and is anyone experiencing any lag? I seem to get more than normal. I've had it two weeks and now considering to get an HTC One....
Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
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Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
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Yeah, I agree. I hope there is an update soon. Rooting it does make a difference in speed though. But I don't really want to keep it rooted unless I have to.
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Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
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That's very very weird. I have used both plenty. And the S4 is plenty faster then the One. I went onto AOSP right away tho on my S4 so that might be it. All the people complaining about lag were on the original shipped out software on the phone. From what I have read though, the latest update to TW fixed all the lag. And it's not that they didn't optimize the software, it was only the first week of the phone being out give them a break.
And anyways, on Stock my phone runs u believably fast with literally not a sliver of lag :/ I've owned every Galaxy and my best friend has owned quite a few of the latest HTC devices, IMHO only thing The One arguably has on the S4 is build quality, and that's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think the One is a big clunk of metal and I actually love the build of the S4, didn't like the S3 but they squared it out with the S4.
Ooops sorry about the rant. And not trying to start a competition or flame war about the devices, both are top end and great phones, every one loves what they love, and what I love has nothing to do with what you want.. As long as your happy with your device who cares.
But really just throw on the latest update or try AOSP, running Slimbean right now absolutely flawlessly.
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I have both as well and the S4 is faster in my testing to. I have no lag either. I took the One back and gor another S4 and gave to my wife.
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That's very very weird. I have used both plenty. And the S4 is plenty faster then the One. I went onto AOSP right away tho on my S4 so that might be it. All the people complaining about lag were on the original shipped out software on the phone. From what I have read though, the latest update to TW fixed all the lag. And it's not that they didn't optimize the software, it was only the first week of the phone being out give them a break.
And anyways, on Stock my phone runs u believably fast with literally not a sliver of lag :/ I've owned every Galaxy and my best friend has owned quite a few of the latest HTC devices, IMHO only thing The One arguably has on the S4 is build quality, and that's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think the One is a big clunk of metal and I actually love the build of the S4, didn't like the S3 but they squared it out with the S4.
Ooops sorry about the rant. And not trying to start a competition or flame war about the devices, both are top end and great phones, every one loves what they love, and what I love has nothing to do with what you want.. As long as your happy with your device who cares.
But really just throw on the latest update or try AOSP, running Slimbean right now absolutely flawlessly.
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Keep in mind that after I rooted it, there was no lag but I returned it to stock. Thereby the lag returned. You say that there was an update. How would I know if I received the update? It's likely that I received it already and still experiencing the lag. It's also likely the other poster may have received the update as well.
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Keep in mind that after I rooted it, there was no lag but I returned it to stock. Thereby the lag returned. You say that there was an update. How would I know if I received the update? It's likely that I received it already and still experiencing the lag. It's also likely the other poster may have received the update as well.
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Simply getting root access shouldn't change levels of lag or the lack of it. Is that all you did, root it?
Check your firmware version in about phone, the latest is MDL, its still rolling out so if your still having lag that's most likely why.
If you don't know that you received it. You didn't. A notification pops up saying a system update is available and you have to click and click accept the update. It doesn't just update itself.
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Mine was extremely laggy, I was contemplating taking it back and getting my One back that I turned in for the s4 because of it then I came on here and found about the update that is apparently semi hidden because you have to clear Google frameworks app data to get it but after the update my phone Flys almost as fast as the One...... It is noticeably faster than before the update
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Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
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Mine was extremely laggy, I was contemplating taking it back and getting my One back that I turned in for the s4 because of it then I came on here and found about the update that is apparently semi hidden because you have to clear Google frameworks app data to get it but after the update my phone Flys almost as fast as the One...... It is noticeably faster than before the update
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Does anyone know if the update breaks root and or the boatloader?
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Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
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The person was strictly talking about rooting not installing a ROM. Which is true all rooting does is open up your device for total control of the phone, from there you can do many things to help with the lag, but just rooting wouldn't affect lag. Not everyone installs a ROM after rooting.
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If you have lag than you dont have the update.....and yes the update will give you trouble with root. But there are workarounds...... I personally unrooted to get the update. Going to run this for a bit until my next move....
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Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
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You misunderstood me. I didn't say anything about tweaks, flashing roms, kernels, or anything. I said root, referring to simply giving yourself superuser access.
That has nothing anything performance wise. It's just granting yourself root access. So when you said your performance and lag changed when you rooted, I was under the impression you only rooted. You didn't say you flashed a different rom and it was faster, just that you rooted.
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You misunderstood me. I didn't say anything about tweaks, flashing roms, kernels, or anything. I said root, referring to simply giving yourself superuser access.
That has nothing anything performance wise. It's just granting yourself root access. So when you said your performance and lag changed when you rooted, I was under the impression you only rooted. You didn't say you flashed a different rom and it was faster, just that you rooted.
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Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
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Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
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Look at your build number the newest version ends in mdl. No offense but how do you know how to root and ROM but don't know how to look at what build number you are on.
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Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
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I said check version in "About Phone"! If your on MDC, its probably why, MDL seemed to fix all the issues with any lag anyone was having!
Either way, you still have access to the AOSP roms which are running great right now, and Team Venum is going to be coming out with some great TW roms this weekendish so look out for those!
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Look at your build number the newest version ends in mdl. No offense but how do you know how to root and ROM but don't know how to look at what build number you are on.
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How would one determine that MDL is the "latest" build? There is no date associated with those letters.
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How would one determine that MDL is the "latest" build? There is no date associated with those letters.
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Your right. But that is a code for the date. M=2013 d=4th month April L= day of month 12th
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Your right. But that is a code for the date. M=2013 d=4th month April L= day of month 12th
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Huh?
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Huh?
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He's answering your question. Mdl is tje latest. Sammy used tje letter as build dates. M=2013 d=April and l=day of month.
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It seems like the custom ROMs out right now are for the international version, right?
There should be ROMs coming for US-specific (IE, Vibrant), correct? I just don't want to get something I cannot customize. What scares me is that Samsung will update it to 2.2 and not release 3.0 later on?
Coming from the Touch Pro 2 scene where there are lots of variations as well, there should be roms that are compatible with multiple handsets and even some geared towards specific phones. Additional add-ons might be required for button layouts or something but I'm not sure how it works since I am speaking with experience only in the Windows Mobile area.
Regarding the update, it's really hard to tell since we don't even have the 2.2 update yet. But hopefully, they'll continue to support the Galaxy S as it's Samsung's direct iPhone competitor.
We should be able to flash any firmware for the galaxy s including the modaco rom. The real question is will we be able to get a hacked recovery to stick like amon_ra or cynogen ? Ps my phone comes this week im freaking excited!!
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We should be able to flash any firmware for the galaxy s including the modaco rom. The real question is will we be able to get a hacked recovery to stick like amon_ra or cynogen ? Ps my phone comes this week im freaking excited!!
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I'm excited to and I'm exited to be apart of building the vibrant section hopefully can atleast beat out the captivate and fascinate page
Thursday morning I'm waking up early and picking this baby up. I hope we can gain root the same way as the international version.
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same going to be at the store 9 am to pick it up then head straight to xda for a root and a cfw that would be a dream
Hopefully the source code that was released by Samsung for the Galaxy S is the same for the Vibrant, which I see no reason why it would change but it is Samsung. If it is, I will help to port CM6 over to the Vibrant. The source code from Samsung that I downloaded yesterday has from what I could see with my quick glance over the drivers (baseband, sound, screen, etc) that would be needed to bake up a custom ROM.
That would be so awesome. I really don't care about samsung supporting this phone, as long as they let devs do their thing. Meaning not to lock up anything ala droid x
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It doesn't matter if they don't officially update it to 3.0, when there is root, there is a way!
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It doesn't matter if they don't officially update it to 3.0, when there is root, there is a way!
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not nessecarily true lol, take a look at the Motorola Milestone for an example, they have had root for a long time now, but cant load a custom rom due to an encrypted bootloader.
That's why I'm saying that if samsung doesn't do it, let the community have what it needs to do it themselves, look at cyan. My g1 should've been obsolete a year ago, but on the contrary its as strong as it was when I first rooted it.
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Hopefully the source code that was released by Samsung for the Galaxy S is the same for the Vibrant, which I see no reason why it would change but it is Samsung. If it is, I will help to port CM6 over to the Vibrant. The source code from Samsung that I downloaded yesterday has from what I could see with my quick glance over the drivers (baseband, sound, screen, etc) that would be needed to bake up a custom ROM.
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If the drivers are there, 90% of the work is done. We'll have the latest roms (barring some unlikely extreme performance requirements).
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That's why I'm saying that if samsung doesn't do it, let the community have what it needs to do it themselves, look at cyan. My g1 should've been obsolete a year ago, but on the contrary its as strong as it was when I first rooted it.
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Haven't checked in a while but the Behold 2 was a pain in the ass to root. And Samsung said that they didn't want people hacking their phones. That was a few months ago, since I don't have the phone I haven't checked back. I'm getting this bad boy and hopefully there will be a lot of support for it.
It's really easy to root the vibrant
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Can the bootloader be unlocked?
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It's really easy to root the vibrant
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Second that. Took me 1 minute. Maybe less, LOL. Running tests, everything seems to be working, SU permisions et al.
Not sure on boot, but it seems that Samsung didn't even try to make it hard.
I went back to winmo for a while, and while the HD2 community is great, have to say glad to be back on android.
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Haven't checked in a while but the Behold 2 was a pain in the ass to root. And Samsung said that they didn't want people hacking their phones. That was a few months ago, since I don't have the phone I haven't checked back. I'm getting this bad boy and hopefully there will be a lot of support for it.
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The behold 2 wasn't too bad to root me and kam187 had it rooted shortly after it launched. The custom roms part was the hard part lol.
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The fact that modaco has a custom ROM out indicates that it's probably going to be fairly easy for us.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/62961?tstart=0
I like how it has "baw" right in the URL.
Haven't they updated almost everyone's phone ota? What are they gonna do to the people.they updated?
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Haven't they updated almost everyone's phone ota? What are they gonna do to the people.they updated?
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My wifes epic didn't get the OTA yet.
Not sure, they are working on another release though.
Can't wait for new phones. I'm jumping off the Samsung train at the nearest stop.
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At least we got the source code. I wonder if it will still be eb13 or something else. Damn I hate this. It will take another 6months to.get a fully working version.
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At least we got the source code. I wonder if it will still be eb13 or something else. Damn I hate this. It will take another 6months to.get a fully working version.
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We've already seen evidence that Sammy was working on builds later than EB13.
I didn't get the ota either. This is unreal, all that wait fro froyo to get a ota that's stopped due to issues??? Well that was the nail in the coffin for me. 0 chance of me owning another Samsung phone now.
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Can't wait for new phones. I'm jumping off the Samsung train at the nearest stop.
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sad buit its the truth, I came from the evo to this phone, I love it especiallly with custom roms but its obvious that htc is brand of choice for sprint
At least this means that they are working on an update. The only problem I have is with taking videos in low light. But I hardly ever do that so it isn't a deal breaker for me. Everything else is 100 times better than DI18 for what I use.
It says that a hard reset fixes the issues. People that have been running DK28 for a few months are already used to this sort of behavior. You cannot rely on these OTA upgrades. It's like upgrading Windows versions. Wipe and and clean install is always the best policy.
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At least this means that they are working on an update. The only problem I have is with taking videos in low light. But I hardly ever do that so it isn't a deal breaker for me. Everything else is 100 times better than DI18 for what I use.
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I agree except for one point , I dont like the new messaging lol
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I agree except for one point , I dont like the new messaging lol
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If you install gosms from the market, there is an option to make it look similar to the Eclair messenger without the bubbles
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At least this means that they are working on an update.
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I'm not sure the pull means that. It sounds like the problem is with the updating mechanism, not with EB13 itself. It could easily be just the updating scripts themselves that they are working on.
I do think they are always working on new builds, but I have no idea how seriously they are considering actually making one of those publicly-available nor what sort of time course they might have in mind.
I have heard the issues that Sprint was having (relative is an employee). It's nothing that I would have pulled the OTA over TBH. Stuff like calendar syncing not working (clear data clears that right up). From what I heard it sounds like it's all stuff that is related to user data and cache issues. There was nothing on the list that we didn't already know about.
I knew the data issue on the EB13 modem getting 18kbps & 30kbps was not related to anything else but the modem. Odin back to DK28, & while not real fast, nothing compared to EB13. Epic fail!
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wow, this section is about to be blown apart.
I believe that the OTA was pushed out sensing the increasing noise about the update. It was certainly not ready, and they knew it, I think. They must also have known they might need to pull it back.
One wonders just what happened last year between Samsung and Sprint that caused this mess. It's surprising that even after so many months, they failed to provide a decent update! Can one of the mods, who was in talks with SamsungJohn, throw some much needed light on all this, if SamsungJohn provided some important info., and also if the time frame around the yet-another-update is known.
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I may or not not work for sprint and as far as I can tell, these issues only effect the OTA update, not the over the wire update, FWIW...
I think so sprint/samsung should just give us 2.3/.4 and call it a day, I'm upset about the wait but at least toss us some sort of bone for our troubles.
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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091
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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Evo3d or nexus 4g or any phones that are dual core that come out in the next 3 months
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If you get the epic, make sure you rigorously test the hardware keyboard within the first 30 days so you can return it if you get a phone that's physical keyboard drops keys.
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Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
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Thanks for the link!
I never buy phones on contract, and swapped from an iPhone to a Moto Droid in May of last year. Loved the Android platform, since I'm a programmer and super-user -- not a dumb user, the way the iPhone continued to fail.
I switched to the Epic 4G around October of that year (bought off-contract as well, ESN was clear, but ended up still being attached to an account... got scammed and ported it to Cricket myself). Love the keyboard. Love the screen. Not a bad phone at all. I wouldn't buy it on contract, though, since the new phones are coming out. But in my mind, the Epic is a definite upgrade from the Droid, albeit still not quite as flexible as the original Droid was in terms of development and ROMs (was on Sapphire with Droid -- tried pretty much all the different ROMs for Epic and they're nice, but not as nice as something mostly AOSP, i.e. CM7 or Sapphire). Waiting patiently for Epic's CM7 to be mostly stable so I can try to ROM with that -- having very high hopes for it.
So in a nutshell, yes, great phone. But, the only issue is that the phone will be outdated rather quick, though I don't think we're going to see another contender with a decent keyboard for a while with dual-core processors, etc (re: I'm guessing a year). No comment on Sprint service, but double check with reviews in your area to see how coverage, etc, is before making the jump.
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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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It's a great phone now. Got mine for the second time on friday and updated that evening ota. I also have a Evo and Evo shift and had the dual core Atrix(hype at this point imho).
The Epic is my favorite although i do prefer the keyboard on the Evo shift cause its smaller which is odd but rue
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
I really do like my phone and the ROMs are smoke'n.
They have been having a bit of an issue releasing Froyo that doesn't have some level of suckage.
We're expecting a 3rd try this week.
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
Some GPS issues; though each update makes it a bit better.
There is a reason that this phone is the #1 selling PDA phone.
Having all said that, in a few months there will be some really powerful stuff that will just blow the doors off anything currently available. If I were in your position. I'd go for a multi-processor phone.
Good luck
I say get an evo.
Theres a whole lot more going on with the evo development that its a much more flexible phone.
Our phone has a lot of potential, but with a fracyion of evo/droid devs its harder for the epic to get there.
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jdelano said:
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
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Check out the hardware keyboard fix from mkasick - it's implemented in SRF 1.1.0 and its accompanying kernel, Twilight Zone 1.1.0. If you don't want to leave your current ROM, give Twilight Zone a try. The fix is an adjustable one - so you can set the value as low as you want. That should completely eliminate any issues you're having.
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I can't even tell you how many times I've flashed this phone trying to get an optimal set up. I have found that over all I've had less problems with the stock rom, but it is still a lot more buggy than the evo. I would just give this phone to my girlfriend and take her evo, but I don't think she would know what to do if the phone went haywire on her. Hers is stock and I've had far less issues with it than this phone. The only times I had any real issues with her evo is when I tried to mess with it. Trust me man, I thought I was the one screwing up this phone, that's why I'm trying out the stock hardware! All I'm saying there are a lot more issues. Trust me I bought this phone for the same reasons as everyone else! I'm just getting sick and tired of having to Odin the damn thing everyone 3 to 4 weeks! I thought a program may have been causing it, so now I'm trying stock ROM EC and I've only rooted it. I've downloaded XDA, Poynt, Blow up, and the Chase apps. These are the only apps I have on here now, so I was hoping that it was maybe an app causing my problems. Today I had my first problem since going to my current set up. I've been talking about it in this forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12464672#post12464672. I'm hoping that it's something that I just needed to reboot my phone. The only other thing I can think that made my phone go black screen is when I use the media player and play videos. I'm hoping it's not one of the apps, but I haven't been able to replicate the problem today. I'm just saying that my girl doesn't have any of these issues with the evo and right now I'm basically on the edge with this phone!!!! I also don't want to shell out a bunch more money for a phone so I just kind of have to deal with it and hope I can find a solution, but I would not recommend this phone to anyone after what I've been through! The Nexus S may be a different story since it's stock, but not this phone!
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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Trust me I've flashed this phone many times. I'm sorry to tell you that when you flash Roms and kernels there are still going to be some problems. I realise that you may want to flash Roms and kernels to make the phone run a certain way, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple roms or kernels to flash if everything worked perfect with one. You're showing your ignorance if you think that a flashed rom and/or kernel is going to be problem free. There's a reason why there are constant updates to the roms and kernels.
I'm just tired of doing it and you should be able to use the phone, without it crashing, without having to mess with it. I don't think it's too much to ask for the phone to not crash when it's stock. Maybe I need to go to full stock with out root. Maybe that's what's causing the phone to mess up. That's my next option!
Edit: I wish I could see other things you've bought. Just curious what type of repairs you had to do to them...
Not sure why you would expect something to NOT work correctly out of the box? You make a valid point it shouldn't work correctly stock..........
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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Whatever you do, do NOT get the Epic. Even if it's free. The keyboard TO THIS DAY does not work properly. It still misses keys and it's not layed out all that well either. I came from a g1 that had a keyboard that ACTUALLY registered keys, even if you type faster than my grandma. Please do not get the epic, get the evo shift or wait for something else on Verizon.
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got this from a "sprint rep" on their forums
TiNy-2nz -
I apologize for the frustrations associated with the current issues with the GB release... Please know that we are aware of many of the issues people are experiencing and are working with HTC to resolve them. Although I don't have a time frame now, they will be sending out a patch to resolve issues associated with your device.
SOOO take it for what its worth and maybe there is a hair of hope .....
TInY
hope this is true.
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I had a prompt to download an update today. I skipped cuz I'm still holding out for root on this update that I'm on. I'm not actually having issues other than I can't root...
sent from my 2.3.3 unrooted piece o ****....
I was also prompted for an update today, after just being prompted for the GB update the other day. I was hoping maybe they were being true to their word and unlocking the bootloader.
It was a rather lengthy update process with two reboots involved.
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got this from a "sprint rep" on their forums
TiNy-2nz -
I apologize for the frustrations associated with the current issues with the GB release... Please know that we are aware of many of the issues people are experiencing and are working with HTC to resolve them. Although I don't have a time frame now, they will be sending out a patch to resolve issues associated with your device.
SOOO take it for what its worth and maybe there is a hair of hope .....
TInY
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hope this is true.
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Not to sound like a douche, but I think it's pretty obvious that Sprint & HTC plan on releasing an update that would fix the problems presented with the GB update.
There was the 4.22 update,GB
Then the 4.24 update,GB fix,
Are you guys saying there is a 3rd update being pushed?
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I'm wondering the same thing...I've already had two updates. I took both of them because I like my evolution stock, only reason I ever rooted my hero is because Sence made it sluggish.
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at this point in time....i am not confident that we will have any sort of solution in the near future, we will simply have to deal with this horrible android version of gingershitbread, i never tought id hate the awsomeness that is an EVO , but currently...i kind of do, clearing user data, resetting,done it all, it still sucks arse and glitches half the dam time,its horrible, if id have known i would have stayed with stock 2.2 (not because of root but because it actually friggin functioned better)
I waited a couple weeks and did the rooted stock rom, 4.24
Have had no issues after a full week of use.
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the more i think about it you think he said that just to shut me up and so the sprint forums dont get filled up with posts about it ??? I dunno; like the corp store told me; "as long as you can make and recieve calls there is nothing wrong with your handset"
IT suxx to be stock its like having a maseratti that only goes 55MPH
I have tried every custom 2.3 rom available, but none of them is stable.
Will we get the official 2.3 rom?
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There are rumors of an official asian gingerbread version, yes.
Source: fards
Hope it is true...
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MySeLfPT said:
There are rumors of an official asian gingerbread version, yes.
Source: fards
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No asian is getting GB update dude.
'em from India and when ask dell ppl they passout
Besides, unlocked Streaks direct from Dell would be the first to get such an update since ROMs for those units don't have to be modified by the carriers to add carrier bloatware before being released.
well... i am not here to defend it. It is a rumor after all... everybody belives in what they want to belive.
2.2.2 stable
Is gingerbread "really" needed?
Yeah, who wouldn't want the latest & greatest OS for our device, but, just for me, 2.2.2 (purchased direct from Dell, unlocked) is smooth as silk.
It came with 1.6, up'd to 2.1, then 2.2.2 and with the script tweak, it's smooth as silk. Does it get 10,000 on the benchmarks? Nope, not hardly, but I can run it for a week at a time, no lock ups, only the once in a while app FC, so I have to ask myself, does it do what it is suppose to do? YES. What benefits would I gain from updating to GB or HC? Probably not much other than some eye candy.
This gadget is my business device 75% of the time and I don't have time to constantly reboot, reinstall, wipe everything out.
I guess I'm among the minority.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Besides, unlocked Streaks direct from Dell would be the first to get such an update since ROMs for those units don't have to be modified by the carriers to add carrier bloatware before being released.
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In india its unlocked one . The so called EU MDL
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Well, if it came from Dell, it will get the update first, which is my entire point. If it comes from a carrier, you have to wait.
You are not alone, p51d..... I bought a Nexus 1 back when they first came out..... After a couple of months, I got REALLY tired of not having pinch-to-zoom in the browser..... so I decided to root it and install a custom ROM that would give me that capability. Although technically the ROM install was successful, the phone's battery life immediately plummeted to about 3-hours (from a full charge). When the lcd started becoming cloudy (probably from overheating due to a half-baked ROM), I sent it back to Google for replacement. 2-weeks later it arrived freight COLLECT, along with a letter from Google saying because it had been modified, the warranty was void. That was a $600 lesson I learned the hard way.
When I read here where people want to change some minor feature and root their Streaks, then run into major problems and expect others to fix it, I just have to smile to myself. I mean is it really worth destroying your phone just to get a fraction of a millisecond faster processor speed?
I bought my Streak factory-unlocked from Dell, and because of my past experience, I would never root it, especially since it's my only phone/pocket-sized link to the outside world. When the warranty expires, I'll probably get something else. But my factory-installed Froyo OS is smooth as silk. It's not lightning fast, but I don't have an extra $550 that I can blow to make it faster LOL
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You are not alone, p51d..... I bought a Nexus 1 back when they first came out..... After a couple of months, I got REALLY tired of not having pinch-to-zoom in the browser..... so I decided to root it and install a custom ROM that would give me that capability. Although technically the ROM install was successful, the phone's battery life immediately plummeted to about 3-hours (from a full charge). When the lcd started becoming cloudy (probably from overheating due to a half-baked ROM), I sent it back to Google for replacement. 2-weeks later it arrived freight COLLECT, along with a letter from Google saying because it had been modified, the warranty was void. That was a $600 lesson I learned the hard way.
When I read here where people want to change some minor feature and root their Streaks, then run into major problems and expect others to fix it, I just have to smile to myself. I mean is it really worth destroying your phone just to get a fraction of a millisecond faster processor speed?
I bought my Streak factory-unlocked from Dell, and because of my past experience, I would never root it, especially since it's my only phone/pocket-sized link to the outside world. When the warranty expires, I'll probably get something else. But my factory-installed Froyo OS is smooth as silk. It's not lightning fast, but I don't have an extra $550 that I can blow to make it faster LOL
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Rooting never hurts unless you have no idea what you are doing. ( I had to say this )
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So Streakowner, what you mean is how well the phone functions after it's been rooted (even "correctly" rooted), has NOTHING to do with the ROM installed on it? With all due respect, I beg to differ with you on that point.... please explain further
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So Streakowner, what you mean is how well the phone functions after it's been rooted (even "correctly" rooted), has NOTHING to do with the ROM installed on it? With all due respect, I beg to differ with you on that point.... please explain further
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if you refer to rooting as only having the su and busybox installed then , you are wrong, but if you meant that installing custom ROMs is bad practice , I do agree totally with you, you never know what is inside the complied libwebcore.so for example, can just be anything there, even some nasty code you aren't aware but your bank will insist it was you who ordered that item from Ebay .
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I should have clarified that, streakOwner..... my bad ... You are correct...... Rooting alone did not destroy my Nexus...... the culprit, no doubt, was my choice of which ROM to install.... Nonetheless, it did void the warranty...... To borrow an overused phrase, "Other than that, Mrs, Lincoln, how was the play"? LOL
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To expand on what he said, the usual modules added from rooting are:
SU
Superuser.apk
Busybox
Sometimes bash.
By themselves they dont do anything, on a rooted system with no root able apps it's functionally the same as not being rooted.
It depends entirely on what apps are doing that requires root permissions to accomplish.
It's like buying a bad battery that will explode. If you dont ever charge it and put it in your phone nothing will happen, it's just a plastic brick until then.
Rooting would be the equivilent to removing the battery cover and installing it vs having it taped shut.
Good analogy, Manii..... Unfortunately, my need to have pinch-to-zoom on my Nexus basically ended up costing me the phone. Had I waited for an update, or installed a different ROM, I maybe could have avoided disaster......
Just from looking around here, it seems the vast majority of custom ROMs are slightly, if not overly, buggy (IMO..... I mean, look at the title of this thread). I had an old HD2 awhile back that I would flash different ROMs to, just for kicks.... but it wasn't my main phone. Prior to that, I unlocked our iPhones (relatively simple), so I thought installing a different ROM on the Nexus couldn't be all that difficult..... The root/ROM install was simple enough, but the real trick with Android is finding a custom ROM that actually works 100%. That's why I took issue with streakOwner's "if you know what you're doing" comment. I should've clarified the Nexus problem was totally ROM-related..... not a "pbk&c" issue (Problem Between Keyboard & Chair) LOL
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im running a stock but rooted streak, couldnt be more happy.. only needed root for blocking ads, and to change fonts etc. swtich between this and my infuse..
Hey SpiritCrush..... Not to veer off-topic here, but how do you like your Infuse? T-Mobile is getting the Galaxy S2 on Friday (4.65-inch screen version), and I have a line on my Family Plan that's up for renewal.... so I might consider getting one (I'm going to renew that line anyway).... Not sure I can live with "TouchWiz" though.... Humm.... that one might be worth rooting just to disable TouchWiz (how's that to segway back on topic?)
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im running a stock but rooted streak, couldnt be more happy.. only needed root for blocking ads, and to change fonts etc. swtich between this and my infuse..
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Co-sign. I run 354 rooted and I never have any problems, and I use this as my only device.
drsuicide said:
I have tried every custom 2.3 rom available, but none of them is stable.
Will we get the official 2.3 rom?
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I also tried every 2.3 rom available, only the simplestreak seems to be an unofficial stable rom, but not "rock solid" as I noticed sometimes it freezes expecially while using ADW launcher.