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[Q] ROOT?

I love my Evo. Main reason? Personalization, flashing custom roms, flashing fonts, etc. My knowledge of development ain't that great though and I'm wondering from those "in the know": Do you think we'll access root and be able to flash custom roms?
For me, this is the best tablet b/c it runs android. I don't mind the price, I just want to be able to do what I want to the device Opinions?

I wouldn't doubt it. In fact, I expect it. I don't think there are any android devices that haven't been rooted. Just have to give it time once it's released.

Sirchuk said:
I wouldn't doubt it. In fact, I expect it. I don't think there are any android devices that haven't been rooted. Just have to give it time once it's released.
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Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?

blozout said:
Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?
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Ditto

blozout said:
Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?
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That's about all it is. They shut down any access to the loader which means you can get around to install anything. Most of motos new phones are this way. Its a kick in the nards but it protects their hardware from stuff like overclocking and burning out stuff. And of course the occasional brick.
I hate it but I see the point. And I can see the xoom being locked....little expensive for them to have to keep taking back because a new rooter f'ed theirs up.

Hmmm. Though I don't see custom ROMs being as necessary, that actually gives me a touch of pause. I don't like to think that the life of the device can't be extended if Motorola created a XOOM 2 or something.

setite said:
Hmmm. Though I don't see custom ROMs being as necessary, that actually gives me a touch of pause. I don't like to think that the life of the device can't be extended if Motorola created a XOOM 2 or something.
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I don't think the hardware spec as is will get outdated anytime soon.
Well..outdated yes, regress into unusable for web, video and apps.. certainly not.
The device per the data sheet will still run things quite well as we know them now for a very long time.
Only thing yet to be really proven is how teg2 can handle intensive 3d functions in 'real world' scenarios.. and if you think Crysis will be better played on a tablet I have a bridge for sale.

feron said:
I don't think the hardware spec as is will get outdated anytime soon.
Well..outdated yes, regress into unusable for web, video and apps.. certainly not.
The device per the data sheet will still run things quite well as we know them now for a very long time.
Only thing yet to be really proven is how teg2 can handle intensive 3d functions in 'real world' scenarios.. and if you think Crysis will be better played on a tablet I have a bridge for sale.
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I know the hardware won't be outdated, I'm talking about all the obsolete android phones because their OEMs abandoned them and they never got FroYo. I think if it ends up being locked down I might have to utilize Best Buy's new return policy on the 28th day.

The Atrix has already been rooted:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/19/motorola-atrix-4g-already-rooted-and-its-not-even-out-yet/

I wouldn't be shock if Motorola backs off the boot loader block. Pretty funny huh. I was talking to the guys in best buy mobile and they claimed it was verizon that was locking down the boot loaders. Of course these are the same guys who were shocked when I told them I had a OC nook color w/ froyo and honeycomb.

robbiev80 said:
The Atrix has already been rooted:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/19/motorola-atrix-4g-already-rooted-and-its-not-even-out-yet/
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Until I see the bootloader rooted, I say meh.
jkurl said:
I wouldn't be shock if Motorola backs off the boot loader block. Pretty funny huh. I was talking to the guys in best buy mobile and they claimed it was verizon that was locking down the boot loaders. Of course these are the same guys who were shocked when I told them I had a OC nook color w/ froyo and honeycomb.
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Shame on you for talking to BB employees about anything technical. No hate, but most of them are morons.

It just makes me laugh when I talk to people like that. Being an electronics technician I do it sometimes just to see what chunks of stupid come out of their mouths.

Since the Xoom is intended to be the reference development tablet platform by Google, it should be easy to root and has an easy to unlock bootloader, just like the Nexus One and Nexus S.
That being said, Motorola is Motorola... so they may do their usual Motorola thing and encrypt everything up. But I think the chance that the Xoom is easy to mess around with is pretty high.

tsekh501 said:
Since the Xoom is intended to be the reference development tablet platform by Google, it should be easy to root and has an easy to unlock bootloader, just like the Nexus One and Nexus S.
That being said, Motorola is Motorola... so they may do their usual Motorola thing and encrypt everything up. But I think the chance that the Xoom is easy to mess around with is pretty high.
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This is what I'm banking on. But if it turns out being locked down. I will be sending an e-mail to Motorola and Google with a picture of my return receipt and an explanation.

I went to my local best buy today. I got there around noonish and I was the first and only person to pre order or even ask about the xoom.

jkurl said:
I went to my local best buy today. I got there around noonish and I was the first and only person to pre order or even ask about the xoom.
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Same with me. Infact im not even sure im going to get the damn thing. They were so unorganized and unprepared. I NEVER go on websites and do the ratings but for this i did. It was a horrible experience trying to get this thing pre ordered. 3 of the techs had to talk to each other to figure out what i was asking for. I didnt think the statement "i would like to pre order the motorola xoom" was all that confusing. I never shop at best buy but being as inpatient as i am i took the risk to get my hands on this thing as fast as possible. I just hope i get a call once they come in. As it looked im going to be the only call they have to make.
Did anyone else get a copy of their preorder or just a receipt?

jacob.stewart said:
Same with me. Infact im not even sure im going to get the damn thing. They were so unorganized and unprepared. I NEVER go on websites and do the ratings but for this i did. It was a horrible experience trying to get this thing pre ordered. 3 of the techs had to talk to each other to figure out what i was asking for. I didnt think the statement "i would like to pre order the motorola xoom" was all that confusing. I never shop at best buy but being as inpatient as i am i took the risk to get my hands on this thing as fast as possible. I just hope i get a call once they come in. As it looked im going to be the only call they have to make.
Did anyone else get a copy of their preorder or just a receipt?
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All i got is my receipt that says Motorola Xoom pre order and I have that $50 gift card. I was the 4th to pre order
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p-slim said:
All i got is my receipt that says Motorola Xoom pre order and I have that $50 gift card. I was the 4th to pre order
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Thats all i have also. The confusion among the techs had me skeptical. Hopefully my skepticism doesnt hold to be true.
Also praying for no locked bootloader. Hoping to be rooted within the first few days

All I got was the receipt and the gift card as well. Got to our BB ~1300 to place the order and was the first to actually place an order, as opposed to people asking questions about it. Course our BB is in a town of ~50,000 (metro area ~150,000) so I was a little concerned they would even get any in for Thursday, they say they are indeed due in this week.
Did see the preorder paperwork she filled out.
Like above, they didn't know what they were looking for. The girl found it without too much wait though.

DaBoSSmon said:
All I got was the receipt and the gift card as well. Got to our BB ~1300 to place the order and was the first to actually place an order, as opposed to people asking questions about it. Course our BB is in a town of ~50,000 (metro area ~150,000) so I was a little concerned they would even get any in for Thursday, they say they are indeed due in this week.
Did see the preorder paperwork she filled out.
Like above, they didn't know what they were looking for. The girl found it without too much wait though.
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Yep, ran into the same problem. The guy had no clue, the female was all over it. She knew exactly what I was asking for, went right to the pre-order sheet and got it done lickity split and she was hot to.

Returning my Galaxy SIII (Verizon)

it is with a very sad and heavy heart that i've decided to return my samsung galaxy s3 to Verizon today. it's by far the greatest cellphone i've seen.
i had shattered my Thunderbolt a couple weeks back, and wanting to keep my unlimited data plan, i was more than glad to pay full price for this device. it's really that incredible.
unfortunately, upon receiving the device, i learned of +Verizon Wireless' locking of the bootloader. they were the only carrier to do such. this has soured the taste in my mouth so greatly, that i am forced to send this incredible machine back to Verizon.
a truly sad day to be a geek.

seittit said:
it is with a very sad and heavy heart that i've decided to return my samsung galaxy s3 to Verizon today. it's by far the greatest cellphone i've seen.
i had shattered my Thunderbolt a couple weeks back, and wanting to keep my unlimited data plan, i was more than glad to pay full price for this device. it's really that incredible.
unfortunately, upon receiving the device, i learned of +Verizon Wireless' locking of the bootloader. they were the only carrier to do such. this has soured the taste in my mouth so greatly, that i am forced to send this incredible machine back to Verizon.
a truly sad day to be a geek.
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If you're willing to pay full price, why not buy the developer version?

Overstew said:
If you're willing to pay full price, why not buy the developer version?
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i am, when i preordered the device there was no 'developer version' (and there's yet one to be for sale on Samsung's developer page)
when it goes live, i'll pick up one, though it makes me wonder just how much Android developer support will be on the Verizon model. not too many devs are willing to pay full price, the community is likely to be very small.

Imo your better off sticking around and waiting for Adam Outleter to finish unlocking the bootloader. I doubt too many will be getting the dev gs3. Dont see much point in a developer edition when there wont be much development on it...

droidstyle said:
Imo your better off sticking around and waiting for Adam Outleter to finish unlocking the bootloader. I doubt too many will be getting the dev gs3. Dont see much point in a developer edition when there wont be much development on it...
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I agree with this. Adam is getting really close. It's very interesting to follow his thread. I wish I knew more about programming and inner workings of the android OS so I could help him out.

Adam's thread?
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Yeah, man. Stick around. Adam is making great progress on getting the bootloader unlocked.
Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III with a locked bootloader - F*** YOU VERIZON

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Adam's thread?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769411

And we care....why? Why would you feel the need to let everyone on this board know that you're returning your phone?
Hold up guys, I'm going to create a new thread: I've got to go to the bathroom (Toilet).

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769411
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Try to refrain from posting in it. Just read and follow along with all the smart guys. Some have already post the "omg you guys are so smart" stuff in there and Adam specifically asked no one to do that. I hope as this link gets out there people can follow the rules.
The locked version will have 10x the dev support Imo. I wouldn't get the dev device. That and you can already flash aosp roms on the locked version using kexec. I think you are making a mistake.
Sent from my SGS3

mustbepbs said:
And we care....why? Why would you feel the need to let everyone on this board know that you're returning your phone?
Hold up guys, I'm going to create a new thread: I've got to go to the bathroom (Toilet).
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Who cares? If you don't like it ignore it. Simple.
To the op... I feel ya.. In fact so much so I canceled my pre order and switched to tmobile! So happy I did.. I'll save $50/month and have a fully unlocked device. If you aren't tied to a contract still I would consider checking coverage in your area and pricing it out. I knew I would save money but not this much lol.
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[Q] Verizon version capable of root?

So I've started researching the Note 3 as of recently as a replacement to my S4. What's got me worried is all the talk about how Verizon has taken extra steps to lock down the Note 3. I know the talk isn't anything new since Verizon has consistently tried locking down our phones without success, however is there anything new to cause concern over this phone in particular? Are we confident that the Note on Verizon will receive root with s-off? Not having root would definitely be a deal breaker so I'd like to nail down the facts before I pull the trigger. Also another side question, what is the version number for the Verizon version? Thanks for any help provided!

Found the answer to my second question. The Verizon version model number will be model SM-N9005

That's the same lte model that they are already rooting overseas. The criteria being the bootloader is unlocked. I'll be around to supply cheer and encouragement
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d.scardino said:
Found the answer to my second question. The Verizon version model number will be model SM-N9005
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It will be
SM-N9005V
HA HA HA

keymaster911 said:
It will be
SM-N9005V
HA HA HA
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Isn't it SM-N900V?
See link also has Verizon.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/11/samsung-galaxy-note-3-reaches-the-fcc-in-att-and-sprint-forms/
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Ive been trying to keep up with the note 3 forums when they opened and they are rooted and do have custom roms but the bootloader has to be unlocked just to even get root through odin. Verizon will def be locking it down. Hopefully wont be too long before a dev cracks it because I need root!!!!!!!

monkey10120 said:
Ive been trying to keep up with the note 3 forums when they opened and they are rooted and do have custom roms but the bootloader has to be unlocked just to even get root through odin. Verizon will def be locking it down. Hopefully wont be too long before a dev cracks it because I need root!!!!!!!
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Bootloader is unlocked.. The first day I get my hands on it.. I have a tool that I have been using for the last 4 devices.. That unlocks the bootloader..
all verizon stuff..
-s3
-note 2
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-tab 2 7.0
And I am sure it will work on the note 3 .. I have reached out to some high tech devs out here to help out on the recovery/rom .. Just waiting on some replys..

keymaster911 said:
Bootloader is unlocked.. The first day I get my hands on it.. I have a tool that I have been using for the last 4 devices.. That unlocks the bootloader..
all verizon stuff..
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-tab 2 7.0
And I am sure it will work on the note 3 .. I have reached out to some high tech devs out here to help out on the recovery/rom .. Just waiting on some replys..
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Ah..yea ok...right...lol. Get a life!

suzook said:
Ah..yea ok...right...lol. Get a life!
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@suzook what is your freaking problem. You're always a d bag if you don't believe someone.... You are the freaking reason xda is starting to suck because you have nothing but negative things to say!!!!!!!!!!!!! You did the same thing in EZ thread. So what if you don't believe him or he's lying. STOP BEING A FREAKING D BAG, THE WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD JUST OFF THEMSELVES!!!!

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@suzook what is your freaking problem. You're always a d bag if you don't believe someone.... You are the freaking reason xda is starting to suck because you have nothing but negative things to say!!!!!!!!!!!!! You did the same thing in EZ thread. So what if you don't believe him or he's lying. STOP BEING A FREAKING D BAG, THE WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD JUST OFF THEMSELVES!!!!
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Im not a Dbag.....I KNOW FOR A FACT the bl is NOT UNLOCKED. Do i wish it was??? ABSOLUTELY!

suzook said:
Im not a Dbag.....I KNOW FOR A FACT the bl is NOT UNLOCKED. Do i wish it was??? ABSOLUTELY!
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I'm just taking a stab in the dark here, but.... I own a Verizon Galaxy s4, and... we definitely don't have an unlocked boot-loader...

suzook said:
Im not a Dbag.....I KNOW FOR A FACT the bl is NOT UNLOCKED. Do i wish it was??? ABSOLUTELY!
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Guys. Please dont start in here.. thanks. Just fyi I have alot of people behind me in this project. I sent out the memo to them last night. How I am going to get the bootloader unlocked.. We are just waiting on the device to land in are lap. I had order 2 of them. To play with. The second one is there if the first one fails. Which I hope it don't. So just hang in there suzook. Please.
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BossJ said:
I'm just taking a stab in the dark here, but.... I own a Verizon Galaxy s4, and... we definitely don't have an unlocked boot-loader...
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Right! We keep getting these ridiculous posts about "when will the the n3 be released" and crazy lies about the bl being unlocked already. People need to wake up and realize there IS NO UNLOCKED BL! If there was the s4 would have it. And another thing...its being released OCTOBER 10TH!
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Guys. Please dont start in here.. thanks. Just fyi I have alot of people behind me in this project. I sent out the memo to them last night. How I am going to get the bootloader unlocked.. We are just waiting on the device to land in are lap. I had order 2 of them. To play with. The second one is there if the first one fails. Which I hope it don't. So just hang in there suzook. Please.
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OH BOY..here we go again. Does anyone see the pattern with this guy? This is the same person who claimed vz was shipping out on the 29th. Well...here we are still waiting. Oh, he also claimed an unlocked BL....Now in his comments he has one unlocked, but the other is not...this is his way of claiming they changed how the BL is locked. Ban this troll.

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Right! We keep getting these ridiculous posts about "when will the the n3 be released" and crazy lies about the bl being unlocked already. People need to wake up and realize there IS NO UNLOCKED BL! If there was the s4 would have it. And another thing...its being released OCTOBER 10TH!
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OH BOY..here we go again. Does anyone see the pattern with this guy? This is the same person who claimed vz was shipping out on the 29th. Well...here we are still waiting. Oh, he also claimed an unlocked BL....Now in his comments he has one unlocked, but the other is not...this is his way of claiming they changed how the BL is locked. Ban this troll.
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This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.

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This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.
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Im not a pessimist, but a realist. Everyone needs to accept there is NO BL unlock. Why start rumors? Thats all they are without PROOF. All it does it make pointless threads.

suzook said:
Im not a pessimist, but a realist. Everyone needs to accept there is NO BL unlock. Why start rumors? Thats all they are without PROOF. All it does it make pointless threads.
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All I'm saying is you can't see the future, until the phones are released and we give him a chance we can't say if his post was pointless :highfive: lets be friends

2swizzle said:
This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.
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I wish I could hit that thanks button 1000 times. Well spoken. . Thanks again. . (1001) now..
Android is just the beginning.

2swizzle said:
This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.
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Verizon rep is full of it. All it takes is a simple email saying you are going to be charged a week early or whatever and if you wish to wait till 10/10 please call such and such and boom done. It was never early everybody speculated there was no proof of early release. Let me go back to bestbuy where I was yesterday talking to inventory guys and Samsung rep with road map and had 10/10 so anybody saying before is a straight up liar.
And the rude posts!?!? Are you kidding? Dude posts for sure they are shipping 9/29 & unlocked bootloader & then closes thread before he "talks" to Verizon. Yeah right. Now this unlocked crap he is full of it.
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Im not a pessimist, but a realist. Everyone needs to accept there is NO BL unlock. Why start rumors? Thats all they are without PROOF. All it does it make pointless threads.
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Amen. Nothing without proof. Somebody I believe asked for proof of unlocked bootloader info and he refused. I want proof for anything anymore. I like you man. Atta boy suzook
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oneandroidnut said:
Verizon rep is full of it. All it takes is a simple email saying you are going to be charged a week early or whatever and if you wish to wait till 10/10 please call such and such and boom done. It was never early everybody speculated there was no proof of early release. Let me go back to bestbuy where I was yesterday talking to inventory guys and Samsung rep with road map and had 10/10 so anybody saying before is a straight up liar.
And the rude posts!?!? Are you kidding? Dude posts for sure they are shipping 9/29 & unlocked bootloader & then closes thread before he "talks" to Verizon. Yeah right. Now this unlocked crap he is full of it.
Amen. Nothing without proof. Somebody I believe asked for proof of unlocked bootloader info and he refused. I want proof for anything anymore. I like you man. Atta boy suzook
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Suzook and I found a common ground, I understand where he's coming from and he understood my point. We can not predict the future.... EZ closed his thread because he was tired of you guys treating him like Sh.. for no reason.. If sockmonkey posted right now he has a unsecure bootloader for the note 3 you would call b.s.... but he is the same guy who released the bootloader for the s3... my point is until the guy proves he's full of it, give him a break...

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Suzook and I found a common ground, I understand where he's coming from and he understood my point. We can not predict the future.... EZ closed his thread because he was tired of you guys treating him like Sh.. for no reason.. If sockmonkey posted right now he has a unsecure bootloader for the note 3 you would call b.s.... but he is the same guy who released the bootloader for the s3... my point is until the guy proves he's full of it, give him a break...
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Well we will see soon enough and proof would be nice
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Bootloader Unlock Imminent - Next week?

After a big commotion, they seemed to have unveiled their surprise they were going to share next week.
Can't share URLs yet so please delete underscore after https.
https://community.zteusa.com/thread/11498#41615
EDIT (Important): Could someone who requested an unlock please look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/to-unlock-bootloader-hold-help-t3437617/page1 . This would help develop for this phone much faster. Please do the steps mentioned before updating.

Seems pretty guaranteed actually all the CSRs were apparently misinformed and the one of the head forum CSRs is furious about this and seems like pretty much guaranteed unlock in a reply to the post above.

Yeah ! It was me who posted on zte forums .. Just wanted to nudge them a little so they can at least come clean

Thank god you did I almost cancelled my order. I posted my frustration in that thread too.

reddrago said:
After a big commotion, they seemed to have unveiled their surprise they were going to share next week.
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Yup I'm there too LoL, (not my usual username i have to change that).
So we hope we get some awesome news next week (fingers cross)

Can't wait for Monday now lol, hope there is still enough buzz with the device here on XDA for ROMs and not too many people jumped ship.

Sweet...
Definitely hope we get some good roms with the bootloaders unlocked.
Had my Axon 7 for a couple weeks now, live in Oz and chinese version works fine here, and it's a pretty sweet deal. Got an Antutu benchmark of almost 142000 edging out the 1+3 by a few hundred points....
My only gripe is the virtual assistant software is only available in Chinese...
If the bootloader is unlocked I should be able to change to WW firmware fixing this....

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Yeah ! It was me who posted on zte forums .. Just wanted to nudge them a little so they can at least come clean
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Yeah, i added a little gasoline on there as well :angel:

Awesome! With the confusion over whether Passport 2.0 applies to Newegg purchases or if it is final/replacement-only, I was starting to worry that I may be need to cancel my preorder just to be safe. But if the bootloader is going to be unlocked, frankly that seals the deal for me. As far as I can tell, the only issue left is low-light camera performance, but honestly, with all the positives for this phone it isn't a huge tradeoff.
I just hope the late notice hasn't turned off developers of custom roms and root/recovery builders.

Yea bootloader unlock deal was making me doubt this phone, I really hope devs are still attarcted to this too. A lot of the reviews on the ZTE forums say that manual mode is much better in low light so it is most likely a software bug.

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Awesome! With the confusion over whether Passport 2.0 applies to Newegg purchases or if it is final/replacement-only, I was starting to worry that I may be need to cancel my preorder just to be safe. But if the bootloader is going to be unlocked, frankly that seals the deal for me. As far as I can tell, the only issue left is low-light camera performance, but honestly, with all the positives for this phone it isn't a huge tradeoff.
I just hope the late notice hasn't turned off developers of custom roms and root/recovery builders.
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Also on the newegg product page under Warranty & Returns it states you can return for refund before 30 days but a restocking fee may be applied so you are probably fine if you want to try out the device but you might want to check with newegg just in case.
http_://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875705055

Wow those are great news Now just have to wait for the grey color to be available ?
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I have the chinese model, just got an update. In Chinese forums they are talking about root and bootloader regarding this update.
Am in Vietnam now and Google translate is failing, but I'm hopeful!

Where is this chinese forum? I can never find it, really want to translate some of the stuff.

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I have the chinese model, just got an update. In Chinese forums they are talking about root and bootloader regarding this update.
Am in Vietnam now and Google translate is failing, but I'm hopeful!
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Can you link the thread?

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Where is this chinese forum? I can never find it, really want to translate some of the stuff.
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http://www.myzte.cn/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=1037
Google translate, does a less than stellar job on it.
What's interesting about the ZTE Chinese forums is that you can download the full ROM updates, which you can also do from ztedevices.com, but you can't do any of it for US based devices.

That's the link, I think. My mate translates for me. I don't speak Chinese and their slang and technical terms aren't fit for Google translation

Hopefully it arrives by the 15th, so I'll know if I should cancel my pre-order Grey model.

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http://www.myzte.cn/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=1037
Google translate, does a less than stellar job on it.
What's interesting about the ZTE Chinese forums is that you can download the full ROM updates, which you can also do from ztedevices.com, but you can't do any of it for US based devices.
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I could not find this anywhere I must be bad at using google or something haha.

reddrago said:
I could not find this anywhere I must be bad at using google or something haha.
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I believe that this is the topic.
But nothing too constructive as far as google translate can take me... As far as i could understand, it's just someone that tought the OEM Unlock menu appeared with the last update (B07) but it was already there and does nothing (a lot of interpretation in my traduction of the garbage google gave me^^).

Replacement from Verizon [unlockable]

After having issues with my camera and USB port, I have to get a replacement device from Verizon. I was pissed to have to do this because I used depixel8 to unlock my phone and the new one would be on 7.1.1 and locked. I booted up the device without the Sim card, just on the off chance I was on 7.1. It was on 7.1.1 and the oem unlock option was grayed out. After putting in my Verizon Sim, the option is now ungrayed and lets me flip it freely. Am I just lucky or what? I got the device through asurion and they said I would for sure get a Verizon variant

Yep, lucky ducky.

The weird thing is, the sim card is what flipped it from being grayed out to not. I threw a big fit with both Google and Verizon about not being able to use my phone for its designed purpose. What are the chances they changed it for me?

Probably slim to none, you got lucky like did the first time. the first return I got from Asurion was unlockable on 7.1.1, my replacement a month later due to a bad battery, was locked, but it was a BRAND NEW phone the second time, the first come in a Asurion box and was obviously a refurb, the second came in the retail box like if I just bought it from Verizon.

It's more the luck of the draw. I'm on my 4th pixel XL. One brand new one and 3 from warranty. #1 was locked and had Samsung memory. #2 unlocked with Toshiba memory. #3 locked with Samsung memory. #4 which is my current one is again unlocked again with Toshiba memory. Seems it's only the 32gb versions too. So they are definitely out there. I have yet to see this happen with the 128. I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say your current unlockable one has Toshiba memory. Just a hunch. Seems to be the common denominator.

It's not.
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It's not.
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Idk what this comment is referencing. What's not?

jdpro22 said:
Idk what this comment is referencing. What's not?
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The post immediately above the comment.

bobby janow said:
The post immediately above the comment.
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So it's not luck of the draw? Or it's not only 32gb models? Or it's not because of Toshiba/Samsung memory?
See how just saying "it's not" with no context is a little confusing?

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The post immediately above the comment.
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I made a poll AWHILE ago trying to get somebody to show me a full unlocked Verizon variant (not depixeled) with Samsung memory. I have yet to see one. If anyone can show me one that's fine. I'm just saying so far every single fully unlocked Verizon pixel XL that I've seen or read about has had Toshiba memory. I'm not saying thats the reason they are unlockable...I'm saying that is the pattern I've seen. Ive been waiting to see one but have yet to.
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Jdpro how much and what brand does it say your memory is on the bootloader?

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I made a poll AWHILE ago trying to get somebody to show me a full unlocked Verizon variant (not depixeled) with Samsung memory. I have yet to see one. If anyone can show me one that's fine. I'm just saying so far every single fully unlocked Verizon pixel XL that I've seen or read about has had Toshiba memory. I'm not saying thats the reason they are unlockable...I'm saying that is the pattern I've seen. Ive been waiting to see one but have yet to.
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Jdpro how much and what brand does it say your memory is on the bootloader?
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If you search there was a memory thread a month or so ago and it has been dis proven. You'd have to search for it though. But think about your theory for a sec. If that were the case don't you think JCase would have said that at the outset? So basically what you are saying is that if you have Toshiba memory you can unlock the bootloader whereas if you have Samsung memory you cannot? Well anyway, as you were a part of that thread, here is the post I was referring to. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71459372&postcount=53
Just one further thing. Are you saying that *all* Google Pixels have Toshiba memory? Simply because they are all unlockable. I still think it's the IMEI but no one has confirmed.

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After having issues with my camera and USB port, I have to get a replacement device from Verizon. I was pissed to have to do this because I used depixel8 to unlock my phone and the new one would be on 7.1.1 and locked. I booted up the device without the Sim card, just on the off chance I was on 7.1. It was on 7.1.1 and the oem unlock option was grayed out. After putting in my Verizon Sim, the option is now ungrayed and lets me flip it freely. Am I just lucky or what? I got the device through asurion and they said I would for sure get a Verizon variant
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Same thing happened to me
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bobby janow said:
If you search there was a memory thread a month or so ago and it has been dis proven. You'd have to search for it though. But think about your theory for a sec. If that were the case don't you think JCase would have said that at the outset? So basically what you are saying is that if you have Toshiba memory you can unlock the bootloader whereas if you have Samsung memory you cannot? Well anyway, as you were a part of that thread, here is the post I was referring to. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71459372&postcount=53
Just one further thing. Are you saying that *all* Google Pixels have Toshiba memory? Simply because they are all unlockable. I still think it's the IMEI but no one has confirmed.
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I do remember that thread. I was speaking strictly in terms of Verizon 32gb models. From my personal experience and that I have read. To my best recollection I haven't seen a Verizon/32/Samsung that was unlocked without using depixel. And I haven't seen a Verizon/32/Toshiba that needed depixel to unlock. These have all been verified as Verizon variants by cid. I also never meant to imply that it was because of the memory. Just that the pattern so far seems to be if you have a verizon/32/Toshiba it's garenteed to be unlockable...I'd actually like for that theory to be disproven. I'd also genuinely like to see a Verizon/32/Samsung that's unlockable as easily as the play store version. That's all I was saying. I have no experience with the 128...there seems to be no common ground with those.

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I do remember that thread. I was speaking strictly in terms of Verizon 32gb models.
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I see. So you're basing it on empirical evidence which is all well and good and certainly interesting if it does fit a pattern. However, that really doesn't go to the method that Verizon uses to lock the bootloader option. Since the 128 does not fall in line with the locking/memory scenario then I can't see that the observation is anything other than that. Don't get me wrong, I find it intriguing but not of any great value for those that want to unlock the bl. Unless I'm missing something, which has been know to happen now and again.
As you witnessed in that thread there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason that is obvious. It was thought the CID, the Sim, IMEI etc. None of which panned out. I'm not looking to unlock my bootloader so this is all academic to me. But I certainly am curious.

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I see. So you're basing it on empirical evidence which is all well and good and certainly interesting if it does fit a pattern. However, that really doesn't go to the method that Verizon uses to lock the bootloader option. Since the 128 does not fall in line with the locking/memory scenario then I can't see that the observation is anything other than that. Don't get me wrong, I find it intriguing but not of any great value for those that want to unlock the bl. Unless I'm missing something, which has been know to happen now and again.
As you witnessed in that thread there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason that is obvious. It was thought the CID, the Sim, IMEI etc. None of which panned out. I'm not looking to unlock my bootloader so this is all academic to me. But I certainly am curious.
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This all definitely true. And that is all it is...just theory based on observation. And it doesn't really help to unlock the bootloader at all. But where it does/could come into play is if your looking to purchase say a used on on eBay. It's probable that you could find a cheap priced Verizon version. And say the seller doesn't realize the value of an unlockable one. Because they aren't part of the scene or for whatever reason. Then say because of the price it's a better deal than a play version IF it's unlockable. That's when you ask them to check memory manufacturer. Of course this would only work on 32gb versions. And there is always a slim chance that this cycle could be broken. I also understand that this is a very specific scenario so the theory has little usefulness. But still nonetheless it's does have it's place. And is of some worth. Until a fully locked verizon 32 Toshiba is reported.
Most people would never think this far into it. So I'm sure it might sound crazy. And I'll admit that it kinda does. I had to retype it like 3x because it sounded way too out there. Lol.

No it sounds just fine. Great post.
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Mine was a 128gb black
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If you RMA through Google, they send you a brand new Google store phone. I did it to.get rid of.my VZW pixel

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If you RMA through Google, they send you a brand new Google store phone. I did it to.get rid of.my VZW pixel
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You did it why? If there was nothing wrong with the device other than you didn't like the locked bootloader you told them that and they replaced it?
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also curious..