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Root without wiping phone?

Im new to Android coming from winmo, and this might be a noob question but is it possible to root the evo (with or without nand) without wiping / reseting the phone? If not is there a way to backup apps and settings before using something like simple root? I also already have both OTA's.
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if you just want a basic root, definitely go with unrevoked. it doesn't require a wipe. if it were me, with a fresh phone, i would root with unrevoked, get titanium backup from the app store, backup my phone, then do a full root with nand unlock, update to the latest and greatest radio and OTA(it's built into most roms nowadays) and bam, enjoy the rooted freedom!

Thanks for the help. I had been using Unrevoked but after the last OTA it no longer works. So any other ideas?
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[1 Click Root] I Have Two Questions...

Ok, i just heard of the one click root app now out for the nexus one.. I always wanted to root, but every time I did, i was never able to get it. So anyways back to my questions...
*[1] I have stock froyo frf91.. I manually updated all the versions leading up to frf91 not once did I receive an ota update... Once I root, will that cancel my ota's? (even tho I manually update them) will I still get an ota update to gingerbread if I root?
*[2] Once I do this root thing, i want the best rom that includes a fast, clean, eye candy, all black theme. (Including the notification bar) after I find this, how do I go about and apply it? How do I install it?.. Isn't there an app in the market where I can look at the newest roms and themes and just apply them from there?
Sorry for the noob questions guys, i just want to witness what all of you have.. I want to unleash the potential of my nexus one! Lol.
** On a side note, i also heard that once you get a cyanogen rom, it is a must that you download the titanium back up app.. is that right?.. because that rom deletes everything...?
Thanks guys, very much!
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Never heard bout the Backup thing issue,
But No, once rooted you dont get OTA's (due the fact you change recovery image and rom)
I believe if you still keep things stock like Recovery, and Official ROM you do! (but unsure of this)
Also there is a adb way to root which is simple and thats how i rooted my phone!
you can give that a try instead of one click!
there are no roms in market..
Also try to look through the Dev section, to even apple Dev roms you need to flash custom recovery then do a nandroid back up, then from ther you use the apple from sd!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736271
this is the method i followed
-note if this is gonna be your first time rooting, i suggest you read all info possible bout it, then read it again.. the think on how your going to do it , then reread the info then apply.. while applying stil read the info

woah there. He'll still get the OTA notification and can even download it. You just can't apply the OTA updates. You have to use a rooted one, generally available here before you'll ever even see the OTA notification on your phone.

if you are rooting for the first time do it the loop adb way. Its a bit more involved but once you do it you will learn a bit about adb and other methods that you will need in the future.
One-Click root is going to make the more fun parts of modding harder in the future. The guide in the stickies is very easy to follow and it will pay off in the long run.
Or fastboot oem unlock it and have the badge of honor

That's the thing, i've tried doin it the adb way.. it just never worked for me..
And I also don't want to unlock the bootloader
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this way should work like perfect, the other way with pulling sdard way seems kinda over that top for me..

Yea.. so if I use this one click method, i can use custom roms and themes?
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matholomus said:
Yea.. so if I use this one click method, i can use custom roms and themes?
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Yup, I did that yesturday, there are a few more steps after rooting to get custom roms to work but you can do it.
On another note, cant you just flash back to stock, then using rom manager get rid of the custom recovery, then unroot using the 1click root? Wont that put you back to stock? cant you use the ota's then?

The AndRoot app is awesome. U can turn root ON or OFF anytime (even for ota).

Orangeandblue302 said:
Or fastboot oem unlock it and have the badge of honor
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and wear it proudly! fastboot is a cinch and pretty hard to ef up. the worst part is the syntax (especially if you dont have the recovery image in the right directory). i found this link to be helpful in learning how to use fastboot.
i used fastboot to unlock and to flash amon ra. then, running amon ra, i flashed whatever ROM i wanted. later, just for s and giggles i used rom manager to install the clockwork mod recovery.
if you dont like the outcome, you can always flash back to stock which will redo the stock recovery too... but the unlock badge will remain proudly displayed.

[Q] Nandroid backup before permaroot

Hi
My DHD is just temproot and as it say on modaco before permroot you should have a safety net
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-hd-desirehd-modaco-com/320722/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
How do i create a backup of the ROM im using right now?
Also how do i use framework-res.apk from the SKins thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801928

I think that guide is referring to the need to have a copy of the relevant ruu for your device. I know I didn't do anything until this was safely stored on my hdd!
That's your safety net ... if all else fails you can then just flash the ruu and you're back to stock.

cant i just install ROM manager and backup the rom im using
can that be used as a safety net?

Yes I think so but I would always go the ruu root when restoring to stock.
I think nandroid performs a backup as part of the setup process actually, can't remember. No harm in having a backup AND the ruu though

im backing my ROM using ROM Manager and the Orange RUU is perfect for my device
Thanks for all your help.

HELP i installed ROM MANAGER i had Temproot no S OFF and i just installed CLOCkwork and clicked back up current rom, it rebooted got HTC scrren and now theres just a phone icon with a red triangle with exclamation mark.

Remove battery and reboot, what happens?

its working fine but no backup of the current ROM

Shall i just perm root?
ive got the RUU on my HDD

Sounds like you need to s-off your dhd then. I'd use the eng hboot method shown in the guide.
Wasn't sure if you could backup without, seems not.
Yeah I'd permroot also, for one extra click ;-)

should i just permroot? ive downloaded the RUU_Ace_Orange_UK_1.40.61.2_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_157531_signed.exe
on my HDD

Permrooted thanks
How do you change the framework that you get with the skins? Do I just replace it and reboot?
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Haven't done anything with skins I'm afraid so can't answer that. I'm sure someone else will have dabbled and will have some advice though.

Aamir.Badat said:
Permrooted thanks
How do you change the framework that you get with the skins? Do I just replace it and reboot?
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Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=766, here there are lots of threads on skins, themes etc and some include the framework walk through you need....
You need to flash your framework, but please...take a backup just in case

Factory cable

Let me get this straight if i were to make a factory cable then could I load right up to a recovery and flash a rom without doing anting on the computer right? If not please explain what it can do for an unbricked user.
Thank in advance!

no.
u need a computer. the cable just puts it in *fastboot* mode to be able to run fastboot commands from your computer.
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Oh i was under the impreson that you could put a recovery in a folder the when you hooked up the factroy cable it would load the recovery oh by the way whats the eashest way to put the energy rom on my kindle and I dont whant to root unless neccesary.

can I even use a factory cable without rooting and can I put the recovery on there without rooting?

So you are gonna flash a rom but you don't want to root? Lol
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YESSS! please help.

U can use a factory cable, to replace your recovery and remain on stock OS unrooted if you choose. U can change the bootloader or not as well(without it u need the factory cable to get into recovery). U can make backups, whatever.
As soon as u flash a different rom, u will have root. It wont hurt you, but it'll be there lol
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Basicly I just whant to got rid of the stock and flash twrp so I can flash a Rom and what do you mean Id have to root aferter I pot a Rom on it. Spell fails!

Can someone do a video on the kfs factory cable that would be great

noahawesome said:
Basicly I just whant to got rid of the stock and flash twrp so I can flash a Rom and what do you mean Id have to root aferter I pot a Rom on it. Spell fails!
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ALL 100% of custom ROM's are pre-rooted, there is NO reason to not be rooted. You have to root in order to enjoy the better apps available. I've been here 5 years now and never heard of someone who wants a custom ROM installed without Root. It makes no sense at all...
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No no no I mean I whatnt to get to a rooted Rom on my stock 6.3 kf! Any help please

noahawesome said:
No no no I mean I whatnt to get to a rooted Rom on my stock 6.3 kf! Any help please
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There are countless threads on how to do this. Just search, the info is there.
If you want to "remove" root for security reasons or for whatever reason, uninstall superuser.
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SkOrPn said:
ALL 100% of custom ROM's are pre-rooted, there is NO reason to not be rooted. You have to root in order to enjoy the better apps available. I've been here 5 years now and never heard of someone who wants a custom ROM installed without Root. It makes no sense at all...
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miui is a custom rom without root(until its enabled manually).
but yup, without it, I don't know what I would use my device for. I need root
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Thank you everyone who helped! I did what Imntone told me to and it sort of worked! after i got into fastboot, your last two commands didnt work... i used kfu to try to install twrp after getting into fastboot & it worked! THX THX THX for all ur help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angel::victory::laugh::silly::good::highfive:

I think there is some confusion here as to what "rooting" means.
The term "rooting" is generally used in the community for the process of flashing a custom bootloader and recovery in order to gain root access to the device. This isn't really accurate as flashing a custom bootloader and recovery are 2 completely separate processes that just happen to generally be prerequisites to gaining root on many devices. It is completely possible on some devices to root the device without a custom recovery or custom bootloader and it is completely possible on most devices to flash a custom bootloader and recovery without gaining root access.
What becomes confusing to some is the widely known fact that rooting your device voids the warranty. In reality rooting is generally easy to reverse, removing a custom recovery and bootloader is not usually easy to do. Flashing a custom recovery and bootloader is really the reason that your warranty is voided, neglecting to install the superuser.apk to gain root is doing nothing to preserve your warranty. For this reason there really is nothing to gain from flashing a custom recovery and bootloader to install a custom rom without root access over installing a rom with root access. With root access you gain the ability to use many more advanced apps which allow you to take full advantage of the device it also allows you to have the option to modify system files which are normally protected which can allow you to manually fix some problems which may arise.
I hope this helps clear things up for some.
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Is there a stock (ROM) root method that will not require me to reset all my settings?

I'm sorry if this has been posted already, but searching on my phone for this answer has been less than ideal, so I've resorted to making a post. I'm hoping someone can link me to a thread that has this available.
I'm looking to root my phone, but I've already got it setup the way I like and I really don't want to go through the hassle of getting everything all ironed out again. So here is what I'm looking for:
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
As of now I have no desire to go after any custom ROMs until I find some added functionality that I really see being useful that also doesn't break other features of my phone. So I'm really waiting on development to mature a bit more for this device before even considering something custom.
Thanks to anyone who can offer some help.

1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
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Rooting doesn't touch your ROM, so you're still in stock.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup
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Most, if not all, rooting methods have boot-loader unlocking as a prerequisite.
Unlocking boot-loader will wipe your phone. There is no alternative.
On the bright side, you can make a backup of your system, unlock boot-loader, restore your system, then root the phone.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
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As long as you don't flash customer recovery, you're fine.

What are my backup alternatives then to keep all those settings? I've only ever rooted one device before and I thought Titanium Backup (which requires root) was one of the only backup methods for this sort of thing? Or is there something I'm missing?

there is one backup that the app has a picture of one of those hula hoops use for saving people from drowning...

My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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The guide stickied in this section is relevant to your interests.
Adb backup...
Unlock.
Restore...and it'll be like you never touched anything.

MattSkeet said:
My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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How exactly is he going to backup the ROM in custom recovery.. if he is still bootloader locked?
ADB backup will backup your settings without being rooted.

OK thanks, I'll give that a try.