updates OTA.
Read the RDLV thread to learn about that rooting method first. Search around in Note 3 forums for answers.
Sim-lock has nothing to do with this at all. You can not unlock sim by rooting.
You can remove sim lock if you buy special dial code at some web sites. You give them your IMEI and pay them for the unlocking code. Thats all I know about that.
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[Q] De-brand i9505 4.2.2 using official 4.3 without tripping Knox?

I've a i9505, unfortunately it's branded (but no locked) in T-Mobile. I'd love to install 4.3 on it, but T-Mobile hasn't released it, so it's unavailable in Kies.
I would like to know if it's possible to use official (non-branded) firmware and _not_ to trip Knox (as it voids warranty in Poland). I've went through most of Knox-related threads, but I fail to see clear indication of 1) if it's possible 2) how to do that.
Also, does anyone knows if, after de-branding the phone, I'll be able to upgrade from 4.3 to 4.4 (for example) without tripping Knox?
Any comments will be appreciated.

Bump, anyone?

Stasheck said:
Bump, anyone?
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1. If u still having Knox 0x0 and android 4.2.2 only u have to root ur phone and delete the apps branded.
2. If u dont have updates in Kies is better. Don't void ur warranty and enjoy with ur 4.2.2 firmware.

OK, my point is to get Android 4.3 and not trip Knox - T-Mobile hasn't released 4.3 yet, and god knows when they do that.
Alternative question: is there a way to install official 4.3 without installing Knox bootloader?

i'v been looking around for the same thing, but i dont think thats possible without installing a custom made ROM

OK, let's try to put it another way: given that I have 4.2.2, do I risk losing warranty when I install CWM and some de-KNOXed 4.3 using Odin? Or Triangle Away will just work, and I'll be able to flash default software in case I need to service the phone?

Rooted with RDLV, Knox 0x0. But, what now?

I have rooted my Note 3 succesfully with RDLV, without tripping Knox. I am really happy with that.
My phone is branded Vodafone, with CSC N9005VFGBMI1. The latest Firmware for that is MI7.
I have a few questions about this, hope someone can help me with this.
I want to update to N9005XXUDMK2_N9005OXADMK2_BTU.zip. I know it's a different csc, is that possible? (I know I will lose Knox 0x0)
If that is possible, how do I do that?
Thanks!

Pierre118 said:
I have rooted my Note 3 succesfully with RDLV, without tripping Knox. I am really happy with that.
My phone is branded Vodafone, with CSC N9005VFGBMI1. The latest Firmware for that is MI7.
I have a few questions about this, hope someone can help me with this.
I want to update to N9005XXUDMK2_N9005OXADMK2_BTU.zip. I know it's a different csc, is that possible? (I know I will lose Knox 0x0)
If that is possible, how do I do that?
Thanks!
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Somebody show me the way? Just flash the BTU with Odin? I don't mind tripping knox.

Pierre118 said:
I have rooted my Note 3 succesfully with RDLV, without tripping Knox. I am really happy with that.
My phone is branded Vodafone, with CSC N9005VFGBMI1. The latest Firmware for that is MI7.
I have a few questions about this, hope someone can help me with this.
I want to update to N9005XXUDMK2_N9005OXADMK2_BTU.zip. I know it's a different csc, is that possible? (I know I will lose Knox 0x0)
If that is possible, how do I do that?
Thanks!
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1. You should read the thread on how to update the system using Mobile Odin PRO without losing knox 0x0. Also keep in mind that you need to stop both ROM and security automatic updates in order to avoid having the knox flag triggered.
2. Also check http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=VOD#firmware
3. If you really want to change CSC away from VOD and for instance to BTU you should probably do that first at MI7 level (from your current MI7 VOD to MI7 BTU) if you want maximum safety and to be able to root again with knox 0x0. You might also need an app to help you checking/changing CSC, look around for threads discussing that specific topic.

Can I safely use a firmware with a CSC N9005VFGDMJ1? Or do I always have to use a firmware of the original CSC? (N9005VFGBMI1)?

Pierre118 said:
Can I safely use a firmware with a CSC N9005VFGDMJ1? Or do I always have to use a firmware of the original CSC? (N9005VFGBMI1)?
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You do not need to use a firmware with the original CSC, BUT:
- you should try to do as much of the changes as possible on OLDER versions with the old bootloader (so that you can still root and keep knox 0x0)
- writing a ROM with a different CSC will very often NOT change your effective CSC - many ROMs are multi-CSC and you might keep existing CSC on the new ROM; in order to finalize the change you will need to use a program that forces the CSC change (and you will see that the CSC was changed since it will totally wipe the user data in the phone - like a full factory reset)
- you should also be aware that some changes might mess things on your phone, so instead of jumping to the first change you can think-off you should first try to read more around here.

xclub_101 said:
You do not need to use a firmware with the original CSC, BUT:
- you should try to do as much of the changes as possible on OLDER versions with the old bootloader (so that you can still root and keep knox 0x0)
- writing a ROM with a different CSC will very often NOT change your effective CSC - many ROMs are multi-CSC and you might keep existing CSC on the new ROM; in order to finalize the change you will need to use a program that forces the CSC change (and you will see that the CSC was changed since it will totally wipe the user data in the phone - like a full factory reset)
- you should also be aware that some changes might mess things on your phone, so instead of jumping to the first change you can think-off you should first try to read more around here.
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Thanks for your helpful reply. I will take your advice and will read more around here before I do things I don't understand. I'm rooted now at firmware MI7, with 0x0 Knox. I did a lot of reading before I took that step. I will take time before I do the next one.

Pierre118 said:
Thanks for your helpful reply. I will take your advice and will read more around here before I do things I don't understand. I'm rooted now at firmware MI7, with 0x0 Knox. I did a lot of reading before I took that step. I will take time before I do the next one.
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Don't forget to disable automatic updates and security updates. Especially read the thread on Mobile Odin PRO and updating while keeping knox 0x0. (CSC is almost irrelevant in most cases - as long as 3G/4G from your provider is correctly detected; if you are rooted with knox 0x0 you will ALWAYS want to update the ROM manually under YOUR control and not when Samsung or your carrier wants to update your phone).

xclub_101 said:
Don't forget to disable automatic updates and security updates. Especially read the thread on Mobile Odin PRO and updating while keeping knox 0x0. (CSC is almost irrelevant in most cases - as long as 3G/4G from your provider is correctly detected; if you are rooted with knox 0x0 you will ALWAYS want to update the ROM manually under YOUR control and not when Samsung or your carrier wants to update your phone).
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What do you freeze in titanium backup so it won't update.

Dattack said:
What do you freeze in titanium backup so it won't update.
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Software Update (also Samsung Hub Update, but that is just since I never use the Samsung Hub). Right now I did not freeze the Security Policy Update but I am tempted - but on that I first disabled automatic security updates somewhere in settings.

Pierre118 said:
Can I safely use a firmware with a CSC N9005VFGDMJ1? Or do I always have to use a firmware of the original CSC? (N9005VFGBMI1)?
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In fact N9005VFGDMJ1 and N9005VFGBMI1 are from the same CSC

[Q] Can I use Towelroot to root my phone? 4.4.2

Hi,
I am really scared of bricking and getting the knox counter ****ed up (which shouldn't be a problem since im in EU, but it seems people get denied warranty anyway..).
Could anyone in here please take a look at the screens below do determine if
1) I can use Towelroot as it is?
2) And what version I am safe to update to > and still being able to root it without voiding knox?
Hope you guys can help me. I am a real newbie when it comes to this.
Thanks in advance,
Joseph
SCREENS:
imgur.com/a/q5MJE

ScaredOfBrickingEtc said:
Hi,
I am really scared of bricking and getting the knox counter ****ed up (which shouldn't be a problem since im in EU, but it seems people get denied warranty anyway..).
Could anyone in here please take a look at the screens below do determine if
1) I can use Towelroot as it is?
2) And what version I am safe to update to > and still being able to root it without voiding knox?
Hope you guys can help me. I am a real newbie when it comes to this.
Thanks in advance,
Joseph
SCREENS:
imgur.com/a/q5MJE
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Yes you can use TR up to and including build NE2, newer roms like NGx can be rooted by flashing an older kernel with Odin and then root it with TR and flash the NGx kernel with Odin, look here for how to do that http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044. These methods will not trip KNOX.

gee2012 said:
Yes you can use TR up to and including build NE2, newer roms like NGx can be rooted by flashing an older kernel with Odin and then root it with TR and flash the NGx kernel with Odin, look here for how to do that http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044. These methods will not trip KNOX.
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Thanks a lot for your reply. Appreciate it!!!

Towel root will work on any firmware build prior to June 6th. And will not increment the Knox flag unless something goes seriously wrong e.g. a power interruption during the write. (So use a UPS or notebook, rather than a desktop PC).
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S5 from kitkat to lolipop info

hi guys my name is mike i have S5 G900F model with stock 4.4.2 kitkat rooted with towelroot method Knox (0x0)
if i flashed with stock rom again to lolipop i lost root ? if yes can u tell me other way to do it without tripped know of course
ty in advance

nwmn said:
hi guys my name is mike i have S5 G900F model with stock 4.4.2 kitkat rooted with towelroot method Knox (0x0)
if i flashed with stock rom again to lolipop i lost root ? if yes can u tell me other way to do it without tripped know of course
ty in advance
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Hi Mike, search the forums before asking any questions. Search google. Don't expect everyone to do your job for you. Post your threads in the right section. This question has been asked and answered a million times and you'd know this if you took 5 minutes to search a little bit.
Here's your answer https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys5/comments/2ubsbs/guide_rooted_android_50_for_the_international/

out of curiosity, why dont you want to trip knox flag
"This question has been asked a million times and you'd know this if you took 5 minutes of your precious time to search a little bit."
Ironic for a man that follows people around *****ing at them to post in Q&A

Sorry guys i have spend many hours on forums to find a anwser but i dont find anything thanx for time anyways the link give me lingo is not exactly what i want i ask if can upgrader via odin in last lolipop stock filmware without loosing root exackly the way i do downgrade and other question is i have unlocked bootloader ? how can find that
i dont want void knox cuz phone is new

nwmn said:
Sorry guys i have spend many hours on forums to find a anwser but i dont find anything thanx for time anyways the link give me lingo is not exactly what i want i ask if can upgrader via odin in last lolipop stock filmware without loosing root exackly the way i do downgrade and other question is i have unlocked bootloader ? how can find that
i dont want void knox cuz phone is new
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What model do you have? Find out in phone settings in system / phone info. Sm-g900a has locked bootloader. I think verizon's phone also has a locked bootloader.
The link I gave you shows how to upgrade to lollipop, root it and keep knox 0x0.
Isn't that what you're looking for?

lingowistico said:
What model do you have? Find out in phone settings in system / phone info. Sm-g900a has locked bootloader. I think verizon's phone also has a locked bootloader.
The link I gave you shows how to upgrade to lollipop, root it and keep knox 0x0.
Isn't that what you're looking for?
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i have G900F i think i write it in first post , anyway well that i looking for but not exactly i wanna know if g900f have unlocking bootloader or how can find it and if i upgrade stock rom from kitkat to lolipop i lost root without change modem or anything else downgrade was easy my s5 was braned vodafone germany i download stock rom from samsung mobile and i made unbrand greece whymi must flash modem and why i must use moblile odin that is some questions turture me ty for ur time
ps. always i must put image verification to post this change after 10 post ?

nwmn said:
i have G900F i think i write it in first post , anyway well that i looking for but not exactly i wanna know if g900f have unlocking bootloader or how can find it and if i upgrade stock rom from kitkat to lolipop i lost root without change modem or anything else downgrade was easy my s5 was braned vodafone germany i download stock rom from samsung mobile and i made unbrand greece whymi must flash modem and why i must use moblile odin that is some questions turture me ty for ur time
ps. always i must put image verification to post this change after 10 post ?
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my bad, you did. 900f has an unlocked bootloader. when you upgrade to stock lollipop through OTA or Kies (or odin) it already includes bootloader and modem. When you do it the way described in that reddit link you flash the lollipop firmware, modem and bootloader separately. Apparently that method of updating needs it to be done so.
Honestly I have Knox 0x1 so I never cared for those methods, btw if you live in Germany then there's no need to care about Knox. In EU we're allowed to flash whatever we want and the guarantee stays intact even if you have Knox 0x1
ps. yes =p

lingowistico said:
my bad, you did. 900f has an unlocked bootloader. when you upgrade to stock lollipop through OTA or Kies (or odin) it already includes bootloader and modem. When you do it the way described in that reddit link you flash the lollipop firmware, modem and bootloader separately. Apparently that method of updating needs it to be done so.
Honestly I have Knox 0x1 so I never cared for those methods, btw if you live in Germany then there's no need to care about Knox. In EU we're allowed to flash whatever we want and the guarantee stays intact even if you have Knox 0x1
ps. yes =p
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thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?

nwmn said:
thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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Honestly, I don't know. That reddit link I gave you, I haven't read the guide myself. I just skimmed though it to be sure it was real but I don't know the details of it. Yes all G900Fs have an unlocked bootloader. :good:

nwmn said:
thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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Do you mean ota stock firmware notification? If yes then you will have it if Knox is still 0x0 if Knox however is 0x1 you will no longer be able to update via ota.
If you want to upgrade from KitKat to lollipop you must wipe data from recovery to avoid any issues. It is also not recommended by me to use titanium backup to restore apps because some might not be compatible with lollipop yet or some of the app data made for KitKat may have a conflict with lollipop system, however lots of apps have compatibility with lollipop and there is a chance you will have no issues at all when using titanium backup. Even if I said I don't recommend restoring data after such a major upgrade I do recommend having a backup whether it's with titanium backup or nandroid etc because you're able to restore apps one by one and make sure that what you restore won't be problematic.
Edit - if you update with flashfire app, there is an option to keep root when flashing from rooted KitKat to lollipop and users have reported that that feature does work for them (I personally haven't tried it).
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Here's a version of the method on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...2nd-method-t2843044/post54719865#post54719865