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Hi. I'd like to completely image my wildfire before rooting so that I have an image of it before I did anything. Just in case. Is it possible with soft root or unrevoked?
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Hi. I used androot to get a soft root. Any way to backup rom?
You could use adb to extract the whole tree, but it won't preserve permissions so will be useless.
Short answer: no. Do a proper root.
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Yes, but the thing is that I want the ROM preserved completely as-is, with no custom recovery or anything. Say, something got broken in hardware, so to get the phone serviced I'd need to flash the stock ROM back on. I heard they don't even check the recovery, but if someone did I'd be in trouble.
On my Linux, I used "dd if=/dev/sda of=/root/hddimg" to get the byte-for-byte copy of my HDD. Will that work in Android as well?
EDIT: Of course I didn't mean /dev/sda, the ROM device is another one, right?
i don't think you can with soft root, you can dl titanium backup and save all your apps and settings on your sd card, but that won't backup your entire rom. i would just do a full root, im not that clumsy enough to kill my phone
you can also use the ruu to go back to your stock rom, but use the right one in case you lose root
I'm looking for a way of backing up my Vodafone Rom so when I install a sim free one I can restore all settings if I ever need to send if off for warranty, it won't void it.
Anything I can do???
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This doesn't make sense.
You can't ROOT a device, surely, without flashing the ROM?
So... ROOTING the device, by flashing the ROM, and THEN you want to backup the entire device? This sounds useless, as as soon as you ROOT the device, you've overwritten the original ROM! So how can you backup the Original ROM if you've overwritten it?
Which came first? The Chicken (ROM) or the Egg (Root)?
I didn't flash a ROM to get a root. I used Universal androot which does soft root on wildfire as well. Soft root means just getting root without modifying the system files permanently (ie. Changes disappear at reboot). Secondly, full root like unrevoked only write-unlocks the phone and flashes custom recover y. What I want is to have full backup of the phone WITHOUT the custom recovery so that when I flash it, it is the actual stock ROM. I know this is quite hard to do but I'm sure it is doable one way or another.
Can someone please link me to a thread on step by step Rooting
and backing up my entire device
its my first android phone and took me a long time to install apps n games n contacts a backup would help me a lot.
kindly help thank u
realxception said:
Can someone please link me to a thread on step by step Rooting
and backing up my entire device
its my first android phone and took me a long time to install apps n games n contacts a backup would help me a lot.
kindly help thank u
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if you did a search of the forum or looked around the wildfire threads you'd easily find it... anyway here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788776
to backup your rom you need to do a nandroid backup, to backup apps and data dl titanium backup
I know about nandroid. Don't you have to flash a custom recovery to use it? If so, then the original aim of preserving the ROM completely the way it is becomes broken, right?
xc1024 said:
I know about nandroid. Don't you have to flash a custom recovery to use it? If so, then the original aim of preserving the ROM completely the way it is becomes broken, right?
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Nandroid backs up your original rom, there is no other way to back up without root... unless you use a ruu to return to stock
Aren't RUUs a bit risky to use?
Yes if you use the wrong one. But rooting and flashing a custom rom is not , very simple and not hard
Wildfire is also my first android phone but I easily learnt by reading and searching around the forum.
First off, Hi! Decided to remove myself from Apple's clutches and become a Droid user and the device that swayed me, the Desire HD (just waiting for the stock now from Orange!). Admittedly, Apple have relaxed App approval but I would not use the iPhone without the Jailbreak community and Developers, opens up the device a little for tinkering but the whole Unlock, preserve baseband, Apple update, Jailbreak tools release game has taken it's toll but if honest, it's the personalization for MY DEVICE which is moving me to Android as well as the fiddle ability. Not a fault of the DEV's who work tirelessly and need much applause, time to change and can always return!
So onto some questions, I'm coming on late so please forgive these queries, I've read what I can over the last couple of months!
No doubt I'll be playing with the phone in it's standard guise for a while BUT the time will come when I want to progress further and start ROMing. I'm aware of Visionary by the way, what it can do but the actual facts and what I'll see once complete is where I get lost
Can I restore the phone to factory if temp or perm rooted?
After a month of stock usage (photo's SMS email contacts, usual stuff), how would I get this stuff back if, after rooting (temp or perm) I want to go back to factory or remain rooted i.e different custom ROM?
If I root, do I have to setup everything again? Hard resetting the DHD if using temp root returns the factory ROM? If prem root is applied, how do you return to factory? Where is the factory ROM stored?
I'm not having a go but most of the guides explain the process, think I'm just missing the 'what it actually does?' in Android for Dummies speak. Long as I can backup, restore (yes, I'm used to iTunes taking care of this), apply custom ROM with Sense (requires perm root?), go back if needs be, I'll be a little happier.
No abuse please, I've been Jailbreaking iPhones since their inception so totally up to speed...this is all new and it's the same olde, once fiddled I'll probably laugh at asking! I have bookmarks spread across multiple sites for the DHD, great community and can't wait to get started!!
Cheers
-Chris
Veitchc said:
First off, Hi! Decided to remove myself from Apple's clutches and become a Droid user and the device that swayed me, the Desire HD (just waiting for the stock now from Orange!). Admittedly, Apple have relaxed App approval but I would not use the iPhone without the Jailbreak community and Developers, opens up the device a little for tinkering but the whole Unlock, preserve baseband, Apple update, Jailbreak tools release game has taken it's toll but if honest, it's the personalization for MY DEVICE which is moving me to Android as well as the fiddle ability. Not a fault of the DEV's who work tirelessly and need much applause, time to change and can always return!
So onto some questions, I'm coming on late so please forgive these queries, I've read what I can over the last couple of months!
No doubt I'll be playing with the phone in it's standard guise for a while BUT the time will come when I want to progress further and start ROMing. I'm aware of Visionary by the way, what it can do but the actual facts and what I'll see once complete is where I get lost
Can I restore the phone to factory if temp or perm rooted?
After a month of stock usage (photo's SMS email contacts, usual stuff), how would I get this stuff back if, after rooting (temp or perm) I want to go back to factory or remain rooted i.e different custom ROM?
If I root, do I have to setup everything again? Hard resetting the DHD if using temp root returns the factory ROM? If prem root is applied, how do you return to factory? Where is the factory ROM stored?
I'm not having a go but most of the guides explain the process, think I'm just missing the 'what it actually does?' in Android for Dummies speak. Long as I can backup, restore (yes, I'm used to iTunes taking care of this), apply custom ROM with Sense (requires perm root?), go back if needs be, I'll be a little happier.
No abuse please, I've been Jailbreaking iPhones since their inception so totally up to speed...this is all new and it's the same olde, once fiddled I'll probably laugh at asking! I have bookmarks spread across multiple sites for the DHD, great community and can't wait to get started!!
Cheers
-Chris
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There is an option to unroot in visionary so you dont lose anything..
Rooting alone will not let you flash custom roms or kernels..
You will need
Perm Root
S 0ff
Android sdk - adb/ fastboot
Clockwork Recovery
Now you can easily flash roms and kernels..
The difference from stock is laughable...really...Im using leedroids mod and an overclocked kernel of 1.5ghz..
Quadrant scores of 3000
Linpack 52.149
Neocore 58.7
Crazy scores...my DHD is flying !
rixsta said:
There is an option to unroot in visionary so you dont lose anything..
Rooting alone will not let you flash custom roms or kernels..
You will need
Perm Root
S 0ff
Android sdk - adb/ fastboot
Clockwork Recovery
Now you can easily flash roms and kernels..
The difference from stock is laughable...really...Im using leedroids mod and an overclocked kernel of 1.5ghz..
Quadrant scores of 3000
Linpack 52.149
Neocore 58.7
Crazy scores...my DHD is flying !
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Surely these figures mean nothing without stock to compare with?
ghostofcain said:
Surely these figures mean nothing without stock to compare with?
Anyhow back to question, I would personally recommend installing Titanium backup (requires root) with this you can backup all your apps and data which could be re-installed after hard reset, with certain proviso's
Restoring data may cause problems (especially if swapping to radically different roms)
Certain apps may be firmware specific i.e only work with 2.2.1 not 2.2.x
Whilst using stock firmware avoid any new OTA upgrades, as similar to iOS upgrades they may close off exploits used for obtaining root, also you cannot currently easily downgrade the OS or hBoot so you cannot restore the original OS if you have upgraded from it.
Personally I use ADW launcher, instead of stock (or SENSE) which allows you to backup your desktop configuration and Prefernces, Titanium backup to restore apps and data and sms backup to restore my SMS's, so after flashing a new ROM I restore the apps with data via Titanium then restore the settings with ADW which give me the look back and then restore the SMS's and I'm good to go!
TBH if you can find your way around jailbraking and unlocking an iphone (which from my experience with the Wifes Iphone can be very convoluted) flashing android ROM's is a piece of cake once the original root has been achieved, especially as you don't need to re-root (=Jailbreak) after each OS upgrade provided you stick with custom ROM's
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I didnt put stock because all you need to do is look at the quadrant thread...and I cant remember my stock ones ...i think 2300 give or take.
If you install a custom rom you wont be able to install OTA updates anyway..
The Devs always puts updates in their custom roms so its not a problem.
Titanium is good for backups if you do a format using recovery unless you flash over the stock rom then you will keep them.
Flashing a rom is a piece of cake...its what you need to do to be able to flash a rom thats the hard part unless you know what your doing.
Veitchc said:
No doubt I'll be playing with the phone in it's standard guise for a while BUT the time will come when I want to progress further and start ROMing. I'm aware of Visionary by the way, what it can do but the actual facts and what I'll see once complete is where I get lost
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Not a huge change is what you'll see, Visionary will tell you root is achieved but thats about it, but it's what you can do that matters
Veitchc said:
Can I restore the phone to factory if temp or perm rooted?
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Yes, Visionary has an unroot option, which should put you back to square one, and provided you first produce a nandroid backup, essentially a snapshot of the system as is, when recovery is installed you can always put your ROM back to standard as well
Veitchc said:
After a month of stock usage (photo's SMS email contacts, usual stuff), how would I get this stuff back if, after rooting (temp or perm) I want to go back to factory or remain rooted i.e different custom ROM?
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again Nandroid is your friend
Veitchc said:
If I root, do I have to setup everything again?
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More than likely, although titanium backup maybe be able to restore your settings and google can also back up stuff for you
Veitchc said:
Hard resetting the DHD if using temp root returns the factory ROM?
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if Visionary is not set to attain root on boot yes
Veitchc said:
If prem root is applied, how do you return to factory?
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Unboot with Visionary as long as hBoot has not been flashed
Veitchc said:
Where is the factory ROM stored?
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if you do a NANDROID backup its on your SDcard, if not its been wiped by your custom ROM
Veitchc said:
Long as I can backup, restore (yes, I'm used to iTunes taking care of this), apply custom ROM with Sense (requires perm root?), go back if needs be, I'll be a little happier.
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Nandroid again
Veitchc said:
No abuse please, I've been Jailbreaking iPhones since their inception so totally up to speed...this is all new and it's the same olde, once fiddled I'll probably laugh at asking! I have bookmarks spread across multiple sites for the DHD, great community and can't wait to get started!!
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As long as youve read up, no sensible question will be scorned, well not by most of us anyway, we (with notable exceptions who where born to greatness) where all noobs once, so get on an enjoy the freedom that android brings should be a breathe of fresh air after apple
So I'm going to be getting a new phone here soon (the replacement is in the mail, the power button shorted out on this one) so I'm going to need to re-root and stuff. My question is kinda stupid. I'm assuming if I make a full backup of my phone right now and flash it on the new phone, it's not going to do the rooting stuff, right?
Like I said, stupid question but it's all software in my head so I wanna make sure before I go through the whole rooting process and such xP
If you backup is rooted, then when you restore it's also rooted.
Lennyz1988 said:
If you backup is rooted, then when you restore it's also rooted.
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Awesome! I thought I might have to go through the whole root process to make anything work. Thank you!!
Hi!
I don't know much about root, but I would like to learn so I could use the full potential of Tasker.
1. If Lg is releasing an update (if extremely lucky Android L) will I get that on my rooted device, or has it to be installed manually?
2. Will I lose everything on my phone?
3. Is it possible to reset the phone, in order to get rid of the root?
4. Other dangers by doing this?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks!
EmilEmil.st said:
Hi!
I don't know much about root, but I would like to learn so I could use the full potential of Tasker.
1. If Lg is releasing an update (if extremely lucky Android L) will I get that on my rooted device, or has it to be installed manually?
2. Will I lose everything on my phone?
3. Is it possible to reset the phone, in order to get rid of the root?
4. Other dangers by doing this?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks!
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If you root the phone and LG release an update, it will be available for you to update to (you do not need to update manually). You will lose nothing on your phone by rooting. It is possible to remove root without losing any data. The chances of anything going wrong are very low especially as you are not flashing any ROMs. To be completely safe, you could make a backup beforehand (preferably a NANDROID backup) so that you can restore it if it all goes wrong.
Thanks for the quick reply!
//Emil
prowsterz said:
If you root the phone and LG release an update, it will be available for you to update to (you do not need to update manually). You will lose nothing on your phone by rooting. It is possible to remove root without losing any data. The chances of anything going wrong are very low especially as you are not flashing any ROMs. To be completely safe, you could make a backup beforehand (preferably a NANDROID backup) so that you can restore it if it all goes wrong.
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Hello XDA, long time no visit. I have had my Note 2 catastrophically fail, can't be recovered, nothing, I was told the motherboard was fried. Upgraded to the Note 4, which I love and am fairly happy with just leaving stock (since I have no choice, it's AT&T's version) but I have an issue. I have data in my old TiBu backups that I really would love to recover, but I can't, because I can't root the phone. Does anyone have a creative way of recovering data from TiBu? Or am I just basically screwed, which is where I think this is headed....any help would be greatly appreciated
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Hello XDA, long time no visit. I have had my Note 2 catastrophically fail, can't be recovered, nothing, I was told the motherboard was fried. Upgraded to the Note 4, which I love and am fairly happy with just leaving stock (since I have no choice, it's AT&T's version) but I have an issue. I have data in my old TiBu backups that I really would love to recover, but I can't, because I can't root the phone. Does anyone have a creative way of recovering data from TiBu? Or am I just basically screwed, which is where I think this is headed....any help would be greatly appreciated
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For apps to have some folders in the /data partition require root like TiBu and root is not available for Lollipop. You can try to downgrade to Kitkat from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD50yW8e-EE&feature=youtu.be and use this method to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/supersu-please-t3110954 after rooting with the latest version of kingoroot. Beware that if you downgrade to 4.4.4 it will trigger knox to 0x1 which will invalidate your warranty.
Hi Ann, I'll ask around:good:
Could you setup an emulator, install TiBu, restore then gather data.
I've word about Genymotion. Just a thought.
You could also ask someone to restore for you and send the data, but that comes down to trust. Moderators are trustworthy so I'm sure any of us would be happy to do it and send any data without looking into anything of course.
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Hello XDA, long time no visit. I have had my Note 2 catastrophically fail, can't be recovered, nothing, I was told the motherboard was fried. Upgraded to the Note 4, which I love and am fairly happy with just leaving stock (since I have no choice, it's AT&T's version) but I have an issue. I have data in my old TiBu backups that I really would love to recover, but I can't, because I can't root the phone. Does anyone have a creative way of recovering data from TiBu? Or am I just basically screwed, which is where I think this is headed....any help would be greatly appreciated
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I hate to say it but without root, You know where this is headed. To be honest you will save a ton of time just redoing them.
Partially screwed I say...
All apps don't support the sync adapter for sync data feature.
If you can't sync that data,
what you can do is get a really cheap rootable phone/tablet.
Restore with TiBu
And Sync the data.
Any cheap phone is way better than emulators like Genymotion or AVDs.
For apps which don't use sync adapters ,root permissions are required so it's pointless.