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4.3 or 4.4 ?

Anyone hear any news about when we can expect 4.3 or 4.4 ?

ipguy said:
Anyone hear any news about when we can expect 4.3 or 4.4 ?
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Im curious about this too. Im thinking of picking up this bad boy tomorrow. I just returned a Galaxy Note 3 (too big!)

Why does it even matter ? What can't you do with your phone while running 4.2.2 ?

Cst79 said:
Why does it even matter ? What can't you do with your phone while running 4.2.2 ?
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There are tons of improvement, bug fix, and optimization in 4.3. With current 4.2.2 G2 is already a beast, cant wait how the performance with 4.3 or even 4.4

Cst79 said:
Why does it even matter ? What can't you do with your phone while running 4.2.2 ?
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Read up about TRIM

ipguy said:
Read up about TRIM
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Does this phone really need TRIM? I had 2 devices that really "needed" it.
One of them having the I/O etc issues and etc. Htc One X and Nexus 7. It did not make any difference .
No matter what I do, the Nexus 7 even with the TRIM running, btw read up on the conditions when it will fire away, is incredibly laggy. (And yes everything was tried, factory images, custom roms, custom kernels, setups) Will go for exchange
I would say TRIM is a bit overrated.
4.3 might not be for everyone to look for.
However rumors around 4.4 seem to be nice. I would have nothing against to skip the 4.3 and go directly to 4.4.
If they really cut down on the hungry resources and it will run on lesser devices, newer ones will literally fly

ipguy said:
Anyone hear any news about when we can expect 4.3 or 4.4 ?
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guessing, november
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/514505/20131017/android-4-kitkat-update-8-htc-lg.htm#.Ul_VadJDs1c

serialtoon said:
Im curious about this too. Im thinking of picking up this bad boy tomorrow. I just returned a Galaxy Note 3 (too big!)
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lol..yes that damn phone is huge....
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PAGOT said:
Does this phone really need TRIM? I had 2 devices that really "needed" it.
One of them having the I/O etc issues and etc. Htc One X and Nexus 7. It did not make any difference .
No matter what I do, the Nexus 7 even with the TRIM running, btw read up on the conditions when it will fire away, is incredibly laggy. (And yes everything was tried, factory images, custom roms, custom kernels, setups) Will go for exchange
I would say TRIM is a bit overrated.
4.3 might not be for everyone to look for.
However rumors around 4.4 seem to be nice. I would have nothing against to skip the 4.3 and go directly to 4.4.
If they really cut down on the hungry resources and it will run on lesser devices, newer ones will literally fly
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I def know that the LG G2/Moto X does not need trim.....

ipguy said:
Anyone hear any news about when we can expect 4.3 or 4.4 ?
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Wait till N5 launches with 4.4, then it will only be a matter of time till its port to the G2.

ipguy said:
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I understand about TRIM but if LG were to ask you that you can only have 1 ROM...4.3 or 4.4 what would you choose?
You can get 4.3 with TRIM or you can get 4.4 with TRIM + other features.
I want LG to skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4 because I want the new features + TRIM. In another 1-2 weeks, 4.3 will be nothing but history when 4.4 will be announced by Google. Everyone will want 4.4 and as much as you trust LG in thinking they will provide a software update for both 4.3 and 4.4, that is very unlikely. The process for a carrier and OEM to release an Android update is a long process and if LG were to go through this process, I want the latest and greatest Android update. 4.3 is very minor and other than TRIM support, I don't really care about the rest of the features.

4.3 Is awful. I kept 4.2.2 on my nexus devices due to the suck that is 4.3. I couldn't care less about an upgrade right now.

PAGOT said:
No matter what I do, the Nexus 7 even with the TRIM running, btw read up on the conditions when it will fire away, is incredibly laggy. (And yes everything was tried, factory images, custom roms, custom kernels, setups) Will go for exchange
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You actually had a laggy Nexus 7?
My Nexus 7 is buttery smooth with PAC 3.99 (Android 4.3).

dmbardal said:
You actually had a laggy Nexus 7?
My Nexus 7 is buttery smooth with PAC 3.99 (Android 4.3).
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I still do....
PA, CM, stock, factory resets, all kernels. And all the tools. Nothing helps... And I even have the best variant...
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Honestly, G2 on 4.2.2 is a damn good phone. I say get it, use it and prepare for Nexus 5 Roms to be available shortly. Trust me, you'll be happy you did.

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I still do....
PA, CM, stock, factory resets, all kernels. And all the tools. Nothing helps... And I even have the best variant...
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The new 2013 model ?
I'm still on the "old" 2012 model.
You should return it if you ask me.

dmbardal said:
The new 2013 model ?
I'm still on the "old" 2012 model.
You should return it if you ask me.
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the old model... I do not know that the new models had this problem...
anyways be happy you do not have that lag. there are like gazillion theories why it happens... boiling down to ****ty hw ... Once the SD gets full on extensive use the perfomance starts degrading, more and more quickly till the point factory resets wont do nothing...
Anyway enough OT Back to this phone.
You all guys think it that the Nexus 5 will be based on this.
Well I do not wanna pop your bubble.
But as mentioned earlier I had Nexus 7 old one with Tegra 3. And the Htc One X basically same device.
Thinking that we will have as well clones from Nexus 7. Did not happen and I actually do not know if anything or anything that matters came from the Nexus 7 to Htc One X despite being the same Chipset and etc.
Well could have been caused also cuz of Nvidia locking down their sources. But I think Snapdragon is also sometimes not so nice.
Anyways, saying that there will be for sure ports and etc. Till we really do not have the specs black on white, you wont know for sure.
Also there are already differences that might be crucial. So who knows how good the ports will be anyways.
Still knowing all this I ordered it. I would love nothing more then AOSP with Xposed and lets say Gravity Box + Greenify to make me happy

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You all guys think it that the Nexus 5 will be based on this.
Well I do not wanna pop your bubble.
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The FCC filing for what we think is the nexus 5 was based on the g2. A recertification or something IIRC. Other than the rumor of there maybe being multiple nexus phones coming out it seems like a lock that the n5 is g2 based.

Geekybiker said:
The FCC filing for what we think is the nexus 5 was based on the g2. A recertification or something IIRC. Other than the rumor of there maybe being multiple nexus phones coming out it seems like a lock that the n5 is g2 based.
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Not the point I was making though. I just meant that there might be differences that will make a 1:1 port not possible and we will have to forget about some stock features of the G2.
Getting of track there . 4.4 I do not remember google teasing so much with it ... or Nestle...

PAGOT said:
Not the point I was making though. I just meant that there might be differences that will make a 1:1 port not possible and we will have to forget about some stock features of the G2.
Getting of track there . 4.4 I do not remember google teasing so much with it ... or Nestle...
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Sure, but I'd expect AOSP roms to show up shortly afterwards. LG based stock one.. who cares. However it would be smart if LG did leverage their development work on the n5 to be the first out with 4.4 on a non-nexus device.

I really don't want to hurt feelings, but seeing past neither 4.3 nor 4.4 coming anytime soon.
Lg will highly updates it's phones once if it suits & that is also about year late. Than forget updates through lg.

will G2 get custom 4.4 based roms?

right now I'm still torn between G2 and Nexus 5, while G2 clearly has a rather superior hardware I've been spoiled with the look from pure 4.4 experience also unfortunately the Nexus isn't available yet on my country.
but from what I've seen there is no 4.4 based rom for G2 too, the question is, will it happen? specifically though I really want the kitkat version of Paranoid Android, will it come to G2? or is it actually more sure will come faster to Nexus 5?

It will eventually. But no manufacturers will gets it as fast nexus devices. If on time updates and rom is your main concern then your choice is limited.
-LG G2

I'm torn about this too, interested in the G2's battery life but only if I can get AOSP very smoothly and with no fuss. I wonder how stable CM11 nightlies will be for the first few months.

xdp said:
I'm torn about this too, interested in the G2's battery life but only if I can get AOSP very smoothly and with no fuss. I wonder how stable CM11 nightlies will be for the first few months.
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yeah, gsmarena battery test on nexus 5 kill my enthusiasm with it, however if it still a looong way for G2 to get 4.4 based rom then I'll just get nexus.

I know that everyone says that Nexus devices get updates the soonest, and while that's completely true and valid, to me it doesn't feel that way. I usually wait for CM or AOKP to put out stable builds before I upgrade, and by then they've built for every device and my neighbor's cat. Heck, it's been two weeks since 4.4 came out, and so far the Nexus 5 and the Nexus 7 officially have it, while in the mod community, CM11 is already out for other devices in a useable form. So, certainly official support for Nexus devices is quickest, but practically all the devices in the mod community get updates pretty quick.
That being said, the Nexus 4 has no official 4.4, but we on LG G2 are going to get CM11 very soon.

is this phone really get the support for at least 2 years from LG or they will just leave G2 behind with only one/ two update provided like what they did on their flagship phone in the past like LG Optimus 2x

I'm pretty sure we'll get a working PA 4.0 (KitKat 4.4) pretty soon. Houston already has his version of PA 3.99 up and running for us and he was just made a member of the PA Team the other day. It's just a matter of time, guys, be patient. . Houston kicks ass, too!
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Jank4AU said:
I'm pretty sure we'll get a working PA 4.0 (KitKat 4.4) pretty soon. Houston already has his version of PA 3.99 up and running for us and he was just made a member of the PA Team the other day. It's just a matter of time, guys, be patient. . Houston kicks ass, too!
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so do you think it's better to buy G2 than Nexus 5?

Problem for Canadians is there's almost no support at all for D803s. Huge drawback of so many variants of G2.

stickmage said:
Problem for Canadians is there's almost no support at all for D803s. Huge drawback of so many variants of G2.
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It's so true. I'm disheartened by the lack of availability for the d803, however don't posses the skills to do something about it. I've started down the long road of trying to learn for myself so I'm not just one of those people that sit idly by and complain... but like I said it's a long road and it feels like I'll probably own a G4 by the time if figure out how to bring ROMs over to the G2 lol

I was obsessing over getting the nexus 5 for as long as it was leaked it was coming out. Once it was confirmed it wasn't coming to Verizon I thought I would settle for the G2. Let me tell you that now I have had it for 2 weeks and tried every ROM out there so far. I can happily say I didn't settle at all. Great phone. Came from gnex. Roms are coming out. Not at nexus speed but they are out there. Waiting for pa 4.0 but I am rocking a ROM from the droid Razer forum not xda called vallidus by GZ ROMs. Lots of functions. Everything you could want. Build is 4.3.1 base. Absolutely stable.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/31612-romgzromsvalidus-13-vs980-431/
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nap007 said:
so do you think it's better to buy G2 than Nexus 5?
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Seeing how they are so similar again, like N4 and LGOG were, I would buy the G2 for its added battery size alone. Also, Houston has the Canadian version and is currently hard at work on PA 4.0. Just be patient. :beer::thumbup:
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Jank4AU said:
Seeing how they are so similar again, like N4 and LGOG were, I would buy the G2 for its added battery size alone. Also, Houston has the Canadian version and is currently hard at work on PA 4.0. Just be patient. :beer::thumbup:
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will it work on the international version of G2?

Hosers, eh?
Well, my take is that the Nexus is so similar to the G2 that we can't help but get lots of dev support (ie, so many of us who didn't want to wait for the Nexus and/or changed our minds at the last minute the same way a Chevy dealer puts a Corvette in the showroom to sell you a Malibu). We might not see as much as the G4 or the One, but Chrysler still sells a ton of cars even though they are not Ford or GM. I came from a Skyrocket which was just different enough from the S2 not to use the same roms, but close enough that it still has (unofficial) CM/PA/AOKP/PacMan support plus half a dozen hobbyist roms two years out.
Will we get "Official LG" Android 4.5 six minutes after the Nexus? No. Will I be stripping the factory rom and bloat off my phone the instant I get home from vacay (and off this stupid mac) and NEVER looking back? Absolutely.
And to the 803 guys and gals, I make no claims to be an expert by any means, but from the little reading I have done so far, the main difference between the models seems to be in the bootloader not the rom, so if that's the case you're bound to have someone up there willing to compile CM or whathaveyou for the 803... it just might not be "official."

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so do you think it's better to buy G2 than Nexus 5?
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I'd say yes so you can have the best of both worlds. Not just a phone with only AOSP based roms.
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Honestly I bought the g2 with the intention of throwing vanilla on there the moment I got it. I wound up digging the stock ROM more than AOSP. Some awesome features and optimisation and 4.4 next month!
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ChattyMatty said:
I came from a Skyrocket which was just different enough from the S2 not to use the same roms, but close enough that it still has (unofficial) CM/PA/AOKP/PacMan support plus half a dozen hobbyist roms two years out.
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*off topic* CM and PAC are both official for the rocket, so is Carbon and Slim Bean. That community is awesome and I still find myself visiting it daily. Team chopsticks already have a pretty stable alpha 2 version of cm11 up for the ol' 727 and, you're right, there are a ton of hobbyists in that community that have brought just about every rom you could want.

I'm just worried about getting myself into a situation where AOSP ROMs aren't working out or have problems. What's the main diff between T-Mobile (D801), AT&T (D800), and international (D802)? Does international work on US LTE? Does the Loki patch and CM 10.2 absolutely work on the T-Mobile version?

People.. Quit worrying it will happen
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lg g2 has better hardware, to quote someone else...software changes, hardware if forever

Should I return my G Pad?

Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.

If she paid full price then my suggestion would be to return it and get the GPE version if you want to run stock android. You might want to discuss this option with her to see how she feels about it if you're worried about her feeling hurt.

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Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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In my galaxy tab 2 cyanogen works 100 times better than its stock android as it doesnt have all the useless bloatware and frees up ram and memory. Stock firmwarein gpad runs just fine, especially if you have other android devices or a lg televison as it comes with usefull apps that only lg delivers. I dont find a reason to return gpad as it's the best tablet at the moment.

tgmorris said:
If she paid full price then my suggestion would be to return it and get the GPE version if you want to run stock android. You might want to discuss this option with her to see how she feels about it if you're worried about her feeling hurt.
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The LG os is just ok. Not so bloated like TouchWiz roms and if you uninstall some bloat you just will be OK with it.
I prefer much the lg version instead of stock android because I have a smart tv (Samsung by the way) and miracast works flawless.
I don't like stock android much, the LG keyboard is awesome!
I tried paranoid android and other 4.4.2 ROM and cm and I can tell you that they all loose much against stock firmware.
Only to give you an idea my cleaned stock ROM as 24 k antutu points and other 3 aosp based are in range from 17 to 21k!
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katsika said:
In my galaxy tab 2 cyanogen works 100 times better than its stock android as it doesnt have all the useless bloatware and frees up ram and memory. Stock firmwarein gpad runs just fine, especially if you have other android devices or a lg televison as it comes with usefull apps that only lg delivers. I dont find a reason to return gpad as it's the best tablet at the moment.
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I've used CM on phones with mixed results. I'm just getting to the point in my life where I can't be f'ing with Android roms. I want it clean and working.

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I've used CM on phones with mixed results. I'm just getting to the point in my life where I can't be f'ing with Android roms. I want it clean and working.
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I'm the opinion that cm is good for old devices that are forgotten. I never get better working device nor with aosp or cm. You miss all ways something and to get a stable release you need a year. I've s2 and the good working cm ROM is from last year.
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testadeferro said:
The LG os is just ok. Not so bloated like TouchWiz roms and if you uninstall some bloat you just will be OK with it.
I prefer much the lg version instead of stock android because I have a smart tv (Samsung by the way) and miracast works flawless.
I don't like stock android much, the LG keyboard is awesome!
I tried paranoid android and other 4.4.2 ROM and cm and I can tell you that they all loose much against stock firmware.
Only to give you an idea my cleaned stock ROM as 24 k antutu points and other 3 aosp based are in range from 17 to 21k!
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I just got 26k using mahdi ROM.. Didn't bench on stock.
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I just discovered the LG G Pad like three minutes ago. It looks pretty good for some future plans I have with using a tablet as a car stereo interface. Damn good, actually.
Anyways, I have an AT&T Galaxy S4. As you may or may not know, there is also a Google Play Edition S4 out there. And naturally, the ROM for that phone was ported over to the Euro version of the S4 which we are able to flash on the AT&T S4 (with an AT&T custom kernel).
And the Google Play Edition ROM I ran was 99.99% stock and 100% rock solid. I would not hesitate for a second to flash that ROM again if I weren't a big fan of AOSP.
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
Google Play Edition:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=lg_g_pad&hl=en

CZ Eddie said:
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
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That's what I was hoping for but I might just get a Nexus 7.

CZ Eddie said:
I just discovered the LG G Pad like three minutes ago. It looks pretty good for some future plans I have with using a tablet as a car stereo interface. Damn good, actually.
Anyways, I have an AT&T Galaxy S4. As you may or may not know, there is also a Google Play Edition S4 out there. And naturally, the ROM for that phone was ported over to the Euro version of the S4 which we are able to flash on the AT&T S4 (with an AT&T custom kernel).
And the Google Play Edition ROM I ran was 99.99% stock and 100% rock solid. I would not hesitate for a second to flash that ROM again if I weren't a big fan of AOSP.
So, if this can be done for the S4, then I would assume you can flash the Google Play Edition G Pad ROM onto your regular 'ol G Pad at some point when the dev's port it over.
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The s4 is not the Europe version but the international version gt 9505.
In Samsung devices is easier because you have open bootloaders.
And the matter that makes the possibility to convert is if there are many hardware and partition differences.
To tell you the true and going off topic the s4 as many problems with reboots and stability with the ge port.
I've Tryed myself 3 or 4 times and gone back to TouchWiz. Battery drains, reboots and much more. I think the issue was been kernel releated.
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Merry Christmas everyone. Well my wife went out and bought be a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it but I just want to know the chances of this thing running stock Android. Is there a chance that this tablet could run a stock Android rom and get OTA updates? I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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Number one, just be happy with what you've got, you sound really pathetic. Number two, our custom ROMs are daily drivers and work better than LGs stock ROM. Number three, conversion to GPE is at a stand still, so it's impossible at the moment to get OTAs from anything but LG.

I'm a huge fan of CM. The nightlies may have minor bugs here or there but it generally makes a huge difference in performance to the phones I've installed it on. This is probably because its a newer version of Android - I installed CM7 on a Froyo phone and CM9 on a gingerbread phone. Even CM10 is better on a JB device. Much smoother with less lag and obviously stripped of bloatware.
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You could...punch her in the face and demand an iPad Air.

Reckoning said:
You could...punch her in the face and demand an iPad Air.
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That's not nice on any day especially on Christmas.

techrider6262 said:
That's not nice on any day especially on Christmas.
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My bad, I was in Walmart yesterday so I thought punching people over gifts was in the spirit of Christmas.

Reckoning said:
My bad, I was in Walmart yesterday so I thought punching people over gifts was in the spirit of Christmas.
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Besides I would do it for buying me a ipad

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Besides I would do it for buying me a ipad
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Now, now..WWJD? He'd jailbreak that mofo and send Steve Jobs to Perdition...

Vitamin_D said:
Well my wife went out and bought a G pad. While I'm extremely appreciative of her doing this, I didn't really want her to get me one at full price. I mentioned that I wanted one when it was only $300 at Best Buy. I guess I have no issue with keeping it I'm over trying to mess with custom roms because they are always terrible and never work as well as stock.
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I might just get a Nexus 7.
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If it's the difference in cost, Newegg has the Tablet for $299.99 Right Now... I was able to purchase my G-Pad on that event Saturday at BB for the cost of $279.00.. yes, it was a great deal.
I would think long and hard about going back to a 7" Tablet after owning an 8.3" Tablet.. And don't forget, you can Root the Tablet you have in a few minutes.. (It took me 2 Minutes) and maintain all the stability of Stock and Freeze or better yet, Uninstall all the apps you feel are Bloatware.. The Best of Both Worlds.. I'm running Mahdi right now and it's 100% stable and very smooth..

testadeferro said:
The s4 is not the Europe version but the international version gt 9505.
In Samsung devices is easier because you have open bootloaders.
And the matter that makes the possibility to convert is if there are many hardware and partition differences.
To tell you the true and going off topic the s4 as many problems with reboots and stability with the ge port.
I've Tryed myself 3 or 4 times and gone back to TouchWiz. Battery drains, reboots and much more. I think the issue was been kernel releated.
Cheers
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not all GS4's are equal as the att s4 is also in the same place as the g pad, it needs to be lokified as well, and actually the gpe port was not as bad (at least on the att cooked version) as you make it out to be, myself going to beanstalk with it being stable (not rock stable) but most of the time stable
otherwise like the dev mention it should be something silly being the reason why not everything works on the gpe, looking over the gpe (as it doesn't have the gpu problems all the other roms have) it does have a different file structure, but it shouldn't be impossible to bring it up
RaiderWill said:
If it's the difference in cost, Newegg has the Tablet for $299.99 Right Now... I was able to purchase my G-Pad on that event Saturday at BB for the cost of $279.00.. yes, it was a great deal.. enough so that I turned in my Nexus 7 for the G-Pad 8.3.
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sweet got mine for about 275 shipped

darkassain said:
sweet got mine for about 275 shipped
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Yeah.. Newegg had them at the time for $249.99 shipped.. but I wanted to pay the $30.00 extra for 2 reasons.. 1) If anything was not right, I could just walk it in to BestBuy the same day and get a replacement.. 2) The return window was over 30 days.. I purchased the 1st week of December and have until January 15th to return/replace it if need be or the Mysterious Nexus 10 2014 should pop up in that time frame and be something REALLY special..
For the moment.. This is the Hottest Ticket on the Planet.

[Q] Non Play Edition ?

Does any one know when we will get upgrades to the LG non GPE g pad?
Or is it possible to install the GPE 4.42 upgrade on non GPE G Pad?
Thanks in advance.

Yes there's already a post about it. Search.
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DigitalLefty said:
Does any one know when we will get upgrades to the LG non GPE g pad?
Or is it possible to install the GPE 4.42 upgrade on non GPE G Pad?
Thanks in advance.
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I actually contacted LG regarding this the other day. They put me in contact with an 'LG g pad expert' who told me that it was unlikely that V500 would see any updates beyond 4.2.2, but that they would keep the LG G2 current (obvious). I was like, 'uhhhh, shouldn't it be easy since the gpe has the same specs and there is already 4.4 kitkat for it?'. He went on to explain to me that the OS development team responsible for the gpe was separate from the one that was responsible for the original g pad (V500) and that they (original developers) were being left out of the loop on everything regarding the new updates. The old devs were from LG and the new ones are from Google I think - I may have interpreted him incorrectly as he was difficult to understand... but I think this was the jist of what he was saying.

The upgrade to 4.4 broke my GPS completely. I did a factory reset to go back to 4.3 and then overnight it automatically updated to 4.4 again. After that the GPS works again.

Lucien2 said:
The upgrade to 4.4 broke my GPS completely. I did a factory reset to go back to 4.3 and then overnight it automatically updated to 4.4 again. After that the GPS works again.
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Please explain how you have 4.3 and 4.4 on your gpad
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there is no official update at the moment for 4.3 or 4.4.2. Only way is to install a custom recovery and then a custom rom. Cyanogenn mod 11 released a snapshot version yesterday

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there is no official update at the moment for 4.3 or 4.4.2. Only way is to install a custom recovery and then a custom rom. Cyanogenn mod 11 released a snapshot version yesterday
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So what is lucien talking about
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Canadoc said:
So what is lucien talking about
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he is talking about a custom rom or maybe the gpe edition? There are no official updates atm and i find it kind of hard for an official update to break your gps

Thought maybe he meant a gpe rom that he got working
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threnagyn said:
I actually contacted LG regarding this the other day. They put me in contact with an 'LG g pad expert' who told me that it was unlikely that V500 would see any updates beyond 4.2.2, but that they would keep the LG G2 current (obvious). I was like, 'uhhhh, shouldn't it be easy since the gpe has the same specs and there is already 4.4 kitkat for it?'. He went on to explain to me that the OS development team responsible for the gpe was separate from the one that was responsible for the original g pad (V500) and that they (original developers) were being left out of the loop on everything regarding the new updates. The old devs were from LG and the new ones are from Google I think - I may have interpreted him incorrectly as he was difficult to understand... but I think this was the jist of what he was saying.
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I very, very much doubt LG would kill support for their only tablet (outside of the GPE) as soon as it was released. If this thing gets stuck on 4.2.2 it'll be the last LG product I ever buy. Granted, I'm on 4.4.2 thanks to developers, but still. It would be very stupid of them.

There have been some rumors on sites that it will get it this quarter. Don't know how reliable anything is and will just wait and see. If it doesn't get an update I will end up rooting and flashing but I hope it does get an update because I like the LG interface and extras.
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Stujoe said:
There have been some rumors on sites that it will get it this quarter. Don't know how reliable anything is and will just wait and see. If it doesn't get an update I will end up rooting and flashing but I hope it does get an update because I like the LG interface and extras.
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A few people have spoken to LG about this and they currently have no plans to update the stock ROM to 4.4.2. Your best bet would be to root and flash it.

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I very, very much doubt LG would kill support for their only tablet (outside of the GPE) as soon as it was released. If this thing gets stuck on 4.2.2 it'll be the last LG product I ever buy. Granted, I'm on 4.4.2 thanks to developers, but still. It would be very stupid of them.
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I agree with you completely - I won't do business with them in the future either, but as I stated before, I contacted them and this is what they told me (that they prob wouldn't do updates). I think they are going to let the V500 supply dry up and only the V510 will be available from then on out. If that's the case, the user base of the V500 will be relatively small so they might not feel that its worth it to keep it updated for a small group of people.

colwellkr said:
A few people have spoken to LG about this and they currently have no plans to update the stock ROM to 4.4.2. Your best bet would be to root and flash it.
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Who have they talked to? The people who would typically answer a phone or email are unlikely to know. They will know of any potential update when or if LG is ready to release one just like anyone else. Until or if that happens, they are going to say no plans and would probably be instructed to say no plans.
Unless someone has a real inside source, I would be leery of any information coming from Joe blow at LG.
Regardless, I am sure I will be flashing it eventually anyway. I know myself too well to think I won't.
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Me thinks that if they don't have updates what they might do is merge updates with gpe and just allow apk installs for some of the lg specific features
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Me thinks that if they don't have updates what they might do is merge updates with gpe and just allow apk installs for some of the lg specific features
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I don't know man.. I think LG could just leave it as is. Since I mean.. Blue stripes, 7 LED's on white background with low brightness.. It just seems like there's been so many issues with this tablets screen that.. Well.. Why not release something new and take care of the issues?
Hasn't LG been known for leaving ppl out of the fun? Release the phone, move on, if you know what I mean.
With that said, I dealt with the screen and I don't notice any troubles at all, but not every one feel that way. I mean.. The boxes aren't sealed in half of the stores.. Man this tablet has had a pretty poor launch from LG's standpoint.
What I don't understand is why Google took it in at all with all these screens and such. Shouldn't they be pushing for like.. REAL quality? Gah, not that it's not quality.. It's just not Nexus standard with all these things on the screen. I dunno dude. Something just tells me that this tablet isn't gonna be as huge as I expected before I got it myself. If Google starts developing on the GPE all I can hope for is that ppl find a way for us v500 ppl to port over and keep on using this beast tablet. Cause let's face it. All tablets have issues, these are just a bit more.. Visual.. But fixable/ignorable/circumstanced I'd say.

The problems with this tablet are tiny compared to most of the devices that Google have released.
Check the forums for the devices that covers the first 3 months of release.
I waited 6 months before I bought the original n7 because of all the QC issues.
And also bear in mind that the actual sales figures for Google devices is just a small drop in the Ocean, compared to the big boys.
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I don't know man.. I think LG could just leave it as is. Since I mean.. Blue stripes, 7 LED's on white background with low brightness.. It just seems like there's been so many issues with this tablets screen that.. Well.. Why not release something new and take care of the issues?
Hasn't LG been known for leaving ppl out of the fun? Release the phone, move on, if you know what I mean.
With that said, I dealt with the screen and I don't notice any troubles at all, but not every one feel that way. I mean.. The boxes aren't sealed in half of the stores.. Man this tablet has had a pretty poor launch from LG's standpoint.
What I don't understand is why Google took it in at all with all these screens and such. Shouldn't they be pushing for like.. REAL quality? Gah, not that it's not quality.. It's just not Nexus standard with all these things on the screen. I dunno dude. Something just tells me that this tablet isn't gonna be as huge as I expected before I got it myself. If Google starts developing on the GPE all I can hope for is that ppl find a way for us v500 ppl to port over and keep on using this beast tablet. Cause let's face it. All tablets have issues, these are just a bit more.. Visual.. But fixable/ignorable/circumstanced I'd say.
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Lol go look at nexus 7 2013 forums. Google doesn't care about quality control for the most part in my opinion. Its a major factor why I decided to get this.
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whoamigriffiths said:
The problems with this tablet are tiny compared to most of the devices that Google have released.
Check the forums for the devices that covers the first 3 months of release.
I waited 6 months before I bought the original n7 because of all the QC issues.
And also bear in mind that the actual sales figures for Google devices is just a small drop in the Ocean, compared to the big boys.
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Lol go look at nexus 7 2013 forums. Google doesn't care about quality control for the most part in my opinion. Its a major factor why I decided to get this.
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I see your points guys. Just from having checked the earliest 3 pages on the Nexus 7 (2013) General forums I've found several reports on dead pixels and dust under the bezel/screen.
I subtract my statement. To some degree. I still stand firm by the fact that I don't understand why Google would choose a tablet that has been reported to have like.. Cohesive issues with the screen and that it is up to peoples "nit picking" if they wanna keep it or not.
One thing is to have Asus produce a tablet, test some devices and then release it and THEN find out the screens and the damn assembly of the tablets has been flawed as fck, not to mention the seemingly bad functioning android 4.3 Stock Nexus 7 ROM. - Another thing is to decide to re-release a branded 8 inch tablet as a Google device even after it has been receiver with such big variation by the masses.
With all the devices that were being swapped for new ones already, I don't see how Google would think they'd actually make a lot of money on selling this device. Wouldn't it have been more clever to wait around and see if something better came along? Of course the fact that the LG G Pad 8.3" falls in line with the low cost Google devices is of course a reason worth considering as well, in terms of branding. It just doesn't change that this tablet is unstable on the consumer market since many people thinks of the screen as the most important thing on a tablet, and I will agree with them since you're looking at it and it will show all mistakes to you at all times (when you choose to look for them.)
Isn't there a difference between creating a device and then finding the flaws after production and re-releasing a device you already knew was having issues that a big part of the community was rather unsatisfied with to begin with?
- Sorry for the long answer guys. And I agree with you on the fact that Google prolly doesn't care that much about quality control since all these issues are floating around in the Nexus forums. So, I'm sorry for the first post. This one is simply just me thinking about the last part here.

First of people on these forums myself include d are the worst nit pickers. 99% of buy public would either not notice or care of what we complain about.
GPE edition is likely due to face there is a partnership with Google and lg. The last 2 Nexus phones are made by LG.
Overall it is a good tablet. It would cost them nothing for current users to be Allowed to move the software top sane add gpe version if they decide not to continue support.
Long before then I am sure we will have a rom with the best of both
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This may be a stupid question but since..

... since the g2 and nexus 5 have (generally) the same specs, when you root the g2 is it turning it into a nexus 5 and can you use nexus 5 ROMS or no?
Thanks in advance..
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wasabitobiko said:
... since the g2 and nexus 5 have (generally) the same specs, when you root the g2 is it turning it into a nexus 5 and can you use nexus 5 ROMS or no?
Thanks in advance..
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Greetings[emoji4][emoji4], its not turning into a nexus 5 UNTIL you can flash custom Roms that are compatible with your G2 aswell as being compatible with the Nexus 5 already, when I was rooted, I flashed Cyanogenmod 11/Paranoid Android/Mahdi Rom,etc, and I saw my phone as a Nexus 5 or even better, but yes you can flash Custom Roms that are compatible with the Nexus 5 for your G2.[emoji6][emoji6]
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Thats not correct. If you flash CM11 or PA on G2 it will be the same and it will look same as that ROM on Nexus 5 (since they have similar hardware). But you cant flash .zip file of Nexus 5 ROM on G2 because you will probably brick your phone.

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Thats not correct. If you flash CM11 or PA on G2 it will be the same and it will look same as that ROM on Nexus 5 (since they have similar hardware). But you cant flash .zip file of Nexus 5 ROM on G2 because you will probably brick your phone.
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I'm well aware that CM11 and PA can use Google Now Launcher, and I'm aware that Paranoid Android is based on Cyanogenmod, and that their both AOSP based Roms, because I've tested both of these Custom Roms, I wasn't telling him to flash a zip file of the Nexus 5 Rom, because it will(not probably) brick his phone, because the Nexus 5 runs different(not by much) hardware compared to the G2.
What I quoted in my last post stating "its not turning into a nexus 5 UNTIL you can flash custom Roms that are compatible with your G2 aswell as being compatible with the Nexus 5." i was stating that he can flash a Custom Rom that makes your G2 look and act like you would have a Nexus 5, not that he can flash a Nexus 5 Rom, I just want you to understand my last statement towards his question and this one aswell.
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I just thougt that your post was a little bit unclear to someone who is new to XDA, flashing and thoose stuff. Hope he will understand it now and not do anything wrong to brick his phone
EDIT: I know how to be a begginer (although I had Android devices for 3 years so far), G2 seems like kinda specific device. Loki bootloader, especially after nexus device is something completly strange, then thoose black and white lines... I had to spend few hours to read all stickies to understand some things.

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I just thougt that your post was a little bit unclear to someone who is new to XDA, flashing and thoose stuff. Hope he will understand it now and not do anything wrong to brick his phone
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I agree, hope all goes well.
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Thanks for clearing things up..
While not a total noob, I'm still learning. I've rooted several android devices.. HTC evo shift, 3d, sensation, nexus 7, 2x nexus 4 and B&N Nook HD+. Currently have a Nexus 4. I'm considering getting the G2 since it is very close in specs to the Nexus 5 but can be bought for about $100 less. Hence, my question. I realize that once you put a custom ROM on any device, it will look just like others' with that ROM but I was originally curious about being able to use Nexus 5 ROMs with the G2 since the specs are almost identical. My fear is that developer support for this device will wane, where support is constant with Nexus devices.
Thanks again for the help.

wasabitobiko said:
While not a total noob, I'm still learning. I've rooted several android devices.. HTC evo shift, 3d, sensation, nexus 7, 2x nexus 4 and B&N Nook HD+. Currently have a Nexus 4. I'm considering getting the G2 since it is very close in specs to the Nexus 5 but can be bought for about $100 less. Hence, my question. I realize that once you put a custom ROM on any device, it will look just like others' with that ROM but I was originally curious about being able to use Nexus 5 ROMs with the G2 since the specs are almost identical. My fear is that developer support for this device will wane, where support is constant with Nexus devices.
Thanks again for the help.
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I personally don't think developer support for the LG G2 will wane, there's still developer support for the Galaxy S3, I'm guessing since the Nexus Line is aimed more for developers(seeing the Nexus Line is really Developer Based Phones), is why its so popular (besides the fact of it running pure stock android, and not having any custom android skins on top of it, and receiving updates quicker than any other non-nexus device) and it's support won't wither anytime soon, because they're so many developers out there that most likely have a nexus device and are testing apps and Roms on, I'm guessing.[emoji4][emoji4][emoji4]
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