hi guys my name is mike i have S5 G900F model with stock 4.4.2 kitkat rooted with towelroot method Knox (0x0)
if i flashed with stock rom again to lolipop i lost root ? if yes can u tell me other way to do it without tripped know of course
ty in advance
nwmn said:
hi guys my name is mike i have S5 G900F model with stock 4.4.2 kitkat rooted with towelroot method Knox (0x0)
if i flashed with stock rom again to lolipop i lost root ? if yes can u tell me other way to do it without tripped know of course
ty in advance
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Hi Mike, search the forums before asking any questions. Search google. Don't expect everyone to do your job for you. Post your threads in the right section. This question has been asked and answered a million times and you'd know this if you took 5 minutes to search a little bit.
Here's your answer https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys5/comments/2ubsbs/guide_rooted_android_50_for_the_international/
out of curiosity, why dont you want to trip knox flag
"This question has been asked a million times and you'd know this if you took 5 minutes of your precious time to search a little bit."
Ironic for a man that follows people around *****ing at them to post in Q&A
Sorry guys i have spend many hours on forums to find a anwser but i dont find anything thanx for time anyways the link give me lingo is not exactly what i want i ask if can upgrader via odin in last lolipop stock filmware without loosing root exackly the way i do downgrade and other question is i have unlocked bootloader ? how can find that
i dont want void knox cuz phone is new
nwmn said:
Sorry guys i have spend many hours on forums to find a anwser but i dont find anything thanx for time anyways the link give me lingo is not exactly what i want i ask if can upgrader via odin in last lolipop stock filmware without loosing root exackly the way i do downgrade and other question is i have unlocked bootloader ? how can find that
i dont want void knox cuz phone is new
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What model do you have? Find out in phone settings in system / phone info. Sm-g900a has locked bootloader. I think verizon's phone also has a locked bootloader.
The link I gave you shows how to upgrade to lollipop, root it and keep knox 0x0.
Isn't that what you're looking for?
lingowistico said:
What model do you have? Find out in phone settings in system / phone info. Sm-g900a has locked bootloader. I think verizon's phone also has a locked bootloader.
The link I gave you shows how to upgrade to lollipop, root it and keep knox 0x0.
Isn't that what you're looking for?
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i have G900F i think i write it in first post , anyway well that i looking for but not exactly i wanna know if g900f have unlocking bootloader or how can find it and if i upgrade stock rom from kitkat to lolipop i lost root without change modem or anything else downgrade was easy my s5 was braned vodafone germany i download stock rom from samsung mobile and i made unbrand greece whymi must flash modem and why i must use moblile odin that is some questions turture me ty for ur time
ps. always i must put image verification to post this change after 10 post ?
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i have G900F i think i write it in first post , anyway well that i looking for but not exactly i wanna know if g900f have unlocking bootloader or how can find it and if i upgrade stock rom from kitkat to lolipop i lost root without change modem or anything else downgrade was easy my s5 was braned vodafone germany i download stock rom from samsung mobile and i made unbrand greece whymi must flash modem and why i must use moblile odin that is some questions turture me ty for ur time
ps. always i must put image verification to post this change after 10 post ?
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my bad, you did. 900f has an unlocked bootloader. when you upgrade to stock lollipop through OTA or Kies (or odin) it already includes bootloader and modem. When you do it the way described in that reddit link you flash the lollipop firmware, modem and bootloader separately. Apparently that method of updating needs it to be done so.
Honestly I have Knox 0x1 so I never cared for those methods, btw if you live in Germany then there's no need to care about Knox. In EU we're allowed to flash whatever we want and the guarantee stays intact even if you have Knox 0x1
ps. yes =p
lingowistico said:
my bad, you did. 900f has an unlocked bootloader. when you upgrade to stock lollipop through OTA or Kies (or odin) it already includes bootloader and modem. When you do it the way described in that reddit link you flash the lollipop firmware, modem and bootloader separately. Apparently that method of updating needs it to be done so.
Honestly I have Knox 0x1 so I never cared for those methods, btw if you live in Germany then there's no need to care about Knox. In EU we're allowed to flash whatever we want and the guarantee stays intact even if you have Knox 0x1
ps. yes =p
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thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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Honestly, I don't know. That reddit link I gave you, I haven't read the guide myself. I just skimmed though it to be sure it was real but I don't know the details of it. Yes all G900Fs have an unlocked bootloader. :good:
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thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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Do you mean ota stock firmware notification? If yes then you will have it if Knox is still 0x0 if Knox however is 0x1 you will no longer be able to update via ota.
If you want to upgrade from KitKat to lollipop you must wipe data from recovery to avoid any issues. It is also not recommended by me to use titanium backup to restore apps because some might not be compatible with lollipop yet or some of the app data made for KitKat may have a conflict with lollipop system, however lots of apps have compatibility with lollipop and there is a chance you will have no issues at all when using titanium backup. Even if I said I don't recommend restoring data after such a major upgrade I do recommend having a backup whether it's with titanium backup or nandroid etc because you're able to restore apps one by one and make sure that what you restore won't be problematic.
Edit - if you update with flashfire app, there is an option to keep root when flashing from rooted KitKat to lollipop and users have reported that that feature does work for them (I personally haven't tried it).
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Here's a version of the method on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...2nd-method-t2843044/post54719865#post54719865
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hi,
i got my n9005 (quad core, 32gb, sadly simlocked[provider]) today.
Yet i did not do anything to it, not even boot it.
I don't wanna screw anything up for later.
I want to make a complete backup of it and root it without tripping knox flag.
I read about auto root from chainfire but since that trips knox flag i cannot choose that.
Then I came across Root de la Vega from designgears and chainfire that does not trip knox flag
but as i understand it, it will not work on n9005 since i dont see my device being mentioned,
so what choice do i have now?
Can I power on the device now anyways just to ota or would that be bad (before a complete backup)?
Thanks
Please help me out here
You need to establish what firmware version you have first, take a look in the settings, what version off firmware do you have?
RavenY2K3 said:
You need to establish what firmware version you have first, take a look in the settings, what version off firmware do you have?
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Austria (A1) 2013 September 4.3 N9005XXUBMI7 N9005VFGBMI1
Baseband N9005XXUBMI6
Even if i can root with URdlV 0.2, can i still remove provider simlock without tripping knox?
Somehow i get the impression i might be better off chainfireing it with autoroot after i flashed official unlocked german stock 4.3 over the current os. Triangleaway might come out in the next months so i can undo the knox trigger. Otherwise i might wait ages until i can use this phone...cos of the provider sim lock..
Thx
Do NOT update FW if you going to RDLV. MJ3 has new locked bootloader so you have to root first, then modify update FW.
Odinary carrier sim lock doesn't matter..
Read RDLV thread carefully again..
Sim lock has nothing to do with FW as long it's from same region and not special carrier locked bootloader
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Ok, i will not update stock fw!
Why doesn't provider lock matter and what bootloader do i have? I read everyone writing mj3 blabla but where do u actually see what i got.
My stock fw was 4.3 when i got the phone and i never changed anything
cassinni said:
Ok, i will not update stock fw!
Why doesn't provider lock matter and what bootloader do i have? I read everyone writing mj3 blabla but where do u actually see what i got.
My stock fw was 4.3 when i got the phone and i never changed anything
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Every Note 3 firmware is 4.3 until 4.4 kitkat arrives.
Find out your fw by settings/general/about phone, bottom line. If it has not .....MJ3, .....MJ6, ......MJ7 yet, your bootloader is not locked and you can RDLV.
If you're not gonna use the knox program, go for CF-autoroot instead.
Edit. Didn't see yor post above you said XXUBMI7. Do not update yet couse you have an early fw and can use RDLV
You clearly have some reading to do about firmwares and rooting etc..
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Yea, its weird cos it says MI and nowhere mJ but everyone mentions it.
What about the provider lock?
Where can i read up on all that important info and esp. The No-No's?
cassinni said:
Yea, its weird cos it says MI and nowhere mJ but everyone mentions it.
What about the provider lock?
Where can i read up on all that important info and esp. The No-No's?
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?? ...MI7 is your current fw. Newer update fw's: ....MJ3-7, you can download from sammobile.com and flash manually by software "Odin" later after if you wish to root.
If not rooted, you can get these updates OTA.
Read the RDLV thread to learn about that rooting method first. Search around in Note 3 forums for answers.
Sim-lock has nothing to do with this at all. You can not unlock sim by rooting.
You can remove sim lock if you buy special dial code at some web sites. You give them your IMEI and pay them for the unlocking code. Thats all I know about that.
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Hey im new to all this note 3 buisuness (just sold my iphone 5s and got myself a nice note 3), so forgive me for my question
I want to flash a new firmware, does the country of the firmware realy matters? because my phone is imported and i have no idea from which country it came.
ps. does flashing a stock firmware will flag the knox?
Thanks
EDIT: flashed a new rom... but failed to flash a firmware
Flashing a stock firmware will not trip knox and use this app from here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo to get device information
daniblk said:
Hey im new to all this note 3 buisuness (just sold my iphone 5s and got myself a nice note 3), so forgive me for my question
I want to flash a new firmware, does the country of the firmware realy matters? because my phone is imported and i have no idea from which country it came.
ps. does flashing a stock firmware will flag the knox?
Thanks
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Hey thanks for your help..
Maybe you have an idea how to check if my n9005 bootloader is locked? I want to root it, but im afraid to brick it.
daniblk said:
Hey thanks for your help..
Maybe you have an idea how to check if my n9005 bootloader is locked? I want to root it, but im afraid to brick it.
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what's tour android version??? If already with 4.4 no BL problem you can root it directly with cf auto root or else
if not with 4.4 or you stay with 4.3 and root but many custom roms are not allowed to flash (4.4) or you update with odin and root and can install all 4.4 custom roms
Hello
I recently got my S4 i9505. I'm planning to root it
I have Android version 4.3
I used to flash costum roms on my s2 but I'm not really planning to do much flashing on my S4. not soon anyway
So as I connected the phone to Kies to make sure the drivers were downloaded so I can proceed with rooting
Firmware update popped up
I'm not sure what the best option for me now.
Should I root now and then I'd be able to flash a costume KK rom? and are there any stable ones that are better than the stock?
Can I use kies to update my rooted phone?
Maybe I should stick with JB 4.3? Which one is better 4.3 or 4.4.2?
I remember facing some issues when I update my s2 back. So I searched for the KK Update for the s4 and some people weren't so happy with their KK update
I know that doesn't represent the majority but still it could happen to me
So I confused myself
What is your advice to me?
sorry for the long post
Also I have an extra question What is KNOX? and do I need it?
egy_b0y said:
Hello
I recently got my S4 i9505. I'm planning to root it
I have Android version 4.3
I used to flash costum roms on my s2 but I'm not really planning to do much flashing on my S4. not soon anyway
So as I connected the phone to Kies to make sure the drivers were downloaded so I can proceed with rooting
Firmware update popped up
I'm not sure what the best option for me now.
Should I root now and then I'd be able to flash a costume KK rom? and are there any stable ones that are better than the stock?
Can I use kies to update my rooted phone?
Maybe I should stick with JB 4.3? Which one is better 4.3 or 4.4.2?
I remember facing some issues when I update my s2 back. So I searched for the KK Update for the s4 and some people weren't so happy with their KK update
I know that doesn't represent the majority but still it could happen to me
So I confused myself
What is your advice to me?
sorry for the long post
Also I have an extra question What is KNOX? and do I need it?
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First, the most problems in 4.4.2 are fixed, so if you flash the officical, latest firmware of your country you shouldn't have any problem.
An important thing: if you flash a custom rom, your warranty will be set 0x1, that means, you lost your garanty if you flash a custom rom, that's the so called KNOX. You can use knox like a second system on your phone, with all secure data in it, you can only access with a passwort and all datas are locked without this passwort.
Root your phone after the software update if you want to root it.
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First, the most problems in 4.4.2 are fixed, so if you flash the officical, latest firmware of your country you shouldn't have any problem.
An important thing: if you flash a custom rom, your warranty will be set 0x1, that means, you lost your garanty if you flash a custom rom, that's the so called KNOX. You can use knox like a second system on your phone, with all secure data in it, you can only access with a passwort and all datas are locked without this passwort.
Root your phone after the software update if you want to root it.
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the fact is that 4.4.2 GNG8 international version cannot be rooted....
christty31 said:
the fact is that 4.4.2 GNG8 international version cannot be rooted....
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That's wrong, just not with towelroot.
thank you for your input
Hi,
My cousin owns a Galaxy s4 i9505 LTE and he wanted to root it. Since i was using custom rom on my S3 i9300, He asked me to root his phone and i told him that the knox security will mess things up. Anyway i rooted it with CF Autoroot and root was successful but the phone started restaring periodically and he wanted me to restore it back to stock rom (Unroot). He bought it from UAE and the build version was I9505XXUGNH8. Since we didn't find any firmware for UAE from sammy site, he searched the google and found a link (samfirmware) and downloaded the firmware. Then i flashed it via odin. All is good.
Now he want to root it again but the SElinux status says Enforced. Tried towel root,kingoroot and other stuffs.. No hope. The Knox says 0x0 and knox void is 0x1. Android version is 4.4.2. please help me to root this phone.
Thanks in advance...
Use cf auto root. It's the only root method that works.
Afterwards make sure to delete everything knox related. There are plenty of guides out here that tell what to delete.
Thanks for the help.. and if you don't mind, can you please tell me where to find those threads about deleting knoz files and what should i do to get a custom recovery in i9505?????
azharkhalid said:
Thanks for the help.. and if you don't mind, can you please tell me where to find those threads about deleting knoz files and what should i do to get a custom recovery in i9505?????
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Nex time use SEARCH BUTTON.
- About the Knox files: HERE.
- Custom Recovery (for ex. TWRP): HERE.
Hey Guys,
I am a proud owner of a new S5 and I am no root newby as I had any other android devices before.
I read that it was possible to downgrade to 4.2 ANE2 Bootloader in order to root with Towelroot, so I might not trigger KNOX
But I read that the ne Models of the S5 have a locked bootloader, so a downgrade to ANE2 is not possible anymore.
Is this strill true?
I would love to see my Phone rooted but if its not possilble (its still in my package lol) I would rather send it back and decide for another phone -.- since I would like to keep my warranty intact.
Appreciate any answers
Regards!
the first thing when you ask put max information about your phone lol y know s5 have many series 900f 900h 900a and ....
Yup, need the model S5 first, then we can check if it can be rooted or not
Hey
it is 900f sorry I did not mention!
HustleberryFinn said:
Hey
it is 900f sorry I did not mention!
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Flash this with ODIN
http://download.chainfire.eu/397/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-klte-kltexx-smg900f.zip
If that doesn't work, flash TWRP 2.8.7.0 with ODIN, then flash SuperSu.zip from TWRP recovery
As I said in my beginning post. I would like to have my warranty intact, so I guess rooting with CF Auto Root is not the best Idea, isn't it? (It triggers KNOX)
My Problem is simply, that I would like to know if a downgrade to an earlier bootloader is still possible if the device is delivered with Android 5.0.
You are describing the procedure for towelrooting......flashing an older kernel, using Towelroot and then re - flashing your original kernel. This has worked for many people (myself included) who were on KitKat before they rooted.......
You are on lollipop, this method won't work for you as flashing a KK kernel onto a lollipop firmware will more than likely make the phone unbootable. .....meaning you won't be able to use towelroot at all.
If you want rooted lollipop and knox at 0x0, you'll have to downgrade the entire firmware to KK, towelroot it and use Flashfire to return to your original but root injected lollipop firmware.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
Rooting brand new s5 lollipop
Sorry if this a seems to be noob question (but i did not find any answer nowhere).
I want to root my S5 kltexx (G900F) through Odin3_v3.10.7 with TWRP.tar + UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.
Q:
What the difference between them (excepting date of publication and version)?:
- openrecovery-twrp-2.8.4.0-klte.tar
- openrecovery-twrp-2.8.4.0-gt-klte.tar
- twrp-2.8.7.0-klte.img
Which should i use?
Thanks in advance for answer.
triceraptor said:
Sorry if this a seems to be noob question (but i did not find any answer nowhere).
I want to root my S5 kltexx (G900F) through Odin3_v3.10.7 with TWRP.tar + UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.
Q:
What the difference between them (excepting date of publication and version)?:
- openrecovery-twrp-2.8.4.0-klte.tar
- openrecovery-twrp-2.8.4.0-gt-klte.tar
- twrp-2.8.7.0-klte.img
Which should i use?
Thanks in advance for answer.
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lol install the last release if you want to be sure no bug with latest custom roms
@triceraptor The 2.8.7.0 seems to be the only version of TWRP that works with some Lollipop firmwares too......
The 'img' file you quoted won't work with odin....you need the .tar version.
Also, make sure re-activation lock is off before you start......otherwise this WILL interfere with the flash.
You *should* be able to find it under....
Settings>>Security......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
keithross39 said:
You are describing the procedure for towelrooting......flashing an older kernel, using Towelroot and then re - flashing your original kernel. This has worked for many people (myself included) who were on KitKat before they rooted.......
You are on lollipop, this method won't work for you as flashing a KK kernel onto a lollipop firmware will more than likely make the phone unbootable. .....meaning you won't be able to use towelroot at all.
If you want rooted lollipop and knox at 0x0, you'll have to downgrade the entire firmware to KK, towelroot it and use Flashfire to return to your original but root injected lollipop firmware.
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Hey! Thanks for your post!
My problem is, that it is mentioned that you cannot fully downgrade to KK because the new Devices with Lolli have a locked bootloader. And with that, downgrading to an older KK OS will not do anything because with a modern bootloader its not possible to use towlroot.
So my original intention was simply to find out if it is true - Do the new devices have a locked loader or not.
If your option works, I am glad to try it out, but with a locked loader your advice seems kind of complicated.
To the best of my knowledge. locked bootloaders are carrier specific......
AT&T and (I believe) Verizon are the primary culprits.....There may be 'enhanced security' on newer bootloaders/firmware, but that's a separate issue. If your device is the 'F' variant, which is used mainly in Europe and the UK, a locked bootloader shouldn't be an issue.....It *might* be necessary to flash a .pit file simultaneously to the downgrade though, just to make sure that *every* trace of the LP firmware is removed (this isn't required every time, but is there as an option if needed).
However you play it, it would be best to keep checking to see that re-activation lock is disabled, as this will only lead to issues if it becomes enabled.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Hey! Thanks for your post!
My problem is, that it is mentioned that you cannot fully downgrade to KK because the new Devices with Lolli have a locked bootloader. And with that, downgrading to an older KK OS will not do anything because with a modern bootloader its not possible to use towlroot.
So my original intention was simply to find out if it is true - Do the new devices have a locked loader or not.
If your option works, I am glad to try it out, but with a locked loader your advice seems kind of complicated.
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I agree with Kieth. I was 90% sure it was carrier specific. You could use the towel root method, but I have rooted my phone the Cf way, and already get 0x1 so there is no point for me. You should be able to flash an older firmware. Then just reset all data and reboot good as old.
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keithross39 said:
To the best of my knowledge. locked bootloaders are carrier specific......
AT&T and (I believe) Verizon are the primary culprits.....There may be 'enhanced security' on newer bootloaders/firmware, but that's a separate issue. If your device is the 'F' variant, which is used mainly in Europe and the UK, a locked bootloader shouldn't be an issue.....It *might* be necessary to flash a .pit file simultaneously to the downgrade though, just to make sure that *every* trace of the LP firmware is removed (this isn't required every time, but is there as an option if needed).
However you play it, it would be best to keep checking to see that re-activation lock is disabled, as this will only lead to issues if it becomes enabled.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Hey! Thanks again!
So I tried to downgrade but my screen of my new 900f stays totally black after downgrading.
I found a thread with the same problems - btw u participated in it as well- http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/custom-recovery-protection-samsung-t3135004/page8
Do you know any solutions for it? I would really like to use the towlroot method
Did you downgrade with or without pit?
As I mentioned in my earlier reply, the pit will erase EVERY trace of the old firmware from the device. Just make sure you get the CORRECT pit as flashing the wrong pit has the *potential* to permanently brick your device.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
keithross39 said:
Did you downgrade with or without pit?
As I mentioned in my earlier reply, the pit will erase EVERY trace of the old firmware from the device. Just make sure you get the CORRECT pit as flashing the wrong pit has the *potential* to permanently brick your device.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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I haven't tried it with a PIT file yet, but ins on my schedule for tomorrow!
Just in Case - I search for tutorials right now - do I have to flash the pit simultaneously or is there any special order I have to do it?
With all my past devices I never had to put so much effort for a root -.-"
Lol.....newer device = bigger headache.
Yes the pit is flashed simultaneously....
Load it into odin as a file with pit extension (kinda obvious that one lol) and then load the firmware tar.....and flash.
Can't stress this enough though.......
MAKE SURE YOU GET THE CORRECT PIT.....
Good luck fella....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
keithross39 said:
Lol.....newer device = bigger headache.
Yes the pit is flashed simultaneously....
Load it into odin as a file with pit extension (kinda obvious that one lol) and then load the firmware tar.....and flash.
Can't stress this enough though.......
MAKE SURE YOU GET THE CORRECT PIT.....
Good luck fella....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Got some time the last hour. With the pit file - worked perfectly and rooted! Knox 0x0.
Thank you very much for your effort!
Glad I could help fella......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Glad I could help fella......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Hey! Same problem again. I had to send the device with the working downgrade back, because the mic was defect -.-
Now I tried to do the Same stuff with PIT file, but this time the Phone screen stays black
(Downgrade to ANE with Pit file. No Samsung Logo and nothing...have to geht to the Downgrad Menu blind in order to Flash the old 5.0 LP OS. Then it works again)
Do you have and other advices for me?