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I just rooted my Note 3 and I can't find a CWM Recovery for the AT&T version. I've seen ones for N900, but I doubt that it's for the AT&T variant.
And Is there a way to flash custom roms without a recovery like CWM?
No to all of the above. There is an AT&T specific forum for all AT&T related Dev but you'll notice no recoveries and no ROMs yet, only root methods for now.
Your phone has a locked bootloader. That's why..you don't have custom recovery..
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Adrian412 said:
(I hope this is the right forum for this question )
I just rooted my Note 3 and I can't find a CWM Recovery for the AT&T version. I've seen ones for N900, but I doubt that it's for the AT&T variant.
And Is there a way to flash custom roms without a recovery like CWM?
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Have a look here think there's one www.galaxynote3root.com
no cwm for ATT Note 3 STILL.....ugh
jaythenut said:
Have a look here think there's one www.galaxynote3root.com
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Nope. Not for n900a (ATT) STILL.....ugh!
Still no cwm or twrp for note 3 on att (n900a)??
The files here would not install for me
http://goo.im/devs/Hashcode/note3/hlteatt/safestrap
But im not sure they were being downloaded properly and I dont have a pc right now
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Still no cwm or twrp for note 3 on att (n900a)??
The files here would not install for me
http://goo.im/devs/Hashcode/note3/hlteatt/safestrap
But im not sure they were being downloaded properly and I dont have a pc right now
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Not available still. Safestrap is the best you'll get out there still and it works great.
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I dont know why it wasnt installing but I seem to have it now (safe strap). Since it includes twrp, im able to do full backups.. all set for my needs
Thanks!
ryaske said:
I dont know why it wasnt installing but I seem to have it now (safe strap). Since it includes twrp, im able to do full backups.. all set for my needs
Thanks!
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Bingo. It's a bit different but as long as I can backup I don't care and TiBackup isn't the same and frankly I don't like it at all. There's always issues with titanium so I quit using it long ago.
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faslane said:
Bingo. It's a bit different but as long as I can backup I don't care and TiBackup isn't the same and frankly I don't like it at all. There's always issues with titanium so I quit using it long ago.
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I feel like they both have their place. TWRP/CWM image files only restore the whole system. That means you cant even restore the backup to a different model phone. (I use this between warranty replacements of the same make/model)
TWRP also lets me make a backup of the system "as it is"... so if an update is forced to me, I can always just restore a backup to get back to the last one. IT also covers me if I change a setting that screws things up. Especially with SafeStrap .... I can always keep myself running on a virtual partition and just back it up / restore that one to stock as necessary to bail myself out.
TiBu allows me to back up any single file or app, and restore it (AND ALL IT'S DATA) on any android phone what so ever. No reboots, no touching any other files. Sometimes that app isnt ready to work on that new model ... or sometimes system apps cant be restored ...... but otherwise, it is invaluable to get my setup onto the next/upgraded phone with as little setup as is necessary. IT also lets me save older versions of my apps and restore them as necessary. Plus incremental backups means even if my phone and sd card eat **** (lost the phone and not able to recover it), I will have my apps backed up on dropbox. All I need is a new physical Note3+sd card, 2 hours to restore everything, and I'm back in business
I am a paid user of both TWRP and TiBu for this reason
The downside of these apps? They both require you to root. That means you technically void the warranty on your phone. However, there are plenty of methods available to remove all traces .. so in the end, if you care enough to spend the time, you can transform this phone between stock/unrooted/normal/warranty in effect and modified/rooted/customized/warranty void. At will
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Which do you use and why?
I would love to be able to use 4ext. But Nexus 4 seems to be on low priority now.
I'm using the stock recovery but when I need to backup or flash something I boot into CWM.
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KyraOfFire said:
I would love to be able to use 4ext. But Nexus 4 seems to be on low priority now.
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Never used it before. Why do you prefer it?
decepticon said:
I'm using the stock recovery but when I need to backup or flash something I boot into CWM.
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Seems easier to just have it on the phone. Are you doing this so you can get OTA updates?
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I would love to be able to use 4ext. But Nexus 4 seems to be on low priority now.
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I couldn't agree more, i put in a request for max to port it to this device ages ago, when my back ordered N4 eventually drops through the door, I'll get back on his case as it was without doubt the greatest recovery ever (all credit to cwm where due obviously)
4 ext, had the ability to stack multiple complex wipe, flash, restore and backup operations into one step greatly simplifying the flashing process, was also rock sold in my experience.
So until then will monitor this thread
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I don't have my nexus yet but on my gs2 I'm using twrp. I had cwm touch and liked it, it worked pretty good. But I like the twrp format better and I think it's easier to navigate. Also you could name your backups on twrp unlike cwm. Last thing is cwm I usually have to wipe and flash wiping scripts like darkside for some roms and twrp you don't have to.
Using CWM at the moment but will be switching to TWRP soon once I get back home to my computer.
Edit: Oh now I see that the goo manager method is working, will be installing TWRP tonight =)
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Never used it before. Why do you prefer it?
Seems easier to just have it on the phone. Are you doing this so you can get OTA updates?
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Yea. I rarely need recovery access so its not a hassle for me.
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ben_pyett said:
I couldn't agree more, i put in a request for max to port it to this device ages ago, when my back ordered N4 eventually drops through the door, I'll get back on his case as it was without doubt the greatest recovery ever (all credit to cwm where due obviously)
4 ext, had the ability to stack multiple complex wipe, flash, restore and backup operations into one step greatly simplifying the flashing process, was also rock sold in my experience.
So until then will monitor this thread
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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You wouldn't happen to know where we stand on getting 4ext support would you? I'd only used it a few times on my gf's phone and loved it instantly... For now I'm still stuck on CWMR, but would love to switch over!
ben_pyett said:
I couldn't agree more, i put in a request for max to port it to this device ages ago, when my back ordered N4 eventually drops through the door, I'll get back on his case as it was without doubt the greatest recovery ever (all credit to cwm where due obviously)
4 ext, had the ability to stack multiple complex wipe, flash, restore and backup operations into one step greatly simplifying the flashing process, was also rock sold in my experience.
So until then will monitor this thread
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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twrp has the same ability
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twrp has the same ability
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I think he meant that there is a "wipe all (except SD)" button that includes the boot partition. It's quite useful. TWRP doesn't have that.
I used 4EXT recovery touch on my Glacier. Purchased the updater. Great recovery. Used all the same folders as cwm, too. All apps designed to work with cwm worked with it, too.
CWM works flawlessly so i see no need to switch. But originally when deciding between the two, TWRP had overheating issues so with CWM I went.
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CWM works flawlessly so i see no need to switch. But originally when deciding between the two, TWRP had overheating issues so with CWM I went.
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Fixed with a kernel change. I've used both. I see cwm being like iOS. It's simplicity makes it easy to maintain. The core features everyone NEEDS are there. TWRP is more feature packed, more on the bleeding edge. More features means more chances for bugs. But that's the price you pay to be on the bleeding edge.
TWRP...FTW!
The 2 reasons I use TWRP
1. Flash multiple things at once
2. Set backup name
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TWRP, I'd rather use touch and CWM touch is more of a hassle to install unless you pay.
TWRP all the way for my N4!
CWM for one reason and one reason only: stability.
threeclaws said:
TWRP, I'd rather use touch and CWM touch is more of a hassle to install unless you pay.
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Huh?
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
http://builder.clockworkmod.com/
Edit: I guess when there's a new version of your recovery every couple weeks using fastboot might get annoying.
CWM! The "devs" of trwp better become themers. Twrp is totally unreliable.
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I've never had a single problem with TWRP, I have no idea why some people think it's unstable
My N4 is unlocked and rooted, but using factory recovery so that it installs it's own OTA's when it gets them. I have to manually update the tablets in my house and it's getting to be a hassle(and I'm lazy).
I'm sorry if this has been posted already, but searching on my phone for this answer has been less than ideal, so I've resorted to making a post. I'm hoping someone can link me to a thread that has this available.
I'm looking to root my phone, but I've already got it setup the way I like and I really don't want to go through the hassle of getting everything all ironed out again. So here is what I'm looking for:
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
As of now I have no desire to go after any custom ROMs until I find some added functionality that I really see being useful that also doesn't break other features of my phone. So I'm really waiting on development to mature a bit more for this device before even considering something custom.
Thanks to anyone who can offer some help.
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
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Rooting doesn't touch your ROM, so you're still in stock.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup
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Most, if not all, rooting methods have boot-loader unlocking as a prerequisite.
Unlocking boot-loader will wipe your phone. There is no alternative.
On the bright side, you can make a backup of your system, unlock boot-loader, restore your system, then root the phone.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
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As long as you don't flash customer recovery, you're fine.
What are my backup alternatives then to keep all those settings? I've only ever rooted one device before and I thought Titanium Backup (which requires root) was one of the only backup methods for this sort of thing? Or is there something I'm missing?
there is one backup that the app has a picture of one of those hula hoops use for saving people from drowning...
My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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The guide stickied in this section is relevant to your interests.
Adb backup...
Unlock.
Restore...and it'll be like you never touched anything.
MattSkeet said:
My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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How exactly is he going to backup the ROM in custom recovery.. if he is still bootloader locked?
ADB backup will backup your settings without being rooted.
OK thanks, I'll give that a try.
So I was browsing the forms and I stumbled across this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255
I know its not new, but that dev made an app that can create a nandroid backup with out booting into recovery. Does anyone think this would or wouldn't work for a MF3 device with a locked boot loader? I know that even if the backup worked, we still wouldn't be able to flash it, but maybe something can be reversed engineered.
Just trying to get some info on this guys. I didn't see any other post in our forum on the topic.
I didnt read through the thread much but it sounds promising possibly. Even though you couldn't flash it in recovery you MAY be able to use tibu to restore some apps or such with tibu pulling from nandroid backups. Again NOT SURE if this will even work with safestrapped folks but it doesn't sound like it would hurt to try. I do NOT have a safestrapped phone so I have no way of testing.
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There would be no point in using TB to pull the apps from a nandroid. It works fine by itself AFAIK. It is actually counter productive because a nandroid uses a ton more space than a TB backup.
The reason this theory would not work is because the phone still will have a blown Qfuse. The device needs a specific encrypted key that seems to be different per device. We do not have that key or access to it. Similar topics have been discussed before.
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graydiggy said:
There would be no point in using TB to pull the apps from a nandroid. It works fine by itself AFAIK. It is actually counter productive because a nandroid uses a ton more space than a TB backup.
The reason this theory would not work is because the phone still will have a blown Qfuse. The device needs a specific encrypted key that seems to be different per device. We do not have that key or access to it. Similar topics have been discussed before.
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Thanks. I guess I was thinking since those on safestrap cannot flash a nandroid backup to RESTORE at this point (or am I wrong about this?) that this MAY give them another avenue to get some apps back IF they deleted out something they shouldn't have.
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Safestrap has a custom TWRP. It can do partial nandroid backups. System, data, and something I can't think of right now. Not a full nandroid though. Those can be restored as well. However restoring the same things from a regular nandroid to a SSd system will render the slot useless and will require deleting the slot and starting it over.
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graydiggy said:
Safestrap has a custom TWRP. It can do partial nandroid backups. System, data, and something I can't think of right now. Not a full nandroid though. Those can be restored as well. However restoring the same things from a regular nandroid to a SSd system will render the slot useless and will require deleting the slot and starting it over.
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Cool. Thanks for the info. It is hard to help those on safestrap since I cannot test for myself. Both my S4 came with mdb/MDL so I don't have to deal with it.
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I use SS and I have never had OTA MF3 on this device. I use it for testing multiple ROMs and redundancy. You can use it. Even with custom kernels. As long as you never get the OTA.
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Hey guys I'm fairly new to the droid, but not new to installing stuff and that. I've tried multiple times to install a recovery but twrp doesn't, through fast boot it says it's invalid or something. Somehow I got cwm on it but to install a new Rom I've to make a complete backup since I've heard these phones brick pretty easily. The data can't be mounted to backup And I can't backup on internal storage either.
If you guys could help me out a bit it would be great. Thanks
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Hey guys I'm fairly new to the droid, but not new to installing stuff and that. I've tried multiple times to install a recovery but twrp doesn't, through fast boot it says it's invalid or something. Somehow I got cwm on it but to install a new Rom I've to make a complete backup since I've heard these phones brick pretty easily. The data can't be mounted to backup And I can't backup on internal storage either.
If you guys could help me out a bit it would be great. Thanks
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Which system version are you on, and which version of TWRP did you try? Where did you get the TWRP? Check this thread it has all the walkthroughs and download links needed... Side note this should be in general or q&a not in the Dev section
We cannot teach people anything; we can only help them discover it within themselves.
I'm on the stock rom 4.4, and I've already gone through the steps, as I said and understand how these things work, the cwm I'm using now installed but doesn't allow for a data backup. I read there isn't one for this phone which allows that.
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Which TWRP did you use... Where did you get it from.... Please check the linked thread and ensure you grabbed the proper TWRP for our device also maybe try flashing by a different method if you did use the correct TWRP
We cannot teach people anything; we can only help them discover it within themselves.
jafferkhan said:
I'm on the stock rom 4.4, and I've already gone through the steps, as I said and understand how these things work, the cwm I'm using now installed but doesn't allow for a data backup. I read there isn't one for this phone which allows that.
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Actually I am also on 4.4 kk.. And also I tried a lot TWRP's they don't work! Idk why but just didn't open when click to recovery!
Also a lot of cwm's won't work. I only found one working recovery.
livecouk said:
Actually I am also on 4.4 kk.. And also I tried a lot TWRP's they don't work! Idk why but just didn't open when click to recovery!
Also a lot of cwm's won't work. I only found one working recovery.
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i went through the suggested link again, decided to go with Twrp and used flashr from playstore to flash it. worked out great, now i've got a fully backed up stock 4.4
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Which system version are you on, and which version of TWRP did you try? Where did you get the TWRP? Check this thread it has all the walkthroughs and download links needed... Side note this should be in general or q&a not in the Dev section
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got it, thanks mate
Hello,
I really want to root my Nexus 6p but I have a few questions.
1) How can I make it so that if it goes wrong I can get my phone back it's original state with all my stuff there. (Backing up basically)
2) How can I make it so that when I have rooted my phone keeps the same layout (I use Nova) and all my apps, games contacts etc. are reinstalled
3) How do I root my Nexus 6p, 6.0.1. I was going to use this gadget hacks tutorial but I didn't know if it would work?
Thanks alot,
Callum
callum_suttle said:
Hello,
I really want to root my Nexus 6p but I have a few questions.
1) How can I make it so that if it goes wrong I can get my phone back it's original state with all my stuff there. (Backing up basically)
2) How can I make it so that when I have rooted my phone keeps the same layout (I use Nova) and all my apps, games contacts etc. are reinstalled
3) How do I root my Nexus 6p, 6.0.1. I was going to use this gadget hacks tutorial but I didn't know if it would work?
Thanks alot,
Callum
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It's all in my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
You first need to unlock your bootloader, then install TWRP recovery, then you can flash SuperSU to gain root. To answer your questions:
1. You can't. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the device, so you need to backup your photos, videos, etc to your PC first. You can't backup your apps and settings. This is why it's a good idea to unlock your bootloader when you first get the device.
2. You'll have to download your apps again though. Your contacts should be synced with your Google account so they'll just sync back to the device.
3. See my guide linked above. It's very detailed and has everything you need to know.
Will android not automatically download apps when I log in?
Also is there a way of keeping my settings the same.
I wish I had rooted right away but too late now.
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callum_suttle said:
Will android not automatically download apps when I log in?
Also is there a way of keeping my settings the same.
I wish I had rooted right away but too late now.
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It might download your apps automatically, it never does for me though. There's no way of keeping your settings, the device is going be wiped and there's no way to back them up.
OK thanks
Heisenberg said:
It might download your apps automatically, it never does for me though. There's no way of keeping your settings, the device is going be wiped and there's no way to back them up.
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If I were to root then flash a custom ROM, do I still need to flash different radios and firmwares when newer ones come out? Or does that come with the ROM upon flashing?
mackster248 said:
If I were to root then flash a custom ROM, do I still need to flash different radios and firmwares when newer ones come out? Or does that come with the ROM upon flashing?
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ROMs don't include radios or other firmware components like the bootloader or vendor. When I ROM gets updated and is based on a newer build you'd need to flash those yourself with fastboot (the vendor can be flashed with TWRP though).