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Rooted with RDLV, Knox 0x0. But, what now?

I have rooted my Note 3 succesfully with RDLV, without tripping Knox. I am really happy with that.
My phone is branded Vodafone, with CSC N9005VFGBMI1. The latest Firmware for that is MI7.
I have a few questions about this, hope someone can help me with this.
I want to update to N9005XXUDMK2_N9005OXADMK2_BTU.zip. I know it's a different csc, is that possible? (I know I will lose Knox 0x0)
If that is possible, how do I do that?
Thanks!

Pierre118 said:
I have rooted my Note 3 succesfully with RDLV, without tripping Knox. I am really happy with that.
My phone is branded Vodafone, with CSC N9005VFGBMI1. The latest Firmware for that is MI7.
I have a few questions about this, hope someone can help me with this.
I want to update to N9005XXUDMK2_N9005OXADMK2_BTU.zip. I know it's a different csc, is that possible? (I know I will lose Knox 0x0)
If that is possible, how do I do that?
Thanks!
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Somebody show me the way? Just flash the BTU with Odin? I don't mind tripping knox.

Pierre118 said:
I have rooted my Note 3 succesfully with RDLV, without tripping Knox. I am really happy with that.
My phone is branded Vodafone, with CSC N9005VFGBMI1. The latest Firmware for that is MI7.
I have a few questions about this, hope someone can help me with this.
I want to update to N9005XXUDMK2_N9005OXADMK2_BTU.zip. I know it's a different csc, is that possible? (I know I will lose Knox 0x0)
If that is possible, how do I do that?
Thanks!
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1. You should read the thread on how to update the system using Mobile Odin PRO without losing knox 0x0. Also keep in mind that you need to stop both ROM and security automatic updates in order to avoid having the knox flag triggered.
2. Also check http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=VOD#firmware
3. If you really want to change CSC away from VOD and for instance to BTU you should probably do that first at MI7 level (from your current MI7 VOD to MI7 BTU) if you want maximum safety and to be able to root again with knox 0x0. You might also need an app to help you checking/changing CSC, look around for threads discussing that specific topic.

Can I safely use a firmware with a CSC N9005VFGDMJ1? Or do I always have to use a firmware of the original CSC? (N9005VFGBMI1)?

Pierre118 said:
Can I safely use a firmware with a CSC N9005VFGDMJ1? Or do I always have to use a firmware of the original CSC? (N9005VFGBMI1)?
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You do not need to use a firmware with the original CSC, BUT:
- you should try to do as much of the changes as possible on OLDER versions with the old bootloader (so that you can still root and keep knox 0x0)
- writing a ROM with a different CSC will very often NOT change your effective CSC - many ROMs are multi-CSC and you might keep existing CSC on the new ROM; in order to finalize the change you will need to use a program that forces the CSC change (and you will see that the CSC was changed since it will totally wipe the user data in the phone - like a full factory reset)
- you should also be aware that some changes might mess things on your phone, so instead of jumping to the first change you can think-off you should first try to read more around here.

xclub_101 said:
You do not need to use a firmware with the original CSC, BUT:
- you should try to do as much of the changes as possible on OLDER versions with the old bootloader (so that you can still root and keep knox 0x0)
- writing a ROM with a different CSC will very often NOT change your effective CSC - many ROMs are multi-CSC and you might keep existing CSC on the new ROM; in order to finalize the change you will need to use a program that forces the CSC change (and you will see that the CSC was changed since it will totally wipe the user data in the phone - like a full factory reset)
- you should also be aware that some changes might mess things on your phone, so instead of jumping to the first change you can think-off you should first try to read more around here.
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Thanks for your helpful reply. I will take your advice and will read more around here before I do things I don't understand. I'm rooted now at firmware MI7, with 0x0 Knox. I did a lot of reading before I took that step. I will take time before I do the next one.

Pierre118 said:
Thanks for your helpful reply. I will take your advice and will read more around here before I do things I don't understand. I'm rooted now at firmware MI7, with 0x0 Knox. I did a lot of reading before I took that step. I will take time before I do the next one.
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Don't forget to disable automatic updates and security updates. Especially read the thread on Mobile Odin PRO and updating while keeping knox 0x0. (CSC is almost irrelevant in most cases - as long as 3G/4G from your provider is correctly detected; if you are rooted with knox 0x0 you will ALWAYS want to update the ROM manually under YOUR control and not when Samsung or your carrier wants to update your phone).

xclub_101 said:
Don't forget to disable automatic updates and security updates. Especially read the thread on Mobile Odin PRO and updating while keeping knox 0x0. (CSC is almost irrelevant in most cases - as long as 3G/4G from your provider is correctly detected; if you are rooted with knox 0x0 you will ALWAYS want to update the ROM manually under YOUR control and not when Samsung or your carrier wants to update your phone).
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What do you freeze in titanium backup so it won't update.

Dattack said:
What do you freeze in titanium backup so it won't update.
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Software Update (also Samsung Hub Update, but that is just since I never use the Samsung Hub). Right now I did not freeze the Security Policy Update but I am tempted - but on that I first disabled automatic security updates somewhere in settings.

Pierre118 said:
Can I safely use a firmware with a CSC N9005VFGDMJ1? Or do I always have to use a firmware of the original CSC? (N9005VFGBMI1)?
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In fact N9005VFGDMJ1 and N9005VFGBMI1 are from the same CSC

[Q] How to Regional unlock Note 3 FW MJ4?

My Note3 (SM-N900W8) has been upgraded to MJ4. The "Regional Lock Away" can not unlock it. As I know, there is no way to downgrade my phone to MJ1. Is there any way to unlock it?

Upgrade to Kitkat (it works on there, plus the XEO firmware is region free) , if you read @polish_pat's guide, the W8 is the only version that can upgrade and downgrade - and you can apparently root without affecting KNOX also. But make sure to read it all.

radicalisto said:
Upgrade to Kitkat (it works on there, plus the XEO firmware is region free) , if you read @polish_pat's guide, the W8 is the only version that can upgrade and downgrade - and you can apparently root without affecting KNOX also. But make sure to read it all.
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Thanks for the plug. You can see my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618633
As for the unlock, i think it's worth paying 19$ and getting a perma-unlock. Check this site, it was 15$ before but i guess they bumped up the price...this way you wont need to worry about unlock anymore http://unlock.canadagsm.ca/samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-network-unlock/

Is there any way to downgrade the modem?

[Q] Haven't ever been able to upgrade firmware on Note 3 since purchase - what's up?

Hola,
Got my Note 3 a while back, and I'm getting itchy firmware fingers!
Maybe I'm being stupid - but so far I haven't had any luck in 'automatically' finding updated firmwares - still sitting on the MHN one that was installed when I bought the phone back on November.
Am I doing anything wrong? Do I need to root to be able to update the firmware? KIES says I'm on the latest... Not a network locked phone - have used t-mob, orange and currently a 3 sim.
Halp!

Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!

pipohippo said:
Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!
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mate why dont you update via pc odin then ? and you dont need root to upgrade via kies
here try this for guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help/guide-odin-flash-guide-t1671969
get your firmware from here
http://www.samfirmware.com/

pipohippo said:
Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!
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Maybe you should post more details - for instance what version of Note 3 do you have (ideally you want to know the original code, something like N9005ZWE or N9005ZKEBTU, which identifies a N9005 for UK) and what firmware are you right now. And eventually what have you asked when originally asked about the country where you are (for the license agreement). If the combinations above get very weird you also need to know your effective CSC, but that could be a longer shot.

Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)

pipohippo said:
Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)
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No my friend as I said before updating via odi n dsnt require root... great now you can just download 4.4.2 firmware for your note 3 and update
Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk

pipohippo said:
Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)
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N9005ZKEBTU seems to be be EU-British unlocked N9005 - I would assume that you also picked UK when asked about the license agreement.
N9005XXUBMHN is a very interesting version of the firmware that is not even listed here:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=BTU#firmware
You seem to have a fairly recent firmware and for the moment there is no 4.4.2 version of the BTU sub-region.

I am guessing that the firmware is actually way old, so it's not listed! Assuming the firmwares are in alphabetical order!
MHx < MJx
All UK aye - good to know that the phone is actually unlocked though I'll have a look on SamMobile and grab a nice 4.3 firmware - not ready for KitKat yet!
xclub_101 said:
N9005ZKEBTU seems to be be EU-British unlocked N9005 - I would assume that you also picked UK when asked about the license agreement.
N9005XXUBMHN is a very interesting version of the firmware that is not even listed here:
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You seem to have a fairly recent firmware and for the moment there is no 4.4.2 version of the BTU sub-region.
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pipohippo said:
I am guessing that the firmware is actually way old, so it's not listed! Assuming the firmwares are in alphabetical order!
MHx < MJx
All UK aye - good to know that the phone is actually unlocked though I'll have a look on SamMobile and grab a nice 4.3 firmware - not ready for KitKat yet!
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Hmm, for some reason I was thinking MK instead of MH, indeed your firmware is unusual! But please be aware that those old firmware versions are the only ones that can be safely rooted without triggering the knox warranty flag. Which reminds me - if you go to download mode do you see any reference to knox?

Knox Kernal Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
I am guessing that is kind of good right?
final clarification - rooting has the possibility of triggering knox warranty shizzle, but just doing a 'standard' firmware update (even via odin) should keep things fine right?
xclub_101 said:
Hmm, for some reason I was thinking MK instead of MH, indeed your firmware is unusual! But please be aware that those old firmware versions are the only ones that can be safely rooted without triggering the knox warranty flag. Which reminds me - if you go to download mode do you see any reference to knox?
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pipohippo said:
Knox Kernal Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
I am guessing that is kind of good right?
final clarification - rooting has the possibility of triggering knox warranty shizzle, but just doing a 'standard' firmware update (even via odin) should keep things fine right?
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Correct, standard Odin update WITH THE RIGHT FIRMWARE will be fine.
IMHO your absolute best path from this point would be something like this:
- save whatever you need to save to the cloud or eventually on the external microSD (just in case)
- disable reactivation lock; disable any updates and security updates in the current ROM; stop mobile data and WiFi; keep all updates off and all network off until the very last step of the entire procedure
- using normal Odin and download mode install oldest BTU firmware you can get - MI7 in the link I provided above; that update should go without any problem; reboot and check everything is OK (and stop again any network or update if re-enabled); this step is only needed in order to get you on the EXACT same path that the huge majority of the people around (including me) have used with URDLV; it might be possible to skip this and still have everything working 100% (and this is quite very likely but I have not tested it);
- using Universal Root de la Vega (URDLV) and the same MI7 from above you will generate a N9005XX____MI7_HOME_VEGA.tar.md5 file which then you will again write with normal Odin and in download mode; this will get you rooted on MI7 with knox 0x0 ; you can read more about this in the URDLV thread
- then using Mobile Odin Pro (NOT normal Odin / download mode) and the most recent 4.3 version available for BTU you can update to MJ7 or MK2 - while keeping root and knox 0x0!
Read for more details on the last step this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
Also note that Mobile Odin Pro will also let you update to 4.4 and keep root and knox 0x0, so it is not a bad investment. Also note that at this point there is no other way to root with knox 0x0 once you got past a certain firmware, nor is it possible to go back before the version of your bootloader (so in other words the above procedure also would guarantee that you can get back to MI7 if for instance you do not like MK2, something you would never otherwise be able to do).
As my signature shows - MJ7 / MK2 are currently very solid versions (and if you are rooted you can get amazing battery life and performance) and I would strongly suggest avoiding any upgrade towards 4.4 in the immediate future.

S5 from kitkat to lolipop info

hi guys my name is mike i have S5 G900F model with stock 4.4.2 kitkat rooted with towelroot method Knox (0x0)
if i flashed with stock rom again to lolipop i lost root ? if yes can u tell me other way to do it without tripped know of course
ty in advance

nwmn said:
hi guys my name is mike i have S5 G900F model with stock 4.4.2 kitkat rooted with towelroot method Knox (0x0)
if i flashed with stock rom again to lolipop i lost root ? if yes can u tell me other way to do it without tripped know of course
ty in advance
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Hi Mike, search the forums before asking any questions. Search google. Don't expect everyone to do your job for you. Post your threads in the right section. This question has been asked and answered a million times and you'd know this if you took 5 minutes to search a little bit.
Here's your answer https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys5/comments/2ubsbs/guide_rooted_android_50_for_the_international/

out of curiosity, why dont you want to trip knox flag
"This question has been asked a million times and you'd know this if you took 5 minutes of your precious time to search a little bit."
Ironic for a man that follows people around *****ing at them to post in Q&A

Sorry guys i have spend many hours on forums to find a anwser but i dont find anything thanx for time anyways the link give me lingo is not exactly what i want i ask if can upgrader via odin in last lolipop stock filmware without loosing root exackly the way i do downgrade and other question is i have unlocked bootloader ? how can find that
i dont want void knox cuz phone is new

nwmn said:
Sorry guys i have spend many hours on forums to find a anwser but i dont find anything thanx for time anyways the link give me lingo is not exactly what i want i ask if can upgrader via odin in last lolipop stock filmware without loosing root exackly the way i do downgrade and other question is i have unlocked bootloader ? how can find that
i dont want void knox cuz phone is new
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What model do you have? Find out in phone settings in system / phone info. Sm-g900a has locked bootloader. I think verizon's phone also has a locked bootloader.
The link I gave you shows how to upgrade to lollipop, root it and keep knox 0x0.
Isn't that what you're looking for?

lingowistico said:
What model do you have? Find out in phone settings in system / phone info. Sm-g900a has locked bootloader. I think verizon's phone also has a locked bootloader.
The link I gave you shows how to upgrade to lollipop, root it and keep knox 0x0.
Isn't that what you're looking for?
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i have G900F i think i write it in first post , anyway well that i looking for but not exactly i wanna know if g900f have unlocking bootloader or how can find it and if i upgrade stock rom from kitkat to lolipop i lost root without change modem or anything else downgrade was easy my s5 was braned vodafone germany i download stock rom from samsung mobile and i made unbrand greece whymi must flash modem and why i must use moblile odin that is some questions turture me ty for ur time
ps. always i must put image verification to post this change after 10 post ?

nwmn said:
i have G900F i think i write it in first post , anyway well that i looking for but not exactly i wanna know if g900f have unlocking bootloader or how can find it and if i upgrade stock rom from kitkat to lolipop i lost root without change modem or anything else downgrade was easy my s5 was braned vodafone germany i download stock rom from samsung mobile and i made unbrand greece whymi must flash modem and why i must use moblile odin that is some questions turture me ty for ur time
ps. always i must put image verification to post this change after 10 post ?
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my bad, you did. 900f has an unlocked bootloader. when you upgrade to stock lollipop through OTA or Kies (or odin) it already includes bootloader and modem. When you do it the way described in that reddit link you flash the lollipop firmware, modem and bootloader separately. Apparently that method of updating needs it to be done so.
Honestly I have Knox 0x1 so I never cared for those methods, btw if you live in Germany then there's no need to care about Knox. In EU we're allowed to flash whatever we want and the guarantee stays intact even if you have Knox 0x1
ps. yes =p

lingowistico said:
my bad, you did. 900f has an unlocked bootloader. when you upgrade to stock lollipop through OTA or Kies (or odin) it already includes bootloader and modem. When you do it the way described in that reddit link you flash the lollipop firmware, modem and bootloader separately. Apparently that method of updating needs it to be done so.
Honestly I have Knox 0x1 so I never cared for those methods, btw if you live in Germany then there's no need to care about Knox. In EU we're allowed to flash whatever we want and the guarantee stays intact even if you have Knox 0x1
ps. yes =p
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thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?

nwmn said:
thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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Honestly, I don't know. That reddit link I gave you, I haven't read the guide myself. I just skimmed though it to be sure it was real but I don't know the details of it. Yes all G900Fs have an unlocked bootloader. :good:

nwmn said:
thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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Do you mean ota stock firmware notification? If yes then you will have it if Knox is still 0x0 if Knox however is 0x1 you will no longer be able to update via ota.
If you want to upgrade from KitKat to lollipop you must wipe data from recovery to avoid any issues. It is also not recommended by me to use titanium backup to restore apps because some might not be compatible with lollipop yet or some of the app data made for KitKat may have a conflict with lollipop system, however lots of apps have compatibility with lollipop and there is a chance you will have no issues at all when using titanium backup. Even if I said I don't recommend restoring data after such a major upgrade I do recommend having a backup whether it's with titanium backup or nandroid etc because you're able to restore apps one by one and make sure that what you restore won't be problematic.
Edit - if you update with flashfire app, there is an option to keep root when flashing from rooted KitKat to lollipop and users have reported that that feature does work for them (I personally haven't tried it).
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Here's a version of the method on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...2nd-method-t2843044/post54719865#post54719865

Difference between model number and about device

Hi, i know there is another thread but i think is not the same problem.
In "About Device" my S5 show SM-G900F branded for United Arab Emirates (XSG - G900FXXU1POEC) but in "Download Mode" the screen info show me different version of galaxy S5..... SM-G9006V wich is from China.....wtf?
Is something like that legit?
My question is if i want to flash new firmware for XSG ( G900FXXU1POI1 ) will it work or i brick device / or trip Knox?
The firmware for SM-G9006V use different CSC and if i try to flash this will triping KNOX waranty, is corect?
INFO
-I forgot to mention that sees no new firmware via Kies, OTA or Smart Switch although there are two firmware already released.
-When i try "Firmware upgrade and initialization" in Kies 3 after type of Model name field -SM-G900F and serial number
its say my serial number is wrong but when type in Model name field SM-G9006V and serial the procedure want to continue wich meant is OK.

The System operational you need to download the exact one that is described on Download Mode.
The Download mode is the real one.
If you want to flash only the modem/CSC you can flash the G900F.
But the Kernel and the Bootloader i think you need to flash the G9006V.
if you flash an Firmware differently from your download mode you can brick your device (Soft-Brick, not Hard-Brick)
If you bought it from someone, you can easily edit on config to show anything you want on About Device.

Hi, thanks for answer, but its something i dont get it.
How they manage to do some thing, flashing G9006V firmware and after that flashing G900F XSG firmware ( AP-CP-CSC) without triger the Knox.
Anyway, Is there an easier way to flash the latest update for the UAE of September 2015 and to keep the same configuration, the bootloader from G9006V,
XSG G900F kernel and CSC from UAE without enable Knox or brick my phone.

cryogent said:
Hi, thanks for answer, but its something i dont get it.
How they manage to do some thing, flashing G9006V firmware and after that flashing G900F XSG firmware ( AP-CP-CSC) without triger the Knox.
Anyway, Is there an easier way to flash the latest update for the UAE of September 2015 and to keep the same configuration, the bootloader from G9006V,
XSG G900F kernel and CSC from UAE without enable Knox or brick my phone.
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As far as I know only custom kernels and custom recoveries trigger Knox. Technically custom non touchwiz roms also will I believe, but since you flash them from recovery that's a little implied, not 100% sure on that though, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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To flash anything you need to root. therefore you are going to trigger the knox.
I BELIEVE that you can only flash original firmware TOUCH WIZ without root

DBlackFireD said:
To flash anything you need to root. therefore you are going to trigger the knox.
I BELIEVE that you can only flash original firmware TOUCH WIZ without root
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Rooting does not trigger Knox.
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The only root method that WON'T trip knox is towelroot, and that method won't work on anything other than KitKat.
CF Root WILL trip knox.
TWRP WILL trip knox.
So for most people rooting will trip knox
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

I would like to point out that using apps such as kingoroot allow one click roots that won't trip Knox. After the build.prop is modified they can just unroot and it'll be like nothing happened

justinxfan said:
I would like to point out that using apps such as kingoroot allow one click roots that won't trip Knox. After the build.prop is modified they can just unroot and it'll be like nothing happened
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Point noted....I have no experience of those root methods....
The methods I mentioned are the main methods (with dedicated threads) to be found/mentioned on XDA........
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

Thank you all for your help but leave this thread because I gave the phone back and chose another producer.
The problem could not be solved by those at the store because all the phones were lot of the same trouble.
Sorry I can not help you with other information in the future.

Thank
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