[Q] questions from a Droid user maybe coming to sprint - Epic 4G General

I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.

Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Evo3d or nexus 4g or any phones that are dual core that come out in the next 3 months
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If you get the epic, make sure you rigorously test the hardware keyboard within the first 30 days so you can return it if you get a phone that's physical keyboard drops keys.
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Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091
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Thanks for the link!

I never buy phones on contract, and swapped from an iPhone to a Moto Droid in May of last year. Loved the Android platform, since I'm a programmer and super-user -- not a dumb user, the way the iPhone continued to fail.
I switched to the Epic 4G around October of that year (bought off-contract as well, ESN was clear, but ended up still being attached to an account... got scammed and ported it to Cricket myself). Love the keyboard. Love the screen. Not a bad phone at all. I wouldn't buy it on contract, though, since the new phones are coming out. But in my mind, the Epic is a definite upgrade from the Droid, albeit still not quite as flexible as the original Droid was in terms of development and ROMs (was on Sapphire with Droid -- tried pretty much all the different ROMs for Epic and they're nice, but not as nice as something mostly AOSP, i.e. CM7 or Sapphire). Waiting patiently for Epic's CM7 to be mostly stable so I can try to ROM with that -- having very high hopes for it.
So in a nutshell, yes, great phone. But, the only issue is that the phone will be outdated rather quick, though I don't think we're going to see another contender with a decent keyboard for a while with dual-core processors, etc (re: I'm guessing a year). No comment on Sprint service, but double check with reviews in your area to see how coverage, etc, is before making the jump.

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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cpcormier3 said:
I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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It's a great phone now. Got mine for the second time on friday and updated that evening ota. I also have a Evo and Evo shift and had the dual core Atrix(hype at this point imho).
The Epic is my favorite although i do prefer the keyboard on the Evo shift cause its smaller which is odd but rue
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jbadboy2007 said:
DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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cpcormier3 said:
Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.

I really do like my phone and the ROMs are smoke'n.
They have been having a bit of an issue releasing Froyo that doesn't have some level of suckage.
We're expecting a 3rd try this week.
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
Some GPS issues; though each update makes it a bit better.
There is a reason that this phone is the #1 selling PDA phone.
Having all said that, in a few months there will be some really powerful stuff that will just blow the doors off anything currently available. If I were in your position. I'd go for a multi-processor phone.
Good luck

I say get an evo.
Theres a whole lot more going on with the evo development that its a much more flexible phone.
Our phone has a lot of potential, but with a fracyion of evo/droid devs its harder for the epic to get there.
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jdelano said:
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
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Check out the hardware keyboard fix from mkasick - it's implemented in SRF 1.1.0 and its accompanying kernel, Twilight Zone 1.1.0. If you don't want to leave your current ROM, give Twilight Zone a try. The fix is an adjustable one - so you can set the value as low as you want. That should completely eliminate any issues you're having.

063_XOBX said:
YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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cpcormier3 said:
These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.

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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I can't even tell you how many times I've flashed this phone trying to get an optimal set up. I have found that over all I've had less problems with the stock rom, but it is still a lot more buggy than the evo. I would just give this phone to my girlfriend and take her evo, but I don't think she would know what to do if the phone went haywire on her. Hers is stock and I've had far less issues with it than this phone. The only times I had any real issues with her evo is when I tried to mess with it. Trust me man, I thought I was the one screwing up this phone, that's why I'm trying out the stock hardware! All I'm saying there are a lot more issues. Trust me I bought this phone for the same reasons as everyone else! I'm just getting sick and tired of having to Odin the damn thing everyone 3 to 4 weeks! I thought a program may have been causing it, so now I'm trying stock ROM EC and I've only rooted it. I've downloaded XDA, Poynt, Blow up, and the Chase apps. These are the only apps I have on here now, so I was hoping that it was maybe an app causing my problems. Today I had my first problem since going to my current set up. I've been talking about it in this forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12464672#post12464672. I'm hoping that it's something that I just needed to reboot my phone. The only other thing I can think that made my phone go black screen is when I use the media player and play videos. I'm hoping it's not one of the apps, but I haven't been able to replicate the problem today. I'm just saying that my girl doesn't have any of these issues with the evo and right now I'm basically on the edge with this phone!!!! I also don't want to shell out a bunch more money for a phone so I just kind of have to deal with it and hope I can find a solution, but I would not recommend this phone to anyone after what I've been through! The Nexus S may be a different story since it's stock, but not this phone!

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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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jbadboy2007 said:
I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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Trust me I've flashed this phone many times. I'm sorry to tell you that when you flash Roms and kernels there are still going to be some problems. I realise that you may want to flash Roms and kernels to make the phone run a certain way, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple roms or kernels to flash if everything worked perfect with one. You're showing your ignorance if you think that a flashed rom and/or kernel is going to be problem free. There's a reason why there are constant updates to the roms and kernels.
I'm just tired of doing it and you should be able to use the phone, without it crashing, without having to mess with it. I don't think it's too much to ask for the phone to not crash when it's stock. Maybe I need to go to full stock with out root. Maybe that's what's causing the phone to mess up. That's my next option!
Edit: I wish I could see other things you've bought. Just curious what type of repairs you had to do to them...
Not sure why you would expect something to NOT work correctly out of the box? You make a valid point it shouldn't work correctly stock..........

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Whatever you do, do NOT get the Epic. Even if it's free. The keyboard TO THIS DAY does not work properly. It still misses keys and it's not layed out all that well either. I came from a g1 that had a keyboard that ACTUALLY registered keys, even if you type faster than my grandma. Please do not get the epic, get the evo shift or wait for something else on Verizon.
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Switch from Hero to Moment?

Okay so my wife's Palm Pre messed up and my upgrades don't come eligible until January. So, I bought a Moment off eBay for her. She doesn't care whether she uses that or my Hero.
I was considering using the Moment. I know of a forum like this to go to so I can mod and root the Moment. But I am not sure if it is better performance wise and battery wise than my Hero.
What do y'all think? Should I keep the Hero or hack into the Moment?
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I have both the hero and the moment and performance wise moment is better. If u go to androidmobilesupport.com they haves really good rom there called keebler and from pics of it it has a higher than stock n1 and htc desire
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I have both the hero and the moment and performance wise moment is better.
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I think you are the first Moment owner I have heard say this about ANY phone, let alone the Hero.
Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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I think you are the first Moment owner I have heard say this about ANY phone, let alone the Hero.
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Then u probably don't know any1 that goes on sdx or ams. The moment is good and also been OC to 1.0.2 ghz tho it still isn't stable YET.
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Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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Ya I had the lockup but most newer Roms have a lockup fix. If they don't u can find a zip for it
wackywrz said:
Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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Sense overhead plus a faster stock processor.
Since you have both phones you might as well root the moment, but I came from that and have had my hero for about a month now. There is no real fix for the lockups, the "fix" just slows the lockups down. I am happier with my hero than the moment, the hero seems do d/l faster and better music quality with pandora through the headphone jack. Either phone is good I just could not deal with a few lockups a day with my old moments (I had it replaced 5 times). Either way you go good luck.
The Samsung Moment is by far the WORST Android phone I have ever had the misfortune of having to help my parents manage. My father decided to surprise out family with Android phones, and thankfully, he got me a Hero.
the moment is a garbage phone, too many issues with it.
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the moment is a garbage phone, too many issues with it.
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Well, I should get the Moment tomorrow in the mail. I am going o load a custom rom on it. I will post a review of my findings.
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Well a few days ago I recieved the Moment and I swapped my phone to that and I gave my wife my Hero.
I reloaded the latest 2.1 Fresh for her because she actually likes Sense.
I fiddled around with a few roms for the Moment from other websites. Right now I am using the latest Keebler 2.1 rom and updated kernel and it runs great.
I haven't received any data lockups, the rom goes from 800-66mHz. Battery life is great and I am getting constant 9.0+ mflops on linpack and near 500's on quadrant.
So, overall I am happy witht the swap from the Hero to the Moment.
BTW, I must say that the Moment's screen is actually awesome!!!
I have an update on my Moment...
I'm still using Keebler 3.0 rom but this time I updated the opengl drivers and overclocked it to 1060mhz. I'm getting 10's for linpack and quadrant scores are around 510.
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Its a good phone I haven't had a lockup in weeks I have noobnls radioactive rom ext2 and I sometimes overclocked to 1066ghz
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Where did you go to get the rooting info and rom for the moment? My wife has one and its slow as crap and the battery only lasts about 4 hours.
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Sdx-developers is the place you wanna look for moment related materials.
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db56319 said:
Sdx-developers is the place you wanna look for moment related materials.
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I did go over there and look at it...... All I can say is THANK GOD I elected to get a Hero instead of the Moment when I was given the opportunity to get out from under the POC TP2's I had. Yes I know it was a downgrade in money and I lost out on it,but if I had half as much trouble as what some of the posters over there are saying about it after going through 5 TP2's ..I would have gone postal at the repair center..... I wish you all the luck with it and no data lock ups or home key issues..
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Most of the problems I have (had) with the moment is harrdware based problems. And samsung is the reason. I am more or less neew to this so can someone tell me a way to backup the apps and not just the save info for them? This is the 3rd one of these things I have been through in 5 months and next is hell if I don't get another actual phone. I guess I need to find a coustom rom to run so it will stablize.
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I have an update on my Moment...
I'm still using Keebler 3.0 rom but this time I updated the opengl drivers and overclocked it to 1060mhz. I'm getting 10's for linpack and quadrant scores are around 510.
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wow.. my girlfriend has a moment and shes always talkin about how terrible it is. im trying to get her to trust me and let me root it and load a custom rom. if i do im gonna throw the keebler rom on it. 1060mhz, 10+ mflops?? i think i might steal her phone.
Didn't like the moment because of the slide-out keyboard

lol go att captivate!

x Samsung Galaxy S GPS + other improvements for Samsung ATT Captivate are HERE! Today - next few weeks OTA notification will be sent to customers! 11 minutes ago ยท via HootSuite
Thanks for the support TMO!
Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Doubt that because the still have no information about any of the update...
Android Central comments about the Captivate updates don't sound to impressive. issues with not installing and still GPS issues after the update?
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
Emama said:
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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its not only gps. The Update Suppose to Improve The Battery Life as Well.
Emama said:
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
jz9833 said:
it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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WIndows 7 phone? LOL no thank you. i ll stick with my vibrant. i think the hardware in that phone is very advanced than what is in g2. we just need software updates that will fix the bugs.
jz9833 said:
it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.
tmobile is throwing Samsung under the bus, I got this back from a message I sent to Tmobiles facebook a bit ago..
Robert,
We understand your interest on updates Samsung is working on one and as soon as we have any more information on this we will communicate it.
.. notice they say that Samsung is working on one, I did ask about 2.2 though and not the gps fix.
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You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.
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Honestly, my biggest regret was leaving at&t. I left because I wasn't interested in an iphone, I noticed no good new WM apps were coming along, and I wanted a 3.5 mm headphone jack on my phone. The nexus filled all those needs so when it was released I jumped ship to t-mobile. I found out the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
I still have no idea why people say T-Mobiles customer support is better than AT&T; from everything I've seen it isn't even close.
Someone else posted on here before about T-Mobiles BB getting upgraded to V.5 not too long ago.. they have 6 out or it's close to release. T-Mobile does lack in this "Software/Firmware" Update department. They have some decent phones but don't support them enough.
It's amazing, when the G1 came out, yes it was the first Android phone but updates rolled out pretty quick. I know it was stock "Vanilla" Android but updates were addressed in a timely manor. But now they have the My Touch, My Touch Slide and Cliq series and now the Galaxy S phone.
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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If you don't like the post why reply?
speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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So what its perfectly ok for other Galaxy S phones that haven't been out as long as the Vibrant to be getting their updates, but not us? Honestly, I really think it has to do a lot with TMO and not Sammy. Luckily, I've rooted and running a custom ROM and Voodoo fix. I also know that doing that is not for everyone though.
The Captivate came out what like 3 days after the Vibrant? Maybe tmo and Samsung are waiting to see how the update goes on the Captivate. It wont matter anyways we could get it tomorrow and people will still complain that it's not 2.2 or their phone is still not fast enough or some other bullcrap.
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speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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Your joking right? First almost 2 1/2 months. Second the others all got a update as mentioned.
All other phones with 1ghz are running froyo, even a hd2 without android has it.lom
I vote we get /b/ to start ****. Maybe then we might get some movement from T-Mo and Samsung... just me? >.>
not that it will do anything to Tmobile but I've decided that whoever gets 2.2 on the Galaxy S device first is who I will be switching to. If its Tmobile then I won't be going anywhere, but if another carrier can get it out before Tmobile see ya.
Tmobile launched this device First int he US there is no reason they should not be the first to release the OS update even if it takes them till November
I do agree that they need to support their phones better. But at least TMO isn't forcing bing down our throats either.
I come from the Blackberry side of the fence and I remember when 5.0 devices were new last year it took forever for TMO to release an update for the 9700, and that original release was filled with bugs. I finally gave up on waiting for them and simply downloaded another carrier's release. Easy to do on that platform.
I like the Vibrant for the most part. Yes it has bugs; yes it's quality needs to be improved. Yes the GPS kind of sucks. But what other high-end phone out there doesn't have issues these days? I'm sure the G2 will have them as well.

[Q] Worth the effort to go Android for 6 months

I'm probably looking at a new phone in about 6 months, maybe less. My HTC Touch is old and I'd love to see some of the new Android builds and software.
My question is, is it worth it to put the effort into finding, flashing, and tweaking a ROM for such a short period of time. More importantly, will the experience on this much older hardware be worth it considering my upgrade will likely be much newer and more powerful hardware-wise.
Along those lines, is a fully tricked out Android Touch worthy of forgoing the newest 4G phones and thus avoiding the $10 surcharge, assuming that my current 3G web browsing is tolerable as long as I get over the screen size issue?
Thank you in advance for any thoughts you have.
Android on vogue is totally worth it. it runs really nicely. not as nice as a new phone, but, hey - you've already got it. and it's pretty easy to get installed. you can always run it via haret for a week or two to 'try before you buy'
Yes, it runs nicely, although because of the somewhat low resolution, some apps are cut off like robo defense, but it's playable. (also kitten cannon, makes the menu buttons all squished up but it is still playable). Remember to use the NAND method because while i used the sd card method, its SUCKED. And you can test out android and all to see if you like it. Not sure if you can do this, but to my understanding you can use a phone for like 30 days and then return it if you don't like it. but that might only be if you are getting a new plan with a new carrier or something.
Thanks for the answers and for the tip on which method to use.
BestHubris said:
Thanks for the answers and for the tip on which method to use.
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One last thing, if you are thinking about getting a device with 4G to eventually ditch your Vogue, make sure that you do it when 4G is available in your area. Otherwise, you will find those extra $10 per month to be a cause for rage against an otherwise really good carrier.
The Vogue should be perfectly fine as long as you can use it.
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One last thing, if you are thinking about getting a device with 4G to eventually ditch your Vogue, make sure that you do it when 4G is available in your area. Otherwise, you will find those extra $10 per month to be a cause for rage against an otherwise really good carrier.
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Speaking from personal experience?
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Speaking from personal experience?
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lol, how could you tell?
I try to water down my rage with apps and Angry Birds
egzthunder1 said:
lol, how could you tell?
I try to water down my rage with apps and Angry Birds
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A fine remedy, sir.
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Keep Coming Back...

I find myself constantly refreshing the android dev forum, scouring thru developers websites, and stalking their twitter pages, looking for an update to the latest ROM. I almost never use my vibrant for what it is anymore...a phone! This website has ruined me. I spend my whole day pressing F5 over and over and over. Flashing, reflashing, flashing, reflashing, ERROR, ODIN, flashing, reflashing. Im sick, i need help. I can see it now....FOX news reporting "Kids trying new drug...street name "XDA"." Its a massacre.
haha jk
Lol im the same way is there a cure im I think im dying little by little lol great post
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For real dude I was watching a medical show as well a looking through xda and heard the heart rate monitor in the background and cause I've done so much to this phone I thought I did something wrong I put it up to my ear like oh crap that can't be good and my wife was like that's the tv dumb ass
This site did take me off of facebook though so I've got that going for me I'm in love with my vibrant there it at least has vibrant in the thread once edit: twice
Constantly Drinking
Whats even worse I'm getting a laptop just for the purpose of having odin handy..24 hours being a dad and working 24 hours xda and modding cause of course this site has a mobile app my days are so much longer now
Constantly Drinking
I want to agree with everyone's elses comments on here. I feel like all the other people on this subject. Looking for the next best ROM for the phone. Always trying to make it better.
"hi my name is all ~g1, and yes, yes ... I am an addict!" :tear:
Now that the froyo storm has passed & R12 is in the recalibration stage I think, or at least I hope, I'll keep the staking down by half. I'm happy, for now.
Waiting patiently for 2.3 nexus $ release... Lol.
Yes I'm in this boat as well. My wife keeps yelling at me to put the damn phone down. She even complained to her therapist about my flash addiction!
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also ever since i started flashing roms i feel the need to learn how to create my own roms and modifications. Luckily my laziness overcomes this feeling, but still.
roguly said:
also ever since i started flashing roms i feel the need to learn how to create my own roms and modifications. Luckily my laziness overcomes this feeling, but still.
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No kidding right as soon as I get my laptop I think I'm going to try to make live wallpapers or something like that at least I won't feel like I'm wasting time although everyone else that I know that has a vibrant ain't got $#&! On mine they ask me what I did I say read things on xda for a month and a half ps reading for hours on end for a month straight = a whole lot of reading
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No kidding right as soon as I get my laptop I think I'm going to try to make live wallpapers or something like that at least I won't feel like I'm wasting time although everyone else that I know that has a vibrant ain't got $#&! On mine they ask me what I did I say read things on xda for a month and a half ps reading for hours on end for a month straight = a whole lot of reading
Constantly Drinking
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haha true. but my friends dont know **** about technical stuff and most of them just have messaging phones (LG Vu, Sharp FX, blah blah) so if i try to explain anything about my phone to them there like clueless haha. And im not even going to bother talking to people who have an iphone. I wonder that spell they are put under when they buy that phone so that no matter what, they think there phone is 100x better than anyone else's when its not lol. but this isnt a iphone bashing thread so ill leave it at that.
Feel the same way dude. Its the new drug of choice.
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Feel the same way dude. Its the new drug of choice.
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well, maybe the second drug of choice lol jk
lol this is also what's happening to me today! especially the froyo roms are on the hype today. when i wake up the very first thing that i will do is to look if there's an update on the development section.
Hi my name is 12paq.
I have been modding hard since my Pocket PC days. I have increased to 8-10 hours a day since getting my Vibrant and trying flashing for the first time. Don't blame Odin or Rom Manager, they are just delivery devices.
My wife has left me, my daughter won't talk to me and my dog left me for another dude. (Sounds like all Country music).
I refuse to believe I have a problem. It is everyone else that has a problem!
Now back to reading XDA. Tonight I'm mixing it with top shelf Gin for extra buzz. Now leave me alone!
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Xda was like crack for me (I love crack ) back when I had my g1. It was awful, hours and hours each day, up all night. I was so burnt out I was actually relieved to get the mytouch 3g and keep it stock, I finally realized how great android just is, of course I flashed update zips early but I didn't modify it, I finally rooted my nexus to try 720 which completely blew but that's it I love my vibrant and I want froyo bad but these threads are the same as they were back with my g1, there's always an issue, there just isn't any rom as stable as stock, the ones that are close are basically stock anyway so what's the point? Faster maybe, but not as stable. Anytime I check a rom thread people are asking for help, that crap has helped me stay on the wagon. If there was a froyo zip for unroored vibrants though, I'd jump on it...
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Xda was like crack for me (I love crack ) back when I had my g1. It was awful, hours and hours each day, up all night. I was so burnt out I was actually relieved to get the mytouch 3g and keep it stock, I finally realized how great android just is, of course I flashed update zips early but I didn't modify it, I finally rooted my nexus to try 720 which completely blew but that's it I love my vibrant and I want froyo bad but these threads are the same as they were back with my g1, there's always an issue, there just isn't any rom as stable as stock, the ones that are close are basically stock anyway so what's the point? Faster maybe, but not as stable. Anytime I check a rom thread people are asking for help, that crap has helped me stay on the wagon. If there was a froyo zip for unroored vibrants though, I'd jump on it...
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Hate too pull you off the wagon but T-Moble and Sammy aren't known for their well vetted bug free updates. The ones on XDA seem better supported. Many fans here of many Froyo updates. Just wait and don't be the first to try the first version unless you want to play beta tester, a good cause too.
I'm using Tmo stock 2.2 fro Eugene with Klang kernel and it rocks with far less bugs then any crud official. You see the complaints here way more then the successes.
Come on... try it... I dare ya... just once you'll like it...
This **** spreads too. I got one of my friends hooked on flashing custom roms to his old WinMo phone and he's now followed my footsteps and picked up a Vibrant because of how much he loves to play with the new roms I flash every week. I have another friend who's on AT&T who has been following the Captivate forum so he is now wanting to get one so that he can try the xda drug for himself. Haha!
I think I'd make a good dealer
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I think I'd make a good dealer
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I have four friends here at work who has a Vibrant since I picked one up. People always asks me about Android phones here as well because they like what they see.
I'll join you in the Dealer club!
I tried to get my doctor to understand my sickness, and maybe find some medication. But....while researching this disease he just became addicted himself and now has closed his practice and i have yet to hear from him...
This was a fun post to joke around on and a really positive antithesis to some of the negative garbage dumping going on on this site now.
Thanks for the laughs!
We probably scared some people too, snicker snicker...

Moving Forward

Hey everyone. I really don't know how to say this, nor do I think anyone will even care because I'm practically a ghost to the forums, but I just wanted to make a thread and thank everyone here from the past and present for the good year and a half-or so that I've been here on the E4G forums. Last night while randomly browsing some Sprint forums for the Galaxy Nexus (I just love to peek at other phones to see what's going on with them), I came across a post saying you can text the word 'upgrade' to the number 1311 to find out if your eligible for an upgrade or not. While this may be common knowledge to the masses, I did not know this and texted the number. Low and behold, I was indeed eligible for an upgrade! With that being said, money was definitely an issue here because I am flat broke, so my upgrade options were limited. From Sprint's website I could choose from a free SGS3, an LG Optimus G, or a Sprint Vital. And maybe something else I'm forgetting. I planned on going with the S3 because it had the most developer support from anything else listed. However, I went to a Sprint store, and it was only free for a new line. That, and also the only free phones Sprint offered me from the store was a Sprint Vital, or a iPhone 4S.
So I went to Best Buy. They offered me a few more options, a couple being the Samsung Galaxy Victory 4G (Which has NO support whatsoever), the Vital once again, and the Optimus G. So... I went with the Optimus G. I've been reading that is pretty much a branded/skinned Nexus 4.
Its definitely...... Nice. Fast as all **** most definitely, fluid, and sexy. The development for the LGOG is kinda weak at best, but it's getting there. There's CM10.1 builds for it, as well as some AOKP builds, so there's that. I definitely need to get a screen protector and case for it though.
Alright, this is way longer than I wanted it to be, so I'm gonna end it here. Thanks for all the roms and memories guys. I'll still be around because the LGOG Dev scene is kinda whack at the moment, and I plan on holding on to my Epic for quite a while. So...... Yeah, lol.
Stay gold, everyone.
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If I recall correctly, xboxfanj got an LGOG as well, so hopefully he can get some nice stuff going for you guys
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Man... I wish I could've gotten a GNex or something >_<
Rooting this thing has been nothing but a complete pain in ass. While there is a sort of a one click root kinda thing, which did work, it was finnicky as hell. And after that, throwing on a custom rom is even worse. It really seems like a 50/50 chance the ROM will boot, not because of user error, but because the phone really just seems unstable and not rom-friendly like our good old Epics are. I dunno, maybe because this phone is still relatively new or something, but this is definitely the biggest headache I've come across with Android at all. :banghead:
The stock rom is retardedly fast and fluid, yes, but this thing needs an AOSP rom on it.
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I think I remember reading somewhere that there's some sort of hardware mod to basically make it a nexus 4. Like use Nexus 4 radios, Roms, etc. Only I'm not sure if such a mod would exist.
Never mind, only gsm versions can do it, I totally forgot about that part.
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jeffreyjicha said:
I think I remember reading somewhere that there's some sort of hardware mod to basically make it a nexus 4. Like use Nexus 4 radios, Roms, etc. Only I'm not sure if such a mod would exist.
Never mind, only gsm versions can do it, I totally forgot about that part.
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Yeah I seen that mod in the AT&T OG forums, and it looked pretty damn sweet. I finally got my OG running a CM10.1 build, so I practically have a Nexus 4 at this point
The only thing I've noticed about the AOSP roms is an extremely low signal reading, no matter where I am. Us always either at two bars or one, haven't seen 3 or above not once. But as long as it doesn't actually affect data speeds or calls I guess, lol.
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