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[1 Click Root] I Have Two Questions...

Ok, i just heard of the one click root app now out for the nexus one.. I always wanted to root, but every time I did, i was never able to get it. So anyways back to my questions...
*[1] I have stock froyo frf91.. I manually updated all the versions leading up to frf91 not once did I receive an ota update... Once I root, will that cancel my ota's? (even tho I manually update them) will I still get an ota update to gingerbread if I root?
*[2] Once I do this root thing, i want the best rom that includes a fast, clean, eye candy, all black theme. (Including the notification bar) after I find this, how do I go about and apply it? How do I install it?.. Isn't there an app in the market where I can look at the newest roms and themes and just apply them from there?
Sorry for the noob questions guys, i just want to witness what all of you have.. I want to unleash the potential of my nexus one! Lol.
** On a side note, i also heard that once you get a cyanogen rom, it is a must that you download the titanium back up app.. is that right?.. because that rom deletes everything...?
Thanks guys, very much!
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Never heard bout the Backup thing issue,
But No, once rooted you dont get OTA's (due the fact you change recovery image and rom)
I believe if you still keep things stock like Recovery, and Official ROM you do! (but unsure of this)
Also there is a adb way to root which is simple and thats how i rooted my phone!
you can give that a try instead of one click!
there are no roms in market..
Also try to look through the Dev section, to even apple Dev roms you need to flash custom recovery then do a nandroid back up, then from ther you use the apple from sd!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736271
this is the method i followed
-note if this is gonna be your first time rooting, i suggest you read all info possible bout it, then read it again.. the think on how your going to do it , then reread the info then apply.. while applying stil read the info

woah there. He'll still get the OTA notification and can even download it. You just can't apply the OTA updates. You have to use a rooted one, generally available here before you'll ever even see the OTA notification on your phone.

if you are rooting for the first time do it the loop adb way. Its a bit more involved but once you do it you will learn a bit about adb and other methods that you will need in the future.
One-Click root is going to make the more fun parts of modding harder in the future. The guide in the stickies is very easy to follow and it will pay off in the long run.
Or fastboot oem unlock it and have the badge of honor

That's the thing, i've tried doin it the adb way.. it just never worked for me..
And I also don't want to unlock the bootloader
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this way should work like perfect, the other way with pulling sdard way seems kinda over that top for me..

Yea.. so if I use this one click method, i can use custom roms and themes?
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matholomus said:
Yea.. so if I use this one click method, i can use custom roms and themes?
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Yup, I did that yesturday, there are a few more steps after rooting to get custom roms to work but you can do it.
On another note, cant you just flash back to stock, then using rom manager get rid of the custom recovery, then unroot using the 1click root? Wont that put you back to stock? cant you use the ota's then?

The AndRoot app is awesome. U can turn root ON or OFF anytime (even for ota).

Orangeandblue302 said:
Or fastboot oem unlock it and have the badge of honor
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and wear it proudly! fastboot is a cinch and pretty hard to ef up. the worst part is the syntax (especially if you dont have the recovery image in the right directory). i found this link to be helpful in learning how to use fastboot.
i used fastboot to unlock and to flash amon ra. then, running amon ra, i flashed whatever ROM i wanted. later, just for s and giggles i used rom manager to install the clockwork mod recovery.
if you dont like the outcome, you can always flash back to stock which will redo the stock recovery too... but the unlock badge will remain proudly displayed.

Factory cable

Let me get this straight if i were to make a factory cable then could I load right up to a recovery and flash a rom without doing anting on the computer right? If not please explain what it can do for an unbricked user.
Thank in advance!

no.
u need a computer. the cable just puts it in *fastboot* mode to be able to run fastboot commands from your computer.
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Oh i was under the impreson that you could put a recovery in a folder the when you hooked up the factroy cable it would load the recovery oh by the way whats the eashest way to put the energy rom on my kindle and I dont whant to root unless neccesary.

can I even use a factory cable without rooting and can I put the recovery on there without rooting?

So you are gonna flash a rom but you don't want to root? Lol
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YESSS! please help.

U can use a factory cable, to replace your recovery and remain on stock OS unrooted if you choose. U can change the bootloader or not as well(without it u need the factory cable to get into recovery). U can make backups, whatever.
As soon as u flash a different rom, u will have root. It wont hurt you, but it'll be there lol
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Basicly I just whant to got rid of the stock and flash twrp so I can flash a Rom and what do you mean Id have to root aferter I pot a Rom on it. Spell fails!

Can someone do a video on the kfs factory cable that would be great

noahawesome said:
Basicly I just whant to got rid of the stock and flash twrp so I can flash a Rom and what do you mean Id have to root aferter I pot a Rom on it. Spell fails!
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ALL 100% of custom ROM's are pre-rooted, there is NO reason to not be rooted. You have to root in order to enjoy the better apps available. I've been here 5 years now and never heard of someone who wants a custom ROM installed without Root. It makes no sense at all...
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No no no I mean I whatnt to get to a rooted Rom on my stock 6.3 kf! Any help please

noahawesome said:
No no no I mean I whatnt to get to a rooted Rom on my stock 6.3 kf! Any help please
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There are countless threads on how to do this. Just search, the info is there.
If you want to "remove" root for security reasons or for whatever reason, uninstall superuser.
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SkOrPn said:
ALL 100% of custom ROM's are pre-rooted, there is NO reason to not be rooted. You have to root in order to enjoy the better apps available. I've been here 5 years now and never heard of someone who wants a custom ROM installed without Root. It makes no sense at all...
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miui is a custom rom without root(until its enabled manually).
but yup, without it, I don't know what I would use my device for. I need root
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Thank you everyone who helped! I did what Imntone told me to and it sort of worked! after i got into fastboot, your last two commands didnt work... i used kfu to try to install twrp after getting into fastboot & it worked! THX THX THX for all ur help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angel::victory::laugh::silly::good::highfive:

I think there is some confusion here as to what "rooting" means.
The term "rooting" is generally used in the community for the process of flashing a custom bootloader and recovery in order to gain root access to the device. This isn't really accurate as flashing a custom bootloader and recovery are 2 completely separate processes that just happen to generally be prerequisites to gaining root on many devices. It is completely possible on some devices to root the device without a custom recovery or custom bootloader and it is completely possible on most devices to flash a custom bootloader and recovery without gaining root access.
What becomes confusing to some is the widely known fact that rooting your device voids the warranty. In reality rooting is generally easy to reverse, removing a custom recovery and bootloader is not usually easy to do. Flashing a custom recovery and bootloader is really the reason that your warranty is voided, neglecting to install the superuser.apk to gain root is doing nothing to preserve your warranty. For this reason there really is nothing to gain from flashing a custom recovery and bootloader to install a custom rom without root access over installing a rom with root access. With root access you gain the ability to use many more advanced apps which allow you to take full advantage of the device it also allows you to have the option to modify system files which are normally protected which can allow you to manually fix some problems which may arise.
I hope this helps clear things up for some.
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Question: How to backup a stock/unrooted Fire?

Ok, I love my stock/unrooted Kindle Fire. I use it every day as is, but I want to try some of the ROMs out there to make it more of a tablet. I Sideload a number of apps not normally available in the Amazon market which seems fine for now so I'm in no realy hurry... Just things like Swype, Gmail, Play/Marketplace... etc would be nice.
However, In order to try this I have to wipe what I have... I have game saves that I don't want to lose (World of Goo, Plants Vs. Zombies, Peggle... etc.) I usually use Titanium Backup to do this on my phones but without rooting the KF I can't use Ti and it seems that I can't Root without wiping out all my data first.
Unfortunately, the Key Words of "Backup" "Stock" and "Unrooted" returns nearly everything within these forums so if you know a thread for doing this please feel free to direct me there since I can't seem to find a way to separate the wheat from the chaff.

OOps, I just realized I wasn't in Q&A when I posted... Go easy on me it was an honest mistake.

u can make a backup first if u want.
fastboot flash a recovery first.
fastboot flash bootloader
get into recpvery n make a backup immediately. then root after
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smirkis said:
u can make a backup first if u want.
fastboot flash a recovery first.
fastboot flash bootloader
get into recpvery n make a backup immediately. then root after
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Sounds easy enough... Reason I am leary is that in a lot of the initial device rooting I've dealt with, the initial recovery and bootloader are loaded along with a ROM which overwrites the data to a version which is rootable. If the Recovery and Bootloader images are seperate and won't touch the data then I would be a happy camper.
In digging further It looks like there is also a temporary root method but I can't confirm if the SU and TiBackup will work properly on a stock Fire with temp root. That would be perfection if they do... anyone without data they can't stand the thought of losing willing to verify?

what temp root? if there was, e would rewrite too methods lol.
we root via fastboot just like the nexus 7.
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smirkis said:
what temp root? if there was, e would rewrite too methods lol.
we root via fastboot just like the nexus 7.
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There was a method posted in the KF forum for using the Amazon Prime videos and still being rooted. I decided to just go full bore and just rooted/flashing TWRP.
Thanks for the help/suggestions! If I blow something up I'll come back a'lookin.

[Q] Which rooting method?

I see a couple of different tools here to unlock and root my Nexus 7. What are the differences between them?
I do not want to flash ROMs; just unlock, root and install cwm recovery.

Nate2 said:
I see a couple of different tools here to unlock and root my Nexus 7. What are the differences between them?
I do not want to flash ROMs; just unlock, root and install cwm recovery.
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fastboot oem unlock, fastboot flash cmm recovery, flash the su binaries, reboot and profit.

Search for wugfresh nexus root toolkit. Very simple to use.
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frozenspark said:
Search for wugfresh nexus root toolkit. Very simple to use.
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Don't use tools for rooting with the Nexus devices, it's useless in my opinion. Try to understand the basics behind rooting, recovery and fastboot, do it manually and you will be able to help yourself even if something is not working as expected.
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Use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
This is the best tool for Nexus 7.

AndDiSa said:
Don't use tools for rooting with the Nexus devices, it's useless in my opinion. Try to understand the basics behind rooting, recovery and fastboot, do it manually and you will be able to help yourself even if something is not working as expected.
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Even though I know how fastboot, recovery and rooting works, I still use this tool without any of those commands. And it serve the purpose for me quickly. Of course using such tools will not stop you from learning more afterwards.
I wouldn't say its useless.
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frozenspark said:
Even though I know how fastboot, recovery and rooting works, I still use this tool without any of those commands. And it serve the purpose for me quickly. Of course using such tools will not stop you from learning more afterwards.
I wouldn't say its useless.
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then you should br helping out all the people that mess up their devices afyer using toolkits and dont know how to fix it. i havent seen you help out, yet you are still recommending toolkits. why is that?

I used the steps outlined at http://rootzwiki.com/topic/28544-guide-nexus-7-bootloadersrecoveriesrootback-to-stock/ to guide me.
I must say it might not be trivial for the non-software-developer types.
I was a Java developer for many years, so I didn't have much problems setting up Java,
Android-sdk, etc.
My N7 was recognized by adb when booted normally, but after I flashed cwm, I could not do 'adb shell' to mount the /system partition and rename the recovery-from-boot.p file to prevent the recovery from getting reset to stock each time.
I ended up installing the ROM Manager app to enable me to boot into cwm recovery.
I have done the obligatory cwm backup. I believe this is the nandroid backup?
Edit:
I used my Linux box to re-flash the bootloader and cwm recovery images to the Nexus 7, and I could 'adb shell' and rename the recovery-from-boot.p file. So I'm all set now.
I just needed to run 'adb start-server' and 'fastboot' using sudo, so it might have been a permissions issue on my Windows box.
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I used Wug's Root Toolkit. Both of the toolkits seem good, but that was just the first one I saw. The Wug's Toolkit is an application and the other one is in a CMD.
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Linexus said:
Use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
This is the best tool for Nexus 7.
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+1
Absolutely brilliant ToolKit, very simple, fast and works like a charm.
I rooted my N7 with this, and had no issues to date.
Only took a couple of minutes.
BRILLIANT!

Looks like I'm not all set, after all Today, right before I plan to take the JB 4.1.2 OTA update, I notice my tablet won't boot into CWM, like it did a couple of days ago. I did rename the one file and things looked normal. What could have happened to my CWM?
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So there are 2 files that need to be renamed, not 1?
/system/recovery-from-boot.p
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh
And there was a bug in JB 4.1.1 that prevented booting into cwm recovery unless the device was plugged into USB??
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I re-flashed the same cwm recovery img, reinstalled the same su zip, and I'm back to normal
Gotta watch out for those OTA updates, I tell ya.

Use the fastboot commands
Good to see you alright!

This is like asking "Should I get an automatic or manual car?"

veeman said:
This is like asking "Should I get an automatic or manual car?"
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In the early days, automatic transmissions were more problematic and much more expensive. Today they are pretty efficient, even though a manual transmission gives you better control over the car, which most people don't really need for everyday driving.
If you frequently get stuck in stop-and-go traffic, you'll wish you had an automatic transmission.

Look at these lazy people..
Beamed from my Grouper.

Nate2 said:
Looks like I'm not all set, after all Today, right before I plan to take the JB 4.1.2 OTA update, I notice my tablet won't boot into CWM, like it did a couple of days ago. I did rename the one file and things looked normal. What could have happened to my CWM?
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So there are 2 files that need to be renamed, not 1?
/system/recovery-from-boot.p
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh
And there was a bug in JB 4.1.1 that prevented booting into cwm recovery unless the device was plugged into USB??
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Yes there was a bootloader bug on the nexus 7 and most people could not boot into CWM recovery without plugging it into their computer.
I however used TWRP back then [have since switched back to CWM touch, now that the bug is fixed] and had no issues. Now I have no issues with CWM touch, I can boot it directly from fastboot menu, or "reboot -> recovery" when booted.
Nate2 said:
I re-flashed the same cwm recovery img, reinstalled the same su zip, and I'm back to normal
Gotta watch out for those OTA updates, I tell ya.
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exactly what I would have done! sounds like you're getting the hang of it. and yes, I definitely recommend manual rooting/fastbooting to a toolkit.

Wilks3y said:
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Absolutely brilliant ToolKit, very simple, fast and works like a charm.
I rooted my N7 with this, and had no issues to date.
Only took a couple of minutes.
BRILLIANT!
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Yes that's my favorite too. It does it all and more. It slices, it dices, it'll even cut a can!

Nate2 said:
In the early days, automatic transmissions were more problematic and much more expensive. Today they are pretty efficient, even though a manual transmission gives you better control over the car, which most people don't really need for everyday driving.
If you frequently get stuck in stop-and-go traffic, you'll wish you had an automatic transmission.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They both have their ups and downs. If you're willing to learn a little about how Android works and learn some adb and fast boot commands then you should definitely do it manually.
If you just want to be a "1337 Haxorz" and aren't willing to learn then just use a toolkit.

OK, just one sub-question on rooting. I see no real reason to root except maybe to get more tablet interface than nexus has. Kinda like when the wifi indicator is at the bottom, since there are those !$#$$ back/home buttons already and a lot of wasted space Anyways, the question.
I bougth N7 16Gb and upgraded via forced OTA to 4.1.2. Do all these root methods work with 4.1.2?
Thanx,
D.

[Q] bought n7 with custom rom want to update to 4.2...can i?

Hello!
First post here and let me start off by saying i have no experience what so ever with rooting or custom roms . Purchased a N7 today that the seller said is running a custom rom. The wallpaper says clean rom so maybe that means something. It is running 4.1.2 and is prompting me to update....i assume to 4.2. My question is can i update? If so where does that put me? Will the update put me back to stock or is the device still rooted or running a custom rom?
Hey...i warned you...i know nothing about this but this appears to be the place to figure it out.
I have been reading for quite some time and could not find a clear answer.
Thanks in advance!!

You probably wont be able to update, you would have to flash back to stock 4.1.2. first .It does a check of certain stock files and system apk's before it will update,you would be better off going to https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images and getting the full stock 4.2 and doing a flash using wugs,there are alot of tutorials on here for directions.

Flashing the stock image over the device is fairly simple. I'm not adv savvy at all, but the wugs toolkit works SO LONG AS YOU GET YOUR DRIVERS SET UP RIGHT. Wigs also requires you to be running Windows. But wugs toolkit will allow you to flash the factory OK mage and then root it so you can use stickmount and ad away and such.-Ara
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AraDreamer said:
Flashing the stock image over the device is fairly simple. I'm not adv savvy at all, but the wugs toolkit works SO LONG AS YOU GET YOUR DRIVERS SET UP RIGHT. Wigs also requires you to be running Windows. But wugs toolkit will allow you to flash the factory OK mage and then root it so you can use stickmount and ad away and such.-Ara
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Thank you both....I will continue reading and see if I get enough confidence to mess with it.