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[Q] Any way to enhance experience for now?

Received my Galaxy S4 early today and i must say I'm extremely frustrated. I'm so used to the incredibly efficient CM10 on my old S3 that i'm finding this phone nearly impossible to tolerate. I'd like to play with it but every time i pick it up all the cluttering and bloatware drives me insane.
Is there anyway to at least remove the ATT and Samsung stuff before we have roots and roms?

Thrashavich said:
Received my Galaxy S4 early today and i must say I'm extremely frustrated. I'm so used to the incredibly efficient CM10 on my old S3 that i'm finding this phone nearly impossible to tolerate. I'd like to play with it but every time i pick it up all the cluttering and bloatware drives me insane.
Is there anyway to at least remove the ATT and Samsung stuff before we have roots and roms?
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can't you just disable them in the settings>apps menu area? I don't have an S4 but i remember with the S3 u can do that

For now, i think you should root it to get rid of the bloatware, and try a custom launcher such as the nova launcher

JaeKay said:
For now, i think you should root it to get rid of the bloatware, and try a custom launcher such as the nova launcher
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I don't think there is a working root yet. I could be wrong.

jem417 said:
I don't think there is a working root yet. I could be wrong.
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Im sure there is one, look in the development subthread. but no bootloader unlocking yet.

Thrashavich said:
Received my Galaxy S4 early today and i must say I'm extremely frustrated. I'm so used to the incredibly efficient CM10 on my old S3 that i'm finding this phone nearly impossible to tolerate. I'd like to play with it but every time i pick it up all the cluttering and bloatware drives me insane.
Is there anyway to at least remove the ATT and Samsung stuff before we have roots and roms?
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Gotta agree, the amount of bloatware on this phone is absolutely astounding.
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And this is why I hate AT&T. Went with the US unlocked version of the HTC One. No AT&T crap = win. Too bad Samsung isn't offering unlocked / developer versions here in the States like HTC is.

gtg465x said:
And this is why I hate AT&T. Went with the US unlocked version of the HTC One. No AT&T crap = win. Too bad Samsung isn't offering unlocked / developer versions here in the States like HTC is.
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With your One you could also just flash a custom ROM. Hopefully that will be an option for GS4 users soon too.
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With your One you could also just flash a custom ROM. Hopefully that will be an option for GS4 users soon too.
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Didn't even have to because I got the unlocked version though :laugh:. People with the AT&T version are unlocking and flashing to the firmware that came on mine. And they payed more for theirs if they didn't have an upgrade available :silly:. Haha

Are there two variants of the Sprint S4 and is there...

and is anyone experiencing any lag? I seem to get more than normal. I've had it two weeks and now considering to get an HTC One....

Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.

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Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
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Yeah, I agree. I hope there is an update soon. Rooting it does make a difference in speed though. But I don't really want to keep it rooted unless I have to.

mmmajor said:
Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
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That's very very weird. I have used both plenty. And the S4 is plenty faster then the One. I went onto AOSP right away tho on my S4 so that might be it. All the people complaining about lag were on the original shipped out software on the phone. From what I have read though, the latest update to TW fixed all the lag. And it's not that they didn't optimize the software, it was only the first week of the phone being out give them a break.
And anyways, on Stock my phone runs u believably fast with literally not a sliver of lag :/ I've owned every Galaxy and my best friend has owned quite a few of the latest HTC devices, IMHO only thing The One arguably has on the S4 is build quality, and that's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think the One is a big clunk of metal and I actually love the build of the S4, didn't like the S3 but they squared it out with the S4.
Ooops sorry about the rant. And not trying to start a competition or flame war about the devices, both are top end and great phones, every one loves what they love, and what I love has nothing to do with what you want.. As long as your happy with your device who cares.
But really just throw on the latest update or try AOSP, running Slimbean right now absolutely flawlessly.
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I have both as well and the S4 is faster in my testing to. I have no lag either. I took the One back and gor another S4 and gave to my wife.
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inlineboy said:
That's very very weird. I have used both plenty. And the S4 is plenty faster then the One. I went onto AOSP right away tho on my S4 so that might be it. All the people complaining about lag were on the original shipped out software on the phone. From what I have read though, the latest update to TW fixed all the lag. And it's not that they didn't optimize the software, it was only the first week of the phone being out give them a break.
And anyways, on Stock my phone runs u believably fast with literally not a sliver of lag :/ I've owned every Galaxy and my best friend has owned quite a few of the latest HTC devices, IMHO only thing The One arguably has on the S4 is build quality, and that's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think the One is a big clunk of metal and I actually love the build of the S4, didn't like the S3 but they squared it out with the S4.
Ooops sorry about the rant. And not trying to start a competition or flame war about the devices, both are top end and great phones, every one loves what they love, and what I love has nothing to do with what you want.. As long as your happy with your device who cares.
But really just throw on the latest update or try AOSP, running Slimbean right now absolutely flawlessly.
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Keep in mind that after I rooted it, there was no lag but I returned it to stock. Thereby the lag returned. You say that there was an update. How would I know if I received the update? It's likely that I received it already and still experiencing the lag. It's also likely the other poster may have received the update as well.

heyjoojoo said:
Keep in mind that after I rooted it, there was no lag but I returned it to stock. Thereby the lag returned. You say that there was an update. How would I know if I received the update? It's likely that I received it already and still experiencing the lag. It's also likely the other poster may have received the update as well.
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Simply getting root access shouldn't change levels of lag or the lack of it. Is that all you did, root it?
Check your firmware version in about phone, the latest is MDL, its still rolling out so if your still having lag that's most likely why.
If you don't know that you received it. You didn't. A notification pops up saying a system update is available and you have to click and click accept the update. It doesn't just update itself.
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Mine was extremely laggy, I was contemplating taking it back and getting my One back that I turned in for the s4 because of it then I came on here and found about the update that is apparently semi hidden because you have to clear Google frameworks app data to get it but after the update my phone Flys almost as fast as the One...... It is noticeably faster than before the update
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Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.

carnivalrejectq said:
Mine was extremely laggy, I was contemplating taking it back and getting my One back that I turned in for the s4 because of it then I came on here and found about the update that is apparently semi hidden because you have to clear Google frameworks app data to get it but after the update my phone Flys almost as fast as the One...... It is noticeably faster than before the update
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Does anyone know if the update breaks root and or the boatloader?
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heyjoojoo said:
Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
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The person was strictly talking about rooting not installing a ROM. Which is true all rooting does is open up your device for total control of the phone, from there you can do many things to help with the lag, but just rooting wouldn't affect lag. Not everyone installs a ROM after rooting.
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If you have lag than you dont have the update.....and yes the update will give you trouble with root. But there are workarounds...... I personally unrooted to get the update. Going to run this for a bit until my next move....
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heyjoojoo said:
Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
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You misunderstood me. I didn't say anything about tweaks, flashing roms, kernels, or anything. I said root, referring to simply giving yourself superuser access.
That has nothing anything performance wise. It's just granting yourself root access. So when you said your performance and lag changed when you rooted, I was under the impression you only rooted. You didn't say you flashed a different rom and it was faster, just that you rooted.
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inlineboy said:
You misunderstood me. I didn't say anything about tweaks, flashing roms, kernels, or anything. I said root, referring to simply giving yourself superuser access.
That has nothing anything performance wise. It's just granting yourself root access. So when you said your performance and lag changed when you rooted, I was under the impression you only rooted. You didn't say you flashed a different rom and it was faster, just that you rooted.
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Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?

heyjoojoo said:
Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
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Look at your build number the newest version ends in mdl. No offense but how do you know how to root and ROM but don't know how to look at what build number you are on.
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heyjoojoo said:
Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
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I said check version in "About Phone"! If your on MDC, its probably why, MDL seemed to fix all the issues with any lag anyone was having!
Either way, you still have access to the AOSP roms which are running great right now, and Team Venum is going to be coming out with some great TW roms this weekendish so look out for those!
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GiantJay said:
Look at your build number the newest version ends in mdl. No offense but how do you know how to root and ROM but don't know how to look at what build number you are on.
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How would one determine that MDL is the "latest" build? There is no date associated with those letters.

heyjoojoo said:
How would one determine that MDL is the "latest" build? There is no date associated with those letters.
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Your right. But that is a code for the date. M=2013 d=4th month April L= day of month 12th
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GiantJay said:
Your right. But that is a code for the date. M=2013 d=4th month April L= day of month 12th
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Huh?

heyjoojoo said:
Huh?
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He's answering your question. Mdl is tje latest. Sammy used tje letter as build dates. M=2013 d=April and l=day of month.
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New S4

I was going to upgrade tomorrow. The guy at the store said they got a shipment of S4s two days ago. Does anyone know if the devices are shipping with MF3 yet? Anyone who got a new one recently have any info?
Also, if it doesn't have MF3, do I have to do anything to keep it from installing? I saw some people saying not to use the phone til I'm home and can root it and freeze the update app. They claim the upgrade will automatically happen without my consent. Other people claim the upgrade requires user approval.
Thanks guys, I really want root so this is a deal breaker for me The guy at the store assured me all phones get updates when I asked if they were up to date. I didn't want to elaborate I didn't want that though haha.

blastagator said:
I was going to upgrade tomorrow. The guy at the store said they got a shipment of S4s two days ago. Does anyone know if the devices are shipping with MF3 yet? Anyone who got a new one recently have any info?
Also, if it doesn't have MF3, do I have to do anything to keep it from installing? I saw some people saying not to use the phone til I'm home and can root it and freeze the update app. They claim the upgrade will automatically happen without my consent. Other people claim the upgrade requires user approval.
Thanks guys, I really want root so this is a deal breaker for me The guy at the store assured me all phones get updates when I asked if they were up to date. I didn't want to elaborate I didn't want that though haha.
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If you are fortunate enough to get an S4 with AMDL firmware, then I'd root it and freeze the AT&T updater with Titanium Backup. Keep in mind, you'll probably want to flash a custom rom because the stock AT&T software is so laggy it almost makes the device unusable.

MattMJB0188 said:
If you are fortunate enough to get an S4 with AMDL firmware
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I don't plan on buying it if it doesn't. I just want to make sure it stays that way. I don't want to drive home, pull it out of my pocket, and discovered it auto-updated or some other horrible thing.

blastagator said:
I don't plan on buying it if it doesn't. I just want to make sure it stays that way. I don't want to drive home, pull it out of my pocket, and discovered it auto-updated or some other horrible thing.
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I don't think it can automatically update unless you agree to it. But be careful with the very clueless at&t reps, because they might actually update your phone for you.

Check the box. It will show the firmware revision number right on it. I recently got my replacement through Asurion, and it was MDL.
And yeah, like the others said, don't let him/her update the phone. They may wish to place test calls, but as soon as you have it in-hand, just turn off Mobile Data and the WiFi. You don't need those to place test calls.

Thanks. I have 14 days to bring it back even if things go horribly wrong. However, I am trading in my Infuse which I won't be able to get back. So I'm not sure what I'd do if I had to go down that road.
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Check the box.
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Thanks!
I'll report back tomorrow. To confirm: MDL and MDB are both good, MF3 is bad?

Aou said:
Check the box. It will show the firmware revision number right on it. I recently got my replacement through Asurion, and it was MDL.
And yeah, like the others said, don't let him/her update the phone. They may wish to place test calls, but as soon as you have it in-hand, just turn off Mobile Data and the WiFi. You don't need those to place test calls.
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This is correct. Says it right under SGH-i337. Mine says: SW-VER: i337UCUAMDL

I am using hox and i will change it to the s4 cuz i would like to change my battery.
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blastagator said:
Thanks. I have 14 days to bring it back even if things go horribly wrong. However, I am trading in my Infuse which I won't be able to get back. So I'm not sure what I'd do if I had to go down that road.
Thanks!
I'll report back tomorrow. To confirm: MDL and MDB are both good, MF3 is bad?
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Correct. MDL and MDB are fine, but if your on MDB I am not sure if the update for MDL will come through. MDB was absolutely horrible, beyond horrible actually. Everything lagged, everything was choppy, and the modem sucked. MDL was an improvement, but nothing drastic. I hear MF3 is really good, it just kills root and loki.

MattMJB0188 said:
Correct. MDL and MDB are fine, but if your on MDB I am not sure if the update for MDL will come through. MDB was absolutely horrible, beyond horrible actually. Everything lagged, everything was choppy, and the modem sucked. MDL was an improvement, but nothing drastic. I hear MF3 is really good, it just kills root and loki.
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It is possible to manually use Odin to get up to MDL version. Let it be known that the MF3 patch will check to be sure you are on MDL at least, so I can't see that they would pull that OTA any time soon.
As a last resort, I have a copy of the MDL update that you could theoretically just flash with a custom recovery.

ROM Suggestions? I'm prepping for tomorrow's surgery. Speed would be number one priority. Also I like lockscreen clock and % battery in the top bar. Other than that, I'm not picky.
I eyeballed goldeneye but it doesn't seem to have % battery, and it retains TW, which most people seem to dislike?

Be wary of speed. It's the enemy and number one culprit of many problems here on xda. If you're device is running MDL, simply make sure it is charged and pull the sim. Then begin your rooting, etc. Check out the I337 guide in my signature. All steps are important.
Touchwiz roms are in Android development, aosp roms are in original Android development. Cheers

xBeerdroiDx said:
Be wary of speed. It's the enemy and number one culprit of many problems here on xda. If you're device is running MDL, simply make sure it is charged and pull the sim. Then begin your rooting, etc. Check out the I337 guide in my signature. All steps are important.
Touchwiz roms are in Android development, aosp roms are in original Android development. Cheers
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Ah sorry, speed of the ROM and thus my phone. I'm not trying to rush through the steps and brick my phone ; )

I got my s4 today via best buy and no mf3
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I updated mine and am pretty content with it. It is much smoother than the original software and the phone overall works great. I guess if you want an unlocked s4 you need to buy the Google one or a Canada one if possible.
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Whoops, sorry!
In case anyone is curious, the ATT store told me they got this batch in a couple days ago, and they were all MDL.

blastagator said:
Whoops, sorry!
In case anyone is curious, the ATT store told me they got this batch in a couple days ago, and they were all MDL.
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Congrats!!! Root it before you put your sim card.
Check this root method out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297033

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Congrats!!! Root it before you put your sim card.
Check this root method out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297033
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I used : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Super noob friendly : )

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I used : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Super noob friendly : )
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That'll work. Try out the rom GoldenEye

[Q] Trade-In Rooted Phone

Does it matter if i trade in a rooted phone into a Best Buy or other stores without unroot. I have no saved information in the phone and have removed sim card. If they accept it do i have to be concerned with the fact its running a rom. Help guys thanks?

I wouldn't worry about it. I traded in my og Atrix to the Att corporate store and it was running cm.
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capathy21 said:
I wouldn't worry about it. I traded in my og Atrix to the Att corporate store and it was running cm.
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Guess I am asking from a legal point of view. Not concerned with privacy cause I emptied it out. I own the phone, its mine

You own it. So no. You have nothing to worry about.

When they get your phone I think they either recycle or refurbish it so I'm pretty sure that the content of the phone doesn't matter so long as the parts of the phone are functioning.
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I wouldn't worry about it. Sprint bought my S2 that was rooted back from me. They don't care at all.

Only problem is if you were going to give ur phone to someone with it being rooted. The new owner won't be able to port his/her number to the rooted phone.
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Sorry new to these forums

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Sorry new to these forums
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No worries...thus the "Friendly" part of my nick...lol.

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No worries...thus the "Friendly" part of my nick...lol.
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Your thoughts in my question?

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Your thoughts in my question?
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AFAIK all trade-ins are immediately sent to a refurb center and flashed with the latest stock software available to them, wiping the phone. Then packaged up as refurbs and put on the shelf. Best Buy cares least of all...lol. Unless there is a dishonest nosy tech going through phones you wouldn't even need to worry about wiping....ofc you absolutely should wipe data though.

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AFAIK all trade-ins are immediately sent to a refurb center and flashed with the latest stock software available to them, wiping the phone. Then packaged up as refurbs and put on the shelf. Best Buy cares least of all...lol. Unless there is a dishonest nosy tech going through phones you wouldn't even need to worry about wiping....ofc you absolutely should wipe data though.
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I did wipe wipe just left a rooted rom on it. Is that okay?

primo523 said:
Only problem is if you were going to give ur phone to someone with it being rooted. The new owner won't be able to port his/her number to the rooted phone.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with changing service on the device.
The number will go to the device regardless of wether or not it is rooted.
Some custom ROMs do not support the programming codes necessary to get the phone working correctly, but to just generalize and say they cant use it because it is rooted is totally incorrect. A rooted device with stock firmware would work absolutely fine.

I agree that it shouldn't matter but with the few minutes it takes to flash a stock image why not just return it to stock.
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TonyTurboII said:
That has absolutely nothing to do with changing service on the device.
The number will go to the device regardless of wether or not it is rooted.
Some custom ROMs do not support the programming codes necessary to get the phone working correctly, but to just generalize and say they cant use it because it is rooted is totally incorrect. A rooted device with stock firmware would work absolutely fine.
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sorry. I was speaking of personal experience. When I went to the sprint store to upgrade to a new phone and give my wife my s2 the lady said the number won't transfer because u are rooted. This is when I had first started out with xda not knowing I could just go back to stock from a custom rom with no issues. Please forgive my ignorance o great moderator.
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I did wipe wipe just left a rooted rom on it. Is that okay?
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Yes. Like I stated they just make sure it turns on then it is sent to have original stock flashed on it. It is easier for them to just odin a stock image than worry if it is rooted, corrupted or whatever. Also as @crawrj stated you could just quickly Odin it yourself and be done with it.

crawrj said:
I agree that it shouldn't matter but with the few minutes it takes to flash a stock image why not just return it to stock.
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This is precisely what I just did this past weekend with my E4GT. I flashed a stock FI27 image and wiped the phone with a factory reset before taking into BB. The BB mobile rep noticed (and commented) that I had done a factory reset but other than that they just checked the phone out to insure all the buttons were operational and gave it an inspection for damage. They even removed the Zagg screen protector from it...

Possible AT&T N3 Safestrap?

I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/

Yea it's been a while homie... The creator of it is working on trying to achieve it in our device as well
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I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
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Oh man let's hope for the best. This is all kind of new to me having these issues. Even my One X was a pain in the ass, but not THIS bad with unlocking.

Will safe strap include being able to flash a kernel? That's honestly the #1 reason for an unlocked bootloader for me. I love playing around with cpu and gpu parameters trying to achieve best battery to performance. Plus faux123 has his kernel and coming from it with a nexus 4 I wish I had it on this device.

Safe strap will not allow kernel flashing. Only ROMs. It high-jacks boot up and redirects the device to boot from a secondary partition you create on the internal memory. You will lose space on internal memory to use safestrap. Although the Verizon folks (me included) have been able to overwrite the factory partition to avoid space lose. If you want to flash kernels you need to drop the 700 dollars on development edition of the phone. I can't believe how dead the development thread is for this device I was just looking for some options for a friend of mine who just got his AT&T N3.
I got more jelly beans than jelly belly, on my S3, S4, and both my Notes

Guess I should have stuck with nexus. Oh well ill trade the ability to flash kernels and roms for a removable battery and an sd card and large screen.

I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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Jayster0966 said:
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.

LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.

tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I would be shocked, but thanks. I hope your right because this sucks. I want to run Jedi bad.

tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I have a locked S4 and have been waiting since I got it the wait will be long.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Agreed +1
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Will be a nice xmas gift to have an unlocked bootloader. 3 month mark should be a good gauge as to whether it will ever happen
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:

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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.

9wire said:
They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
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good news...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/105617-safestrap-for-the-n3-vzw-and-att-testing-started/?p=1567258