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Brand new N9005 Root Question without tripping Knox flag

hi,
i got my n9005 (quad core, 32gb, sadly simlocked[provider]) today.
Yet i did not do anything to it, not even boot it.
I don't wanna screw anything up for later.
I want to make a complete backup of it and root it without tripping knox flag.
I read about auto root from chainfire but since that trips knox flag i cannot choose that.
Then I came across Root de la Vega from designgears and chainfire that does not trip knox flag
but as i understand it, it will not work on n9005 since i dont see my device being mentioned,
so what choice do i have now?
Can I power on the device now anyways just to ota or would that be bad (before a complete backup)?
Thanks

Please help me out here

You need to establish what firmware version you have first, take a look in the settings, what version off firmware do you have?

RavenY2K3 said:
You need to establish what firmware version you have first, take a look in the settings, what version off firmware do you have?
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Austria (A1) 2013 September 4.3 N9005XXUBMI7 N9005VFGBMI1
Baseband N9005XXUBMI6
Even if i can root with URdlV 0.2, can i still remove provider simlock without tripping knox?
Somehow i get the impression i might be better off chainfireing it with autoroot after i flashed official unlocked german stock 4.3 over the current os. Triangleaway might come out in the next months so i can undo the knox trigger. Otherwise i might wait ages until i can use this phone...cos of the provider sim lock..
Thx

Do NOT update FW if you going to RDLV. MJ3 has new locked bootloader so you have to root first, then modify update FW.
Odinary carrier sim lock doesn't matter..
Read RDLV thread carefully again..
Sim lock has nothing to do with FW as long it's from same region and not special carrier locked bootloader
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

Ok, i will not update stock fw!
Why doesn't provider lock matter and what bootloader do i have? I read everyone writing mj3 blabla but where do u actually see what i got.
My stock fw was 4.3 when i got the phone and i never changed anything

cassinni said:
Ok, i will not update stock fw!
Why doesn't provider lock matter and what bootloader do i have? I read everyone writing mj3 blabla but where do u actually see what i got.
My stock fw was 4.3 when i got the phone and i never changed anything
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Every Note 3 firmware is 4.3 until 4.4 kitkat arrives.
Find out your fw by settings/general/about phone, bottom line. If it has not .....MJ3, .....MJ6, ......MJ7 yet, your bootloader is not locked and you can RDLV.
If you're not gonna use the knox program, go for CF-autoroot instead.
Edit. Didn't see yor post above you said XXUBMI7. Do not update yet couse you have an early fw and can use RDLV
You clearly have some reading to do about firmwares and rooting etc..
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

Yea, its weird cos it says MI and nowhere mJ but everyone mentions it.
What about the provider lock?
Where can i read up on all that important info and esp. The No-No's?

cassinni said:
Yea, its weird cos it says MI and nowhere mJ but everyone mentions it.
What about the provider lock?
Where can i read up on all that important info and esp. The No-No's?
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?? ...MI7 is your current fw. Newer update fw's: ....MJ3-7, you can download from sammobile.com and flash manually by software "Odin" later after if you wish to root.
If not rooted, you can get these updates OTA.
Read the RDLV thread to learn about that rooting method first. Search around in Note 3 forums for answers.
Sim-lock has nothing to do with this at all. You can not unlock sim by rooting.
You can remove sim lock if you buy special dial code at some web sites. You give them your IMEI and pay them for the unlocking code. Thats all I know about that.
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[Q] Haven't ever been able to upgrade firmware on Note 3 since purchase - what's up?

Hola,
Got my Note 3 a while back, and I'm getting itchy firmware fingers!
Maybe I'm being stupid - but so far I haven't had any luck in 'automatically' finding updated firmwares - still sitting on the MHN one that was installed when I bought the phone back on November.
Am I doing anything wrong? Do I need to root to be able to update the firmware? KIES says I'm on the latest... Not a network locked phone - have used t-mob, orange and currently a 3 sim.
Halp!

Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!

pipohippo said:
Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!
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mate why dont you update via pc odin then ? and you dont need root to upgrade via kies
here try this for guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help/guide-odin-flash-guide-t1671969
get your firmware from here
http://www.samfirmware.com/

pipohippo said:
Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!
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Maybe you should post more details - for instance what version of Note 3 do you have (ideally you want to know the original code, something like N9005ZWE or N9005ZKEBTU, which identifies a N9005 for UK) and what firmware are you right now. And eventually what have you asked when originally asked about the country where you are (for the license agreement). If the combinations above get very weird you also need to know your effective CSC, but that could be a longer shot.

Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)

pipohippo said:
Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)
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No my friend as I said before updating via odi n dsnt require root... great now you can just download 4.4.2 firmware for your note 3 and update
Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk

pipohippo said:
Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)
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N9005ZKEBTU seems to be be EU-British unlocked N9005 - I would assume that you also picked UK when asked about the license agreement.
N9005XXUBMHN is a very interesting version of the firmware that is not even listed here:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=BTU#firmware
You seem to have a fairly recent firmware and for the moment there is no 4.4.2 version of the BTU sub-region.

I am guessing that the firmware is actually way old, so it's not listed! Assuming the firmwares are in alphabetical order!
MHx < MJx
All UK aye - good to know that the phone is actually unlocked though I'll have a look on SamMobile and grab a nice 4.3 firmware - not ready for KitKat yet!
xclub_101 said:
N9005ZKEBTU seems to be be EU-British unlocked N9005 - I would assume that you also picked UK when asked about the license agreement.
N9005XXUBMHN is a very interesting version of the firmware that is not even listed here:
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You seem to have a fairly recent firmware and for the moment there is no 4.4.2 version of the BTU sub-region.
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pipohippo said:
I am guessing that the firmware is actually way old, so it's not listed! Assuming the firmwares are in alphabetical order!
MHx < MJx
All UK aye - good to know that the phone is actually unlocked though I'll have a look on SamMobile and grab a nice 4.3 firmware - not ready for KitKat yet!
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Hmm, for some reason I was thinking MK instead of MH, indeed your firmware is unusual! But please be aware that those old firmware versions are the only ones that can be safely rooted without triggering the knox warranty flag. Which reminds me - if you go to download mode do you see any reference to knox?

Knox Kernal Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
I am guessing that is kind of good right?
final clarification - rooting has the possibility of triggering knox warranty shizzle, but just doing a 'standard' firmware update (even via odin) should keep things fine right?
xclub_101 said:
Hmm, for some reason I was thinking MK instead of MH, indeed your firmware is unusual! But please be aware that those old firmware versions are the only ones that can be safely rooted without triggering the knox warranty flag. Which reminds me - if you go to download mode do you see any reference to knox?
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pipohippo said:
Knox Kernal Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
I am guessing that is kind of good right?
final clarification - rooting has the possibility of triggering knox warranty shizzle, but just doing a 'standard' firmware update (even via odin) should keep things fine right?
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Correct, standard Odin update WITH THE RIGHT FIRMWARE will be fine.
IMHO your absolute best path from this point would be something like this:
- save whatever you need to save to the cloud or eventually on the external microSD (just in case)
- disable reactivation lock; disable any updates and security updates in the current ROM; stop mobile data and WiFi; keep all updates off and all network off until the very last step of the entire procedure
- using normal Odin and download mode install oldest BTU firmware you can get - MI7 in the link I provided above; that update should go without any problem; reboot and check everything is OK (and stop again any network or update if re-enabled); this step is only needed in order to get you on the EXACT same path that the huge majority of the people around (including me) have used with URDLV; it might be possible to skip this and still have everything working 100% (and this is quite very likely but I have not tested it);
- using Universal Root de la Vega (URDLV) and the same MI7 from above you will generate a N9005XX____MI7_HOME_VEGA.tar.md5 file which then you will again write with normal Odin and in download mode; this will get you rooted on MI7 with knox 0x0 ; you can read more about this in the URDLV thread
- then using Mobile Odin Pro (NOT normal Odin / download mode) and the most recent 4.3 version available for BTU you can update to MJ7 or MK2 - while keeping root and knox 0x0!
Read for more details on the last step this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
Also note that Mobile Odin Pro will also let you update to 4.4 and keep root and knox 0x0, so it is not a bad investment. Also note that at this point there is no other way to root with knox 0x0 once you got past a certain firmware, nor is it possible to go back before the version of your bootloader (so in other words the above procedure also would guarantee that you can get back to MI7 if for instance you do not like MK2, something you would never otherwise be able to do).
As my signature shows - MJ7 / MK2 are currently very solid versions (and if you are rooted you can get amazing battery life and performance) and I would strongly suggest avoiding any upgrade towards 4.4 in the immediate future.

S5 from kitkat to lolipop info

hi guys my name is mike i have S5 G900F model with stock 4.4.2 kitkat rooted with towelroot method Knox (0x0)
if i flashed with stock rom again to lolipop i lost root ? if yes can u tell me other way to do it without tripped know of course
ty in advance

nwmn said:
hi guys my name is mike i have S5 G900F model with stock 4.4.2 kitkat rooted with towelroot method Knox (0x0)
if i flashed with stock rom again to lolipop i lost root ? if yes can u tell me other way to do it without tripped know of course
ty in advance
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Hi Mike, search the forums before asking any questions. Search google. Don't expect everyone to do your job for you. Post your threads in the right section. This question has been asked and answered a million times and you'd know this if you took 5 minutes to search a little bit.
Here's your answer https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys5/comments/2ubsbs/guide_rooted_android_50_for_the_international/

out of curiosity, why dont you want to trip knox flag
"This question has been asked a million times and you'd know this if you took 5 minutes of your precious time to search a little bit."
Ironic for a man that follows people around *****ing at them to post in Q&A

Sorry guys i have spend many hours on forums to find a anwser but i dont find anything thanx for time anyways the link give me lingo is not exactly what i want i ask if can upgrader via odin in last lolipop stock filmware without loosing root exackly the way i do downgrade and other question is i have unlocked bootloader ? how can find that
i dont want void knox cuz phone is new

nwmn said:
Sorry guys i have spend many hours on forums to find a anwser but i dont find anything thanx for time anyways the link give me lingo is not exactly what i want i ask if can upgrader via odin in last lolipop stock filmware without loosing root exackly the way i do downgrade and other question is i have unlocked bootloader ? how can find that
i dont want void knox cuz phone is new
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What model do you have? Find out in phone settings in system / phone info. Sm-g900a has locked bootloader. I think verizon's phone also has a locked bootloader.
The link I gave you shows how to upgrade to lollipop, root it and keep knox 0x0.
Isn't that what you're looking for?

lingowistico said:
What model do you have? Find out in phone settings in system / phone info. Sm-g900a has locked bootloader. I think verizon's phone also has a locked bootloader.
The link I gave you shows how to upgrade to lollipop, root it and keep knox 0x0.
Isn't that what you're looking for?
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i have G900F i think i write it in first post , anyway well that i looking for but not exactly i wanna know if g900f have unlocking bootloader or how can find it and if i upgrade stock rom from kitkat to lolipop i lost root without change modem or anything else downgrade was easy my s5 was braned vodafone germany i download stock rom from samsung mobile and i made unbrand greece whymi must flash modem and why i must use moblile odin that is some questions turture me ty for ur time
ps. always i must put image verification to post this change after 10 post ?

nwmn said:
i have G900F i think i write it in first post , anyway well that i looking for but not exactly i wanna know if g900f have unlocking bootloader or how can find it and if i upgrade stock rom from kitkat to lolipop i lost root without change modem or anything else downgrade was easy my s5 was braned vodafone germany i download stock rom from samsung mobile and i made unbrand greece whymi must flash modem and why i must use moblile odin that is some questions turture me ty for ur time
ps. always i must put image verification to post this change after 10 post ?
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my bad, you did. 900f has an unlocked bootloader. when you upgrade to stock lollipop through OTA or Kies (or odin) it already includes bootloader and modem. When you do it the way described in that reddit link you flash the lollipop firmware, modem and bootloader separately. Apparently that method of updating needs it to be done so.
Honestly I have Knox 0x1 so I never cared for those methods, btw if you live in Germany then there's no need to care about Knox. In EU we're allowed to flash whatever we want and the guarantee stays intact even if you have Knox 0x1
ps. yes =p

lingowistico said:
my bad, you did. 900f has an unlocked bootloader. when you upgrade to stock lollipop through OTA or Kies (or odin) it already includes bootloader and modem. When you do it the way described in that reddit link you flash the lollipop firmware, modem and bootloader separately. Apparently that method of updating needs it to be done so.
Honestly I have Knox 0x1 so I never cared for those methods, btw if you live in Germany then there's no need to care about Knox. In EU we're allowed to flash whatever we want and the guarantee stays intact even if you have Knox 0x1
ps. yes =p
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thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?

nwmn said:
thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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Honestly, I don't know. That reddit link I gave you, I haven't read the guide myself. I just skimmed though it to be sure it was real but I don't know the details of it. Yes all G900Fs have an unlocked bootloader. :good:

nwmn said:
thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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Do you mean ota stock firmware notification? If yes then you will have it if Knox is still 0x0 if Knox however is 0x1 you will no longer be able to update via ota.
If you want to upgrade from KitKat to lollipop you must wipe data from recovery to avoid any issues. It is also not recommended by me to use titanium backup to restore apps because some might not be compatible with lollipop yet or some of the app data made for KitKat may have a conflict with lollipop system, however lots of apps have compatibility with lollipop and there is a chance you will have no issues at all when using titanium backup. Even if I said I don't recommend restoring data after such a major upgrade I do recommend having a backup whether it's with titanium backup or nandroid etc because you're able to restore apps one by one and make sure that what you restore won't be problematic.
Edit - if you update with flashfire app, there is an option to keep root when flashing from rooted KitKat to lollipop and users have reported that that feature does work for them (I personally haven't tried it).
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Here's a version of the method on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...2nd-method-t2843044/post54719865#post54719865

Downgrade 6.0.1 to 4.4.2 or 5.1.1 ?

Hi Guys,
New to this device, but not new to Android... Read all over the web, various sites (esp this one) about this device and seeing mixed views/comments. Some saying its possible, others saying it will brick or flag the Knox.
Is it possible to downgrade this phone (G900F) currently on the latest 6.0.1 stock rom. But was wondering if I could try either official stock of 4.4.2 or 5.1.1 of this device.
Or due to this bootloader, is it likely to brick or even trip Knox?
Thanks, Lister

Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi Guys,
New to this device, but not new to Android... Read all over the web, various sites (esp this one) about this device and seeing mixed views/comments. Some saying its possible, others saying it will brick or flag the Knox.
Is it possible to downgrade this phone (G900F) currently on the latest 6.0.1 stock rom. But was wondering if I could try either official stock of 4.4.2 or 5.1.1 of this device.
Or due to this bootloader, is it likely to brick or even trip Knox?
Thanks, Lister
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Official stock ROMs shouldn't trip Knox because they are, ummm, official.
I think the G900F bootloader is unlocked.
Sent from my Samsung SM-G900I using XDA Labs

Why downgrade in the first place..... ? 6.0.1 is way better than previous FWs...

Hi @Dirty Flasher,
Yeah, that's what I thought... It's all stock, so all should be good... But I've read reports saying it will trip Knox as since a certain version of Marshmallow, the bootloader has been locked to only go with future firmwares and not allow downgrades. I assume to prevent people restoring to the older firmware (with bootloader) which was unlocked, that allowed rooting without tripping. But some say it will trip, others say it will not... I'm confused, and wondered if anyone has tried this, and what the outcome was... Don't want to trip Knox unnecessarily... if someone has already tried and tested it.
Dirty Flasher said:
Official stock ROMs shouldn't trip Knox because they are, ummm, official.
I think the G900F bootloader is unlocked.
Sent from my Samsung SM-G900I using XDA Labs
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Hi @Zlate2255,
I got this device when it was already one 6.0.1, so I missed seeing it go through the various stages. I would like to see how it used to look like and work. As there are some features that have been removed since, such Face Unlock and Iris tracking when viewing pages. Whilst the latter is still there burried away, it barely works, so should be removed completely. But would just be nice to see what it did look like.
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Why downgrade in the first place..... ? 6.0.1 is way better than previous FWs...
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Thanks, Lister

With my G900W8, I could downgrade to 4.4.2 with very-first firmware for G900W8 (NCG). Just try the earliest version of 4.4.2 and then upgrade back to 5.1.1

You can downgrade the g900f to every firmware (if unlocked) you want. On some s5 devices who have a locked bootloader like the at&t version there have been reported some problems.
Therefore, you shouldn't run into any problems while downgrading.
If you want some pro and cons to the firmwares:
Kitkat:
+ dark design (the touchwiz apps like contacts)
+ more battery friendly than marshmallow
- less security due to no security updates
- you might run into some minimal bugs, for example on wikipedia you sometimes have to reload the page to watch pictures (at least on mine)
- no app permissions can be removed (only with root and app ops)
Lollipop:
Honestly, I havent used this one that much, but here you have a white design with the different statusbar and pull down menu, better security (but not as good as on marshmallow) and the material design, but slightly worse battery time.
Marshmallow:
+ OTA Updates still available, best option for security
+/- White design, material design
+ new icons (but tbh not a real deal)
- less battery friendly (atleast for me even tho doze is enabled on marshmallow)
So yeah, choose what you want
And be sure that you have an unbranded device (check your csc) before downgrading/updating.

Hi @tm60405,
Wow, what a fantastic post... Thank you, exactly what I was looking for, and thanks for your reviews of each rom too.
- appreciate that, cheers
Quick question, how do I know if my Bootloader is unlocked??
Its a G900F (UK) was originally on the Three network, however I've flashed it to pure stock BTU, and to the EE network and back to stock BTU (all Marshmallow roms).
So where am I looking, or how do I know if the Bootloader is unlocked? Also, what am I looking for in the CSC info...??
Many thanks, Lister

Install the app called phone info from the play store.
Then, you swipe to the csc code and you can see your info and remember the csc you are on.
If it is BTU, you can install another firmware based on BTU without problems. But even if you don't have BTU, you can try installing BTU because it doesn't contain much bloatware. In the worst case, you just install the firmware with the csc you had before.
Then, follow the instructions on sammobile.com and there will be no problems during the installing process.
After downgrading, you might get a bootloop. Then, you have to factory reset your device, so get the data from the internal storage elsewhere BEFORE the installation.
And if the download takes too long, try another browser like opera, for me it takes around 1 hour only instead of 4-5 hours on chrome.
If you might have another problem while installing the firmware, say so.

TWRP For SM-928A or AT&T version

hello... sorry before if I ask the same question or there's a thread already talking about this...
I just bought this phone yesterday and unfortunately I got this version 928a...
seems like I cant find any guides for rooting this phone... (or not find hard enough) especially installing the TWRP...
is there anyway to root this phone? android without root its not android at all, thats what I thought...
oh yeah there's this option "OEM Unlock" in my developer option and seems like I can turn it on and off is it mean something?
thx before..

anyone?

You'll probably have more luck in the AT&T S6E+ subforum. I have the same phone and did some reading on rooting. A few of the people in the AT&T forum have root, but most don't. No custom ROMs either. The G928A differs from the International version because it requires untripped Knox to work properly, and rooting will trip Knox. It also requires A version stock firmware (international version firmware won't work). Don't know why it's like this, perhaps custom hardware/hardware drivers/security patches specfic to this model?
So me I'm just planning to upgrade from 5.1 to either 6.0 or 7.0 and call it a day.

voltscastillo said:
You'll probably have more luck in the AT&T S6E+ subforum. I have the same phone and did some reading on rooting. A few of the people in the AT&T forum have root, but most don't. No custom ROMs either. The G928A differs from the International version because it requires untripped Knox to work properly, and rooting will trip Knox. It also requires A version stock firmware (international version firmware won't work). Don't know why it's like this, perhaps custom hardware/hardware drivers/security patches specfic to this model?
So me I'm just planning to upgrade from 5.1 to either 6.0 or 7.0 and call it a day.
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thx for the reply..
can you give me the link, I need root for greenify.. cuz its work better with root...
and how do you update from marshmallow to nougat? do I need to watch out the base band version?

handi7a said:
thx for the reply..
can you give me the link, I need root for greenify.. cuz its work better with root...
and how do you update from marshmallow to nougat? do I need to watch out the base band version?
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I would assume that would be impossible because of a locked bootloader. Again, just assuming it has a locked bootloader. If you live in the States, I would recommend trading it for a G928T (T-Mobile). Unlocked bootloader for sure, and lots of ROMs have support for it.