Ok, i just heard of the one click root app now out for the nexus one.. I always wanted to root, but every time I did, i was never able to get it. So anyways back to my questions...
*[1] I have stock froyo frf91.. I manually updated all the versions leading up to frf91 not once did I receive an ota update... Once I root, will that cancel my ota's? (even tho I manually update them) will I still get an ota update to gingerbread if I root?
*[2] Once I do this root thing, i want the best rom that includes a fast, clean, eye candy, all black theme. (Including the notification bar) after I find this, how do I go about and apply it? How do I install it?.. Isn't there an app in the market where I can look at the newest roms and themes and just apply them from there?
Sorry for the noob questions guys, i just want to witness what all of you have.. I want to unleash the potential of my nexus one! Lol.
** On a side note, i also heard that once you get a cyanogen rom, it is a must that you download the titanium back up app.. is that right?.. because that rom deletes everything...?
Thanks guys, very much!
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Never heard bout the Backup thing issue,
But No, once rooted you dont get OTA's (due the fact you change recovery image and rom)
I believe if you still keep things stock like Recovery, and Official ROM you do! (but unsure of this)
Also there is a adb way to root which is simple and thats how i rooted my phone!
you can give that a try instead of one click!
there are no roms in market..
Also try to look through the Dev section, to even apple Dev roms you need to flash custom recovery then do a nandroid back up, then from ther you use the apple from sd!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736271
this is the method i followed
-note if this is gonna be your first time rooting, i suggest you read all info possible bout it, then read it again.. the think on how your going to do it , then reread the info then apply.. while applying stil read the info
woah there. He'll still get the OTA notification and can even download it. You just can't apply the OTA updates. You have to use a rooted one, generally available here before you'll ever even see the OTA notification on your phone.
if you are rooting for the first time do it the loop adb way. Its a bit more involved but once you do it you will learn a bit about adb and other methods that you will need in the future.
One-Click root is going to make the more fun parts of modding harder in the future. The guide in the stickies is very easy to follow and it will pay off in the long run.
Or fastboot oem unlock it and have the badge of honor
That's the thing, i've tried doin it the adb way.. it just never worked for me..
And I also don't want to unlock the bootloader
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this way should work like perfect, the other way with pulling sdard way seems kinda over that top for me..
Yea.. so if I use this one click method, i can use custom roms and themes?
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matholomus said:
Yea.. so if I use this one click method, i can use custom roms and themes?
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Yup, I did that yesturday, there are a few more steps after rooting to get custom roms to work but you can do it.
On another note, cant you just flash back to stock, then using rom manager get rid of the custom recovery, then unroot using the 1click root? Wont that put you back to stock? cant you use the ota's then?
The AndRoot app is awesome. U can turn root ON or OFF anytime (even for ota).
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Or fastboot oem unlock it and have the badge of honor
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and wear it proudly! fastboot is a cinch and pretty hard to ef up. the worst part is the syntax (especially if you dont have the recovery image in the right directory). i found this link to be helpful in learning how to use fastboot.
i used fastboot to unlock and to flash amon ra. then, running amon ra, i flashed whatever ROM i wanted. later, just for s and giggles i used rom manager to install the clockwork mod recovery.
if you dont like the outcome, you can always flash back to stock which will redo the stock recovery too... but the unlock badge will remain proudly displayed.
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What is the best way to root the EVO
Toast is the best method.
nick325i said:
Toast is the best method.
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Does everything works with Toast's root method?
Considering Toast's method is the only way to load custom ROMs I think his is the clear winner.
I started off with Unrevoked's and it was great for things like Titanium backup, but I decided to follow Toast's guide and it was really pretty simple.
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Considering Toast's method is the only way to load custom ROMs I think his is the clear winner.
I started off with Unrevoked's and it was great for things like Titanium backup, but I decided to follow Toast's guide and it was really pretty simple.
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I cant use the adb with the evo, no matter what i do windows dont find the drivers.
If i root with toast method, do i need to flash a custom rom? does everything works on yours?
For the drivers you have to goto the htc sync folder on your sd card and install the htc sync program.
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You can't flash custom ROMs with unrEVOked. Instant fail. I also like having my ROM actually rooted, and not just reliant on some other app.
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For the drivers you have to goto the htc sync folder on your sd card and install the htc sync program.
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I dont have any htc sync folder, do i have to?
The poll should read what is the best way not what did you use. It is misleading.
Toasts root is the best because of the recovery. That is needed for custom ROMs, nand backups, and a host of underthings.
A lot of people used unrevoked because it was easy and are new to android so they don't know the difference yet at least.
Toast method ftw! Been following his work since the hero. What's the point of rooting if you can't flash custom roms???
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I dont have any htc sync folder, do i have to?
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Did you format your sd card? you can just download it from htc. goto the evo support section at htc.com and it is in the download section.
mikevillarroel said:
I cant use the adb with the evo, no matter what i do windows dont find the drivers.
If i root with toast method, do i need to flash a custom rom? does everything works on yours?
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I hope this isn't insulting but just to cover all the bases, you have USB Debugging turned on, right?
I had a Hero before this so I didn't have to mess with drivers and cannot remember exactly how difficult it was with the Hero. What Operating System do you have? You can easily find adb drivers by Googling.
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Toast with OMJ rom and Toast radio update.
06ms6 said:
I hope this isn't insulting but just to cover all the bases, you have USB Debugging turned on, right?
I had a Hero before this so I didn't have to mess with drivers and cannot remember exactly how difficult it was with the Hero. What Operating System do you have? You can easily find adb drivers by Googling.
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I've got it now, i was missing the HTC Sync part, gonna start backing up and see what happen, oh....can i unroot or uninstall unrevoked?
mikevillarroel said:
I've got it now, i was missing the HTC Sync part, gonna start backing up and see what happen, oh....can i unroot or uninstall unrevoked?
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Don't worry about it, you'll be flashing a ROM over it. I was using unrevoked before I did Toast's method and it went fine.
Did you flash back to the .1 shipped software (upgrade was the .6)?
Go toast! though unrevoked is nice for those who don't want to tinker too much with the phone but want root
Unrevoked by far. Very clean and simple.
To reverse it? takes 20 seconds..
The REAL winner is who gets r/w access. THATS a rooted phone in my opinion.
flashing custom roms is awesome, but what good is it if you can't r/w the system. pfft.
I have faith that all the devs working on r/w access will pull through. Your work is so very appreciated!
VoXHTC said:
Unrevoked by far. Very clean and simple.
To reverse it? takes 20 seconds..
The REAL winner is who gets r/w access. THATS a rooted phone in my opinion.
flashing custom roms is awesome, but what good is it if you can't r/w the system. pfft.
I have faith that all the devs working on r/w access will pull through. Your work is so very appreciated!
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With toasts you have r/w access once you go into the recovery mode...
06ms6 said:
Don't worry about it, you'll be flashing a ROM over it. I was using unrevoked before I did Toast's method and it went fine.
Did you flash back to the .1 shipped software (upgrade was the .6)?
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well i root but the wire less tether wont work, going to flash a custom romand let you know.
Never mind, i got it working now!
I'm use to flashing Windows mobile roms but new to anDroid
so a couple of things
What's the best way to back things like web bookmarks,contacts,etc,also is there a way to auto reinstall any apps already on there
Finally is the best way to flash roms using Rom manager once the clockwork mod is available for it
Thanks for any help
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anyone
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Titanium Backup should take care of all your backup needs (you need to be rooted in order to use it)...
braby said:
Titanium Backup should take care of all your backup needs (you need to be rooted in order to use it)...
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Will temp root work or do you have to perma root?
Do we have a guide for flashing custom ROMs yet? I see a guide on ROOT and S-OFF, but have no idea what these mean. Again, new to Android (from WM 6.5.5).
I never temprooted, did permroot immediately, but I would assume any type of root will do for TB.
You can always test it out, it's not like it's going to do any damage.
There's a billion guides outthere...every custom ROM so far I see comes with flashing instructions.
The only truly risky thing you can do is flash HBOOT with S-OFF.
For majority of your needs just rooting will do as it allows you to run programs with superuser priviledges, while flashing new HBOOT is for more advanced stuff (as it allows you to write to system partitions (S-OFF means Security OFF), and you can brick a phone very easily.
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New to Android since last week also, you just have to do some reading...it's all available on Google!
I've had an Evo for about 9 months....but....
Work basically just gave me an Atrix and laptop dock to mess with, and even encouraged the "development" side of it (aka root it, without saying root it)
I've done a bit of research, and I have a few questions.
Right away I used the "One Click Root" at the top of this forum.
What I want to know is how to enter Clockword Mod Recovory, which I can on the Evo to backup my phone and flash a rom stored on the SD card.
It doesn't seem to have it unlocked that menu though, as I can't access it by holding those buttons down.
That would make my life alot better, as I can start to experiment for the Roms for this phone (currently running Mik2.3? on the Evo, didn't see a ROM for this phone though )
Anyway, thanks for helping out....I'm excited to learn this phone.
Also, the dock is rather new, any cool tricks I could exploit?
(Have you unlocked the bootloader..?)
Flash romracer's recovery, check in the development forum. Or download Rom Manager and install the recovery from there.
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(Have you unlocked the bootloader..?)
Flash romracer's recovery, check in the development forum. Or download Rom Manager and install the recovery from there.
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Not really sure how to flash in img file.
I really don't remember doing that on the EVO....I can only really do things once I boot into recovery, which I can't seem to figure out on this Phone
Check the noob guide at the top here, all answers are there. First step is to unlock the bootloader.
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Check the noob guide at the top here, all answers are there. First step is to unlock the bootloader.
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Got it unlocked...
Anyway, what exactly is Deodex? not sure I see that with the Evo...
Also, whats the hotness in roms....can i simply place in a directery and flash like i can with evo and recovery screen?
Well I thought I flashed CWM but it just shows up a android guy with an !
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drs6222 said:
Got it unlocked...
Anyway, what exactly is Deodex? not sure I see that with the Evo...
Also, whats the hotness in roms....can i simply place in a directery and flash like i can with evo and recovery screen?
Well I thought I flashed CWM but it just shows up a android guy with an !
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when u first turn on the atrix does it say unlocked in the top left corner if it does download and install ether cwm or rom manager drom market and install the cwm from it then install romracers latest revovery from the dev forums
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Romracer said:
The system runs /system/etc/install-recovery.sh on boot with the stock rom. On boot it checks the recovery partition for some update and with CWM installed decides to reflash the stock recovery over it. Rename or delete the file and the CWM should stick.
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after you delete install-recovery.sh you can flash a recovery and have it stick past reboot.
Alcapone263 said:
after you delete install-recovery.sh you can flash a recovery and have it stick past reboot.
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He shouldn't have to do that. If it's rooted and has an unlocked bootloader he should just be able to download either rom manager from the market and install the recovery that way or he could flash romracer's recovery via fastboot. That's all I really did when I went through this and it worked just fine for me.
On another note, to the thread poster, definitely read the "stuck" threads at the top of each forum and you'll be able to figure everything out without having to ask questions that are already answered. I went through it all and have gotten to the point where I can do a lot of this stuff on my own so I highly recommend doing so.
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GeNiO426 said:
He shouldn't have to do that. If it's rooted and has an unlocked bootloader he should just be able to download either rom manager from the market and install the recovery that way or he could flash romracer's recovery via fastboot. That's all I really did when I went through this and it worked just fine for me.
On another note, to the thread poster, definitely read the "stuck" threads at the top of each forum and you'll be able to figure everything out without having to ask questions that are already answered. I went through it all and have gotten to the point where I can do a lot of this stuff on my own so I highly recommend doing so.
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rooted and unlocked bootloader doesn't matter, if he's on the stock ROM and has that file it runs on boot every time. you can install recovery, but it just won't stick since install-recovery.sh runs at boot every time the file is present.
Let me get this straight if i were to make a factory cable then could I load right up to a recovery and flash a rom without doing anting on the computer right? If not please explain what it can do for an unbricked user.
Thank in advance!
no.
u need a computer. the cable just puts it in *fastboot* mode to be able to run fastboot commands from your computer.
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Oh i was under the impreson that you could put a recovery in a folder the when you hooked up the factroy cable it would load the recovery oh by the way whats the eashest way to put the energy rom on my kindle and I dont whant to root unless neccesary.
can I even use a factory cable without rooting and can I put the recovery on there without rooting?
So you are gonna flash a rom but you don't want to root? Lol
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YESSS! please help.
U can use a factory cable, to replace your recovery and remain on stock OS unrooted if you choose. U can change the bootloader or not as well(without it u need the factory cable to get into recovery). U can make backups, whatever.
As soon as u flash a different rom, u will have root. It wont hurt you, but it'll be there lol
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Basicly I just whant to got rid of the stock and flash twrp so I can flash a Rom and what do you mean Id have to root aferter I pot a Rom on it. Spell fails!
Can someone do a video on the kfs factory cable that would be great
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Basicly I just whant to got rid of the stock and flash twrp so I can flash a Rom and what do you mean Id have to root aferter I pot a Rom on it. Spell fails!
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ALL 100% of custom ROM's are pre-rooted, there is NO reason to not be rooted. You have to root in order to enjoy the better apps available. I've been here 5 years now and never heard of someone who wants a custom ROM installed without Root. It makes no sense at all...
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No no no I mean I whatnt to get to a rooted Rom on my stock 6.3 kf! Any help please
noahawesome said:
No no no I mean I whatnt to get to a rooted Rom on my stock 6.3 kf! Any help please
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There are countless threads on how to do this. Just search, the info is there.
If you want to "remove" root for security reasons or for whatever reason, uninstall superuser.
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ALL 100% of custom ROM's are pre-rooted, there is NO reason to not be rooted. You have to root in order to enjoy the better apps available. I've been here 5 years now and never heard of someone who wants a custom ROM installed without Root. It makes no sense at all...
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miui is a custom rom without root(until its enabled manually).
but yup, without it, I don't know what I would use my device for. I need root
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Thank you everyone who helped! I did what Imntone told me to and it sort of worked! after i got into fastboot, your last two commands didnt work... i used kfu to try to install twrp after getting into fastboot & it worked! THX THX THX for all ur help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angel::victory::laugh::silly::good::highfive:
I think there is some confusion here as to what "rooting" means.
The term "rooting" is generally used in the community for the process of flashing a custom bootloader and recovery in order to gain root access to the device. This isn't really accurate as flashing a custom bootloader and recovery are 2 completely separate processes that just happen to generally be prerequisites to gaining root on many devices. It is completely possible on some devices to root the device without a custom recovery or custom bootloader and it is completely possible on most devices to flash a custom bootloader and recovery without gaining root access.
What becomes confusing to some is the widely known fact that rooting your device voids the warranty. In reality rooting is generally easy to reverse, removing a custom recovery and bootloader is not usually easy to do. Flashing a custom recovery and bootloader is really the reason that your warranty is voided, neglecting to install the superuser.apk to gain root is doing nothing to preserve your warranty. For this reason there really is nothing to gain from flashing a custom recovery and bootloader to install a custom rom without root access over installing a rom with root access. With root access you gain the ability to use many more advanced apps which allow you to take full advantage of the device it also allows you to have the option to modify system files which are normally protected which can allow you to manually fix some problems which may arise.
I hope this helps clear things up for some.
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I've always rooted and flashed roms on my phones. Everything from the sweaty palmed s-offing of my Desire to the simple fastboot commands on my Galaxy Nexus. I've then always gone on to flash roms at least weekly.
I'm about to buy a Nexus 10 and feel like leaving it stock but rooting it to be able to use stuff like Ti backup etc. Is this as straightforward as the GNex - fastboot unlock and fastboot flash su.zip?
I want to still have OTA updates though, does this mean I need to keep the stock recovery and is there a 'root keeper' app?
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GrenW said:
I've always rooted and flashed roms on my phones. Everything from the sweaty palmed s-offing of my Desire to the simple fastboot commands on my Galaxy Nexus. I've then always gone on to flash roms at least weekly.
I'm about to buy a Nexus 10 and feel like leaving it stock but rooting it to be able to use stuff like Ti backup etc. Is this as straightforward as the GNex - fastboot unlock and fastboot flash su.zip?
I want to still have OTA updates though, does this mean I need to keep the stock recovery and is there a 'root keeper' app?
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There are different methods, but if you want to stay on stock, use superboot method. You just need to install a drivers on your pc, and double click a file. You don't need to be unlocked or anything. Search for Nexus 10 superboot on the search button.
Btw I recommend you, if you still don't have the nexus 10 and plan to flash roms, you should use wugs toolkit. Root, unlock, install twrp (custom touch recovery) and in case any day you want to flash a rom, you won't need to unlock and lose your data. Just make a backup and you're ready to go.
Superboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003938
Wug Toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015467
If you want to still have otas, then just use superboot, you don't need to keep the stock recovery but to avoid problems keep it. Just make sure before use ota, you haven't changed any file in the folder /system. For example if you place the aosp browser in /system/apps, put the original files on there, flash the ota, and then put the aosp browser files again. And yes, on the google play there's root keeper and it can be used on nexus 10.
Thanks. I should have the drivers set up on my pc unless I need Nexus 10 specific ones. This was the biggest pita lat time.
Doesn't installing a custom recovery stop OTAs working?
Things is, you're right. I know I'll probably end up flashing a custom rom in the end.
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GrenW said:
Thanks. I should have the drivers set up on my pc unless I need Nexus 10 specific ones. This was the biggest pita lat time.
Doesn't installing a custom recovery stop OTAs working?
Things is, you're right. I know I'll probably end up flashing a custom rom in the end.
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Nope it doesn't. Once the ota shows up, and reboots to recovery, if you have a custom one, it asks if you wanna keep it.
Thanks. All I know is on the Galaxy Nexus the OTA can fail if it detects a non-standard recovery.
Maybe its a CWM thing?