Can the ATT S4 be converted into a 100% Nexus S4? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
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richard371 said:
If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
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I think maybe it can be. If you look at the LG Optimus G you can convert it into a Nexus 4.

richard371 said:
If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
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I doubt you will be able to convert it into a device that receives updates from Google, because those updates are pushed based on your device's ID. The Device ID will always be a AT&T Galaxy S4.
However, that doesn't mean that the community won't create their own distros and OTA's that can be applied to any Galaxy S4 whenever Google pushes updates to their Galaxy S4.

I'm sure the day after the rom is released it will be available for us to try out
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Thanks guys. I am coming from an iPhone 5 which I prefer and will keep as my primary device. I love the S4 as it is full of features (gimmicks) and eye candy but is no match for the iPhone 5 in terms of robustness etc. Yes iOS has become stale but even at half the cpu power as the S4 it still feels faster and more solid hardware wise. Just purchased the nano to micro sim adapter for $2 so i will be swapping back and forth and enjoying the best of both devices.

richard371 said:
Thanks guys. I am coming from an iPhone 5 which I prefer and will keep as my primary device. I love the S4 as it is full of features (gimmicks) and eye candy but is no match for the iPhone 5 in terms of robustness etc. Yes iOS has become stale but even at half the cpu power as the S4 it still feels faster and more solid hardware wise. Just purchased the nano to micro sim adapter for $2 so i will be swapping back and forth and enjoying the best of both devices.
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I did that for a while and then just stayed with android. I liked iPhone but os was boring quick and biggest issue was trying to type on a small screen and use it felt weird quick as I was used to bigger screen and could never go back to iPhone again. This phone lags big time but with cm10 it will fly and the note 2 or HTC one flies also so you can't compare this crappy Samsung rom on sgs4 to android phones in general.
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We will get aosp (nexus software) as soon as the bootloader is unlocked...so we will probably have nexus software before the google edition is released
There are already custom aosp roms released for the phone that are working good...only thing holding back att users is the bootloader. But the fact they exist tells us that we will have a nexus like experience on our s4...idk why everyone thinks it relies on the google edition...because it doesn't. Nearly every phone here on xda has the ability to run aosp aka nexus software
The only benefit of the google edition is it will hopefully bring good source code allowing devs to fix bugs much more easily and incorporate the new sensors into the roms
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mg2195 said:
We will get aosp (nexus software) as soon as the bootloader is unlocked...so we will probably have nexus software before the google edition is released
There are already custom aosp roms released for the phone that are working good...only thing holding back att users is the bootloader. But the fact they exist tells us that we will have a nexus like experience on our s4...idk why everyone thinks it relies on the google edition...because it doesn't. Nearly every phone here on xda has the ability to run aosp aka nexus software
The only benefit of the google edition is it will hopefully bring good source code allowing devs to fix bugs much more easily and incorporate the new sensors into the roms
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let's hope the stock android version on the google gs4 is not the same stock android on nexus 4. because if it is, then there will be no gs4 sensor support in the google gs4.
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MLIGN said:
I think maybe it can be. If you look at the LG Optimus G you can convert it into a Nexus 4.
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the reason the lg optimus g was able to take nexus 4 stock android and use it is because 1.) the lg optimus g finally got upgraded to android 4.1.2 which gave it the same rmp/tz as android 4.2.2. 2.) they share the exact same hardware since they are both made by LG and the models copied each other. the same wont be able to be said for the gs4, so it will take alot of modifying. much more than it does for the lg optimus g to run nexus 4 roms.

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Whats so special on Nexus 4 updates?

So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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zakazak said:
So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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You could install whatever ROM on your Desire, but there is always the chance that something that doesn't work quite right; like BT not working, or WiFi broken or some other odds and end.
One thing I learned from owning Nexus's in the past is that many times you'll see that everything is 100% working more often than not. And that makes it worth it to me.
Never had any probs with Android Revolution HD or Cyanogenmod
I don't think it's easy to understand how good a Nexus is until you use one.
That is a reply I would expect from some apple fanboy
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Never had any probs with Android Revolution HD or Cyanogenmod
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But the Desire was a more "hacker friendly" device than others... follow the woes of getting CM9 (and 10) on the Galaxy S2 (I9100) or follow the drama that is the One X (AT&T.... root on the newest software version took forever; there is still no official bootloader unlock from HTC). The One X+ (on AT&T) might be the same... no ability to root or official unlocking of the bootloader for quite a while. The Verizon SGS 3 had its bootloader locked by Verizon (brilliant minds were able to bypass this, however..).
the moral of the story? the Nexus devices are able to have 1). quicker software updates because the carrier and phone manufacturer aren't involved and 2) can be rooted and bootloader unlocked right out of the box, ready to flash that custom rom that you always wanted.
that's not to say you can't have CM10 or any other custom rom on a phone that's not a Nexus, but anymore, restrictions and the refusal to release some bits of code, drivers, etc. from manufacturers can keep custom roms (at least ones built from AOSP) from functioning 100% on some devices (again, see I9100 development).
The nexus line gets the update on day 1.
Look how long it took to get cm 9 onto the contemporaries of the galaxy Nexus (gs2,g2x,sensation,etc...)
If you don't mind waiting 2-3 months, go for one of the other phones.
I've owned all of the above... And I'll never buy a non nexus again.
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I got a gs3 now and i am waiting for my gn4 to come soon.i doubt it will be anything special and to be honest i think it will lack many features sammy touchwiz roms offered.
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That is a reply I would expect from some apple fanboy
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It's good that I didn't waste my time explaining to someone like you then.
lazarat said:
I got a gs3 now and i am waiting for my gn4 to come soon.i doubt it will be anything special and to be honest i think it will lack many features sammy touchwiz roms offered.
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Why are you even buying the N4 then?
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zakazak said:
So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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Depending on where you live, the N4 is the least expensive. So more money in your pocket.
I've used nearly every single Android phone T-Mobile has to offer including the HD2 (winmo 6.5) and as far as I can tell, imo... no device has ever ran aosp or cm as smooth and flawless as the Nexus devices I've owned. I've always has the least amount of problems with a Nexus device.
Also, I hate waiting months for updates, I prefer to have my phone updated with the latest software when it's released. If you never owned a Nexus before, I recommend getting one now, it's the best time and this is definitely the best Nexus of them all...obviously since it's newest, but you get my point.
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock.
While Nexus updates are awesome, keep in mind that Google has a pattern of discontinuing updates for its Nexus phones once they are two years old. Examples: Nexus One didn't get ICS (2 years after release) and Nexus S didn't get Jelly Bean 4.2 (again, 2 years after release). Galaxy Nexus is next in line.. I doubt it has anything to do with whether or not the hardware can support the new OS. Seems like it's just a rule they follow.
tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
zakazak said:
I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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You would still indirectly profit due to the updates being 1) instant, rather than having to rely on leaks until the "official" oem release, 2) open; for example, samsung not releasing the exynos 4 sources led to cm10 being very buggy
zakazak said:
tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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IIRC, you would not get OTA updates. But I'm currently on a Verizon GNex, so I don't think I've ever witnessed it asking me about a software update.
bttfpromo said:
IIRC, you would not get OTA updates. But I'm currently on a Verizon GNex, so I don't think I've ever witnessed it asking me about a software update.
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Could anyone confirm that? I would really want to root the phone.. and if that means I would have the same "update troubles" as with any other rooted/custom room device, then this would be a big minus point
zakazak said:
tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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As far as I know you will get OTA if rooted as long as you have stock rom and recovery, but I don't know for sure

Nexus 5 ROM on G2?

Does anybody know if it is possible to flash Nexus 5 ROMs on the G2? I am considering them both but the G2 32 GB costs the same as Nexus 5 16 GB in Norway.
Mkvarner said:
Does anybody know if it is possible to flash Nexus 5 ROMs on the G2? I am considering them both but the G2 32 GB costs the same as Nexus 5 16 GB in Norway.
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Yestou canflash, just make backup 1st
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Yestou canflash, just make backup 1st
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You can't just flash another device's ROM, it is specific to your model.
That being said, expect to see a stock KitKat ROM for the G2 fairly soon.
Strange that the Nexus is so expensive there, the G2 is a clearly superior phone from a hardware perspective, so I'd get the G2 for sure.
monkeyhatchet said:
You can't just flash another device's ROM, it is specific to your model.
That being said, expect to see a stock KitKat ROM for the G2 fairly soon.
Strange that the Nexus is so expensive there, the G2 is a clearly superior phone from a hardware perspective, so I'd get the G2 for sure.
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In sweden it will launch at 699$.
Happy, i choose the g2 a few weeks ago
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Yestou canflash, just make backup 1st
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the day will come this is possible,same rom on different hardwares. However not yet so dont advice stuff you dont know about...
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monkeyhatchet said:
You can't just flash another device's ROM, it is specific to your model.
That being said, expect to see a stock KitKat ROM for the G2 fairly soon.
Strange that the Nexus is so expensive there, the G2 is a clearly superior phone from a hardware perspective, so I'd get the G2 for sure.
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The reason I asked is because of this thread, would something like this be possible on the G2?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099784
I think I'll go with the G2 because of the larger battery and the fact that I won't feel robbed because I'm buying an overpriced Nexus 5. But I also want the Nexus 5 because it's an Nexus...
Mkvarner said:
The reason I asked is because of this thread, would something like this be possible on the G2?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099784
I think I'll go with the G2 because of the larger battery and the fact that I won't feel robbed because I'm buying an overpriced Nexus 5. But I also want the Nexus 5 because it's an Nexus...
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Its simple, the G2 is highly likely to get kitkat roms very soon. So no debate in my opinion unless you lrefer the design of the nexus.
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He is asking this because he likes hardware of G2 and UI of nexus, so even when G2 will get Kit Kat, it will still be skinned and nothing different.
The ideal thing is for LG to release optional Google edition Nexus Rom for G2
Second ideal thing is, someone port Nexus Kit Kat for G2.
But this time, i don't find any reason to root, or change rom around of my G2, if things Ok with my phone, i know by saying that i don't belong to here, but, changing ROM was fine for me when i had Xperia x10 Mini and i had to install Android Jelly bean on it. Why not? for look and feel? i prefer dark menu over white menu or settings for G2.
Nexus 5 Launcher is good for it, but is it better than Nova? when Nova can mimic Nexus 5 launcher by increasing icon size to 120%.
barondebxl said:
Its simple, the G2 is highly likely to get kitkat roms very soon. So no debate in my opinion unless you lrefer the design of the nexus.
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Just curious...why do you think this? I'm not saying the opposite, just I'm not aware of any evidence supporting what you say.
I also came from a GNex recently and I'm a bit let down by the slow/minimal development for this device. Even now, there are only a handful of 4.3 roms available, and these are mostly unofficial ports. Thankfully my beloved SlimBean is one of them and it works great on my d801.
However my only experience with a smartphone was the GNex and I guess it spoiled me re: dev activity. Do we simply need to wait for more 4.3 and 4.4 roms to come? When will the official releases arrive, like AOKP that has been rumored for quite a while now?
I was hoping that since the G2 was essentially a Nexus 5 that there would be portability between ROMs. I guess it's still early in the game and we should see what unfolds over the coming weeks.
jackbane said:
Just curious...why do you think this? I'm not saying the opposite, just I'm not aware of any evidence supporting what you say.
I also came from a GNex recently and I'm a bit let down by the slow/minimal development for this device. Even now, there are only a handful of 4.3 roms available, and these are mostly unofficial ports. Thankfully my beloved SlimBean is one of them and it works great on my d801.
However my only experience with a smartphone was the GNex and I guess it spoiled me re: dev activity. Do we simply need to wait for more 4.3 and 4.4 roms to come? When will the official releases arrive, like AOKP that has been rumored for quite a while now?
I was hoping that since the G2 was essentially a Nexus 5 that there would be portability between ROMs. I guess it's still early in the game and we should see what unfolds over the coming weeks.
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Highly likely because its the same manufacturer and both phone share pretty much the same identical hardware.
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Nexus 5 firmware on lg g2 verizon?
barondebxl said:
Highly likely because its the same manufacturer and both phone share pretty much the same identical hardware.
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Has anyone tried this or accomplished this? I am really interested in seeing if it works.
I don't think it would be possible nexus 5 has an unlockable boot loader unless your wanting to go with Verizon the nexus 5 is the device to buy because of it coming with stock android and not having to void your warranty to get stock android
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That sux. :/ thanks for the reply. I guess back to CyanogenMod.
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[Poll/Opinion] Who's still running a GPE device/or converted?

Since the release of GPE Devices, people thought that things would change. I am not sure that the devices sold like hotcakes, but I do know some people did buy them. With their release also came the possibility to fully convert your Sense-based HTC One to a fully stock GPE stock android device. Thanks to @graffixnyc for his thread. Please ask there for questions on how to do that.
Since the other GPE threads got closed down, I'd like to know who has a GPE device/or converted and maybe why you are running with the device or converted? This thread is also open to speculation, theories, and off topic thoughts in anticipation of 4.4 OTA.
While I don't encourage flaming, and google-bashing. I do want this specific thread to be to throw out those ideas about what you think google's plan for GPE devices is and how this will change now that Moto is getting some limelight?
I am currently running a Tmobile USA branded HTC one that I have s-off and fully converted to GPE when 4.4 was announced with the n5. I am still waiting patiently for the OTA and just curious as to why Google is holding on to it when Moto X is getting theirs and has no issues, as well as N4 and other nexus devices.
Same story for me. T-Mobile converted to GPe to give KitKat a try since my Nexus 4 screen is broken. At this point I'm expecting the Developer Edition to be on 4.4 before the GPe so I'll probably be converting back to Dev Edition next week.
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PikkonX said:
Same story for me. T-Mobile converted to GPe to give KitKat a try since my Nexus 4 screen is broken. At this point I'm expecting the Developer Edition to be on 4.4 before the GPe so I'll probably be converting back to Dev Edition next week.
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I've read a few people are going that same route also. While it sounds tempting, I'd rather just keep waiting. I have little time anymore to keep switching back and forth. If it does get delayed past January (seems crazy it would) , I may think about it.
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To me converting a Sense version 5 or 5.5 to GPE is taking 2 steps backwards. You have in essence turned a Porsche into a VW. I have a HP Touchpad that runs Cyanogen 10.2 and it's just plain and ugly, functional yes but with the stock launcher it's just too plain. My Wife has an HTC First that has the Facebook Home shut off so it's plain android and again it's functional but nothing special. I've had my One since Release and theirs just no way I would give up all the features that HTC has put into the Sense Experience (minus the AT&T Bloat ) I have run CleanRom, ARHD, and now InsertCoin and this is by far the Greatest Phone I have ever owned. Rock On HTC !!
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To me converting a Sense version 5 or 5.5 to GPE is taking 2 steps backwards. You have in essence turned a Porsche into a VW. I have a HP Touchpad that runs Cyanogen 10.2 and it's just plain and ugly, functional yes but with the stock launcher it's just too plain. My Wife has an HTC First that has the Facebook Home shut off so it's plain android and again it's functional but nothing special. I've had my One since Release and theirs just no way I would give up all the features that HTC has put into the Sense Experience (minus the AT&T Bloat ) I have run CleanRom, ARHD, and now InsertCoin and this is by far the Greatest Phone I have ever owned. Rock On HTC !!
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That's why I love this phone so much. I loved sensed 5 when I got it. I converted then I changed back because I missed the features. Once Tmobile finally rolled out the 4.3 update I realized that it didn't make a difference. I had the power to get what I wanted out of the phone . so I fully converted when I saw htc had released their update schedule. In hindsight I could have waited until it was officially out. I guess I got duped by the 15 day delivery period. Still htc has some balls these days trying to climb to the top.
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I converted to GPE a couple of days ago but i'm now back on sense. I used to be one of those who flashed aosp roms as soon as i got a new phone but the table has turned.... The Htc One with sense 5 is awesome. Everything is super smooth out of the box and i mean phone and software I will convert to DE next week for the sense kit kat update A big :good: to HTC for the work they done on Sense 5...keep it up.
As soon as I got my SaskTel (BM__01) phone I converted it to GPE and haven't looked back since. I found sense too dull looking. I'm currently on the latest 4.3 with the google experience launcher and it's perfect.
Originally my plan was to run CM 10.2 but I never got around to installing it. I've been following development for a long time and it seems to be going down the same road as the galaxy s2 did. Little annoying problems that will never be fixed.
So no one here has been running a real gpe phone?
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So no one here has been running a real gpe phone?
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I have a 'real' GPE phone, but I converted to Dev Edition because this phone was awful for me with AOSP.
I have been rocking GPE for a couple weeks because I thought the 4.4 OTA was about to drop and wanted to try it. I will convert back to Dev Edition in an instant if 4.4 drops for it though.
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I am not able to run a ge Rom... It messes up my lte no matter if I flash firmwares or anything. (Tmo btw) on stock firmware I get excellent reception as if I flash ge &firmware I get barely a line of reception and I'm stuck with almost edge speeds until it decides to go down to hspa+ so for me until I find out why, I'm stuck with sense. I did run a ge Rom for a day and besides the network problems, is awesome, I love it.
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Though GE was good the out of box sound experience was bad compared to Sense.
And since it seams to take time untill Google pushes KitKat i switched back to Sense.
HTC One | Viper 3.1
Can an at&t be converted the developers edition?
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I converted mainly for the fast updates (f ewe Google BTW). My plan was to run stock as long as they pushed them out then consider a custom ROM once those dried up.
I've been running gpe about 2 months and love it. Not really missing sense asides camera which for me isn't a deal breaker anyway.
I run a custom launcher and use Tasker to make functional tweaks. Happy with what I've got at the moment but Google are dulling the experience at the moment.
Anyone got a link to a DE conversion thread? If HTC land 4.4 on DE before GPE it may become an option.
BTW HTC make that happen and make Google look like real clowns. Plus you can stick your Motto X.
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So no one here has been running a real gpe phone?
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Running a stock 'real' unmolested One GPE and very happy.
I previously had a work supplied One, with Sense. While I do not dislike Sense, I find little use for most of it's features.
i'm running a real GPE one and proud of it. patiently waiting for kitkat as well. did it bother me the ota isnt pushed out yet?? yes but to say the least im happy its still gunna get the update..i for one would rather wait a few to have a good solid build rather than a buggy one..reguardless of what htc did or say..im just happy its getting updated. remember "nexus like" experience this isnt a nexus so of course its gunna lag behind with updates..
truth be told i mainly purchased this device for 2 reasons STOCK ANDROID and REMARKABLE HTC BUILD QUALITY.
evryone can get mad at google or htc and whine about it but thats not going to help push it out faster..also i've been noticing a handful of people dropping this phone real or converted just because the moto x has kitkat..and moviing on to that.
i came from a nexus 4 and honestly this phone runs circles around the nexus perfect size weight build quality and stock android.
" @LlabTooFeR One Google Edition will get 4.4 update based on latest build KRT16S"
This might be the reason why 4.4 isn't out yet.
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Update back in HTC's hands then? If it is they are keeping that quiet.
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iKarido said:
" @LlabTooFeR One Google Edition will get 4.4 update based on latest build KRT16S"
This might be the reason why 4.4 isn't out yet.
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That's great. I was wondering if that was the reason. I'm liking the comments on here and I wonder what the future for gpe will hold. Seems like moto x came back from the grave.
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I'm still using a real GPe. I bought this after selling my att HTC One before the conversion process was made so available.
Liked sense, but didn't need it. Prefer the stock android experience and quick update without flashing. Although that seems to be a problem this time around.
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Should I return my G Pad?

Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
If she paid full price then my suggestion would be to return it and get the GPE version if you want to run stock android. You might want to discuss this option with her to see how she feels about it if you're worried about her feeling hurt.
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Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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In my galaxy tab 2 cyanogen works 100 times better than its stock android as it doesnt have all the useless bloatware and frees up ram and memory. Stock firmwarein gpad runs just fine, especially if you have other android devices or a lg televison as it comes with usefull apps that only lg delivers. I dont find a reason to return gpad as it's the best tablet at the moment.
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If she paid full price then my suggestion would be to return it and get the GPE version if you want to run stock android. You might want to discuss this option with her to see how she feels about it if you're worried about her feeling hurt.
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The LG os is just ok. Not so bloated like TouchWiz roms and if you uninstall some bloat you just will be OK with it.
I prefer much the lg version instead of stock android because I have a smart tv (Samsung by the way) and miracast works flawless.
I don't like stock android much, the LG keyboard is awesome!
I tried paranoid android and other 4.4.2 ROM and cm and I can tell you that they all loose much against stock firmware.
Only to give you an idea my cleaned stock ROM as 24 k antutu points and other 3 aosp based are in range from 17 to 21k!
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In my galaxy tab 2 cyanogen works 100 times better than its stock android as it doesnt have all the useless bloatware and frees up ram and memory. Stock firmwarein gpad runs just fine, especially if you have other android devices or a lg televison as it comes with usefull apps that only lg delivers. I dont find a reason to return gpad as it's the best tablet at the moment.
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I've used CM on phones with mixed results. I'm just getting to the point in my life where I can't be f'ing with Android roms. I want it clean and working.
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I've used CM on phones with mixed results. I'm just getting to the point in my life where I can't be f'ing with Android roms. I want it clean and working.
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I'm the opinion that cm is good for old devices that are forgotten. I never get better working device nor with aosp or cm. You miss all ways something and to get a stable release you need a year. I've s2 and the good working cm ROM is from last year.
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The LG os is just ok. Not so bloated like TouchWiz roms and if you uninstall some bloat you just will be OK with it.
I prefer much the lg version instead of stock android because I have a smart tv (Samsung by the way) and miracast works flawless.
I don't like stock android much, the LG keyboard is awesome!
I tried paranoid android and other 4.4.2 ROM and cm and I can tell you that they all loose much against stock firmware.
Only to give you an idea my cleaned stock ROM as 24 k antutu points and other 3 aosp based are in range from 17 to 21k!
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I just got 26k using mahdi ROM.. Didn't bench on stock.
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I just discovered the LG G Pad like three minutes ago. It looks pretty good for some future plans I have with using a tablet as a car stereo interface. Damn good, actually.
Anyways, I have an AT&T Galaxy S4. As you may or may not know, there is also a Google Play Edition S4 out there. And naturally, the ROM for that phone was ported over to the Euro version of the S4 which we are able to flash on the AT&T S4 (with an AT&T custom kernel).
And the Google Play Edition ROM I ran was 99.99% stock and 100% rock solid. I would not hesitate for a second to flash that ROM again if I weren't a big fan of AOSP.
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
Google Play Edition:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=lg_g_pad&hl=en
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So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
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That's what I was hoping for but I might just get a Nexus 7.
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I just discovered the LG G Pad like three minutes ago. It looks pretty good for some future plans I have with using a tablet as a car stereo interface. Damn good, actually.
Anyways, I have an AT&T Galaxy S4. As you may or may not know, there is also a Google Play Edition S4 out there. And naturally, the ROM for that phone was ported over to the Euro version of the S4 which we are able to flash on the AT&T S4 (with an AT&T custom kernel).
And the Google Play Edition ROM I ran was 99.99% stock and 100% rock solid. I would not hesitate for a second to flash that ROM again if I weren't a big fan of AOSP.
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
Google Play Edition:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=lg_g_pad&hl=en
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The s4 is not the Europe version but the international version gt 9505.
In Samsung devices is easier because you have open bootloaders.
And the matter that makes the possibility to convert is if there are many hardware and partition differences.
To tell you the true and going off topic the s4 as many problems with reboots and stability with the ge port.
I've Tryed myself 3 or 4 times and gone back to TouchWiz. Battery drains, reboots and much more. I think the issue was been kernel releated.
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Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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Number one, just be happy with what you've got, you sound really pathetic. Number two, our custom ROMs are daily drivers and work better than LGs stock ROM. Number three, conversion to GPE is at a stand still, so it's impossible at the moment to get OTAs from anything but LG.
I'm a huge fan of CM. The nightlies may have minor bugs here or there but it generally makes a huge difference in performance to the phones I've installed it on. This is probably because its a newer version of Android - I installed CM7 on a Froyo phone and CM9 on a gingerbread phone. Even CM10 is better on a JB device. Much smoother with less lag and obviously stripped of bloatware.
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You could...punch her in the face and demand an iPad Air.
Reckoning said:
You could...punch her in the face and demand an iPad Air.
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That's not nice on any day especially on Christmas.
techrider6262 said:
That's not nice on any day especially on Christmas.
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My bad, I was in Walmart yesterday so I thought punching people over gifts was in the spirit of Christmas.
Reckoning said:
My bad, I was in Walmart yesterday so I thought punching people over gifts was in the spirit of Christmas.
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Besides I would do it for buying me a ipad
techrider6262 said:
Besides I would do it for buying me a ipad
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Now, now..WWJD? He'd jailbreak that mofo and send Steve Jobs to Perdition...
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Well my wife went out and bought a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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I might just get a Nexus 7.
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If it's the difference in cost, Newegg has the Tablet for $299.99 Right Now... I was able to purchase my G-Pad on that event Saturday at BB for the cost of $279.00.. yes, it was a great deal.
I would think long and hard about going back to a 7" Tablet after owning an 8.3" Tablet.. And don't forget, you can Root the Tablet you have in a few minutes.. (It took me 2 Minutes) and maintain all the stability of Stock and Freeze or better yet, Uninstall all the apps you feel are Bloatware.. The Best of Both Worlds.. I'm running Mahdi right now and it's 100% stable and very smooth..
testadeferro said:
The s4 is not the Europe version but the international version gt 9505.
In Samsung devices is easier because you have open bootloaders.
And the matter that makes the possibility to convert is if there are many hardware and partition differences.
To tell you the true and going off topic the s4 as many problems with reboots and stability with the ge port.
I've Tryed myself 3 or 4 times and gone back to TouchWiz. Battery drains, reboots and much more. I think the issue was been kernel releated.
Cheers
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not all GS4's are equal as the att s4 is also in the same place as the g pad, it needs to be lokified as well, and actually the gpe port was not as bad (at least on the att cooked version) as you make it out to be, myself going to beanstalk with it being stable (not rock stable) but most of the time stable
otherwise like the dev mention it should be something silly being the reason why not everything works on the gpe, looking over the gpe (as it doesn't have the gpu problems all the other roms have) it does have a different file structure, but it shouldn't be impossible to bring it up
RaiderWill said:
If it's the difference in cost, Newegg has the Tablet for $299.99 Right Now... I was able to purchase my G-Pad on that event Saturday at BB for the cost of $279.00.. yes, it was a great deal.. enough so that I turned in my Nexus 7 for the G-Pad 8.3.
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sweet got mine for about 275 shipped
darkassain said:
sweet got mine for about 275 shipped
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Yeah.. Newegg had them at the time for $249.99 shipped.. but I wanted to pay the $30.00 extra for 2 reasons.. 1) If anything was not right, I could just walk it in to BestBuy the same day and get a replacement.. 2) The return window was over 30 days.. I purchased the 1st week of December and have until January 15th to return/replace it if need be or the Mysterious Nexus 10 2014 should pop up in that time frame and be something REALLY special..
For the moment.. This is the Hottest Ticket on the Planet.

Lollipop

So, as everybody in the android world knows, the nexus 6 and 9 were announced along with 5.0 (Lollipop). The nexus 9 looks like a promising tablet and with stock Lollipop right out of the box (of course! It's a nexus) it should cause a few of us to pull out our wallets. A lot of gpad owners are probably feeling a bit envious, epecially if you just recently purchased it and are afraid it wont get any Lollipop treatment; However, I wouldn't get too jealous.
With the announcement that the nexus 4, 5, and 7 would get the update came another small detail. All google play edition devices would receive the update as well. As far as I know, this means GPE available in the play store currently AND in the past (gpad!).
The gpad GPE is certainly a great device and deserves 5.0. Here's to hoping it stays alive.
Plus it shouldn't be too hard to port over the GPE rom to the regular gpad as well. I'm fairly optimistic about this, but what do you guys think?
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carrman17 said:
So, as everybody in the android world knows, the nexus 6 and 9 were announced along with 5.0 (Lollipop). The nexus 9 looks like a promising tablet and with stock Lollipop right out of the box (of course! It's a nexus) it should cause a few of us to pull out our wallets. A lot of gpad owners are probably feeling a bit envious, epecially if you just recently purchased it and are afraid it wont get any Lollipop treatment; However, I wouldn't get too jealous.
With the announcement that the nexus 4, 5, and 7 would get the update came another small detail. All google play edition devices would receive the update as well. As far as I know, this means GPE available in the play store currently AND in the past (gpad!).
The gpad GPE is certainly a great device and deserves 5.0. Here's to hoping it stays alive.
Plus it shouldn't be too hard to port over the GPE rom to the regular gpad as well. I'm fairly optimistic about this, but what do you guys think?
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Actually its impossible to port the GPE rom as KitKat was never successfully done. Best bet is just waiting for the Developers to produce a great rom. Very satisfied with my g pad. Apart from pressure from consumerism why would I want a nexus 9. What can it do that the g pad can't??????
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matt1500 said:
Actually its impossible to port the GPE rom as KitKat was never successfully done. Best bet is just waiting for the Developers to produce a great rom. Very satisfied with my g pad. Apart from pressure from consumerism why would I want a nexus 9. What can it do that the g pad can't??????
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easily updated by Google directly, excellent front facing speakers, HTC's superior display technology.....
gunnyman said:
easily updated by Google directly, excellent front facing speakers, HTC's superior display technology.....
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All of which are things we are being told we need. If packaged the same most people would be able to tell the difference in screen and sound but we are constantly bombarded with PPI stats and device specs that have no real bearing in the real world.
Its easy to want the nexus 9 it looks amazing but when I think about it the g pad does everything I need and the spec is far from being outdated. And I use my pad everyday for work
Just my thoughts.
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Ready for L on my GPE...let the games begin!
galaxys said:
Ready for L on my GPE...let the games begin!
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Do you think it will come to gpe device?
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Do you think it will come to gpe device?
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Yes...hopefully!
I think LG has long since moved on to other, but not necessarily better things, which is a pity as the G-Pad is still my favorite device and one which I use for work every day. Lollipop on this thing would certainly make it even better.
Though it's a great dream to wake up one morning to hear that LG will be updating the 8.3 to Lollipop along with the newer G-Pads, their track record isn't that great (and being left out of the current round of Nexus devices doesn't help any). We can always hope for a rockin' 5.0 ROM in the coming months and extend our G-Pads that much longer!
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I think the 8.3 has the better chance of all LG tablets to get Lollipop - after all, it still is the top dog in LG's talet line. The recent trio are definitely lower end.
LG mum so far
http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/19/android-lollipop-roundup/
According to GSM Arena, V500 will get Lollipop...
http://www.gsmarena.com/all_the_android_phones_getting_50_lollipop_update_so_far-news-9980.php
My guess is since the gpad 8.3 was listed under google and not under LG that the GPE edition will get 5.0. I'd love to see 5.0 on the V500 and I would give stock a chance again if the sdcard problem was also fixed. However LG's silence is concerning. If they want to continue to get my money they need to support their products. Now if they did something crazy and fully unlocked the bootloader on the v500 so we didn't need to use the Loki work around I'd be quite happy. I'm still pleased with my purchase and wouldn't go back and change it though...
Hmmm.... my Galaxy S4 is also listed under Google... So I have high hopes for my devices...
Well, that has a GPE as well, so it's more than likely that version of the phone if you have it that'll be updated to Lollipop:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/when-and-where-to-get-android-5-0-lollipop-100266192494.html
Mark
galaxys said:
Ready for L on my GPE...let the wait and frustration begin!
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muiriddin said:
My guess is since the gpad 8.3 was listed under google and not under LG that the GPE edition will get 5.0. I'd love to see 5.0 on the V500 and I would give stock a chance again if the sdcard problem was also fixed. However LG's silence is concerning. If they want to continue to get my money they need to support their products. Now if they did something crazy and fully unlocked the bootloader on the v500 so we didn't need to use the Loki work around I'd be quite happy. I'm still pleased with my purchase and wouldn't go back and change it though...
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you are right, as those listed under google are gpe products
nevertheless we can port the gpe kernel to v500 and have aosp lollipop on the device
So G3 and G2 is confirmed. G pad is soon 12 months old, if lg don't update the g pad v500 to lollipop I will never buy a lg device again (except a nexus).
I just sent in a support query asking them about the v500 and v5.0, I got back the typical nonresponse response (we have nothing to announce yet... etc.)
Unofficial builds of CM12 have started rolling out for other devices. That will be our best hope. LG are awful with updates
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