[Q] New Phone and Re-Rooting - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm going to be getting a new phone here soon (the replacement is in the mail, the power button shorted out on this one) so I'm going to need to re-root and stuff. My question is kinda stupid. I'm assuming if I make a full backup of my phone right now and flash it on the new phone, it's not going to do the rooting stuff, right?
Like I said, stupid question but it's all software in my head so I wanna make sure before I go through the whole rooting process and such xP

If you backup is rooted, then when you restore it's also rooted.

Lennyz1988 said:
If you backup is rooted, then when you restore it's also rooted.
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Awesome! I thought I might have to go through the whole root process to make anything work. Thank you!!

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I know if you root you lose your warrenty, but my question is will you still be able to get an insurance replacement? Or is that also void? If you still can get an insurance replacement I don't see a reason not to root. I know for the Fuze I would just have to reinstall the factory rom, does this work the same way on android?
Also if I root and flash a new rom onto my nexus one, will I lose all the apps i bought? I really don't want to have to buy them all again.
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No, the apps you buy are synced with your google account so when you sign back in then you can redownload them.
About insurance, just give it some water damage or something and claim that. Root status or not shouldn't void it.
First off, thank you for your reply.
So my purchased downloads should appear under the downloads tab in the market after I finish flashing a new rom?
Also, just to make sure I have this process down right (trying hard not to brick my phone so please forgive my noobness to andriod, I got so used to WM phones)
First I need to make sure i have all the proper USB drivers.
Next I have to root my phone found in the following link which will wipe my phone also? http://theunlockr.com/2010/01/02/how-to-root-the-nexus-one/
Then I can flash CM 5.0.2 following his first time flash instructions found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623496
I assume this has the recent OTA update already built with in the rom.
Finally I can then install the black bar (reason for doing any of this) found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617336
It says it just has the framework so I really don't know what to do yet, but I'm figuring after I go through this process it will make more sense by then?
I see on some places that it would be a good idea to use nandriod before I root, but when I read the nandroid description it says the phone has to be alreayd rooted. So I'm assuming this would be a waste of time for now?
Is there any way to back up my messages, bookmarks, etc. before I root? If I just have to kiss them good bye I'd understand, but just trying to make sure before I do it.
on most of the things you are correct, the black bar mod, you just flash in recovery after you flash the rom.
technically you can nandroid before you root, unlocking your bootloader and rooting are two separate things. After you unlock your bootloader and flash the recovery image to it, you are not technically rooted and can use the recovery image to make a nandroid of your unrooted phone.
there are a few backup apps in the market for various things. I know there are a few sms backup apps, but am not so sure about bookmarks.
you have the idea of what to do down though

[Q] To brick or not to brick

Noob question... If i install clockwork recovery and do a nand backup, will i be able to restore my phone, no matter what i do to it (software-wise) or can i still brick it?
Im new to rooting and mods and im looking for a way out of trouble if i screw things up.
once you are done with the rooting process, and have clockwork installed as your recovery - it is very very difficult to brick your phone.
if you are dealing with the standard roms here - there is almost no way you can really screw up, to a point where you can't just go back to a functioning nandroid backup.
for further security - i copy my nandroids backups to PC, so if the sdcard ever gets toasted or corrupted - I will still have a good recovery image.
From what I hear you gotta do something really really stupid to brick your phone. If anything I think it's the rooting process that can brick your phone since there's no nandroid yet or if you don't do a proper procedure during a rom flash. Unrevoked makes it painless and easy. I suggest running Ubuntu then rooting because I had trouble with windows. Follow the guides and you're set =)
Edit: Here's the guide I used. Very easy and painless. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741824
really the only way i can see you bricking the phone is if you screw up flashing the recovery/radio or boot image.
Ok so if the power goes out when im flashing my phone its lost right? Even if i have my nand backup. And what about the warranty? If i flash back to my original backup and unroot, will anyone be able to tell i've been messing with my phone?
I don't know that "unrooting" is as easy as just removing the superuser app, and flashing back a stock recovery image. The best way to unroot - is to flash an RUU stock image (which includes the stock recovery, and unrooted system image)
you can find the stock at&t RUU from shipped-roms.com under "liberty"
dexmix said:
I don't know that "unrooting" is as easy as just removing the superuser app, and flashing back a stock recovery image. The best way to unroot - is to flash an RUU stock image (which includes the stock recovery, and unrooted system image)
you can find the stock at&t RUU from shipped-roms.com under "liberty"
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So dumbing this back down to superNoob level, you're saying that I could root my phone and then put it back the way it was later so that AT&T/HTC would be none the wiser?
911jason said:
So dumbing this back down to superNoob level, you're saying that I could root my phone and then put it back the way it was later so that AT&T/HTC would be none the wiser?
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yes.... you can go back to the un-rooted state at any time.... it is quite easy... i have tested this... it took me about five minutes to un-root my phone with the HTC RUU ... everything was stock with all the dang bloat ware and no root .... i then re-rooted and put a nandroid back up on that i made just before un-rooting...

[Q] Nandroid backup on a new handset?

Ok I am doing a warranty claim on my phone through ATT. So I need to unroot my phone and get it back to stock, not a problem. My question is, I have everything backed up using nandroid, to get the new handset I'm getting from ATT to be just like how mine is do I just need to root it then do a nandroid restore?
That "should" load everything back onto the new phone just like my current one is correct?
Thanks guys
Look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728266
Make sure you backup the new phone before trying it, that way you won't have any risk trying it at least.

is it safe to restore rooted gingerblur atrix?

i just got my atrix which happened top be rooted and aparently has gingerblur which i dont like to much
can i do a master restore and not worry about it getting bricked?
sorry if this is a newb question but this is my first android device
Short answer is Yes it is safe.
you can flash a sbf file and be back to stock, there is a lot of info on this board on how to flash an sbf so you should be able to find it pretty easily.
So you wont brick your phone if you follow the directions but you will lose root and sideloading, if you want those you can look into GingerBreak and GladEnable, also on this board to re do those after flashing back to stock
check out this thread for the sbf file you will need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125944
thanks man as i said this id my first android device but i am familiear with jailbreaking on ios but have been told that it is a lot esier to brick something on the android side of things not sure if it is true.
but im refering to the options the phone has on restoring

[Q] root questions

Hi!
I don't know much about root, but I would like to learn so I could use the full potential of Tasker.
1. If Lg is releasing an update (if extremely lucky Android L) will I get that on my rooted device, or has it to be installed manually?
2. Will I lose everything on my phone?
3. Is it possible to reset the phone, in order to get rid of the root?
4. Other dangers by doing this?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks!
EmilEmil.st said:
Hi!
I don't know much about root, but I would like to learn so I could use the full potential of Tasker.
1. If Lg is releasing an update (if extremely lucky Android L) will I get that on my rooted device, or has it to be installed manually?
2. Will I lose everything on my phone?
3. Is it possible to reset the phone, in order to get rid of the root?
4. Other dangers by doing this?
Sorry for my bad english...
Thanks!
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If you root the phone and LG release an update, it will be available for you to update to (you do not need to update manually). You will lose nothing on your phone by rooting. It is possible to remove root without losing any data. The chances of anything going wrong are very low especially as you are not flashing any ROMs. To be completely safe, you could make a backup beforehand (preferably a NANDROID backup) so that you can restore it if it all goes wrong.
Thanks for the quick reply!
//Emil
prowsterz said:
If you root the phone and LG release an update, it will be available for you to update to (you do not need to update manually). You will lose nothing on your phone by rooting. It is possible to remove root without losing any data. The chances of anything going wrong are very low especially as you are not flashing any ROMs. To be completely safe, you could make a backup beforehand (preferably a NANDROID backup) so that you can restore it if it all goes wrong.
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