Database Users

Are there two variants of the Sprint S4 and is there...

and is anyone experiencing any lag? I seem to get more than normal. I've had it two weeks and now considering to get an HTC One....

Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.

mmmajor said:
Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I agree. I hope there is an update soon. Rooting it does make a difference in speed though. But I don't really want to keep it rooted unless I have to.

mmmajor said:
Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's very very weird. I have used both plenty. And the S4 is plenty faster then the One. I went onto AOSP right away tho on my S4 so that might be it. All the people complaining about lag were on the original shipped out software on the phone. From what I have read though, the latest update to TW fixed all the lag. And it's not that they didn't optimize the software, it was only the first week of the phone being out give them a break.
And anyways, on Stock my phone runs u believably fast with literally not a sliver of lag :/ I've owned every Galaxy and my best friend has owned quite a few of the latest HTC devices, IMHO only thing The One arguably has on the S4 is build quality, and that's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think the One is a big clunk of metal and I actually love the build of the S4, didn't like the S3 but they squared it out with the S4.
Ooops sorry about the rant. And not trying to start a competition or flame war about the devices, both are top end and great phones, every one loves what they love, and what I love has nothing to do with what you want.. As long as your happy with your device who cares.
But really just throw on the latest update or try AOSP, running Slimbean right now absolutely flawlessly.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app

I have both as well and the S4 is faster in my testing to. I have no lag either. I took the One back and gor another S4 and gave to my wife.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

inlineboy said:
That's very very weird. I have used both plenty. And the S4 is plenty faster then the One. I went onto AOSP right away tho on my S4 so that might be it. All the people complaining about lag were on the original shipped out software on the phone. From what I have read though, the latest update to TW fixed all the lag. And it's not that they didn't optimize the software, it was only the first week of the phone being out give them a break.
And anyways, on Stock my phone runs u believably fast with literally not a sliver of lag :/ I've owned every Galaxy and my best friend has owned quite a few of the latest HTC devices, IMHO only thing The One arguably has on the S4 is build quality, and that's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think the One is a big clunk of metal and I actually love the build of the S4, didn't like the S3 but they squared it out with the S4.
Ooops sorry about the rant. And not trying to start a competition or flame war about the devices, both are top end and great phones, every one loves what they love, and what I love has nothing to do with what you want.. As long as your happy with your device who cares.
But really just throw on the latest update or try AOSP, running Slimbean right now absolutely flawlessly.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Keep in mind that after I rooted it, there was no lag but I returned it to stock. Thereby the lag returned. You say that there was an update. How would I know if I received the update? It's likely that I received it already and still experiencing the lag. It's also likely the other poster may have received the update as well.

heyjoojoo said:
Keep in mind that after I rooted it, there was no lag but I returned it to stock. Thereby the lag returned. You say that there was an update. How would I know if I received the update? It's likely that I received it already and still experiencing the lag. It's also likely the other poster may have received the update as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Simply getting root access shouldn't change levels of lag or the lack of it. Is that all you did, root it?
Check your firmware version in about phone, the latest is MDL, its still rolling out so if your still having lag that's most likely why.
If you don't know that you received it. You didn't. A notification pops up saying a system update is available and you have to click and click accept the update. It doesn't just update itself.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

Mine was extremely laggy, I was contemplating taking it back and getting my One back that I turned in for the s4 because of it then I came on here and found about the update that is apparently semi hidden because you have to clear Google frameworks app data to get it but after the update my phone Flys almost as fast as the One...... It is noticeably faster than before the update
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.

carnivalrejectq said:
Mine was extremely laggy, I was contemplating taking it back and getting my One back that I turned in for the s4 because of it then I came on here and found about the update that is apparently semi hidden because you have to clear Google frameworks app data to get it but after the update my phone Flys almost as fast as the One...... It is noticeably faster than before the update
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does anyone know if the update breaks root and or the boatloader?
Sent from my Galaxy S4 on Sprint using XDA Premium

heyjoojoo said:
Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The person was strictly talking about rooting not installing a ROM. Which is true all rooting does is open up your device for total control of the phone, from there you can do many things to help with the lag, but just rooting wouldn't affect lag. Not everyone installs a ROM after rooting.
Sent from my SPH-L720

If you have lag than you dont have the update.....and yes the update will give you trouble with root. But there are workarounds...... I personally unrooted to get the update. Going to run this for a bit until my next move....
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

heyjoojoo said:
Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You misunderstood me. I didn't say anything about tweaks, flashing roms, kernels, or anything. I said root, referring to simply giving yourself superuser access.
That has nothing anything performance wise. It's just granting yourself root access. So when you said your performance and lag changed when you rooted, I was under the impression you only rooted. You didn't say you flashed a different rom and it was faster, just that you rooted.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

inlineboy said:
You misunderstood me. I didn't say anything about tweaks, flashing roms, kernels, or anything. I said root, referring to simply giving yourself superuser access.
That has nothing anything performance wise. It's just granting yourself root access. So when you said your performance and lag changed when you rooted, I was under the impression you only rooted. You didn't say you flashed a different rom and it was faster, just that you rooted.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?

heyjoojoo said:
Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Look at your build number the newest version ends in mdl. No offense but how do you know how to root and ROM but don't know how to look at what build number you are on.
Sent from my SPH-L720

heyjoojoo said:
Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I said check version in "About Phone"! If your on MDC, its probably why, MDL seemed to fix all the issues with any lag anyone was having!
Either way, you still have access to the AOSP roms which are running great right now, and Team Venum is going to be coming out with some great TW roms this weekendish so look out for those!
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

GiantJay said:
Look at your build number the newest version ends in mdl. No offense but how do you know how to root and ROM but don't know how to look at what build number you are on.
Sent from my SPH-L720
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How would one determine that MDL is the "latest" build? There is no date associated with those letters.

heyjoojoo said:
How would one determine that MDL is the "latest" build? There is no date associated with those letters.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your right. But that is a code for the date. M=2013 d=4th month April L= day of month 12th
Sent from my SPH-L720

GiantJay said:
Your right. But that is a code for the date. M=2013 d=4th month April L= day of month 12th
Sent from my SPH-L720
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Huh?

heyjoojoo said:
Huh?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He's answering your question. Mdl is tje latest. Sammy used tje letter as build dates. M=2013 d=April and l=day of month.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda premium

New S4

I was going to upgrade tomorrow. The guy at the store said they got a shipment of S4s two days ago. Does anyone know if the devices are shipping with MF3 yet? Anyone who got a new one recently have any info?
Also, if it doesn't have MF3, do I have to do anything to keep it from installing? I saw some people saying not to use the phone til I'm home and can root it and freeze the update app. They claim the upgrade will automatically happen without my consent. Other people claim the upgrade requires user approval.
Thanks guys, I really want root so this is a deal breaker for me The guy at the store assured me all phones get updates when I asked if they were up to date. I didn't want to elaborate I didn't want that though haha.

blastagator said:
I was going to upgrade tomorrow. The guy at the store said they got a shipment of S4s two days ago. Does anyone know if the devices are shipping with MF3 yet? Anyone who got a new one recently have any info?
Also, if it doesn't have MF3, do I have to do anything to keep it from installing? I saw some people saying not to use the phone til I'm home and can root it and freeze the update app. They claim the upgrade will automatically happen without my consent. Other people claim the upgrade requires user approval.
Thanks guys, I really want root so this is a deal breaker for me The guy at the store assured me all phones get updates when I asked if they were up to date. I didn't want to elaborate I didn't want that though haha.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are fortunate enough to get an S4 with AMDL firmware, then I'd root it and freeze the AT&T updater with Titanium Backup. Keep in mind, you'll probably want to flash a custom rom because the stock AT&T software is so laggy it almost makes the device unusable.

MattMJB0188 said:
If you are fortunate enough to get an S4 with AMDL firmware
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't plan on buying it if it doesn't. I just want to make sure it stays that way. I don't want to drive home, pull it out of my pocket, and discovered it auto-updated or some other horrible thing.

blastagator said:
I don't plan on buying it if it doesn't. I just want to make sure it stays that way. I don't want to drive home, pull it out of my pocket, and discovered it auto-updated or some other horrible thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think it can automatically update unless you agree to it. But be careful with the very clueless at&t reps, because they might actually update your phone for you.

Check the box. It will show the firmware revision number right on it. I recently got my replacement through Asurion, and it was MDL.
And yeah, like the others said, don't let him/her update the phone. They may wish to place test calls, but as soon as you have it in-hand, just turn off Mobile Data and the WiFi. You don't need those to place test calls.

Thanks. I have 14 days to bring it back even if things go horribly wrong. However, I am trading in my Infuse which I won't be able to get back. So I'm not sure what I'd do if I had to go down that road.
Aou said:
Check the box.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks!
I'll report back tomorrow. To confirm: MDL and MDB are both good, MF3 is bad?

Aou said:
Check the box. It will show the firmware revision number right on it. I recently got my replacement through Asurion, and it was MDL.
And yeah, like the others said, don't let him/her update the phone. They may wish to place test calls, but as soon as you have it in-hand, just turn off Mobile Data and the WiFi. You don't need those to place test calls.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is correct. Says it right under SGH-i337. Mine says: SW-VER: i337UCUAMDL

I am using hox and i will change it to the s4 cuz i would like to change my battery.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 4 Beta

blastagator said:
Thanks. I have 14 days to bring it back even if things go horribly wrong. However, I am trading in my Infuse which I won't be able to get back. So I'm not sure what I'd do if I had to go down that road.
Thanks!
I'll report back tomorrow. To confirm: MDL and MDB are both good, MF3 is bad?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct. MDL and MDB are fine, but if your on MDB I am not sure if the update for MDL will come through. MDB was absolutely horrible, beyond horrible actually. Everything lagged, everything was choppy, and the modem sucked. MDL was an improvement, but nothing drastic. I hear MF3 is really good, it just kills root and loki.

MattMJB0188 said:
Correct. MDL and MDB are fine, but if your on MDB I am not sure if the update for MDL will come through. MDB was absolutely horrible, beyond horrible actually. Everything lagged, everything was choppy, and the modem sucked. MDL was an improvement, but nothing drastic. I hear MF3 is really good, it just kills root and loki.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is possible to manually use Odin to get up to MDL version. Let it be known that the MF3 patch will check to be sure you are on MDL at least, so I can't see that they would pull that OTA any time soon.
As a last resort, I have a copy of the MDL update that you could theoretically just flash with a custom recovery.

ROM Suggestions? I'm prepping for tomorrow's surgery. Speed would be number one priority. Also I like lockscreen clock and % battery in the top bar. Other than that, I'm not picky.
I eyeballed goldeneye but it doesn't seem to have % battery, and it retains TW, which most people seem to dislike?

Be wary of speed. It's the enemy and number one culprit of many problems here on xda. If you're device is running MDL, simply make sure it is charged and pull the sim. Then begin your rooting, etc. Check out the I337 guide in my signature. All steps are important.
Touchwiz roms are in Android development, aosp roms are in original Android development. Cheers

xBeerdroiDx said:
Be wary of speed. It's the enemy and number one culprit of many problems here on xda. If you're device is running MDL, simply make sure it is charged and pull the sim. Then begin your rooting, etc. Check out the I337 guide in my signature. All steps are important.
Touchwiz roms are in Android development, aosp roms are in original Android development. Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah sorry, speed of the ROM and thus my phone. I'm not trying to rush through the steps and brick my phone ; )

I got my s4 today via best buy and no mf3
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

I updated mine and am pretty content with it. It is much smoother than the original software and the phone overall works great. I guess if you want an unlocked s4 you need to buy the Google one or a Canada one if possible.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app

Please read forum rules before posting
Questions and Help issues go in Q&A and Help section
Thread moved
Thank you for your cooperation
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator

kennyglass123 said:
Please read forum rules before posting
Questions and Help issues go in Q&A and Help section
Thread moved
Thank you for your cooperation
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whoops, sorry!
In case anyone is curious, the ATT store told me they got this batch in a couple days ago, and they were all MDL.

blastagator said:
Whoops, sorry!
In case anyone is curious, the ATT store told me they got this batch in a couple days ago, and they were all MDL.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congrats!!! Root it before you put your sim card.
Check this root method out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297033

MattMJB0188 said:
Congrats!!! Root it before you put your sim card.
Check this root method out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297033
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Super noob friendly : )

blastagator said:
I used : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Super noob friendly : )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That'll work. Try out the rom GoldenEye

[Q] Root Before Activation?

My wife and I likely upgrading our phone's in the next week, maybe sooner. Getting her an S4, and myself likely the Note II.
I was wondering that if I had the phones mailed me, etc. Can I root the device before it is activated?

I don't see why not so long as you remain on a stock ROM
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

Personally i would get them activated first then root just in case you ran into any problems.

I would wait. Sometimes activation forces a hard reset (especially if you call Sprint when hands-free won't work) and therefore you'd be starting from scratch all over again.

Esoteric68 said:
I would wait. Sometimes activation forces a hard reset (especially if you call Sprint when hands-free won't work) and therefore you'd be starting from scratch all over again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah this is what happened to me when I activated online with them. Wasn't expecting it but at least only had it for all of a hour so could not do much lol
Sent from my SPH-L720

Questions go in Q&A
Thread moved
FNM

Ok, thanks guys,
I just didn't know if it would matter or benefit to root first before activation. So I guess I'll just active them first and then root.
Any recommended Rom's for the Spring S4?

ptmuldoon said:
Ok, thanks guys,
I just didn't know if it would matter or benefit to root first before activation. So I guess I'll just active them first and then root.
Any recommended Rom's for the Spring S4?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Currently running Sac's custom rom. I love it so far. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359590 Using it with the KT kernel.
If your looking for non TW liquidsmooth looks great. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347002

+1 for Sacs rom
Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2

xxwckdxx said:
+1 for Sacs rom
Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, guys.. Looks like 4G may finally be rolling out in the buffalo ny area, so likely upgrading the wife to the S4 tonight, and myself likely the Note II.
Its been a while since I had to root anything. So can anyone provide any tips or howto's to rooting the S4 and then installing Sac's rom?

ptmuldoon said:
Ok, guys.. Looks like 4G may finally be rolling out in the buffalo ny area, so likely upgrading the wife to the S4 tonight, and myself likely the Note II.
Its been a while since I had to root anything. So can anyone provide any tips or howto's to rooting the S4 and then installing Sac's rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would suggest waiting until activated to root. Sprint has the S4 set up to hard reset upon activation.
Rooting guide is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257101
Most ROMs will have a how-to-install in the OP of the thread. There are a lot of good dev ROMs out there, but I'm personally running stock rooted. Stock is so good I really don't have the urge to flash a ROM to make things better.

Do any current TW ROM's have hacked TW launcher?

Hey Guys and Gals,
So I switched over from a Verizon S4 to an AT&T S4. Long story, but it came down to poor reception at work with Verizon and excellent reception at work with AT&T.
Anyhow, there were some pretty great ROM's for the Verizon S4. While I'm sure there are plenty here too, I just haven't been able to dive to deep into it yet.
But from the couple that I have flashed and from looking at some OP's, do any current TW ROM's have the TW launcher hacked? To be more clear, speed hacked. A few Verizon devs did this to their ROM's and the overall scrolling of the homescreens was noticeably better! By a lot actually. It made scrolling much faster and even smoother.
If there aren't any like that around these parts, can I just port over a hacked SecLauncher3.apk from a Verizon ROM to an AT&T ROM?
Thanks!

I'm going to dodge all of your questions and provide you with completely irrelevant advice:
Don't download the OTA updates.
(I'm sure you already knew that, but... have to be sure!)
Also, welcome to AT&T.

Aou said:
I'm going to dodge all of your questions and provide you with completely irrelevant advice:
Don't download the OTA updates.
(I'm sure you already knew that, but... have to be sure!)
Also, welcome to AT&T.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks but I already have another thread on that topic lol. I got the phone home and immediately rooted it haha. Thanks for the info though and thanks for welcoming me! It's good to be here!
I have installed a couple roms so far and they just lack the quickness that I was used to on Verizon.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium

[N00B] I have an idea for downgrade

Ok, so I have an idea to like downgrade from mk2 or mf3... I am a noob to i337, so please explain to me WHY I can't do this before flaming :C
So we obv can't flash because of Samsung's locked bootloader and knox and stuff, but what if we were to completely wipe our phone. Not like a regular "I'ma factory reset my brick yo!" No no no, I mean completely getting rid of EVERYTHING. Modem, kernel, everything to make it as if you haven't gotten a single flash of ANYTHING on your phone, as if your phone is just getting it's software installed. THEN, we flash a MDL and everything for 4.1.2, or practically whatever came before mf3 (since my phone was shipped with that, I never really took the time to research what came before so I'm not sure what version is before). So, I'm thinking maybe someone has actually tried this, and thinking someone has not... Just want to find out if you can, and if you can't, why not.
Thanks
P.S: Wasn't sure whether to post in General or Q&A, so I posted it here

Because when your phone updated to mf3 or later it blows a q fuse that makes it impossible. It's beyond software. It's a hardware issue
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app

Ends said:
Because when your phone updated to mf3 or later it blows a q fuse that makes it impossible. It's beyond software. It's a hardware issue
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh ok, well in that case (sorry I'm a noob) whats a qfuse? I've searched it up and haven't really gotten anywhere with it

SkyAttacksX said:
Oh ok, well in that case (sorry I'm a noob) whats a qfuse? I've searched it up and haven't really gotten anywhere with it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From what I've read, it's a piece of hardware that only counts up. It is checked when attempting to flash old bootloaders.

DeadlySin9 said:
From what I've read, it's a piece of hardware that only counts up. It is checked when attempting to flash old bootloaders.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This seems like a good place to ask this question: does flashing 4.3 MK2 blow another qfuse? And if we're already on MF3, would you recommend waiting to update and not blowing that qfuse in case that might be the key to regaining access to custom recovery? Or are we doomed forever already and I should just go ahead and take the update?

karate104 said:
This seems like a good place to ask this question: does flashing 4.3 MK2 blow another qfuse? And if we're already on MF3, would you recommend waiting to update and not blowing that qfuse in case that might be the key to regaining access to custom recovery? Or are we doomed forever already and I should just go ahead and take the update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
MK2 does trip it, so no MF3 downgrade. Whether or not you upgrade is really up to you: progress is not coming too quickly and unless Samsung patched a security hole we haven't even found yet in the boot loader there's a chance any MF3 exploit may carry over. I would recommend MF3 personally since you can still use Safestrap for some freedom and it'll be less difficult since they won't have Knox to work around.

Hmmm... so it's a piece of hardware huh... would it be possible to remove this hardware? I took apart my S3 when the screen broke to see what was going on internally so if I'm correct, you can take apart the S4, right?
EDIT : Then again, that hardware could be pretty itty bitty...

SkyAttacksX said:
Hmmm... so it's a piece of hardware huh... would it be possible to remove this hardware? I took apart my S3 when the screen broke to see what was going on internally so if I'm correct, you can take apart the S4, right?
EDIT : Then again, that hardware could be pretty itty bitty...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it would be better for someone to hack the firmware and alter it to make it "think" it has checked this piece of hardware and return a favorable response.
However, i am no developer...

joeybear23 said:
I think it would be better for someone to hack the firmware and alter it to make it "think" it has checked this piece of hardware and return a favorable response.
However, i am no developer...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmmm I've wanted to be a dev for quite some time and I am only 14... However I did do a little noob java scripting for irc chats back when I was like 10, so if you know anyone willing to teach me the basics and give me the structure to adb and coding for android and all that, that'd be great

SkyAttacksX said:
Hmmmm I've wanted to be a dev for quite some time and I am only 14... However I did do a little noob java scripting for irc chats back when I was like 10, so if you know anyone willing to teach me the basics and give me the structure to adb and coding for android and all that, that'd be great
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is a great community. PM some of the developers and they can probably point you in the right direction to get started.

LOL.. If it were that easy, it would have already been done.

joeybear23 said:
This is a great community. PM some of the developers and they can probably point you in the right direction to get started.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Alright, thanks a ton! +1

custommx3 said:
LOL.. If it were that easy, it would have already been done.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That doesn't help

I still have a S4, and I never did the update, so I can flash roms, but do as I am fixing to do, I am fixing to sell the wifes S4 MF3, you can still get $500-$600 and get a T-Mobile Note 3.....there are people who know nothing of flashing roms that will pay that price....quit wasting time looking for a solution as the devs that were working on it moved on to different devices....you can bet that there will be no fix for this in the near future.....keep in mind that this is NO software problem.
.

TheAxman said:
I still have a S4, and I never did the update, so I can flash roms, but do as I am fixing to do, I am fixing to sell the wifes S4 MF3, you can still get $500-$600 and get a T-Mobile Note 3.....there are people who know nothing of flashing roms that will pay that price....quit wasting time looking for a solution as the devs that were working on it moved on to different devices....you can bet that there will be no fix for this in the near future.....keep in mind that this is NO software problem.
.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
CURRENTLY CHATTING WITH SAMSUNG (SORRY FOR CAPS JUST SO EXCITED ) This is what they said just now after I asked about an eFuse/qFuse. Tell me if this is invalid!!!
******: As of now, I would like to inform you that, eFuse is not available in S4 mobile.
This is what the rep has said so far for the i337, will be updating further soon
UPDATE BEFORE POST : I had to ask them this, as I am a newbie and I didn't want to put the burden on you guys.
Visitor: Thank you very much. If you don't mind, is there a difference between qFuse and eFuse?
******: You are welcome. I wish I could have helped you in this regard. However we in live chat have information regarding the US model devices trouble shooting only.
So I guess this could mean they aren't completely suited for these types of Q&A's? Either way, rumors did spread about eFuse stuff being involved but I was just told officially that this was incorrect. Please tell me if I am wrong? Or I might have to start a new thread on this, rather.

SkyAttacksX said:
CURRENTLY CHATTING WITH SAMSUNG (SORRY FOR CAPS JUST SO EXCITED ) This is what they said just now after I asked about an eFuse/qFuse. Tell me if this is invalid!!!
******: As of now, I would like to inform you that, eFuse is not available in S4 mobile.
This is what the rep has said so far for the i337, will be updating further soon
UPDATE BEFORE POST : I had to ask them this, as I am a newbie and I didn't want to put the burden on you guys.
Visitor: Thank you very much. If you don't mind, is there a difference between qFuse and eFuse?
******: You are welcome. I wish I could have helped you in this regard. However we in live chat have information regarding the US model devices trouble shooting only.
So I guess this could mean they aren't completely suited for these types of Q&A's? Either way, rumors did spread about eFuse stuff being involved but I was just told officially that this was incorrect. Please tell me if I am wrong? Or I might have to start a new thread on this, rather.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung customer service reps have no clue about the device other than what's on their scripts. A noob on xda has 100 times the knowledge they do

jd1639 said:
Samsung customer service reps have no clue about the device other than what's on their scripts. A noob on xda has 100 times the knowledge they do
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My hopes

TheAxman said:
I still have a S4, and I never did the update, so I can flash roms, but do as I am fixing to do, I am fixing to sell the wifes S4 MF3, you can still get $500-$600 and get a T-Mobile Note 3.....there are people who know nothing of flashing roms that will pay that price....quit wasting time looking for a solution as the devs that were working on it moved on to different devices....you can bet that there will be no fix for this in the near future.....keep in mind that this is NO software problem.
.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Keep in mind the T-Mobile Note 3, N900T gets really bad LTE reception when using an AT&T sim. In places that had a -90dbm LTE signal on the S4 wouldn't even connect to LTE on the N900T for me. The device also got really warm when it was connected to LTE. I don't know if that's because the N900T isn't optimized for band 17, or just a way for them to discourage people from using AT&T.
Developers for the S4 have not called it quits. They are currently working on bringing safestrap to the latest MK2 update.

I'm really just wasting my time here because actually "searching" for any of the stuff in this thread would have provided answers, but I guess posting the information 1001 times is no different than the 1000 times it's already been posted.
A q-fuse involves hardware on some level, an e-fuse is software related. The AT&T S4 used q-fuses to increment firmware boot-loaders. It was incremented between MDL and MF3. It was incremented again between MF3 and MJ6. And it was increased again between MJ6 and MK2. When it is incremented, YOU CAN NOT GO BACK TO A PREVIOUS FIRMWARE...PERIOD! You can not simply change the information in aboot. Any changes invalidate Samsung's signature and without their encrypted key, a file CAN NOT be resigned.

scott14719 said:
I'm really just wasting my time here because actually "searching" for any of the stuff in this thread would have provided answers, but I guess posting the information 1001 times is no different than the 1000 times it's already been posted.
A q-fuse involves hardware on some level, an e-fuse is software related. The AT&T S4 used q-fuses to increment firmware boot-loaders. It was incremented between MDL and MF3. It was incremented again between MF3 and MJ6. And it was increased again between MJ6 and MK2. When it is incremented, YOU CAN NOT GO BACK TO A PREVIOUS FIRMWARE...PERIOD! You can not simply change the information in aboot. Any changes invalidate Samsung's signature and without their encrypted key, a file CAN NOT be resigned.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm very much sorry for that. However, do not misinterpret me when I say this but, your post was unnecessary as someone already said qFuse was on a hardware level. I dedicated a bunch of today to S4 and the I337 model specifically. Tomorrow or Wednesday is when I'll be sending some PMs to Devs
Basically, thread is over with. Thanks everyone