After having issues with my camera and USB port, I have to get a replacement device from Verizon. I was pissed to have to do this because I used depixel8 to unlock my phone and the new one would be on 7.1.1 and locked. I booted up the device without the Sim card, just on the off chance I was on 7.1. It was on 7.1.1 and the oem unlock option was grayed out. After putting in my Verizon Sim, the option is now ungrayed and lets me flip it freely. Am I just lucky or what? I got the device through asurion and they said I would for sure get a Verizon variant
Yep, lucky ducky.
The weird thing is, the sim card is what flipped it from being grayed out to not. I threw a big fit with both Google and Verizon about not being able to use my phone for its designed purpose. What are the chances they changed it for me?
Probably slim to none, you got lucky like did the first time. the first return I got from Asurion was unlockable on 7.1.1, my replacement a month later due to a bad battery, was locked, but it was a BRAND NEW phone the second time, the first come in a Asurion box and was obviously a refurb, the second came in the retail box like if I just bought it from Verizon.
It's more the luck of the draw. I'm on my 4th pixel XL. One brand new one and 3 from warranty. #1 was locked and had Samsung memory. #2 unlocked with Toshiba memory. #3 locked with Samsung memory. #4 which is my current one is again unlocked again with Toshiba memory. Seems it's only the 32gb versions too. So they are definitely out there. I have yet to see this happen with the 128. I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say your current unlockable one has Toshiba memory. Just a hunch. Seems to be the common denominator.
It's not.
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It's not.
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Idk what this comment is referencing. What's not?
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Idk what this comment is referencing. What's not?
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The post immediately above the comment.
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The post immediately above the comment.
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So it's not luck of the draw? Or it's not only 32gb models? Or it's not because of Toshiba/Samsung memory?
See how just saying "it's not" with no context is a little confusing?
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I made a poll AWHILE ago trying to get somebody to show me a full unlocked Verizon variant (not depixeled) with Samsung memory. I have yet to see one. If anyone can show me one that's fine. I'm just saying so far every single fully unlocked Verizon pixel XL that I've seen or read about has had Toshiba memory. I'm not saying thats the reason they are unlockable...I'm saying that is the pattern I've seen. Ive been waiting to see one but have yet to.
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Jdpro how much and what brand does it say your memory is on the bootloader?
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I made a poll AWHILE ago trying to get somebody to show me a full unlocked Verizon variant (not depixeled) with Samsung memory. I have yet to see one. If anyone can show me one that's fine. I'm just saying so far every single fully unlocked Verizon pixel XL that I've seen or read about has had Toshiba memory. I'm not saying thats the reason they are unlockable...I'm saying that is the pattern I've seen. Ive been waiting to see one but have yet to.
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Jdpro how much and what brand does it say your memory is on the bootloader?
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If you search there was a memory thread a month or so ago and it has been dis proven. You'd have to search for it though. But think about your theory for a sec. If that were the case don't you think JCase would have said that at the outset? So basically what you are saying is that if you have Toshiba memory you can unlock the bootloader whereas if you have Samsung memory you cannot? Well anyway, as you were a part of that thread, here is the post I was referring to. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71459372&postcount=53
Just one further thing. Are you saying that *all* Google Pixels have Toshiba memory? Simply because they are all unlockable. I still think it's the IMEI but no one has confirmed.
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After having issues with my camera and USB port, I have to get a replacement device from Verizon. I was pissed to have to do this because I used depixel8 to unlock my phone and the new one would be on 7.1.1 and locked. I booted up the device without the Sim card, just on the off chance I was on 7.1. It was on 7.1.1 and the oem unlock option was grayed out. After putting in my Verizon Sim, the option is now ungrayed and lets me flip it freely. Am I just lucky or what? I got the device through asurion and they said I would for sure get a Verizon variant
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If you search there was a memory thread a month or so ago and it has been dis proven. You'd have to search for it though. But think about your theory for a sec. If that were the case don't you think JCase would have said that at the outset? So basically what you are saying is that if you have Toshiba memory you can unlock the bootloader whereas if you have Samsung memory you cannot? Well anyway, as you were a part of that thread, here is the post I was referring to. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71459372&postcount=53
Just one further thing. Are you saying that *all* Google Pixels have Toshiba memory? Simply because they are all unlockable. I still think it's the IMEI but no one has confirmed.
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I do remember that thread. I was speaking strictly in terms of Verizon 32gb models. From my personal experience and that I have read. To my best recollection I haven't seen a Verizon/32/Samsung that was unlocked without using depixel. And I haven't seen a Verizon/32/Toshiba that needed depixel to unlock. These have all been verified as Verizon variants by cid. I also never meant to imply that it was because of the memory. Just that the pattern so far seems to be if you have a verizon/32/Toshiba it's garenteed to be unlockable...I'd actually like for that theory to be disproven. I'd also genuinely like to see a Verizon/32/Samsung that's unlockable as easily as the play store version. That's all I was saying. I have no experience with the 128...there seems to be no common ground with those.
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I do remember that thread. I was speaking strictly in terms of Verizon 32gb models.
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I see. So you're basing it on empirical evidence which is all well and good and certainly interesting if it does fit a pattern. However, that really doesn't go to the method that Verizon uses to lock the bootloader option. Since the 128 does not fall in line with the locking/memory scenario then I can't see that the observation is anything other than that. Don't get me wrong, I find it intriguing but not of any great value for those that want to unlock the bl. Unless I'm missing something, which has been know to happen now and again.
As you witnessed in that thread there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason that is obvious. It was thought the CID, the Sim, IMEI etc. None of which panned out. I'm not looking to unlock my bootloader so this is all academic to me. But I certainly am curious.
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I see. So you're basing it on empirical evidence which is all well and good and certainly interesting if it does fit a pattern. However, that really doesn't go to the method that Verizon uses to lock the bootloader option. Since the 128 does not fall in line with the locking/memory scenario then I can't see that the observation is anything other than that. Don't get me wrong, I find it intriguing but not of any great value for those that want to unlock the bl. Unless I'm missing something, which has been know to happen now and again.
As you witnessed in that thread there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason that is obvious. It was thought the CID, the Sim, IMEI etc. None of which panned out. I'm not looking to unlock my bootloader so this is all academic to me. But I certainly am curious.
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This all definitely true. And that is all it is...just theory based on observation. And it doesn't really help to unlock the bootloader at all. But where it does/could come into play is if your looking to purchase say a used on on eBay. It's probable that you could find a cheap priced Verizon version. And say the seller doesn't realize the value of an unlockable one. Because they aren't part of the scene or for whatever reason. Then say because of the price it's a better deal than a play version IF it's unlockable. That's when you ask them to check memory manufacturer. Of course this would only work on 32gb versions. And there is always a slim chance that this cycle could be broken. I also understand that this is a very specific scenario so the theory has little usefulness. But still nonetheless it's does have it's place. And is of some worth. Until a fully locked verizon 32 Toshiba is reported.
Most people would never think this far into it. So I'm sure it might sound crazy. And I'll admit that it kinda does. I had to retype it like 3x because it sounded way too out there. Lol.
No it sounds just fine. Great post.
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If you RMA through Google, they send you a brand new Google store phone. I did it to.get rid of.my VZW pixel
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If you RMA through Google, they send you a brand new Google store phone. I did it to.get rid of.my VZW pixel
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You did it why? If there was nothing wrong with the device other than you didn't like the locked bootloader you told them that and they replaced it?
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I love my Evo. Main reason? Personalization, flashing custom roms, flashing fonts, etc. My knowledge of development ain't that great though and I'm wondering from those "in the know": Do you think we'll access root and be able to flash custom roms?
For me, this is the best tablet b/c it runs android. I don't mind the price, I just want to be able to do what I want to the device Opinions?
I wouldn't doubt it. In fact, I expect it. I don't think there are any android devices that haven't been rooted. Just have to give it time once it's released.
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I wouldn't doubt it. In fact, I expect it. I don't think there are any android devices that haven't been rooted. Just have to give it time once it's released.
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Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?
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Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?
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Ditto
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Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?
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That's about all it is. They shut down any access to the loader which means you can get around to install anything. Most of motos new phones are this way. Its a kick in the nards but it protects their hardware from stuff like overclocking and burning out stuff. And of course the occasional brick.
I hate it but I see the point. And I can see the xoom being locked....little expensive for them to have to keep taking back because a new rooter f'ed theirs up.
Hmmm. Though I don't see custom ROMs being as necessary, that actually gives me a touch of pause. I don't like to think that the life of the device can't be extended if Motorola created a XOOM 2 or something.
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Hmmm. Though I don't see custom ROMs being as necessary, that actually gives me a touch of pause. I don't like to think that the life of the device can't be extended if Motorola created a XOOM 2 or something.
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I don't think the hardware spec as is will get outdated anytime soon.
Well..outdated yes, regress into unusable for web, video and apps.. certainly not.
The device per the data sheet will still run things quite well as we know them now for a very long time.
Only thing yet to be really proven is how teg2 can handle intensive 3d functions in 'real world' scenarios.. and if you think Crysis will be better played on a tablet I have a bridge for sale.
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I don't think the hardware spec as is will get outdated anytime soon.
Well..outdated yes, regress into unusable for web, video and apps.. certainly not.
The device per the data sheet will still run things quite well as we know them now for a very long time.
Only thing yet to be really proven is how teg2 can handle intensive 3d functions in 'real world' scenarios.. and if you think Crysis will be better played on a tablet I have a bridge for sale.
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I know the hardware won't be outdated, I'm talking about all the obsolete android phones because their OEMs abandoned them and they never got FroYo. I think if it ends up being locked down I might have to utilize Best Buy's new return policy on the 28th day.
The Atrix has already been rooted:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/19/motorola-atrix-4g-already-rooted-and-its-not-even-out-yet/
I wouldn't be shock if Motorola backs off the boot loader block. Pretty funny huh. I was talking to the guys in best buy mobile and they claimed it was verizon that was locking down the boot loaders. Of course these are the same guys who were shocked when I told them I had a OC nook color w/ froyo and honeycomb.
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The Atrix has already been rooted:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/19/motorola-atrix-4g-already-rooted-and-its-not-even-out-yet/
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Until I see the bootloader rooted, I say meh.
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I wouldn't be shock if Motorola backs off the boot loader block. Pretty funny huh. I was talking to the guys in best buy mobile and they claimed it was verizon that was locking down the boot loaders. Of course these are the same guys who were shocked when I told them I had a OC nook color w/ froyo and honeycomb.
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Shame on you for talking to BB employees about anything technical. No hate, but most of them are morons.
It just makes me laugh when I talk to people like that. Being an electronics technician I do it sometimes just to see what chunks of stupid come out of their mouths.
Since the Xoom is intended to be the reference development tablet platform by Google, it should be easy to root and has an easy to unlock bootloader, just like the Nexus One and Nexus S.
That being said, Motorola is Motorola... so they may do their usual Motorola thing and encrypt everything up. But I think the chance that the Xoom is easy to mess around with is pretty high.
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Since the Xoom is intended to be the reference development tablet platform by Google, it should be easy to root and has an easy to unlock bootloader, just like the Nexus One and Nexus S.
That being said, Motorola is Motorola... so they may do their usual Motorola thing and encrypt everything up. But I think the chance that the Xoom is easy to mess around with is pretty high.
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This is what I'm banking on. But if it turns out being locked down. I will be sending an e-mail to Motorola and Google with a picture of my return receipt and an explanation.
I went to my local best buy today. I got there around noonish and I was the first and only person to pre order or even ask about the xoom.
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I went to my local best buy today. I got there around noonish and I was the first and only person to pre order or even ask about the xoom.
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Same with me. Infact im not even sure im going to get the damn thing. They were so unorganized and unprepared. I NEVER go on websites and do the ratings but for this i did. It was a horrible experience trying to get this thing pre ordered. 3 of the techs had to talk to each other to figure out what i was asking for. I didnt think the statement "i would like to pre order the motorola xoom" was all that confusing. I never shop at best buy but being as inpatient as i am i took the risk to get my hands on this thing as fast as possible. I just hope i get a call once they come in. As it looked im going to be the only call they have to make.
Did anyone else get a copy of their preorder or just a receipt?
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Same with me. Infact im not even sure im going to get the damn thing. They were so unorganized and unprepared. I NEVER go on websites and do the ratings but for this i did. It was a horrible experience trying to get this thing pre ordered. 3 of the techs had to talk to each other to figure out what i was asking for. I didnt think the statement "i would like to pre order the motorola xoom" was all that confusing. I never shop at best buy but being as inpatient as i am i took the risk to get my hands on this thing as fast as possible. I just hope i get a call once they come in. As it looked im going to be the only call they have to make.
Did anyone else get a copy of their preorder or just a receipt?
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All i got is my receipt that says Motorola Xoom pre order and I have that $50 gift card. I was the 4th to pre order
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All i got is my receipt that says Motorola Xoom pre order and I have that $50 gift card. I was the 4th to pre order
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Thats all i have also. The confusion among the techs had me skeptical. Hopefully my skepticism doesnt hold to be true.
Also praying for no locked bootloader. Hoping to be rooted within the first few days
All I got was the receipt and the gift card as well. Got to our BB ~1300 to place the order and was the first to actually place an order, as opposed to people asking questions about it. Course our BB is in a town of ~50,000 (metro area ~150,000) so I was a little concerned they would even get any in for Thursday, they say they are indeed due in this week.
Did see the preorder paperwork she filled out.
Like above, they didn't know what they were looking for. The girl found it without too much wait though.
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All I got was the receipt and the gift card as well. Got to our BB ~1300 to place the order and was the first to actually place an order, as opposed to people asking questions about it. Course our BB is in a town of ~50,000 (metro area ~150,000) so I was a little concerned they would even get any in for Thursday, they say they are indeed due in this week.
Did see the preorder paperwork she filled out.
Like above, they didn't know what they were looking for. The girl found it without too much wait though.
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Yep, ran into the same problem. The guy had no clue, the female was all over it. She knew exactly what I was asking for, went right to the pre-order sheet and got it done lickity split and she was hot to.
So I've started researching the Note 3 as of recently as a replacement to my S4. What's got me worried is all the talk about how Verizon has taken extra steps to lock down the Note 3. I know the talk isn't anything new since Verizon has consistently tried locking down our phones without success, however is there anything new to cause concern over this phone in particular? Are we confident that the Note on Verizon will receive root with s-off? Not having root would definitely be a deal breaker so I'd like to nail down the facts before I pull the trigger. Also another side question, what is the version number for the Verizon version? Thanks for any help provided!
Found the answer to my second question. The Verizon version model number will be model SM-N9005
That's the same lte model that they are already rooting overseas. The criteria being the bootloader is unlocked. I'll be around to supply cheer and encouragement
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Found the answer to my second question. The Verizon version model number will be model SM-N9005
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It will be
SM-N9005V
HA HA HA
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It will be
SM-N9005V
HA HA HA
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Isn't it SM-N900V?
See link also has Verizon.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/11/samsung-galaxy-note-3-reaches-the-fcc-in-att-and-sprint-forms/
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Ive been trying to keep up with the note 3 forums when they opened and they are rooted and do have custom roms but the bootloader has to be unlocked just to even get root through odin. Verizon will def be locking it down. Hopefully wont be too long before a dev cracks it because I need root!!!!!!!
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Ive been trying to keep up with the note 3 forums when they opened and they are rooted and do have custom roms but the bootloader has to be unlocked just to even get root through odin. Verizon will def be locking it down. Hopefully wont be too long before a dev cracks it because I need root!!!!!!!
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Bootloader is unlocked.. The first day I get my hands on it.. I have a tool that I have been using for the last 4 devices.. That unlocks the bootloader..
all verizon stuff..
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And I am sure it will work on the note 3 .. I have reached out to some high tech devs out here to help out on the recovery/rom .. Just waiting on some replys..
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Bootloader is unlocked.. The first day I get my hands on it.. I have a tool that I have been using for the last 4 devices.. That unlocks the bootloader..
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And I am sure it will work on the note 3 .. I have reached out to some high tech devs out here to help out on the recovery/rom .. Just waiting on some replys..
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Ah..yea ok...right...lol. Get a life!
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Ah..yea ok...right...lol. Get a life!
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@suzook what is your freaking problem. You're always a d bag if you don't believe someone.... You are the freaking reason xda is starting to suck because you have nothing but negative things to say!!!!!!!!!!!!! You did the same thing in EZ thread. So what if you don't believe him or he's lying. STOP BEING A FREAKING D BAG, THE WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD JUST OFF THEMSELVES!!!!
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@suzook what is your freaking problem. You're always a d bag if you don't believe someone.... You are the freaking reason xda is starting to suck because you have nothing but negative things to say!!!!!!!!!!!!! You did the same thing in EZ thread. So what if you don't believe him or he's lying. STOP BEING A FREAKING D BAG, THE WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD JUST OFF THEMSELVES!!!!
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Im not a Dbag.....I KNOW FOR A FACT the bl is NOT UNLOCKED. Do i wish it was??? ABSOLUTELY!
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Im not a Dbag.....I KNOW FOR A FACT the bl is NOT UNLOCKED. Do i wish it was??? ABSOLUTELY!
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I'm just taking a stab in the dark here, but.... I own a Verizon Galaxy s4, and... we definitely don't have an unlocked boot-loader...
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Im not a Dbag.....I KNOW FOR A FACT the bl is NOT UNLOCKED. Do i wish it was??? ABSOLUTELY!
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Guys. Please dont start in here.. thanks. Just fyi I have alot of people behind me in this project. I sent out the memo to them last night. How I am going to get the bootloader unlocked.. We are just waiting on the device to land in are lap. I had order 2 of them. To play with. The second one is there if the first one fails. Which I hope it don't. So just hang in there suzook. Please.
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I'm just taking a stab in the dark here, but.... I own a Verizon Galaxy s4, and... we definitely don't have an unlocked boot-loader...
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Right! We keep getting these ridiculous posts about "when will the the n3 be released" and crazy lies about the bl being unlocked already. People need to wake up and realize there IS NO UNLOCKED BL! If there was the s4 would have it. And another thing...its being released OCTOBER 10TH!
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Guys. Please dont start in here.. thanks. Just fyi I have alot of people behind me in this project. I sent out the memo to them last night. How I am going to get the bootloader unlocked.. We are just waiting on the device to land in are lap. I had order 2 of them. To play with. The second one is there if the first one fails. Which I hope it don't. So just hang in there suzook. Please.
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OH BOY..here we go again. Does anyone see the pattern with this guy? This is the same person who claimed vz was shipping out on the 29th. Well...here we are still waiting. Oh, he also claimed an unlocked BL....Now in his comments he has one unlocked, but the other is not...this is his way of claiming they changed how the BL is locked. Ban this troll.
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Right! We keep getting these ridiculous posts about "when will the the n3 be released" and crazy lies about the bl being unlocked already. People need to wake up and realize there IS NO UNLOCKED BL! If there was the s4 would have it. And another thing...its being released OCTOBER 10TH!
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OH BOY..here we go again. Does anyone see the pattern with this guy? This is the same person who claimed vz was shipping out on the 29th. Well...here we are still waiting. Oh, he also claimed an unlocked BL....Now in his comments he has one unlocked, but the other is not...this is his way of claiming they changed how the BL is locked. Ban this troll.
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This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.
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This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.
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Im not a pessimist, but a realist. Everyone needs to accept there is NO BL unlock. Why start rumors? Thats all they are without PROOF. All it does it make pointless threads.
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Im not a pessimist, but a realist. Everyone needs to accept there is NO BL unlock. Why start rumors? Thats all they are without PROOF. All it does it make pointless threads.
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All I'm saying is you can't see the future, until the phones are released and we give him a chance we can't say if his post was pointless :highfive: lets be friends
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This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.
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I wish I could hit that thanks button 1000 times. Well spoken. . Thanks again. . (1001) now..
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This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.
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Verizon rep is full of it. All it takes is a simple email saying you are going to be charged a week early or whatever and if you wish to wait till 10/10 please call such and such and boom done. It was never early everybody speculated there was no proof of early release. Let me go back to bestbuy where I was yesterday talking to inventory guys and Samsung rep with road map and had 10/10 so anybody saying before is a straight up liar.
And the rude posts!?!? Are you kidding? Dude posts for sure they are shipping 9/29 & unlocked bootloader & then closes thread before he "talks" to Verizon. Yeah right. Now this unlocked crap he is full of it.
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Im not a pessimist, but a realist. Everyone needs to accept there is NO BL unlock. Why start rumors? Thats all they are without PROOF. All it does it make pointless threads.
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Amen. Nothing without proof. Somebody I believe asked for proof of unlocked bootloader info and he refused. I want proof for anything anymore. I like you man. Atta boy suzook
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Verizon rep is full of it. All it takes is a simple email saying you are going to be charged a week early or whatever and if you wish to wait till 10/10 please call such and such and boom done. It was never early everybody speculated there was no proof of early release. Let me go back to bestbuy where I was yesterday talking to inventory guys and Samsung rep with road map and had 10/10 so anybody saying before is a straight up liar.
And the rude posts!?!? Are you kidding? Dude posts for sure they are shipping 9/29 & unlocked bootloader & then closes thread before he "talks" to Verizon. Yeah right. Now this unlocked crap he is full of it.
Amen. Nothing without proof. Somebody I believe asked for proof of unlocked bootloader info and he refused. I want proof for anything anymore. I like you man. Atta boy suzook
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Suzook and I found a common ground, I understand where he's coming from and he understood my point. We can not predict the future.... EZ closed his thread because he was tired of you guys treating him like Sh.. for no reason.. If sockmonkey posted right now he has a unsecure bootloader for the note 3 you would call b.s.... but he is the same guy who released the bootloader for the s3... my point is until the guy proves he's full of it, give him a break...
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Suzook and I found a common ground, I understand where he's coming from and he understood my point. We can not predict the future.... EZ closed his thread because he was tired of you guys treating him like Sh.. for no reason.. If sockmonkey posted right now he has a unsecure bootloader for the note 3 you would call b.s.... but he is the same guy who released the bootloader for the s3... my point is until the guy proves he's full of it, give him a break...
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Well we will see soon enough and proof would be nice
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All 3 of my Note 7's are going back!
I'm curious to see how big we can get this thread and I hope it makes a statement.
Dumb T-mobile...becoming ATT and Verizon. Actually with the S7 and Note 7 stunt with locking the bootloader, they have...
Such a shame. We bought the phone so it should be ours 100% to do what we want with it. Wth is this? A lease program you're pulling?
Sorry, but I along with many others will not fall victim to your rubbish tactics. I will not be a slave to your proprietary bs.
Who's with me?
Not everyone uses Samsung Pay. No excuses can justify being okay with the fact of not having full control over a device we pay for. It's straight up communist.
I'm solving the issue by not buying one. Period. As much as I love the phone, I will wait to see the new Nexux.
Did anyone expect it to be unlocked? Lol
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Rydah805 said:
Did anyone expect it to be unlocked? Lol
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Lol, expected? Not really, that'd be a fantasy after seeing the S7. However, it could have been and having that sliver of hope is / was realistic. Reality? Obviously not the case.
Not saying it'll happen, but this isn't the first time we've been in this position with being faced with the impossible.
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Did anyone expect it to be unlocked? Lol
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Yes I am seriously surprised at the number of people that thought it wouldn't be locked. It is like the whole S7 release all over again but this time anyone familiar with Samsung and especially members of XDA should have not been surprised at all.
Although i dont care about such things, i do think Samsung should unlock the bootloader. Once the phone is fully payed off you should have that option. I dont think anyone on a plan like Jump should have the option because those phones get refurbished and if anyone else has ever bought a rooted phone off Craigslist knows the pain when the seller messed up there phone and now is trying to pawn it off on someone else. Or maybe they put all phones that have the bootloader unlocked on a special list made to the public so people like me can avoid thise phones
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I'm returning mine just because the difference between the note 7 and s7 edge is negligible. Not for $850
chipworkz said:
Yes I am seriously surprised at the number of people that thought it wouldn't be locked. It is like the whole S7 release all over again but this time anyone familiar with Samsung and especially members of XDA should have not been surprised at all.
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The word, "surprised" would only be valid to some, but to most of the enthusiasts, it's not really that we're surprised, it's just that with the international variant (SD820's being offered in markets where there is no Samsung Pay) and with the out cry of the S7, it's not unreasonable to have had a little hope for the Note 7. Long shot? Uh yea, of course...but like I've said, this isn't the first time at the rodeo where we've been faced with the impossible; that became possible in due time.
Come on guys... Seriously? I love rooting and tinkering just as much as anyone... But you are returning all 3 because the bootloader is locked? I'm amazed you bought them in the first place if this is a deal breaker.
If 1000 phones go back they lose a million dollars...Mine will be one of them as well.... If we stuck together in the first place they would HAVE to listen....Lock Bootloaders...whatever, but give us that want a solution one...Unlock for the Root Community...the most creative and die hard enthusiast deserve better than this
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Lets start another petition...and fight for our right to Root!
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DionWhite33 said:
If 1000 phones go back they lose a million dollars...Mine will be one of them as well.... If we stuck together in the first place they would HAVE to listen....Lock Bootloaders...whatever, but give us that want a solution one...Unlock for the Root Community...the most creative and die hard enthusiast deserve better than this
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Lets start another petition...and fight for our right to Root!
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No not really, that is a potential lose but in actuality they will just go into the refurbished pool. 1000 phones is still nothing out of the 25+ million phones they will sell. That is based just on the Q2 sales numbers of the S7 \ S7E. The 1000 phones is only 0.004 % of 25 million phones.
Also returns are just part of everyday business and expected. Unless the return rate was a high percentage, it is just normal business to them.
Unfortunately our numbers and desires mean nothing to them compared to their own...
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chipworkz said:
No not really, that is a potential lose but in actuality they will just go into the refurbished pool. 1000 phones is still nothing out of the 25+ million phones they will sell. That is based just on the Q2 sales numbers of the S7 \ S7E. The 1000 phones is only 0.004 % of 25 million phones.
Also returns are just part of everyday business and expected. Unless the return rate was a high percentage, it is just normal business to them.
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I know...just felt good to say...
Why can't we just flash the unlocked w8 bootloader? N5 was always interchangeable, and w8 is also sd820, so why not? Someone should try...they may have left us an out...
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DionWhite33 said:
I know...just felt good to say...
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lol I know man, this is how I felt when I got the S7E. I said I was done with Samsung and would never buy a locked down phone. Well here I am with my Note7 knowing it was locked. I would prefer to have the option to root and flash custom roms if I wanted to but I decided to just stay stock which is why I was fine buying the phone.
There just isn't another phone out or soon to be out from what I have seen to match this. I am still keeping the Note5 for the wife so if I really get the itch to flash something, I can always do it on that one.
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Come on guys... Seriously? I love rooting and tinkering just as much as anyone... But you are returning all 3 because the bootloader is locked? I'm amazed you bought them in the first place if this is a deal breaker.
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I would have waited to see if it was locked before I bought it.
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Rx8Driver said:
Why can't we just flash the unlocked w8 bootloader? N5 was always interchangeable, and w8 is also sd820, so why not? Someone should try...they may have left us an out...
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I am sure there is more to it than that but it is a different scenario than what we had with the S7. I would think that this is the most likelihood of the T-Mobile version getting unlocked. BUT with the reports of the F model getting the update that locked down it's bootloader, I think there is a good chance that they will all be locked down before long.
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I am sure there is more to it than that but it is a different scenario than what we had with the S7. I would think that this is the most likelihood of the T-Mobile version getting unlocked. BUT with the reports of the F model getting the update that locked down it's bootloader, I think there is a good chance that they will all be locked down before long.
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If this will work now that's all we need...flash the bootloader from w8 and don't take any ota updates...they can't force us to update...
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Rx8Driver said:
If this will work now that's all we need...flash the bootloader from w8 and don't take any ota updates...they can't force us to update...
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True, once rooted the update can't be forced. The value of the rooted phones could really go up since the supply will start to dwindle.
My DM with a T-Mobile rep.
Any chance you can ask them to list the actual bands the phone supports?
I'm glad I'll be the recipient of the Exynos (unlocked) version. However i can get with the whole security aspect in regards to Google wallet & Samsung Pay/android pay. Like you mentioned though i NEVER and will EVER use this service, it gets disabled from the moment i get the phone (plus my bank doesn't support it anyway lol).
You pay a premium it should be up to the user as to what he does and yes what he/she risks.
I am very much against taking away the option of root and custom ROMs because of a service being forced upon us.
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Duncan1982 said:
I'm glad I'll be the recipient of the Exynos (unlocked) version. However i can get with the whole security aspect in regards to Google wallet & Samsung Pay/android pay. Like you mentioned though i NEVER and will EVER use this service, it gets disabled from the moment i get the phone (plus my bank doesn't support it anyway lol).
You pay a premium it should be up to the user as to what he does and yes what he/she risks.
I am very much against taking away the option of root and custom ROMs because of a service being forced upon us.
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I second being against them taking away root and ROMs and forcing services upon us. If there was less or no fragmentation in android with regards to updates, I could perhaps stay stock..
lightninbug said:
My DM with a T-Mobile rep.
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LOL! Sorry but, how old are you? I'm as disappointed as anyone, but you're acting like a child. You think that because YOU'VE been with T-Mobile "since VoiceStream" T-Mobile should change their decision? Ridiculous. The guy you were talking to can't help you, cannot make any executive decisions and sure as hell isn't passing along your "concerns" to Legere. He also doesn't give a damn that you're cancelling a whopping THREE (3!!!) device orders. Did you think he was going to crumble to his knees, beg you to keep your orders and run tell boss, "we must change our bootloader plans because Mr. VoiceStream is simply NOT having it?"
You were just whining to yourself while he typed, "I understand how you feel" and rubbed your shoulders a bit.
Agreed, complaining to a underpaid rep that probably hates listening to people complain all day everyday is not going to get bootloaders unlocked.
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Agreed, complaining to a underpaid rep that probably hates listening to people complain all day everyday is not going to get bootloaders unlocked.
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Yet people still complain lol.
You know the bootloader is locked before you buy the device. Deal with it and move on.
Edit: not aimed towards you. Just saying in general of the complainers lol
Chainfire already finds a solution
aydinbahadir88 said:
Chainfire already finds a solution
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Source?
Z51 said:
Yet people still complain lol.
You know the bootloader is locked before you buy the device. Deal with it and move on.
Edit: not aimed towards you. Just saying in general of the complainers lol
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^ This.
I also love how the op states he is speaking for the users/devs on XDA.....errr, no you aint!! lol
aydinbahadir88 said:
Chainfire already finds a solution
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For realz???
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aydinbahadir88 said:
Chainfire already finds a solution
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LMAO...Yea, sure he did.
Useless thread. This is not a surprise and is something we already knew.
I ordered two from TMo and I'm sure that a root method will pop up soon after release.
Motorola had bootlocks on the Bionic and it was still able to be rooted. I bet within a month we'll be rooting with the rest of them.:good::good:
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My DM with a T-Mobile rep.
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Samsung has officially lost by business. Been a samsung guy since the S3 and I've stuck with them in the years since. It's such a shame that they choose to do this. I don't need Samsung pay, as I have a wallet. Awful that they force these programs down our throats as they're nice to have but are completely unnecessary.
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I ordered two from TMo and I'm sure that a root method will pop up soon after release.
Motorola had bootlocks on the Bionic and it was still able to be rooted. I bet within a month we'll be rooting with the rest of them.:good::good:
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The Galaxy S7 came out in March and it took three months to even figure out how to root it. We don't even have a bootloader unlock for the GS7, and it's been a year since it's release. Might want to lower your expectations as devs are moving away from locked down devices like the Galaxy series in the U.S.
Wow this is like posting water is wet.
I stopped rooting my phones, but I'm still against taking away the option. I just never could pull the trigger on losing Samsung Pay permanently.
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Wow this is like posting water is wet.
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Hahaha how true [emoji106]
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*GASP!!* I'm glad you pointed that out....
sireniankyle said:
I stopped rooting my phones, but I'm still against taking away the option. I just never could pull the trigger on losing Samsung Pay permanently.
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I'm in the same boat as you. Unsure of what to do for the foreseeable future. Also KNOX. I actually do care about tripping it. The email app my company uses breaks if KNOX is tripped....
Bootloader Unlock on Pixel and Pixel XL "New Method" on all Android Versions
Hi Guys !
Smail From Morocco
I have found a way to get the Greyed out OEM UNLOCKING off and make it active. So we can enable it and unlock the bootloader easy !
This method has been TESTED on Both Pixel and Pixel XL. Also it doesn't matter what Android version You have
" 7.0 to 8.1.0 ".
The Reason why i will NOT release this publicly is GOOGLE. it looks like im having a COLD WAR with them ! because of some older reported BUGS but it seems like they don't care even when my bugs got patched.
Okay so here are some pictures about the status of the OEM UNLOCKING Before and After !
If you are not releasing it why did you even make a thread about it? Seems fake and for attention.
Bro, there's a bounty thread in the pixel 2 forum, there's something around $1,550, if you want money why don't you just share your results there? It looks like a scam.
gimme the link to the thread.
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gimme the link to the thread.
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I'm sure most everyone in the bounty thread will cough up the money once it's verified to work. Now if you unlock before you get paid that's fine. However you want to play it. Do it for free and collect the bounty or pay as you go.
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ismailaba said:
Hi Guys !
Smail From Morocco
I have found a way to get the Greyed out OEM UNLOCKING off and make it active. So we can enable it and unlock the bootloader easy !
This method has been TESTED on Both Pixel and Pixel XL. Also it doesn't matter what Android version You have
" 7.0 to 8.1.0 ".
The Reason why i will NOT release this publicly is GOOGLE. it looks like im having a COLD WAR with them ! because of some older reported BUGS but it seems like they don't care even when my bugs got patched.
Okay so here are some pictures about the status of the OEM UNLOCKING Before and After !
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why even make a thread if your dancing around the deal..... cmon man.... some of us really need root and are willing to pay! dont play with us!
Ok I'm just an average Joe and this is not a joke.. I just did it.. take a look.. I ha e been a member here for years.. he just helps.
I was unprepared to really take a bunch of pics but I don't have any reason to lie. Pixel XL is now unlocked on my way to custom love.... ??
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Ok I'm just an average Joe and this is not a joke.. I just did it.. take a look.. I ha e been a member here for years.. he just helps.
I was unprepared to really take a bunch of pics but I don't have any reason to lie. Pixel XL is now unlocked on my way to custom love....
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You photos are not showing up. I don't think you can hotlink files from drive like that. Personally I use postimg.org
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You photos are not showing up. I don't think you can hotlink files from drive like that. Personally I use postimg.org
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I know this site is finicky for trying to get pics posted.
Verizon bootloader unlocked Oreo https://imgur.com/gallery/bbihu
That's the best proof I have.
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Ok I'm just an average Joe and this is not a joke.. I just did it.. take a look.. I ha e been a member here for years.. he just helps.
I was unprepared to really take a bunch of pics but I don't have any reason to lie. Pixel XL is now unlocked on my way to custom love....
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Just curious how you did it if he hasn't released the exploit? Did he use you as a tester?
znel52 said:
Just curious how you did it if he hasn't released the exploit? Did he use you as a tester?
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Because it doesn't exist, which is most likely why his account is disabled.
Red flags:
- relatively new account
- no interest in collecting bounty for work
- managed to find test numerous devices to possibly brick in testing
- the people who vouch for him are also new members****
- why start NUMEROUS "I did XXX but can't post it because of XXX" threads... It has never stopped organizations in releasing the exploit. This isn't the first one of his. The other ones ended up being false with the threads locked.
If you're going to trust someone with that kind of security exploit on your device, be careful. In the past, there has been root programs that gathered device data. Sound like a scam to gather device data such as your IMEI.
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Because it doesn't exist, which is most likely why his account is disabled.
Red flags:
- relatively new account
- no interest in collecting bounty for work
- managed to find test numerous devices to possibly brick in testing
- the people who vouch for him are also new members
- why start NUMEROUS "I did XXX but can't post it because of XXX" threads... It has never stopped organizations in releasing the exploit. This isn't the first one of his. The other ones ended up being false with the threads locked.
If you're going to trust someone with that kind of security exploit on your device, be careful. In the past, there has been root programs that gathered device data.
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Heyo. Just wanted to chime in here. I'm not a new member. I've been around here for a while (though not posting). I contacted Smail today to give this a shot. I was very skeptical, like everyone else. We chatted on FB for a bit, then I sent him my TeamViewer info, he connected, signed into his Flexihub account on my PC, then disconnected the TeamViewer. Continued via FB, he had me do a few things on the phone, and *poof* the option was enabled. I toggled it, rebooted to bootloader, was able to unlock with no issues. Holy crap it worked.
As of yet I haven't sent him any money, but I definitely plan on it. This guy is the real thing. The reason he was banned was mods accused him of selling services, even though he was only operating on donations. I get where they're coming from, but still.
He only uses TeamViewer to log into the Flexihub software (which is used for connecting to USB devices over a network).
I can also attest that his method works. He connected through teamviewer and logged into Flexihub and walked me through a factory reset and developer options and enabling usb debugging and soon i was able to toggle my oem unlock and was able to unlock my bootloader. I also must admit i was super skeptical and when it worked I almost fell out my chair because from my standpoint it was easy.
This is interesting... I've been unlocked since the depixel8 exploit but this could be big
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Heyo. Just wanted to chime in here. I'm not a new member. I've been around here for a while (though not posting). I contacted Smail today to give this a shot. I was very skeptical, like everyone else. We chatted on FB for a bit, then I sent him my TeamViewer info, he connected, signed into his Flexihub account on my PC, then disconnected the TeamViewer. Continued via FB, he had me do a few things on the phone, and *poof* the option was enabled. I toggled it, rebooted to bootloader, was able to unlock with no issues. Holy crap it worked.
As of yet I haven't sent him any money, but I definitely plan on it. This guy is the real thing. The reason he was banned was mods accused him of selling services, even though he was only operating on donations. I get where they're coming from, but still.
He only uses TeamViewer to log into the Flexihub software (which is used for connecting to USB devices over a network).
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I can also vouch for him. I've been around for awhile too, since the HTC Eris days, just don't post much. The experience here was the same for me. Took 15 min tops. I will also be donating something to him for his work, unreleased or not, it works.
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this is just too funny
This is bull crap. I offered $20 bucks for video proof, not unlock service. And he rejected the offer.
I am so confused... Lol. Can mods please take this down?
Curious on how people found him on Facebook with just a first name