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HTC One and Vanilla Android (5.0 (Keylime Pie))?

I had sworn off non-Google phones after a couple of Samsung experiences, but the One is just so well-designed, I can't resist it. It's really the first Android phone which can compete with the iPhone in hardware design.
Now my question is, what happens when Google rolls out Android 5.0? Would vanilla Android be available quickly for the unlocked 32Gb and the 64 Developer edition? Is there any reason why it may not happen, or it may be difficult to do? Would the non-standard button layout throw a wrench in the OS upgrade possibilities?

I dont think so
If you buy the developer edition you can install plane lemon pie on it as it has the bootloader unlocked or any kind of ROM you want. On the Unlucked one you will need to wait until HTC releases the update as it also comes with thei Sense 5.0 UI.:laugh:

HTC have been saying they will be working a lot harder to get the latest updates out to their phones. And you can see as well in the One series that they have delivered to an extent.
Plus as the HTC One is their flagship device for this year, they will be putting all of their attention on it

As I would agree to this, without source code and binaries for the device I.E> sensors, bt, wifi, processor from HTC the dev edition wont just = instant updates to latest and greatest. Its just nice to see them least offering it up.

They don't even have 4.2 on the One, so I am assuming it would take them a long time to get KLP on the One.
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sidthegreatest said:
They don't even have 4.2 on the One, so I am assuming it would take them a long time to get KLP on the One.
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There's a reason why they did not got for 4.2. Here's a quick snip from Anandtechs amazing review
HTC says it went with 4.1 for both stability and time to market reasons, which I think is reasonable considering some of the 4.2.x issues people have complained about, though 4.2.2 fixes most of it. At this point it would be awesome to have 4.2, but for a smartphone the only features I miss are the notification shade settings and perhaps photosphere.
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There's a reason why they did not got for 4.2. Here's a quick snip from Anandtechs amazing review
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Not to mention Lock screen widgets.
But my point is not whether they CAN out 4.2 on their device, but the fact that they did not.
Samsung has 4.2 on the S4, while the SIII also has a leaked ROM. So, I would say that KLP would come to the One in Q4 of this year at the earliest.
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doakills said:
As I would agree to this, without source code and binaries for the device I.E> sensors, bt, wifi, processor from HTC the dev edition wont just = instant updates to latest and greatest. Its just nice to see them least offering it up.
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What is HTC's history in terms of offering source code and binaries for their hardware? (I haven't had an HTC since the WM days
I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked, but now I am wondering if I jumped the gun and I should sit tight and wait for whatever the Next Nexus phone is? The only problem is, Google does not know how to drive good hardware design, and I really doubt the next Nexus will be as well designed or built.
For what it's worth, I love 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus, although it is getting to be a bit laggy with some apps. Nevertheless, I feel it is a bit more bug-free overall than 4.1.
If it doesn't look like HTC will release enough code to allow the One to be made vanilla Android and freely updated to the latest OS, i may actually cancel.

When the devs get the bootloaders unlocked flashing things will be no problem. It may take a while but it'll happen eventually.
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Does anyone have any estimates as to when or if we will see any cm10 or paranoid round here?
Also, as ive come over from a samsung, not a 100% sure how sense development has been on sense roms as they failed to port it to anything else, have they managed to mix it with aosp or anything else?
cheers

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When the devs get the bootloaders unlocked flashing things will be no problem. It may take a while but it'll happen eventually.
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I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.

snowblind2142 said:
Does anyone have any estimates as to when or if we will see any cm10 or paranoid round here?
Also, as ive come over from a samsung, not a 100% sure how sense development has been on sense roms as they failed to port it to anything else, have they managed to mix it with aosp or anything else?
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Atm im running aokp on my htc one-x
I can run pa or cm too if i wanted to and this device only has the htcdev unlock available.
Also sense from other devices can be ported but its a pita so dont expect to much on that side.
However there are also roms who strip htc sense entirly making it a treu aosp experience and diff ui's can be flashed( xperia and samsung ui have been ported to hox)
Obviously this doesnt mean its gonna happen at the one but i sure hope so
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romitkin said:
I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
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But bootloader unlock (which AFAIK is available for the 32gb unlocked version as well) does not mean that the rest of the hardware will be opened up to developers, right?
Ugh, I was hoping for a much more optimistic scenario.... I love the efforts the developers here pour into maintaing these sets when the hardware is not exposed and the manufacturer drags its feet on updates, but after having to deal with the constant ROM tinkering and numerous resulting issues with my old Samsing sets, I am not excited about the prospect of going through it again.
Also, I am wondering if the non-standard soft buttons will affect easy porting of 5.0 to the One?

Having aosp etc on the one would be a bit pointless. I like it. The ones standout features are design sound and camera.
Youd have two out of three running aosp etc. Every other HTC device running has a scrappy camera since they went to 8mp. It remains to be seen what the ones camera would be. If it's deal though you lose a lot. Okay 4.2 etc is sweet on the nexus range but there hardware was built around it
Fairplay is try it on the one..debateable whether it'd be worth it though
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MacGuy2006 said:
What is HTC's history in terms of offering source code and binaries for their hardware? (I haven't had an HTC since the WM days
I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked, but now I am wondering if I jumped the gun and I should sit tight and wait for whatever the Next Nexus phone is? The only problem is, Google does not know how to drive good hardware design, and I really doubt the next Nexus will be as well designed or built.
For what it's worth, I love 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus, although it is getting to be a bit laggy with some apps. Nevertheless, I feel it is a bit more bug-free overall than 4.1.
If it doesn't look like HTC will release enough code to allow the One to be made vanilla Android and freely updated to the latest OS, i may actually cancel.
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HTC sucks at updating the new source code. They wait months after Google has already released it.
EVO LTE

Enraged21 said:
HTC sucks at updating the new source code. They wait months after Google has already released it.
EVO LTE
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They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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romitkin said:
I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
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I meant s-off. Sorry..
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ste1164 said:
They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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I would hope so. But the fact that they are releasing their flagship with months old OS version is a little worrying.
I am not so broken up about 4.2, but 5 sounds like it will be a rather major update and if this thing doesn't get updated promptly, it will be a very disappointing acquisition for me.

arknailed7754 said:
Having aosp etc on the one would be a bit pointless. I like it. The ones standout features are design sound and camera.
Youd have two out of three running aosp etc. Every other HTC device running has a scrappy camera since they went to 8mp. It remains to be seen what the ones camera would be. If it's deal though you lose a lot. Okay 4.2 etc is sweet on the nexus range but there hardware was built around it
Fairplay is try it on the one..debateable whether it'd be worth it though
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Exactly. I can't believe there's already complaints about the time it will take HTC to update the phone to KLP. One of the main reasons people are flocking to this phone is the awesome job HTC did on the software features. If they slapped it together you could have the latest, but not the same experience. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

ste1164 said:
They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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How do you know this? I would love for this to be true but, given my experience with the One X, I find it hard to believe.

Can the ATT S4 be converted into a 100% Nexus S4?

If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
Thanks

richard371 said:
If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
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I think maybe it can be. If you look at the LG Optimus G you can convert it into a Nexus 4.

richard371 said:
If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
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I doubt you will be able to convert it into a device that receives updates from Google, because those updates are pushed based on your device's ID. The Device ID will always be a AT&T Galaxy S4.
However, that doesn't mean that the community won't create their own distros and OTA's that can be applied to any Galaxy S4 whenever Google pushes updates to their Galaxy S4.

I'm sure the day after the rom is released it will be available for us to try out
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Thanks guys. I am coming from an iPhone 5 which I prefer and will keep as my primary device. I love the S4 as it is full of features (gimmicks) and eye candy but is no match for the iPhone 5 in terms of robustness etc. Yes iOS has become stale but even at half the cpu power as the S4 it still feels faster and more solid hardware wise. Just purchased the nano to micro sim adapter for $2 so i will be swapping back and forth and enjoying the best of both devices.

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Thanks guys. I am coming from an iPhone 5 which I prefer and will keep as my primary device. I love the S4 as it is full of features (gimmicks) and eye candy but is no match for the iPhone 5 in terms of robustness etc. Yes iOS has become stale but even at half the cpu power as the S4 it still feels faster and more solid hardware wise. Just purchased the nano to micro sim adapter for $2 so i will be swapping back and forth and enjoying the best of both devices.
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I did that for a while and then just stayed with android. I liked iPhone but os was boring quick and biggest issue was trying to type on a small screen and use it felt weird quick as I was used to bigger screen and could never go back to iPhone again. This phone lags big time but with cm10 it will fly and the note 2 or HTC one flies also so you can't compare this crappy Samsung rom on sgs4 to android phones in general.
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We will get aosp (nexus software) as soon as the bootloader is unlocked...so we will probably have nexus software before the google edition is released
There are already custom aosp roms released for the phone that are working good...only thing holding back att users is the bootloader. But the fact they exist tells us that we will have a nexus like experience on our s4...idk why everyone thinks it relies on the google edition...because it doesn't. Nearly every phone here on xda has the ability to run aosp aka nexus software
The only benefit of the google edition is it will hopefully bring good source code allowing devs to fix bugs much more easily and incorporate the new sensors into the roms
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mg2195 said:
We will get aosp (nexus software) as soon as the bootloader is unlocked...so we will probably have nexus software before the google edition is released
There are already custom aosp roms released for the phone that are working good...only thing holding back att users is the bootloader. But the fact they exist tells us that we will have a nexus like experience on our s4...idk why everyone thinks it relies on the google edition...because it doesn't. Nearly every phone here on xda has the ability to run aosp aka nexus software
The only benefit of the google edition is it will hopefully bring good source code allowing devs to fix bugs much more easily and incorporate the new sensors into the roms
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let's hope the stock android version on the google gs4 is not the same stock android on nexus 4. because if it is, then there will be no gs4 sensor support in the google gs4.
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I think maybe it can be. If you look at the LG Optimus G you can convert it into a Nexus 4.
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the reason the lg optimus g was able to take nexus 4 stock android and use it is because 1.) the lg optimus g finally got upgraded to android 4.1.2 which gave it the same rmp/tz as android 4.2.2. 2.) they share the exact same hardware since they are both made by LG and the models copied each other. the same wont be able to be said for the gs4, so it will take alot of modifying. much more than it does for the lg optimus g to run nexus 4 roms.

Kit Kat, who's anxious for this?

I just recently got the note 3 and heard this upgrade might be out on the 28th. Been using jelly bean on my s3 and I personally can't wait for this on the note! Anyone have any note 3 specific hopes with this about to be released?
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I'm looking forward to possible sms integration in Hangouts. Hoping even more for Google Voice integration in Hangouts.
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Hate to be a debbie downer, but unless they've streamlined the upgrade process for phones, we won't be getting 4.4 on the 28th.

I'm very excited for this, this release will end up dictating whether or not I end up getting the note 3. I am here with my GNex and if the note 3 can end up getting 4.4 soon (via custom roms of course) fast ill end up with the note 3. This is all depending on verizon getting the new nexus of course.

I don't think kit kat will be all that significant based on leaked info but I'm still looking forward to it
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I would be surprised if we get the 4.4 update that fast. Verizon is always one of the last to get updates for Android. So don't hold your breath.

Well I hope it's just a whole new feel at the very least.
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Kit Kat will be released on the 28th... yeah... but then Samsung has to get hold of it and touch wiz the crap out of it... Then verizon has to test and approve... blah blah blah... i would be shocked to see 4.4 OTA on this device this year

b00mb00mchuck said:
Kit Kat will be released on the 28th... yeah... but then Samsung has to get hold of it and touch wiz the crap out of it... Then verizon has to test and approve... blah blah blah... i would be shocked to see 4.4 OTA on this device this year
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Dont forget having to shoe horn in 50lbs of bloat as well!

What are you guys smoking?
Verizon won't let us have KitKat until probably April of next year.
You're better off hoping the bootloader gets unlocked soon so we can put it in ourselves. That's the only way we'll get it any time relatively soon.

We will get KitKat when we have custom ROMs, long before Verizon's OTA.

We will get KitKat when "IF" we have custom ROMs, long before Verizon's OTA.

I'm interested in what Google has in store for us with Kit Kat but I think Android Jelly Bean 4.1 - 4.3 has been awesome. I'm so content with Android 4.3 on my Galaxy Note 3 that I just can't get overly excited.
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b00mb00mchuck said:
We will get KitKat when "IF" we have custom ROMs, long before Verizon's OTA.
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When. It will happen. It's just been a few days since release. Devs aren't happy with Samsung, so many don't want to mess with it, but either the devs working now will have a breakthrough or another will yawn and make a bootstrap within hours. Not sure if a bootloader unlock will come around without someone getting a leaked unlock key from some Samsung guy in China. It's not about being possible or not, it's about a skilled devs desire to spend time on it.
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Han Solo 1 said:
What are you guys smoking?
Verizon won't let us have KitKat until probably April of next year.
You're better off hoping the bootloader gets unlocked soon so we can put it in ourselves. That's the only way we'll get it any time relatively soon.
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And this is why I avoided this phone. The Note 3 is hands down the best phone right now but as soon as the software updates roll in from Google you start to think twice (and that's with a fully unlocked bootloader on the Note 2). With all the tweaks and software enhancements it's not an overnight job. By the time my Note 2 gets 4.3, kitkat 4.4 will be about a month or more old.

The bad part about Android is.. You compromise on the software and get the note 3 or you compromise on the hardware and get a nexus device.. no sd, usually poor battery, aging processors the list goes on. Except Google edition s4, HTC one of course
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Its the 28th
WHERES MY KIT KAT!!! :crying:

I'm hoping for a stock android experience to finally hit the note 3. Somewhat sick of touchwiz.

wrichards2009 said:
The bad part about Android is.. You compromise on the software and get the note 3 or you compromise on the hardware and get a nexus device.. no sd, usually poor battery, aging processors the list goes on. Except Google edition s4, HTC one of course
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Ageing processor? It's got the same as the Note 3.
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Well I, for one, am very anxious for the KitKat announcement specifically to see how the rumors play out in terms of Android becoming more modular and bypassing OEM and carrier update schedules. It's sounding like the stock launcher is going to end up in the Play Store, and I've also heard that the notification system could be separated from the Android framework allowing for 3rd party notification bars.
At that point, the only user-facing things left to the OEMs are the phone app and the settings (anything else I'm missing?). That makes me feel much better about my new 2-year contract with VZW.
Also, Hangouts SMS integration can't get here fast enough. Not pleased with Samsung's Messenger app.
-Chad

will G2 get custom 4.4 based roms?

right now I'm still torn between G2 and Nexus 5, while G2 clearly has a rather superior hardware I've been spoiled with the look from pure 4.4 experience also unfortunately the Nexus isn't available yet on my country.
but from what I've seen there is no 4.4 based rom for G2 too, the question is, will it happen? specifically though I really want the kitkat version of Paranoid Android, will it come to G2? or is it actually more sure will come faster to Nexus 5?

It will eventually. But no manufacturers will gets it as fast nexus devices. If on time updates and rom is your main concern then your choice is limited.
-LG G2

I'm torn about this too, interested in the G2's battery life but only if I can get AOSP very smoothly and with no fuss. I wonder how stable CM11 nightlies will be for the first few months.

xdp said:
I'm torn about this too, interested in the G2's battery life but only if I can get AOSP very smoothly and with no fuss. I wonder how stable CM11 nightlies will be for the first few months.
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yeah, gsmarena battery test on nexus 5 kill my enthusiasm with it, however if it still a looong way for G2 to get 4.4 based rom then I'll just get nexus.

I know that everyone says that Nexus devices get updates the soonest, and while that's completely true and valid, to me it doesn't feel that way. I usually wait for CM or AOKP to put out stable builds before I upgrade, and by then they've built for every device and my neighbor's cat. Heck, it's been two weeks since 4.4 came out, and so far the Nexus 5 and the Nexus 7 officially have it, while in the mod community, CM11 is already out for other devices in a useable form. So, certainly official support for Nexus devices is quickest, but practically all the devices in the mod community get updates pretty quick.
That being said, the Nexus 4 has no official 4.4, but we on LG G2 are going to get CM11 very soon.

is this phone really get the support for at least 2 years from LG or they will just leave G2 behind with only one/ two update provided like what they did on their flagship phone in the past like LG Optimus 2x

I'm pretty sure we'll get a working PA 4.0 (KitKat 4.4) pretty soon. Houston already has his version of PA 3.99 up and running for us and he was just made a member of the PA Team the other day. It's just a matter of time, guys, be patient. . Houston kicks ass, too!
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I'm pretty sure we'll get a working PA 4.0 (KitKat 4.4) pretty soon. Houston already has his version of PA 3.99 up and running for us and he was just made a member of the PA Team the other day. It's just a matter of time, guys, be patient. . Houston kicks ass, too!
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so do you think it's better to buy G2 than Nexus 5?

Problem for Canadians is there's almost no support at all for D803s. Huge drawback of so many variants of G2.

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Problem for Canadians is there's almost no support at all for D803s. Huge drawback of so many variants of G2.
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It's so true. I'm disheartened by the lack of availability for the d803, however don't posses the skills to do something about it. I've started down the long road of trying to learn for myself so I'm not just one of those people that sit idly by and complain... but like I said it's a long road and it feels like I'll probably own a G4 by the time if figure out how to bring ROMs over to the G2 lol

I was obsessing over getting the nexus 5 for as long as it was leaked it was coming out. Once it was confirmed it wasn't coming to Verizon I thought I would settle for the G2. Let me tell you that now I have had it for 2 weeks and tried every ROM out there so far. I can happily say I didn't settle at all. Great phone. Came from gnex. Roms are coming out. Not at nexus speed but they are out there. Waiting for pa 4.0 but I am rocking a ROM from the droid Razer forum not xda called vallidus by GZ ROMs. Lots of functions. Everything you could want. Build is 4.3.1 base. Absolutely stable.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/31612-romgzromsvalidus-13-vs980-431/
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so do you think it's better to buy G2 than Nexus 5?
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Seeing how they are so similar again, like N4 and LGOG were, I would buy the G2 for its added battery size alone. Also, Houston has the Canadian version and is currently hard at work on PA 4.0. Just be patient. :beer::thumbup:
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Seeing how they are so similar again, like N4 and LGOG were, I would buy the G2 for its added battery size alone. Also, Houston has the Canadian version and is currently hard at work on PA 4.0. Just be patient. :beer::thumbup:
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will it work on the international version of G2?

Hosers, eh?
Well, my take is that the Nexus is so similar to the G2 that we can't help but get lots of dev support (ie, so many of us who didn't want to wait for the Nexus and/or changed our minds at the last minute the same way a Chevy dealer puts a Corvette in the showroom to sell you a Malibu). We might not see as much as the G4 or the One, but Chrysler still sells a ton of cars even though they are not Ford or GM. I came from a Skyrocket which was just different enough from the S2 not to use the same roms, but close enough that it still has (unofficial) CM/PA/AOKP/PacMan support plus half a dozen hobbyist roms two years out.
Will we get "Official LG" Android 4.5 six minutes after the Nexus? No. Will I be stripping the factory rom and bloat off my phone the instant I get home from vacay (and off this stupid mac) and NEVER looking back? Absolutely.
And to the 803 guys and gals, I make no claims to be an expert by any means, but from the little reading I have done so far, the main difference between the models seems to be in the bootloader not the rom, so if that's the case you're bound to have someone up there willing to compile CM or whathaveyou for the 803... it just might not be "official."

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I'd say yes so you can have the best of both worlds. Not just a phone with only AOSP based roms.
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Honestly I bought the g2 with the intention of throwing vanilla on there the moment I got it. I wound up digging the stock ROM more than AOSP. Some awesome features and optimisation and 4.4 next month!
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ChattyMatty said:
I came from a Skyrocket which was just different enough from the S2 not to use the same roms, but close enough that it still has (unofficial) CM/PA/AOKP/PacMan support plus half a dozen hobbyist roms two years out.
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*off topic* CM and PAC are both official for the rocket, so is Carbon and Slim Bean. That community is awesome and I still find myself visiting it daily. Team chopsticks already have a pretty stable alpha 2 version of cm11 up for the ol' 727 and, you're right, there are a ton of hobbyists in that community that have brought just about every rom you could want.

I'm just worried about getting myself into a situation where AOSP ROMs aren't working out or have problems. What's the main diff between T-Mobile (D801), AT&T (D800), and international (D802)? Does international work on US LTE? Does the Loki patch and CM 10.2 absolutely work on the T-Mobile version?

People.. Quit worrying it will happen
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lg g2 has better hardware, to quote someone else...software changes, hardware if forever

Should I return my G Pad?

Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.

If she paid full price then my suggestion would be to return it and get the GPE version if you want to run stock android. You might want to discuss this option with her to see how she feels about it if you're worried about her feeling hurt.

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Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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In my galaxy tab 2 cyanogen works 100 times better than its stock android as it doesnt have all the useless bloatware and frees up ram and memory. Stock firmwarein gpad runs just fine, especially if you have other android devices or a lg televison as it comes with usefull apps that only lg delivers. I dont find a reason to return gpad as it's the best tablet at the moment.

tgmorris said:
If she paid full price then my suggestion would be to return it and get the GPE version if you want to run stock android. You might want to discuss this option with her to see how she feels about it if you're worried about her feeling hurt.
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The LG os is just ok. Not so bloated like TouchWiz roms and if you uninstall some bloat you just will be OK with it.
I prefer much the lg version instead of stock android because I have a smart tv (Samsung by the way) and miracast works flawless.
I don't like stock android much, the LG keyboard is awesome!
I tried paranoid android and other 4.4.2 ROM and cm and I can tell you that they all loose much against stock firmware.
Only to give you an idea my cleaned stock ROM as 24 k antutu points and other 3 aosp based are in range from 17 to 21k!
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katsika said:
In my galaxy tab 2 cyanogen works 100 times better than its stock android as it doesnt have all the useless bloatware and frees up ram and memory. Stock firmwarein gpad runs just fine, especially if you have other android devices or a lg televison as it comes with usefull apps that only lg delivers. I dont find a reason to return gpad as it's the best tablet at the moment.
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I've used CM on phones with mixed results. I'm just getting to the point in my life where I can't be f'ing with Android roms. I want it clean and working.

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I've used CM on phones with mixed results. I'm just getting to the point in my life where I can't be f'ing with Android roms. I want it clean and working.
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I'm the opinion that cm is good for old devices that are forgotten. I never get better working device nor with aosp or cm. You miss all ways something and to get a stable release you need a year. I've s2 and the good working cm ROM is from last year.
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testadeferro said:
The LG os is just ok. Not so bloated like TouchWiz roms and if you uninstall some bloat you just will be OK with it.
I prefer much the lg version instead of stock android because I have a smart tv (Samsung by the way) and miracast works flawless.
I don't like stock android much, the LG keyboard is awesome!
I tried paranoid android and other 4.4.2 ROM and cm and I can tell you that they all loose much against stock firmware.
Only to give you an idea my cleaned stock ROM as 24 k antutu points and other 3 aosp based are in range from 17 to 21k!
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I just got 26k using mahdi ROM.. Didn't bench on stock.
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I just discovered the LG G Pad like three minutes ago. It looks pretty good for some future plans I have with using a tablet as a car stereo interface. Damn good, actually.
Anyways, I have an AT&T Galaxy S4. As you may or may not know, there is also a Google Play Edition S4 out there. And naturally, the ROM for that phone was ported over to the Euro version of the S4 which we are able to flash on the AT&T S4 (with an AT&T custom kernel).
And the Google Play Edition ROM I ran was 99.99% stock and 100% rock solid. I would not hesitate for a second to flash that ROM again if I weren't a big fan of AOSP.
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
Google Play Edition:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=lg_g_pad&hl=en

CZ Eddie said:
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
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That's what I was hoping for but I might just get a Nexus 7.

CZ Eddie said:
I just discovered the LG G Pad like three minutes ago. It looks pretty good for some future plans I have with using a tablet as a car stereo interface. Damn good, actually.
Anyways, I have an AT&T Galaxy S4. As you may or may not know, there is also a Google Play Edition S4 out there. And naturally, the ROM for that phone was ported over to the Euro version of the S4 which we are able to flash on the AT&T S4 (with an AT&T custom kernel).
And the Google Play Edition ROM I ran was 99.99% stock and 100% rock solid. I would not hesitate for a second to flash that ROM again if I weren't a big fan of AOSP.
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
Google Play Edition:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=lg_g_pad&hl=en
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The s4 is not the Europe version but the international version gt 9505.
In Samsung devices is easier because you have open bootloaders.
And the matter that makes the possibility to convert is if there are many hardware and partition differences.
To tell you the true and going off topic the s4 as many problems with reboots and stability with the ge port.
I've Tryed myself 3 or 4 times and gone back to TouchWiz. Battery drains, reboots and much more. I think the issue was been kernel releated.
Cheers
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Vitamin_D said:
Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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Number one, just be happy with what you've got, you sound really pathetic. Number two, our custom ROMs are daily drivers and work better than LGs stock ROM. Number three, conversion to GPE is at a stand still, so it's impossible at the moment to get OTAs from anything but LG.

I'm a huge fan of CM. The nightlies may have minor bugs here or there but it generally makes a huge difference in performance to the phones I've installed it on. This is probably because its a newer version of Android - I installed CM7 on a Froyo phone and CM9 on a gingerbread phone. Even CM10 is better on a JB device. Much smoother with less lag and obviously stripped of bloatware.
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You could...punch her in the face and demand an iPad Air.

Reckoning said:
You could...punch her in the face and demand an iPad Air.
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That's not nice on any day especially on Christmas.

techrider6262 said:
That's not nice on any day especially on Christmas.
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My bad, I was in Walmart yesterday so I thought punching people over gifts was in the spirit of Christmas.

Reckoning said:
My bad, I was in Walmart yesterday so I thought punching people over gifts was in the spirit of Christmas.
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Besides I would do it for buying me a ipad

techrider6262 said:
Besides I would do it for buying me a ipad
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Now, now..WWJD? He'd jailbreak that mofo and send Steve Jobs to Perdition...

Vitamin_D said:
Well my wife went out and bought a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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Vitamin_D said:
I might just get a Nexus 7.
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If it's the difference in cost, Newegg has the Tablet for $299.99 Right Now... I was able to purchase my G-Pad on that event Saturday at BB for the cost of $279.00.. yes, it was a great deal.
I would think long and hard about going back to a 7" Tablet after owning an 8.3" Tablet.. And don't forget, you can Root the Tablet you have in a few minutes.. (It took me 2 Minutes) and maintain all the stability of Stock and Freeze or better yet, Uninstall all the apps you feel are Bloatware.. The Best of Both Worlds.. I'm running Mahdi right now and it's 100% stable and very smooth..

testadeferro said:
The s4 is not the Europe version but the international version gt 9505.
In Samsung devices is easier because you have open bootloaders.
And the matter that makes the possibility to convert is if there are many hardware and partition differences.
To tell you the true and going off topic the s4 as many problems with reboots and stability with the ge port.
I've Tryed myself 3 or 4 times and gone back to TouchWiz. Battery drains, reboots and much more. I think the issue was been kernel releated.
Cheers
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not all GS4's are equal as the att s4 is also in the same place as the g pad, it needs to be lokified as well, and actually the gpe port was not as bad (at least on the att cooked version) as you make it out to be, myself going to beanstalk with it being stable (not rock stable) but most of the time stable
otherwise like the dev mention it should be something silly being the reason why not everything works on the gpe, looking over the gpe (as it doesn't have the gpu problems all the other roms have) it does have a different file structure, but it shouldn't be impossible to bring it up
RaiderWill said:
If it's the difference in cost, Newegg has the Tablet for $299.99 Right Now... I was able to purchase my G-Pad on that event Saturday at BB for the cost of $279.00.. yes, it was a great deal.. enough so that I turned in my Nexus 7 for the G-Pad 8.3.
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sweet got mine for about 275 shipped

darkassain said:
sweet got mine for about 275 shipped
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Yeah.. Newegg had them at the time for $249.99 shipped.. but I wanted to pay the $30.00 extra for 2 reasons.. 1) If anything was not right, I could just walk it in to BestBuy the same day and get a replacement.. 2) The return window was over 30 days.. I purchased the 1st week of December and have until January 15th to return/replace it if need be or the Mysterious Nexus 10 2014 should pop up in that time frame and be something REALLY special..
For the moment.. This is the Hottest Ticket on the Planet.