Rooting My Nexus 6p - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I really want to root my Nexus 6p but I have a few questions.
1) How can I make it so that if it goes wrong I can get my phone back it's original state with all my stuff there. (Backing up basically)
2) How can I make it so that when I have rooted my phone keeps the same layout (I use Nova) and all my apps, games contacts etc. are reinstalled
3) How do I root my Nexus 6p, 6.0.1. I was going to use this gadget hacks tutorial but I didn't know if it would work?
Thanks alot,
Callum

callum_suttle said:
Hello,
I really want to root my Nexus 6p but I have a few questions.
1) How can I make it so that if it goes wrong I can get my phone back it's original state with all my stuff there. (Backing up basically)
2) How can I make it so that when I have rooted my phone keeps the same layout (I use Nova) and all my apps, games contacts etc. are reinstalled
3) How do I root my Nexus 6p, 6.0.1. I was going to use this gadget hacks tutorial but I didn't know if it would work?
Thanks alot,
Callum
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It's all in my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
You first need to unlock your bootloader, then install TWRP recovery, then you can flash SuperSU to gain root. To answer your questions:
1. You can't. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the device, so you need to backup your photos, videos, etc to your PC first. You can't backup your apps and settings. This is why it's a good idea to unlock your bootloader when you first get the device.
2. You'll have to download your apps again though. Your contacts should be synced with your Google account so they'll just sync back to the device.
3. See my guide linked above. It's very detailed and has everything you need to know.

Will android not automatically download apps when I log in?
Also is there a way of keeping my settings the same.
I wish I had rooted right away but too late now.
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callum_suttle said:
Will android not automatically download apps when I log in?
Also is there a way of keeping my settings the same.
I wish I had rooted right away but too late now.
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It might download your apps automatically, it never does for me though. There's no way of keeping your settings, the device is going be wiped and there's no way to back them up.

OK thanks

Heisenberg said:
It might download your apps automatically, it never does for me though. There's no way of keeping your settings, the device is going be wiped and there's no way to back them up.
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If I were to root then flash a custom ROM, do I still need to flash different radios and firmwares when newer ones come out? Or does that come with the ROM upon flashing?

mackster248 said:
If I were to root then flash a custom ROM, do I still need to flash different radios and firmwares when newer ones come out? Or does that come with the ROM upon flashing?
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ROMs don't include radios or other firmware components like the bootloader or vendor. When I ROM gets updated and is based on a newer build you'd need to flash those yourself with fastboot (the vendor can be flashed with TWRP though).

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Backup new Nexus S

I sold my iPhone 4 today and bought a brand new nexus s. I'm not new to android though, I used to own a nexus one before iPhone 4.
My question is that I want to install custom roms on it, but I might want to restore it back to original factory settings in case I want to return it to best buy. How can I backup my phone so that best buy would take the phone back without questions?
I saw a thread to root the phone without unlocking the bootloader. Is that what I should do? Any help is appreciated!
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Just root and do a nandroid backup. If you use rom manager to install the custom recovery you can just use it to so the backup.
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Go to the Samsung nexus s android development section. Look for the thread that begins with Odin 1.81... bookmark that thread. That thread will help you flash completely back to stock. And always make sure you relock your bootloader.
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The only advantage of not unlocking the bootloader is to avoid a full wipe of your internal storage such as pics, music etc. However custom roms or apps may have stability issues without an unlocked bootloader. No harm in unlocking the bootloader because you can always lock it again. Just make sure you back up any files you may want to keep.
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peeturr said:
The only advantage of not unlocking the bootloader is to avoid a full wipe of your internal storage such as pics, music etc. However custom roms or apps may have stability issues without an unlocked bootloader. No harm in unlocking the bootloader because you can always lock it again. Just make sure you back up any files you may want to keep.
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I agree that the only advantage to not unlocking the bootloader is to avoid a full wipe and loss of all data.
I'm curious if you can point to an example of any current existing ROM that displays issues because the bootloader is locked... if so, I need to add that information to the non-unlock method instructions.
Sorry I don't. I was just quoting one of the root guides in here. But then again there's always that IF. Now that I think about it, unlocking the bootloader is to be able to install root and a custom recovery. If you can do that without unlocking the bootloader then you should still be golden. Don't see why a rom or app would be dependent on the bootloader. Sorry for the confusion.
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peeturr said:
Sorry I don't. I was just quoting one of the root guides in here. But then again there's always that IF. Now that I think about it, unlocking the bootloader is to be able to install root and a custom recovery. If you can do that without unlocking the bootloader then you should still be golden. Don't see why a rom or app would be dependent on the bootloader. Sorry for the confusion.
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Yeah, we've found no reason to HAVE-TO unlock it yet. Just to be clear, I wasn't challenging you, just looking for anything I might need to add to the guide on doing it without the unlock. I already have a caveat that it might be an issue for something, but don't know what something could be.
Anyways, if you're a fresh out of the box phone, no problems unlock method, since you have no data to lose in the wipe. For late-comers, the no unlock method spares them that data wipe. The beauty of it is that you can root and install titainium or other backup software without wiping the phone if you already have data on it, and then if needed you can always unlock it and re-root, and then restore your wiped data. Best of both worlds for some.
Pretty much exactly what happened to me Distorted loop, Very thankfull for that non wipe root method, definately saved my ass as i had a good play with the phone before getting it to a PC for backup/rooting.
I am going to swap my device for another tommorrow to confirm if my reboot issue is even remotely hardware related. So i will have 30 mins with no nexus s ...s'gonna kill me as i love this lil thing (even with my calling problems).
Looking forward to a nice stable nexus, and then i'll try out some of the mods and roms (still on stock for now)

Is there a stock (ROM) root method that will not require me to reset all my settings?

I'm sorry if this has been posted already, but searching on my phone for this answer has been less than ideal, so I've resorted to making a post. I'm hoping someone can link me to a thread that has this available.
I'm looking to root my phone, but I've already got it setup the way I like and I really don't want to go through the hassle of getting everything all ironed out again. So here is what I'm looking for:
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
As of now I have no desire to go after any custom ROMs until I find some added functionality that I really see being useful that also doesn't break other features of my phone. So I'm really waiting on development to mature a bit more for this device before even considering something custom.
Thanks to anyone who can offer some help.
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
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Rooting doesn't touch your ROM, so you're still in stock.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup
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Most, if not all, rooting methods have boot-loader unlocking as a prerequisite.
Unlocking boot-loader will wipe your phone. There is no alternative.
On the bright side, you can make a backup of your system, unlock boot-loader, restore your system, then root the phone.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
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As long as you don't flash customer recovery, you're fine.
What are my backup alternatives then to keep all those settings? I've only ever rooted one device before and I thought Titanium Backup (which requires root) was one of the only backup methods for this sort of thing? Or is there something I'm missing?
there is one backup that the app has a picture of one of those hula hoops use for saving people from drowning...
My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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The guide stickied in this section is relevant to your interests.
Adb backup...
Unlock.
Restore...and it'll be like you never touched anything.
MattSkeet said:
My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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How exactly is he going to backup the ROM in custom recovery.. if he is still bootloader locked?
ADB backup will backup your settings without being rooted.
OK thanks, I'll give that a try.

[Q] Rooting Nexus 7

Alright, so I got a Nexus 7 for x-mas (my first and only android device) and I love it. Recently i have been wanting to root but information/explanation has been hard to come by. So, I have a few questions.
1. When i received the device i did not unlock bootloader, after reading about unlocking it it seems that this wipes all the data from the device. How do i backup my apps/data/storage? If i copy all the files to my CPU and then copy them back to the nexus will it work? What about app settings, like my settings on Apex launcher? I've seen threads and apps that recover data after it is deleted? What's my best bet for backing my info and data up?
2. What is the difference in flashing a kernel and rooting an android? Are they the same? As far as i know flashing is reversible, but is rooting?
3. How do you root? I've seen things about utilities (nexus 7 toolkit) and I've seen things that just involve unlocking the bootloader (flashing? i think)
Sorry if these questions have been answered or this is the wrong spot for this, I'm new to the forum.
The Drugs said:
Alright, so I got a Nexus 7 for x-mas (my first and only android device) and I love it. Recently i have been wanting to root but information/explanation has been hard to come by. So, I have a few questions.
1. When i received the device i did not unlock bootloader, after reading about unlocking it it seems that this wipes all the data from the device. How do i backup my apps/data/storage? If i copy all the files to my CPU and then copy them back to the nexus will it work? What about app settings, like my settings on Apex launcher? I've seen threads and apps that recover data after it is deleted? What's my best bet for backing my info and data up?
2. What is the difference in flashing a kernel and rooting an android? Are they the same? As far as i know flashing is reversible, but is rooting?
3. How do you root? I've seen things about utilities (nexus 7 toolkit) and I've seen things that just involve unlocking the bootloader (flashing? i think)
Sorry if these questions have been answered or this is the wrong spot for this, I'm new to the forum.
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1) You can't really do a backup of app data before unlocking the bootloader, that's why it's recommended to do it right when you get. I have to wipe everything so i know how you feel.
2) Inorder to flash a kernel you need to root first.
3) You could use a toolkit to unlock and root( either nexus 7 toolkit or wugs') or if you want to unlock and root manually you can use adb, which is just a few commands for a nexus. Both are easy, the only hard part is making sure you have the correct drivers.
Hope i helped and good luck!
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You can't really do a backup of app data before unlocking the bootloader, that's why it's recommended to do it right when you get. I have to wipe everything so i know how you feel.
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Dang, that really sucks. What all can i save? App permissions, any of that?
I was just looking around and noticed there are some Apps that save data/info, the ones i saw were Carbon and TWRP. Would i be able to save my app stuff that way?
TWRP is a custom recovery which you can use AFTER unlock and root and i have never used carbon so i wouldnt know.
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I don't own a tablet, but I am a beta tester for a few projects here, I have to wipe all data, but the cool thing is after the first initial wipe, you never have to worry about that again.
A backup of your non-rooted device, I would say do your best with titanium backup, need an easier program? Try go backup pro or Clickfree backup.
Then try to restore. If it fails, retry.. I got that a lot, most game data saved is usually stored in /mnt/sdcard/Android/data or /mnt/sdcard/Android/obb
You can store that info on an external SD, using directory bind, you can find it on here, very good app if your phone/tablet sucks because its internal storage is 3.75gb. my dual partitioned and mounted 64gb sdcard works wonderfully, my games get 16gb to themselves.
Anyway to stay on topic, I want this, but also looking at an Asus, and a Samsung galaxy tab 2
:-MiniHazard-: sgh-i927 glide
CWM 6.0.1.2
CM 10.1 JB - thanks thegreatergood
LiteKernel-jb-20130121 - just until bugfix
First of all, TWRP can only be used after unlocking boot loader and unlocking wipes all data
I also unlocked boot loader after 2 months when I have many apps, so it is simple you copy all the data to your PC and you can do a backup of your apk's by sending them to a Bluetooth device by the help of a app ( Bluetooth file transfer) , you unlock the boot loader and send all apks back either by Bluetooth or by using stick mount when you are rooted , and restore all data,
Flashing a kernel requires to root first
You can either root by using root toolkit or by using adb fastboot method manually
Here is the link to a post of mine for rooting nexus 7 by adb fast boot method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38195329
Good luck,if you are unable to root or having any problem,reply and I will look into it
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flash kernel and root are two different things.
after unlocking the boot loader, you can flash anything you want, including an already rooted system image.
The Drugs said:
Alright, so I got a Nexus 7 for x-mas (my first and only android device) and I love it. Recently i have been wanting to root but information/explanation has been hard to come by. So, I have a few questions.
1. When i received the device i did not unlock bootloader, after reading about unlocking it it seems that this wipes all the data from the device. How do i backup my apps/data/storage? If i copy all the files to my CPU and then copy them back to the nexus will it work? What about app settings, like my settings on Apex launcher? I've seen threads and apps that recover data after it is deleted? What's my best bet for backing my info and data up?
2. What is the difference in flashing a kernel and rooting an android? Are they the same? As far as i know flashing is reversible, but is rooting?
3. How do you root? I've seen things about utilities (nexus 7 toolkit) and I've seen things that just involve unlocking the bootloader (flashing? i think)
Sorry if these questions have been answered or this is the wrong spot for this, I'm new to the forum.
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Have you read the FAQs which concern your N7 grouper, if not I invite you to go to read this FAQ
Frequently Asked Questions - ASUS GOOGLE NEXUS 7 – GROUPER & TILAPIA (WiFi & 3G)
What is the best (easy) way to root on Android 4.2.2?
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Here is the link to my post for rooting nexus 7 4.2.2 or any other nexus device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38195329
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Root but stock

I've always rooted and flashed roms on my phones. Everything from the sweaty palmed s-offing of my Desire to the simple fastboot commands on my Galaxy Nexus. I've then always gone on to flash roms at least weekly.
I'm about to buy a Nexus 10 and feel like leaving it stock but rooting it to be able to use stuff like Ti backup etc. Is this as straightforward as the GNex - fastboot unlock and fastboot flash su.zip?
I want to still have OTA updates though, does this mean I need to keep the stock recovery and is there a 'root keeper' app?
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GrenW said:
I've always rooted and flashed roms on my phones. Everything from the sweaty palmed s-offing of my Desire to the simple fastboot commands on my Galaxy Nexus. I've then always gone on to flash roms at least weekly.
I'm about to buy a Nexus 10 and feel like leaving it stock but rooting it to be able to use stuff like Ti backup etc. Is this as straightforward as the GNex - fastboot unlock and fastboot flash su.zip?
I want to still have OTA updates though, does this mean I need to keep the stock recovery and is there a 'root keeper' app?
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There are different methods, but if you want to stay on stock, use superboot method. You just need to install a drivers on your pc, and double click a file. You don't need to be unlocked or anything. Search for Nexus 10 superboot on the search button.
Btw I recommend you, if you still don't have the nexus 10 and plan to flash roms, you should use wugs toolkit. Root, unlock, install twrp (custom touch recovery) and in case any day you want to flash a rom, you won't need to unlock and lose your data. Just make a backup and you're ready to go.
Superboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003938
Wug Toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015467
If you want to still have otas, then just use superboot, you don't need to keep the stock recovery but to avoid problems keep it. Just make sure before use ota, you haven't changed any file in the folder /system. For example if you place the aosp browser in /system/apps, put the original files on there, flash the ota, and then put the aosp browser files again. And yes, on the google play there's root keeper and it can be used on nexus 10.
Thanks. I should have the drivers set up on my pc unless I need Nexus 10 specific ones. This was the biggest pita lat time.
Doesn't installing a custom recovery stop OTAs working?
Things is, you're right. I know I'll probably end up flashing a custom rom in the end.
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GrenW said:
Thanks. I should have the drivers set up on my pc unless I need Nexus 10 specific ones. This was the biggest pita lat time.
Doesn't installing a custom recovery stop OTAs working?
Things is, you're right. I know I'll probably end up flashing a custom rom in the end.
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Nope it doesn't. Once the ota shows up, and reboots to recovery, if you have a custom one, it asks if you wanna keep it.
Thanks. All I know is on the Galaxy Nexus the OTA can fail if it detects a non-standard recovery.
Maybe its a CWM thing?

Still no stock image? cmon google...

Shesh...the device been out for over a week now, im shock to see theres still not a official firmware image
immunityx said:
Shesh...the device been out for over a week now, im shock to see theres still not a official firmware image
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I agree. I wanted the stock images to test if my device got a bad flash from the factory causing all of the multi touch and freezing issues. I ended up just exchanging at BB and have yet to upgrade to JSS15 in case that is the culprit.
Rod3 said:
I agree. I wanted the stock images to test if my device got a bad flash from the factory causing all of the multi touch and freezing issues. I ended up just exchanging at BB and have yet to upgrade to JSS15 in case that is the culprit.
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There is no official one but there is an unofficial one, when the TWRP bug got me, it saved my system. It would still be soft-bricked waiting on Google otherwise.
I know right we need that incase something goes wrong and we can restore right to that i know we have ones on here but i want official
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Hmmm nexus4 all over again
>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
here's a flashable OTA image, is that not the same thing?
http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=3120
Midnight_Rider said:
here's a flashable OTA image, is that not the same thing?
http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=3120
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they want a factory google released image
Midnight_Rider said:
here's a flashable OTA image, is that not the same thing?
http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=3120
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Nope. A factory image contains all the partitions, not just an update zip. Its used mainly to help devices that are completely broken (won't turn on), or people who want to unroot and go back to complete stock.
If it was there, it would be here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
That's what's keeping me from unlocking and rooting mine.
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I want/need that as a backup..... just in case....
gotcha, i understand the diff
danvee said:
That's what's keeping me from unlocking and rooting mine.
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I want/need that as a backup..... just in case....
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It is extremely rare to have anything go wrong just unlocking the phone. You might as well go ahead and do it because eventually you will and it'll force a wipe data. Might as well do it now before you install too much stuff.
You can leave root and custom recovery until the images show up if you are concerned about borking your system.
sfhub said:
It is extremely rare to have anything go wrong just unlocking the phone. You might as well go ahead and do it because eventually you will and it'll force a wipe data. Might as well do it now before you install too much stuff.
You can leave root and custom recovery until the images show up if you are concerned about borking your system.
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Not the unlocking. The rooting...
danvee said:
That's what's keeping me from unlocking and rooting mine.
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I want/need that as a backup..... just in case....
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danvee said:
Not the unlocking. The rooting...
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this is what i did, after unlocking and rooting and installing TWRP go into recovery and make a nandroid backup and keep it safe off the device, keep it on the device, so if you need it you can restore it
That's what I'd be do once rooted, but it's the risk of the process failing without the factory image as a backup....
For example, rooting fails, no custom recovery flashed, OS hosed.....
I like having that safety net....
danvee said:
That's what I'd be do once rooted, but it's the risk of the process failing without the factory image as a backup....
For example, rooting fails, no custom recovery flashed, OS hosed.....
I like having that safety net....
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oh i gotcha, but you have your steps out of order. first you unlock the bootloader which doesn't flash anything to your device. then you push the recovery image to your device from your PC using adb. yes this step could go horribly wrong, but if you have everything in place you should be ok. this step is very easy as well, not much to screw up and doesnt take any time at all, none of this does.
then once the recovery is installed, reboot your phone so you know everything comes up fine. then reboot into the recovery and flash SuperSU and voila! you have a rooted phone. boot back into the OS and run an app that requires root (Root Checker is a good one to use as a test) to make sure all is well
i understand your concern, but of all the android devices i have owned, the new nexus has been by far the easiest one of all to root and it is meant to be that way so developers can play with it and customize it and learn from it
plus there's this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381582
Midnight_Rider said:
oh i gotcha, but you have your steps out of order. first you unlock the bootloader which doesn't flash anything to your device. then you push the recovery image to your device from your PC using adb. yes this step could go horribly wrong, but if you have everything in place you should be ok. this step is very easy as well, not much to screw up and doesnt take any time at all, none of this does.
then once the recovery is installed, reboot your phone so you know everything comes up fine. then reboot into the recovery and flash SuperSU and voila! you have a rooted phone. boot back into the OS and run an app that requires root (Root Checker is a good one to use as a test) to make sure all is well
i understand your concern, but of all the android devices i have owned, the new nexus has been by far the easiest one of all to root and it is meant to be that way so developers can play with it and customize it and learn from it
plus there's this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381582
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these are all wonderful points, but it doesn't change the fact that google should have released the image already
indianajonze said:
these are all wonderful points, but it doesn't change the fact that google should have released the image already
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agreed, but im sure they are waiting to make sure there are no major bugs reported so they can fix it first, then release it. it will be out
That would mean yet another update, then.
Midnight_Rider said:
agreed, but im sure they are waiting to make sure there are no major bugs reported so they can fix it first, then release it. it will be out
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Google has never waited before. The only thing that generally holds up posting factory images are licensing issues. They posted the 4.3 images for the Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2012), and various Galaxy Nexus devices. There is no reason they didn't post the Nexus 7 images unless it is licensing related.
bozzykid said:
Google has never waited before. The only thing that generally holds up posting factory images are licensing issues. They posted the 4.3 images for the Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2012), and various Galaxy Nexus devices. There is no reason they didn't post the Nexus 7 images unless it is licensing related.
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good point

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