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Currently we only have one kernel port from S3 and 3 decent roms after one month of the release.
Do you know if anyother developer like siyah or franco are going to make kernels for our device? It is a shame to don't have it
kersh said:
Currently we only have one kernel port from S3 and 3 decent roms after one month of the release.
Do you know if anyother developer like siyah or franco are going to make kernels for our device? It is a shame to don't have it
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Gokhan wont develop kernels for note 2, he develops only for phones which he has. Franco has made a lot of kernels for different phones and he doesnt have time. He started development for note 1 but later it was abandoned, with s3 updates was pretty slow comparing with siyah and andreilux kernels. For me stock kernel rooted+stock firmware the best. Amazing performance+battery life
The reason for the "poor" development for the Note 2 is:
It's great, Never before i had an Android-Phone better than this, Very good work by Samsung-Engineers.
It's super fast, smooth, stable and batterylife is extraordinary good.
So, what to improve by the developers?
Customizing with Themes is OK in my eyes. The performance of the Note 2 is outstanding even with Stock-Firmware. No need for Custom Kernel / Rom.
regards
Exactly. There is nothing to develop in an already developed thing.
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There is no documentation or source codes for Exynos devices. Not forgetting that it's a young device. There's a petition for Samsung to release the information, but being proprietary SoC's they don't have to release anything.
A quick google would answer your questions.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 through the Space Time Continuum
hurricane3d said:
The reason for the "poor" development for the Note 2 is:
It's great, Never before i had an Android-Phone better than this, Very good work by Samsung-Engineers.
It's super fast, smooth, stable and batterylife is extraordinary good.
So, what to improve by the developers?
Customizing with Themes is OK in my eyes. The performance of the Note 2 is outstanding even with Stock-Firmware. No need for Custom Kernel / Rom.
regards
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You do know what XDA is about right?
jujuburi said:
Exactly. There is nothing to develop in an already developed thing.
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Garbage.
Suicidal Chicken said:
There is no documentation or source codes for Exynos devices. Not forgetting that it's a young device. There's a petition for Samsung to release the information, but being proprietary SoC's they don't have to release anything.
A quick google would answer your questions.
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Bingo.
I'm ok to say the note 2 is already perfect but this device need a dpi per app in the samsung firmware.
Why you don't develop then?
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I really wish, but I can't...
Suicidal Chicken said:
There is no documentation or source codes for Exynos devices. Not forgetting that it's a young device. There's a petition for Samsung to release the information, but being proprietary SoC's they don't have to release anything.
A quick google would answer your questions.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 through the Space Time Continuum
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Is this what you're talking about?
"Developers, start your ROM engines! In what is sure to be a boon to the rooted communities for the popular Galaxy Note 2 and the international version of the Galasy S III, Samsung tweeted earlier today that we should "expect full availability of integrated source code for #Exynos 4 family of processors on OrigenBoard by the end of 2012!"
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...nos-4-series-source-code-by-end-of-2012-r1203
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Is this what you're talking about?
"Developers, start your ROM engines! In what is sure to be a boon to the rooted communities for the popular Galaxy Note 2 and the international version of the Galasy S III, Samsung tweeted earlier today that we should "expect full availability of integrated source code for #Exynos 4 family of processors on OrigenBoard by the end of 2012!"
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...nos-4-series-source-code-by-end-of-2012-r1203
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cough *broken source code* cough
Poor Development
May be Note II model has still not landed in the hands of the potential developers. Development may take off in the very near future.
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Garbage.
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What is? Stop being a smarta$$! Anyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, and imo in this case I was right.
And what's xda about? It's for so called 'development' for those devices which are basically crap. But no one gives a damn about development for Note 2.
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What is? Stop being a smarta$$! Anyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, and imo in this case I was right.
And what's xda about? It's for so called 'development' for those devices which are basically crap. But no one gives a damn about development for Note 2.
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You're entitled to have your own opinion, but this is not about opinion, it's about facts; and your facts are dead wrong.
"It's for so called 'development' for those devices which are basically crap"
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So you're saying that every single Android device out there is crap?
"But no one gives a damn about development for Note 2."
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You do realize that the Note 2 just got released right?
I'm not sure why you are here at all. You do know that XDA is a DEVELOPMENT forum right? If you're not interested in modifying and development, then why are you here?
I was a bit gutted with so few roms out. I pick up my phone in the morning, was gonna tweak and flash tomorrow night.
But after a little though, do I need to? I've not even got it yet. I just wana flash and tweak out of habit. And it's only been out weeks.
I love the resurection rom on my s2, I like the UI. But I was runiing Wanam lite before that and it was good rom, I liked the layout. I'll give it a few weeks, see how it feels, but I'm quite happy that a developer (Wanam) I've used before is up and running on the note 2. It won't have as many developers as the s2 or s3, but I expect more will come.
Xda hasn't let me down yet, alomst six years in,
I have faith that XDA will help me tweak and flash when I need new features.
Thanks to all the devs, on all the phones, especially the note 2 though
Why are U here?
Forums require a few basic social skills and your about junior high level.
Be a big boy and start responding without bring rude.
QUOTE=LordManhattan;33438033]You're entitled to have your own opinion, but this is not about opinion, it's about facts; and your facts are dead wrong.
So you're saying that every single Android device out there is crap?
You do realize that the Note 2 just got released right?
I'm not sure why you are here at all. You do know that XDA is a DEVELOPMENT forum right? If you're not interested in modifying and development, then why are you here?[/QUOTE]
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I pretty much agree....as much as I've loved modding over the years, this device leaves me with the least amount of motivation to tweak it whatsoever. No need for battery saving mods. If your a themefreak well then yeah, I'm not.
CM to me for this device dumbs it down (this from a longtime CM'er)...doesn't bring anything speed wise, and the Samsung Note features are just too cool to forego...(for me)atures
Kernel options are a mute point tho I do enjoy overclocking at times.
Mod's like multitasking unlimited apps are great (for me).
Developing a per app adjustable dpi would be great actually, but not going aosp to do it.
Lotta other minor stuff I could list but, hey....I never thought I'd say it but hats off to Samsung for releasing the first device I've ever been .satisfied with out of the box .
I had Galaxy Note before and many renowned developers there are getting Note 2 before the end of this year and probably we will see boom in developement when those developers get Note2.... among those is is g.lewarne the creator of Hydracore kernels which made Note 1 fly like anything.
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Jelly Bean TW Miui with all S pen functionalites and tricks of Samsung will take Note 2 to another level.
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Jelly Bean TW Miui with all S pen functionalites and tricks of Samsung will take Note 2 to another level.
if it ain't broke don't fix it. I had a galaxy nexus before but at this point I am fully content with the stock device, not even rooted. I feel that since Jelly Bean custom stuff as become less interesting. Installing custom stuff is becoming more a hobby than a requirement.
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if it ain't broke don't fix it. I had a galaxy nexus before but at this point I am fully content with the stock device, not even rooted. I feel that since Jelly Bean custom stuff as become less interesting. Installing custom stuff is becoming more a hobby than a requirement.
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+1 you are absolutly right.:good:
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You're entitled to have your own opinion, but this is not about opinion, it's about facts; and your facts are dead wrong.
So you're saying that every single Android device out there is crap?
You do realize that the Note 2 just got released right?
I'm not sure why you are here at all. You do know that XDA is a DEVELOPMENT forum right? If you're not interested in modifying and development, then why are you here?
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I really don't reply to 'these' meaningless comments but still I'm doing as I've nothing better to do atm.
Why I am here? Well that ain't your business. So get over with it.
I'm saying every Android device is crap? I'll donate you 10000$ if you can find that in my post.
Still I'm saying, yes, not every device is S2, S3, OX or Note 2, and just because God gifted me with plenty of money doesn't mean everyone could purchase these high end toys. There are PLENTY mid and low range Droid exists, and your so called 'development' theory applied to 'those' devices, NOT by any means to the top guns like I mentioned above.
Do you realize Note 2 just got released right? Yes, I do. And frankly, I'm so happy that there isn't much needless stuffs going on in the so called 'development' section, more 'development' means more freaks and kids and it's a damn disgrace for any forum.
In the end, I paid 700 $ to Samsung and they gave me a beautiful device ( Yes, some glitches are there of course, but where doesn't? ) and that's all I care about. I don't want a half baked overhyped crap on my lovely phone, and I like Apple products more than a hormone crazed flashoholic. (No disrespect meant to Apple). Still, some great persons are here, like Chainfire, Hardcore, Supercurio etc, who are attracting persons like me to surf this forum now and then, but the number is few, very few.
One more thing, don't take this forum as your personal property, you are just another user like me with more thanks metre and a pesky tag, things mean the least to me.
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When I buy my GS3 When release the development was to high ci only see now 2 or 4 roms why so poor ?? Other fee grear kernels like franco siyah kernel now only have 2 custom kernels
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what version of s4 you have ?
There are quite a few stock ROMs for the I9500 but, in terms of CM10.1 and the like, you will need to wait until someone gets around to overcoming the closed source nature of Exynos the phone contains.
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He has the I9500 as posted by tapatalk sig. The I9505 will have greater development. But it's still relatively new for both models anyway.
U guys think that some one will be close to the sources ?? The i9300 has support for cm
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U guys think that some one will be close to the sources ?? The i9300 has support for cm
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The S3 has CM because the CM team bust a gut to get it working with no help from Samsung. And its still not working 100%. As a result of this and Samsung's broken promises they have decided to swerve the Exynos S4.
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If you want developer support you have to stay away from Exynos. Samsung is an a..hole S4 will be my last Samsung device.
Pagnell said:
The S3 has CM because the CM team bust a gut to get it working with no help from Samsung. And its still not working 100%. As a result of this and Samsung's broken promises they have decided to swerve the Exynos S4.
Sent from my Qualcomm Galaxy S4
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It helped that the Exynos4 Quad (4412) had a lot of commonality with the Exynos4 Dual (4210) in the GS2.
But it's been no secret since September that the Exynos 4412 was the end of the line for those of us that worked with Exynos unless Samsung made significant changes. Someone else might step up, but it's pretty unlikely IMO. All of the ex-Teamhacksung guys are working with various Qcoms now.
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It helped that the Exynos4 Quad (4412) had a lot of commonality with the Exynos4 Dual (4210) in the GS2.
But it's been no secret since September that the Exynos 4412 was the end of the line for those of us that worked with Exynos unless Samsung made significant changes. Someone else might step up, but it's pretty unlikely IMO. All of the ex-Teamhacksung guys are working with various Qcoms now.
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Coming from a CM member that must be really depressing news for I9500 owners who would rather not be on Touchwiz.
I have the S4 i9500 and the HTC ONE and it looks like the ONE gets lot more attention from the devs...
and that is to bad.. the stock version is very lagy in comparing to the HTC
srstas said:
I have the S4 i9500 and the HTC ONE and it looks like the ONE gets lot more attention from the devs...
and that is to bad..
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Blame Samsung.
1) lack of source codes for the previous exynos in galaxy s3 is a well known problem preventing the ability to create good, custom and clean android roms for s3. therefore, many developers have decided ditching s3 custom roms.
im afraid there will never be any good clean android roms for S4.. or it will take a long time.
what do you think? why doesnt samsung release the source code of the exynos 5?
Will exynos 5's source code be released soon???????
2) a new linux version 3.10 has been release, supporting exynos 5 core.. when it will be used in galaxy s4???
3) how will linux 3.10 improve android? will it be better/faster?
4)Ive heard that samsung is busy developing a new SoC, Exynos 5420
when it will be released and what will it do
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1) lack of source codes for the previous exynos in galaxy s3 is a well known problem preventing the ability to create good, custom and clean android roms for s3. therefore, many developers have decided ditching s3 custom roms.
im afraid there will never be any good clean android roms for S4.. or it will take a long time.
what do you think? why doesnt samsung release the source code of the exynos 5?
Will exynos 5's source code be released soon???????
2) a new linux version 3.10 has been release, supporting exynos 5 core.. when it will be used in galaxy s4???
3) how will linux 3.10 improve android? will it be better/faster?
4)Ive heard that samsung is busy developing a new SoC, Exynos 5420
when it will be released and what will it do
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1- Exynos Code are probably never to be released though i heard about this exynos octa arndale version that may help in getting additional infos about the Chip
2 and 3-this new linux version is probably to be used with newer version of android it brings big.little optimazation so it will make the exynos SOC run efficiently however it is not know how it would improve it or using which scenario .and yes i will be faster and more power efficient
4- this SOC is more likely to be used with future devices like note 3
jj9922 said:
1- Exynos Code are probably never to be released though i heard about this exynos octa arndale version that may help in getting additional infos about the Chip
2 and 3-this new linux version is probably to be used with newer version of android it brings big.little optimazation so it will make the exynos SOC run efficiently however it is not know how it would improve it or using which scenario .and yes i will be faster and more power efficient
4- this SOC is more likely to be used with future devices like note 3
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thanks for answering
when will exynos octa arndale version be released?
So does that mean we are not going to see AOKP on i9500 soon. I love AOKPs and am cursing myself for not buying the i9505 as it was available. Smartphone is no joy without AOKP.
darixtorento said:
thanks for answering
when will exynos octa arndale version be released?
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this might help you http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/
jj9922 said:
this might help you http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-pre-order/
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this is from april 2013.. pretty old dont you think?
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this is from april 2013.. pretty old dont you think?
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yes but it should give you an idea about it
We all miss AOKP!
Hello guys, an Android / xda developers n00b here...
The Octo Core GT-I9500 was the only choice here since it's the only S4 model shipped in my country so I'm a bit frustrated too about the AOKP thing - which I learned it may well be the next big thing after CyanogenMOD itself.
I'm about to flash Arrow ROM right now which seems pretty interesting and also will give Omega ROM a try, while we can't put our dirty hands on AOKP we surely have two really nice mods to play with
As such, I'm all years about your experiences - if any - with any of these two ROMs.
Cheers
so no aokp coming soon?
even GS3 got aopk faster
Comon people please help
Comon i need answersssss
Comon what goes on there are any news?
Where is aopk for s4
what goes on
learn to search and read .. sorry to offend u ..
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learn to search and read .. sorry to offend u ..
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i did, and found nothing
darixtorento said:
i did, and found nothing
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If there ia nothing... there is nothing.
In my country we say
A watched pot never boils.
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Gillion said:
If there ia nothing... there is nothing.
In my country we say
A watched pot never boils.
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Or what is more or less the same thing: it will not get faster no matter how much you stand still looking at it!
(and, btw, this is just what's happening to me reloading the site every 5' min awaiting for the imminent release of Arrow ROM 4.0, lol!)
In general thread of i9500 and i9505 a thread exist s about cm development for i9500 some good info there!
You heard it right!
http://androidspin.com/2013/10/31/android-4-4-uploaded-aosp/
I hope the devs can get a flashable rom going quite soon, I dont care if the whole thing doesnt work I just wanna try it out, probably the same with most of you, no?
God, im excited, what about you guys?
~ Jack
I'm not that excited. I think it's great for this device's development, but I personally prefer the battery life and stability that the stock rom gives us. The official 4.3 will suffice for me until I upgrade to a different phone.
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At the moment we need Mali blobbs for 4.3...4.4 will come later, maybe summer 14.
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At the moment we need Mali blobbs for 4.3...4.4 will come later, maybe summer 14.
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Like that's going to happen...
Robin2 said:
I'm not that excited. I think it's great for this device's development, but I personally prefer the battery life and stability that the stock rom gives us. The official 4.3 will suffice for me until I upgrade to a different phone.
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I found the device to be more stable using Cyanogenmod. I also get better battery life. But when 4.3 comes out I will probably go back to stock.
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I found the device to be more stable using Cyanogenmod. I also get better battery life. But when 4.3 comes out I will probably go back to stock.
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I agree, stock seems to give better battery life and i will also go to 4.3 but for a while... i might revert back
the only thing i didnt like about touchwiz was that it just lagged all the time
4.4 may still come to the s3 it can run on devices with 512 mb ram so hopefully something happens here
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we can wait for AOSP rom..maybe soon...
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I found the device to be more stable using Cyanogenmod. I also get better battery life. But when 4.3 comes out I will probably go back to stock.
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In terms of battery life: CM 10.1.3>Stock>CM 10.2
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In terms of battery life: CM 10.1.3>Stock>CM 10.2
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Not for me. 10.2 > 10.1.x
(Only on slimbean.. dont know why.. i miss halo though)
samsung most probably wont officially update the s3 to 4.4 because by the time 4.4 is out for samsung devices, s3 will be out of the 18 months update window provided by samsung.
the hardware wont be at fault over here though.
we may be ditched just like galaxy nexus is ditched for 4.4 kitkat.
not letting you guys down, just telling a possibility.
peace..
"Sedan tidigare har en Samsung-representant bekräftat att fjolårets Galaxy S3 och Note 2 ska uppdateras till Android 4.4."
Several Swedish sites confirms that Samsung will roll out 4.4 to S3, btw i cant link it but Google it
Robin2 said:
I'm not that excited. I think it's great for this device's development, but I personally prefer the battery life and stability that the stock rom gives us. The official 4.3 will suffice for me until I upgrade to a different phone.
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I've got this feeling also. I think I will stay on 4.3, though 4.4 might just make it even better.
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At the moment we need Mali blobbs for 4.3...4.4 will come later, maybe summer 14.
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I don't care about TouchWiz
Right now CM10.2 works really well (no thanks to Samsung) and I hope the devs will do the same with 4.4
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samsung most probably wont officially update the s3 to 4.4 because by the time 4.4 is out for samsung devices, s3 will be out of the 18 months update window provided by samsung.
the hardware wont be at fault over here though.
we may be ditched just like galaxy nexus is ditched for 4.4 kitkat.
not letting you guys down, just telling a possibility.
peace..
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I believe it was said before that Knox would be coming to the S3 in the form of Android 4.4 (as well as the Note 2)...
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Soryuu said:
I believe it was said before that Knox would be coming to the S3 in the form of Android 4.4 (as well as the Note 2)...
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You read it wrong. it will be coming in the form of android 4.3 update.
JackHanAnLG said:
I agree, stock seems to give better battery life and i will also go to 4.3 but for a while... i might revert back
the only thing i didnt like about touchwiz was that it just lagged all the time
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how do you revert back from cm10.2 to stock when 4.3 comes out?
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I don't care about TouchWiz
Right now CM10.2 works really well (no thanks to Samsung) and I hope the devs will do the same with 4.4
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?? touchwiz? who said anything about touchwiz?
he's talking about the binary blobs of the mali driver. CM needs that too, for smooth animations and the like.
That's the reason why CM 10.2 has laggy animations and CM 10.1.3 doesn't. Same reason for Omni.
We have 4.2 blobs, but not for 4.3.
Exynos
So.. I'm sure the community will release a 4.4 ROM sooner or later but depending on the community rather than Samsung i think that a broad community is necessary to get good results. I was used to a great developer community delivering great ROMs and options for my Samsung Captivate but now i see that somewhat diminished in i9300 because of the Exynos code being closed to devs. Camera being faulty, animations being laggy, etc.
I'm wondering that maybe its time to move from my gs3 to some other device with a Snapdragon maybe and an active dev community. I'm not a dev but I really enjoy their work. Which device do you think its currently one that promises good dev activity? Am I right to think snapdragon is a better choice? In that case, could a, say ATT GS4 with Snapdragon, be a better option?
Thank you!
Nexus 5, i9505 or xperia z1
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Right now Note 3's been out for several months but the development sub-forum's still pretty dead as compared to S4, Note 2, and S3 (which have been out for a longer time). I'm thinking of buying a Note 3, but 3rd-party development is a pretty big factor for me. So I'm just wondering, in the future, will Note 3 development increase? Or will it plateau once the new line of S5 and Note 4 comes out?
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Right now Note 3's been out for several months but the development sub-forum's still pretty dead as compared to S4, Note 2, and S3 (which have been out for a longer time). I'm thinking of buying a Note 3, but 3rd-party development is a pretty big factor for me. So I'm just wondering, in the future, will Note 3 development increase? Or will it plateau once the new line of S5 and Note 4 comes out?
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what thread you looking at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/themes-apps
not that bad at all
jaythenut said:
what thread you looking at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/themes-apps
not that bad at all
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It's not bad, compared to some of the more obscure phones in the market
But vs. the no. of threads in the development forum in say, S4 i9505, it pales in comparison, no doubt.
I'm just curious if the level of activity of developers for Note 3 will still increase even after the launch of new phones
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It's not bad, compared to some of the more obscure phones in the market
But vs. the no. of threads in the development forum in say, S4 i9505, it pales in comparison, no doubt.
I'm just curious if the level of activity of developers for Note 3 will still increase even after the launch of new phones
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yeah should do
Once a Kitkat kernal source is released etc compatibility with new boot loader and other factors. We will start seeing more and more development and mods. Since Kitkat has been released/leaked it has kinda halted development due to boot loader and kernel. Once devs get a good grip on it boom amazing things will happen
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Once a method to root, install revovery, custom rom, without tripping knox comes along, itll be crazy in here!
This is my first Samsung phone, having previously had various HTC and latterly the Nexus 5.
Given the fact that Note 3 is reported to have sold over 10 million units, I have also been surprised at an apparent deficit in custom roms and general customisation compared to for example HTC One.
I do hope this will improve in time
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Sources for KK were released today, including the Kernel Source.. SO should make things more interesting,
Quality over quantity surely.
With the Note 3 and probably future Samsung devices, Samsung is making them harder to mess with , hence comment a few posts back. Samsung with kitkat has introduced code to make fake s view covers stop working. It's a similar thing to made for Apple, Samsung is starting the same stuff.
Im quite happy with the development for the Note 3!
Got KK running nicely, option of CM, root is working. Lots of nice Xposed modules...
Its all looking nice.
That is for the N9005 though... Not sure about other variants...
Reminds me of a saying " Quantity doesn't represent Quality ! "
I'm quite happy with how things are coming along with the Note 3, I've come from a Note 2 and Galaxy S2 so Yeah i have been used to a mass supply of Roms on previous devices, But currently im testing out the new CM 11 builds ( nightlies) and X-note....Both are Fantastic roms!
My advice would simply be : Buy the Note 3 you wont regret it , You cant look at tech like it'll be supported forever.. just enjoy it whilst its here
Look at all the older devices that are still supported on XDA - Note 2 for example; its bigger brother is out and yet he's still getting some love
I am happy with current development of Note 3.
Lots doesn't means great.
Important is development quality.
souljasteve84 said:
Once a Kitkat kernal source is released etc compatibility with new boot loader and other factors. We will start seeing more and more development and mods. Since Kitkat has been released/leaked it has kinda halted development due to boot loader and kernel. Once devs get a good grip on it boom amazing things will happen
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I see, so you mean that development has slowed down because devs want to wait for kitkat and develop for it?
fterh said:
I see, so you mean that development has slowed down because devs want to wait for kitkat and develop for it?
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I'd say so, Yes.
The good news is Samsung has released there kernel source for Kitkat now it's only a matter of time till we start seeing custom kernels and custom roms with full customisation. Give it less then a week and we will see our first custom kernel for Kitkat then the ball will start rolling
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souljasteve84 said:
The good news is Samsung has released there kernel source for Kitkat now it's only a matter of time till we start seeing custom kernels and custom roms with full customisation. Give it less then a week and we will see our first custom kernel for Kitkat then the ball will start rolling
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Hmm... then how come there are KitKat ROMs for Note 3 (Cyanogenmod nightlies) even before Samsung released the source? From what other posters have replied I gather it's not possible to develop a ROM without access the the kernel?
fterh said:
Hmm... then how come there are KitKat ROMs for Note 3 (Cyanogenmod nightlies) even before Samsung released the source? From what other posters have replied I gather it's not possible to develop a ROM without access the the kernel?
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Well hmmmm lol yes there are custom kit Kat roms and yes they are great but no custom kernels for kit Kat, for me I am excited about custom kernels more then custom roms. So with the kernel source release kit Kat can finally have custom kernels which is great for development
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souljasteve84 said:
Well hmmmm lol yes there are custom kit Kat roms and yes they are great but no custom kernels for kit Kat, for me I am excited about custom kernels more then custom roms. So with the kernel source release kit Kat can finally have custom kernels which is great for development
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Hmm I'm confused ><
I thought you need the kernel to have a ROM? If the KitKat kernel is not released, how do ppl develop KitKat ROMs? o.o
fterh said:
Hmm I'm confused ><
I thought you need the kernel to have a ROM? If the KitKat kernel is not released, how do ppl develop KitKat ROMs? o.o
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Devs can still develop Kitkat roms but before the kernel source release only stock kernel was and could only be used. Now they can add custom kernels they build to the already built custom roms
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souljasteve84 said:
Devs can still develop Kitkat roms but before the kernel source release only stock kernel was and could only be used. Now they can add custom kernels they build to the already built custom roms
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But how do you use the stock kernel without knowing the source? Don't you need the code to be able to incorporate it in your ROM?
Sorry if my questions are silly but I'm not very well versed in the technical aspects of Android