Hey guys I was so impressed with my new snap 800 note 3
I pushed my old man to ditch his pos nexus 10 and get a 10.1 2014 asap it just came in literally 45min ago.
Are there any bounty threads rolling yet for 0X0 root on the US exynos 10.1 2014 edition yet? (Christ can they make the name any more longer and confusing FFS?)
Thanks! Seems like a great unit compared to the n10 I hope we can get more than 4 hrs battery. Ugh.. the n10 was a disaster if we get battery close to to note 3 this baby is a keeper.
Cheers!
There was a bounty thread for creating a root method with KNOX 0x0 and we had a developer, Beanstown, take on the challenge. However, his root method, while successful in rooting the device, trips the KNOX counter. He collected the $300+ bounty anyway, even though he only accomplished half of what the bounty was for, and effectively killed off the only incentive we had to offer for getting a full proof root from another, more capable developer.
He's an asset to the XDA community, I'm sure he has contributed a great deal to the Android customization scene, he did give us root and people were happy enough to contribute their pledge to him, but personally, I think it was a **** move on his part to collect it. As a man, if I didn't deliver on what's expected of me I would not have collected the $ or would have only taken half of it, seeing as I only accomplished half the goal.
I mean think about what that says to people considering buying this tablet, "Yeah, you can root it, but your $600 tablet is now completely void of warranty, good luck when something happens" That's not exactly gonna create enough interest from people who are into customizing their android devices, people who serve as a source of demand to get more developers working on this, so we're kind of stuck in a development limbo.
Anyways, it was before my time on here and people did with their money as they chose, can't fault them. However. I'd be happy to pledge $20 towards a real root method.
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There was a bounty thread for creating a root method with KNOX 0x0 and we had a developer, Beanstown, take on the challenge. However, his root method, while successful in rooting the device, trips the KNOX counter. He collected the $300+ bounty anyway, even though he only accomplished half of what the bounty was for, and effectively killed off the only incentive we had to offer for getting a full proof root from another, more capable developer.
He's an asset to the XDA community, I'm sure he has contributed a great deal to the Android customization scene, he did give us root and people where happy enough to contribute their pledge to him, but personally, I think it was a **** move on his part to collect it. As a man, if I didn't deliver on what's expected of me I would not have collected the $ or would have taken half of it, seeing as I only accomplished half the goal.
I mean think about what that says to people considering picking up this tablet, "Yeah, you can root it, but your $600 tablet is now completely void of warranty, good luck when something happens" That's not exactly gonna create enough interest from people who are into customizing their android devices, people who serve as a source of demand to get more developers working on this, so we're kind of in development limbo.
Anyway, it was before my time on here and people did with their money as they chose, can't fault them. However. I'd be happy to pledge $20 towards a real root method.
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Yeah, I made a pledge for root and was disappointed to find that it tripped knox. I didn't specify 0x0 (since I didn't know much about knox prior to this) so I paid up. Definitely doesn't motivate me to pledge again on things I don't have a full understanding of but IF there is a full success I will donate again. I keep hoping that beans is still working on it and has every intent to finish what he started. As it stands, I don't care to take advantage of the root that I helped to fund.
I am VERY careful of who and what I send funds to, one, I'm not rich, and two, if I sent funds to every pledge that wanted it, I'd be broke.
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Yeah, I made a pledge for root and was disappointed to find that it tripped knox. I didn't specify 0x0 (since I didn't know much about knox prior to this) so I paid up. Definitely doesn't motivate me to pledge again on things I don't have a full understanding of but IF there is a full success I will donate again. I keep hoping that beans is still working on it and has every intent to finish what he started. As it stands, I don't care to take advantage of the root that I helped to fund.
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About 2 weeks ago, one of his very last posts in this section of XDA was about how he was planning on returning the Note '14 and waiting for the 2nd generation Nexus. So who knows?
I think the best thing to do will be for us, as a community, to figure out ways to drum up developer support for this device in more ways then just a bounty. We currently have a couple of members who have reached out to Note III developers who have shown interest in creating Roms for the Note tablet. Some of us are trying to put together a custom recovery using an automated method, but so far it hasn't been successful and none of us are really that experienced in these things.
If we can drum up support from developers for recoveries, roms or roots, then eventually they will figure out a way to reverse the KNOX counter for everyone who rooted their device the Beanstown106 way as well. Because even if you're the luckiest person on the planet, got a zero fault device or you treat this tablet like it's a Rolls Royce, it's eventually going to run out of battery cycles just from charging the device every day. And that battery is going to need to be replaced. (Li-Ion batteries get around 300 cycles before serious degradation occurs, so expect it happening in the first year) We can't really leave these people out in the cold with a $600 tablet in their hands, especially people who have no idea what that KNOX counter does.
I wish I had the funds to just buy one for development, maybe we need to set up a permanent fund on XDA, that one could draw from if they could prove that they were deserving of it by meeting certain requirements. This asking funds for every device is getting to be too expensive.
HOLY S&!%!!!!!
In the Note 3's general forum they have a bounty going since mid October two find a way to reverse the KNOX counter and it's reached nearly $1200 and counting, yet not single person has been able to do it lmao. It's probably the most popular phone out right and has massive developer support behind it yet nobody can crack it even with a cool G on the line.
Regardless of the past, we need to get another bounty going for a full proof method because in the end it'll be the cheaper alternative.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2486346
If there is somebody who finds a way it shouldn't take so much time until this device will get a trick by that person or another who ports that trick. Both devices are similar as fas as I know, aren't they?
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If there is somebody who finds a way it shouldn't take so much time until this device will get a trick by that person or another who ports that trick. Both devices are similar as fas as I know, aren't they?
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Note 3 has full proof root methods for all variations. Both kinds of custom recovery options, even for the international Note 3 that shares our CPU. Tons of Roms. And we're sitting here with nothing on all counts.
So, no.
Based on that, I would say it won't be easy.
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Note 3 has full proof root methods for all variations. Both kinds of custom recovery options...
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Custom recovery even for Verizon variant? I thought that hadn't been done yet.
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Custom recovery even for Verizon variant? I thought that hadn't been done yet.
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I dunno dude. I'm not too concerned with the Note 3, all I know is they have infinitely more stuff and it ain't making its way over here.
Nothing from the exynos variation which should be VERY similar is making its way here.
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Note 3 has full proof root methods for all variations. Both kinds of custom recovery options, even for the international Note 3 that shares our CPU. Tons of Roms. And we're sitting here with nothing on all counts.
So, no.
Based on that, I would say it won't be easy.
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At this moment the Note 3 has more stuff than the Note 10.1 2014, but that doesn't mean that our device won't have that stuff in nearly future. Now, the N3 is more popular than our.
I'm optimistic because the more progress on N3 means more progress for N10.1 2014 - I hope
For example, I won't do anything (even root) my device until KNOX has been bypassed (the hardware part). If it is bypassed on N3 devs for our device can port it somehow for us.
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At this moment the Note 3 has more stuff than the Note 10.1 2014, but that doesn't mean that our device won't have that stuff in nearly future. Now, the N3 is more popular than our.
I'm optimistic because the more progress on N3 means more progress for N10.1 2014 - I hope
For example, I won't do anything (even root) my device until KNOX has been bypassed (the hardware part). If it is bypassed on N3 devs for our device can port it somehow for us.
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You're right. We'll just have to wait and keep our fingers crossed.
Reversing the efuse is going to be tough and will likley take more knowledge than most developers have. Efuses are a *field-programmable gate array*(FPGA) technology. Reversing the efuse will require an electrical or computer engineer. I happen to be a graduate student in Electrical and Computer engineering and have done extensive work with FPGA technology. Without knowing the software side of things and how the tablet is causing the re-configuration of the transistors, undoing it once it is done might be impossible without the use of specific tools only Samsung has. Reversing the fuse is totally possible, and I'm sure Samsung has the hardware to reset it.
I'll run this by a few of my software folks and see what they think. It's funny.. As a technology buff, working in the upper echelon of technology, it's amazing to me that non of my friends or coworkers root their phones, or even know what root is... Its crazy
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Knock it Off Please
Ok folks, I closed the thread to give chances to back away from the keyboard for awhile (or back away from the bottle), and think about what you're going to post.
Yes, I cleaned out the thread of some really useless and derogatory comments.
True, there were some valid points, unfortunately, I, nor anyone else will take the time to edit them amongst all the useless e-peen garbage that was included in them.
So if your post was deleted, it was because you did a “Reply to”, and junk was in the “quoted part”.
Clearly some folks think it's ok to bypass the “swear” filters, unfortunately we mods will get notified eventually. So if 'ya think yer bein smart........
I'm not gonna “bring out the ban hammer” at this time, but I would advise “some” people, to be careful of what they post, and to have a little respect for each other. We all have devices, and all want to make them better than what they are. We also make mistakes, sometimes foolish (I myself have, so I know how it is). However, that doesn't mean to one should go off on a rampage and grill users who have.
So I will ask you folks try and be civil to each other, and not behave like “trolls”, and not to reply to trollish comments as it only adds fuel to the fire, as if I have to come back and do a “clean-up in aisle 6” again, the outcome won't be so pretty. Use the “report post” function, and be the end of it.
As with “bounty”, I can say generally a method is developed eventually, so no need for bounties, although sometimes they serve a purpose. But generally a method gets exploited eventually.
One should never be in a hurry to brick their device.
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Oh, and as far as "knox" you all might want to check with @Chainfire . I understand he knows more about it than anybody Seem to remember he came up with a method to re-set it on certain devices...... something to that effect..
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Oh, and as far as "knox" you all might want to check with @Chainfire . I understand he knows more about it than anybody Seem to remember he came up with a method to re-set it on certain devices...... something to that effect..
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Out of curiosity you a link for any info regarding any devices where this was reset? Personally don't care about Knox but I'm curious as hell as how it may have been done....And to what stopping from working on all devices as that's a decent motivation (the thousand plus bounty) to working on variants....although be almost that methodology be completely different between Snapdragon and Exynos chips....
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Out of curiosity you a link for any info regarding any devices where this was reset? Personally don't care about Knox but I'm curious as hell as how it may have been done....And to what stopping from working on all devices as that's a decent motivation (the thousand plus bounty) to working on variants....although be almost that methodology be completely different between Snapdragon and Exynos chips....
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If I am not mistaken, I came across it in the SGS III (international) forums. Seeing I am planning to upgrade to SGS III, I was checking root and development. Chainfire has CF Auto root, and also I remember seeing how they reset the knox counter (or bypassed it)
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If I am not mistaken, I came across it in the SGS III (international) forums. Seeing I am planning to upgrade to SGS III, I was checking root and development. Chainfire has CF Auto root, and also I remember seeing how they reset the knox counter (or bypassed it)
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I had the GS3 international version and I don't remember there ever being a knox efuse like the newer devices. It did have a flash counter and Jorrit(chainfire) did have a method to reset that (Unless later firmwares implemented knox after I got rid of the device which seems like ages ago)
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graffixnyc said:
I had the GS3 international version and I don't remember there ever being a knox efuse like the newer devices. It did have a flash counter and Jorrit(chainfire) did have a method to reset that (Unless later firmwares implemented knox after I got rid of the device which seems like ages ago)
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Yeah, you may be right. Perhaps it was the flash counter. Will see in another week when I get mine. (will be a giant step up from the original HTC Desire). Not to sure I'm keen on using Odin though Will feel like a n00b all over again!
However, recent "leaks" of firmware from Sammy have arrived "without" knox (according to recent Portal posts). Whether they incorporate it into the "official" releases remains to be seen though. One can only hope they've seen the errors of their ways and scrapped it.
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Hi guys,
I am sure you all know about geohot (http://iphonejtag.blogspot.com/)
I am sure we there was a reliable/safe way to go back to S=ON and a locked bootloader state + warranty, the modding community and thus, the Android community indirectly, would expand like never before. That's one of the reasons behind the huge ass success of the iPhone jailbreak community. Infact, we have got it relatively easy when we compare it to the amount of work it takes them (with every iPhone OS release) to defeat's Apple protection and 'JB' the devise. Since all it takes is a restore to stock F/W to erase all signs of any 'software' jailbreak, they do not loose 'hardware' warranty by just running a custom program on the phone.
I have contacted George over email and requested him to look at the problem we are facing. He has agreed to look into it if we can give him a Nexus One. I mean, a collective $530 is a very small price to pay when it comes to restoring hardware warranty to a army of phones which were only rooted to install more capable programs
What do you guys think? Should we collect donations and send a phone over to George Hotz? There is no guarantee that we will get a solution... but if anyone can approach it from a hardware perspective... it is him.
Do let me know your thoughts... (and please don't mind the various grammatical mistakes... I just woke up and saw Geohot's email... hence posted this asap.)
Regards,
KiD0M4N
I dont think this is a good idea. Geohot is a great iphone dev but he has no experience whatsoever on android or HTC bootloaders. There are much better devs for this type of work.
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I dont think this is a good idea. Geohot is a great iphone dev but he has no experience whatsoever on android or HTC bootloaders. There are much better devs for this type of work.
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Just give it some time bro. I bet you someone will find a way. If there is an option to unlock your bootloader through a ui, i dont think it will be THAT hard to manipulate that to relock your bootloader. I mean, there are devs like NCommander that have tackled much harder projects such as reverse engineering the eclair camera drivers for the G1/MT3G.
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I dont think this is a good idea. Geohot is a great iphone dev but he has no experience whatsoever on android or HTC bootloaders. There are much better devs for this type of work.
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Well that guy is also responsible for the virgin iPhone unlock(from OS 1.0 days.) But care to suggest some other names?
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Just give it some time bro. I bet you someone will find a way. If there is an option to unlock your bootloader through a ui, i dont think it will be THAT hard to manipulate that to relock your bootloader. I mean, there are devs like NCommander that have tackled much harder projects such as reverse engineering the eclair camera drivers for the G1/MT3G.
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I am all for giving it time, we need to do something to get the attention of them brainies.
Its kinda sad though... HTC did a wonderful job making it easy to root the devise, but them fugged it all up by a all or nothing warranty statement. It would be fine if they would apply it for obvious mis use cases, but such a blanket statement only hurts the community.
And honestly speaking, it it wasn't for the XDA community, i would not have even thought of getting the Nexus One.
i think if geohot gets an android device he would probably be able to help us re-lock the boot loader, and maybe even more things we did not know about android.
we are a week into the life of the nexus one and you already want to pay for outside help?
give it time... we had the thing rooted before it even came out for christ sakes...
Hy i'm a little scared, i don't see a lot of dev on this tablet.
Is there a problem?
I don't think a solution go the Knox trip has emerged so not many want to void their warranty for root ability
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Hy i'm a little scared, i don't see a lot of dev on this tablet.
Is there a problem?
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A) It's expensive. B) It's sold in low volumes. C) 10" tablets aren't the sweet spot for Android tablets, 7-8" are. D) It's even worse for 3G/LTE tablets of all types and sizes. E) There will be tumbleweeds in the Pro forums because the 12" is a niche product and the 10" is overpriced; especially compared to the N10.1-14.
Samsung sold 60M SGS4's and 40M N3's in 2013. They'll be lucky to sell 10M Pro's and Note's across all sizes combined. Devs are attracted to popular high-volume devices. We don't have a popular high-volume device.
P.S. - @scrosler is dev-ing for the P600 which is quite a coup.
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A) It's expensive. B) It's sold in low volumes. C) 10" tablets aren't the sweet spot for Android tablets, 7-8" are. D) It's even worse for 3G/LTE tablets of all types and sizes. E) There will be tumbleweeds in the Pro forums because the 12" is a niche product and the 10" is overpriced; especially compared to the N10.1-14.
Samsung sold 60M SGS4's and 40M N3's in 2013. They'll be lucky to sell 10M Pro's and Note's across all sizes combined. Devs are attracted to popular high-volume devices. We don't have a popular high-volume device.
P.S. - @scrosler is dev-ing for the P600 which is quite a coup.
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The original note10 was a niche device too, but it had a fair amount of development done for it. The main issue is that there is no root available for the 600 version, that doesnt trip knox, and there is no incentive for someone to make such a root cos the bounty for it was already taken... even though the root wasnt ever actually completed.
Fingers crossed something will come up during all the note-pro development that will be usable across all the exynos devices. Though I'm getting a lot of good usage out of it anyway without root, and I'm in the UK and we are still stuck on the old old MJ6 rom, so kit-kat (when it turns up) will be a decent upgrade as it is.
If you require a lot of rooting and messing around with roms, I believe the snapdragon version is pretty much your only choice. Unfortunately it seems to be... significantly more expensive, and hard to get hold of, at least where I am.
I actually would recommend just getting the exynos one and just waiting, or root and forget about knox. Unless you really really need 4G for some reason.
I may have gone off topic with this. I'm tired. Need food.
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Hy i'm a little scared, i don't see a lot of dev on this tablet.
Is there a problem?
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The problem for me is: development for what? I have CleanRom on it and dont have any point which can be improved by a CustomRom. But the time is changing, scrosler sell his note and the next update will come. So, I will try to be prepared and make my own ROM and when it is good enough, I will publish it here.
So, all this is only a matter of need (and knox really didn't count for a developer). So, when someone here missing something, why not doing it? This is not a supermarkt here but a developer community and you will get here all help you need.
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The original note10 was a niche device too,
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How many Android tablets were there when the OG G-Tab was released? Three or four? And they were all 10" and powered by the same Teg2 SoC. So devs (who are typically early adopters) were spread out across fewer devices. There are dozens of Android tablets now and a couple of them are Nexi which are favorites of developers. The N10.1-12 had decent dev support but not like the OG G-Tab (I owned both). And the 3G and LTE versions had very little dev support.
The main issue is that there is no root available for the 600 version, that doesnt trip knox, and there is no incentive for someone to make such a root cos the bounty for it was already taken... even though the root wasnt ever actually completed.*
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I don't think a solution go the Knox trip has emerged so not many want to void their warranty for root ability
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I agree KNOX has made a subset of folks who may have rooted previously hesitant but that's not the only reason people are staying stock. Today's h/w and s/w has become so much more powerful the need to root has kind of become less important. I used to root and ROM my head off because it was almost necessary to get decent performance. There's still some benefit but it's not nearly as pronounced as it used to be. Factor in potential warranty issues and DRM problems and the risk/reward becomes questionable. The last device I rooted was my N2 because my N3 and N10.1-14 are fine (for me) stock. If you look at the general sections of popular devices on XDA there's a lot more threads about new stock updates and questions about functionality then there are about modding. And to everyone's point, KNOX sure hasn't helped.
All just my opinion of course.
Im a little upset too. I use to have a galaxy tab and used cyanogenmod since the very first days. But the old Texas instruments dual core core was slugshing in the last android iterations. So I switched to galaxy note 10.1 2014 and there's no cyanogenmod for it. Is there any u official build for it ?
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The problem for me is: development for what? I have CleanRom on it and dont have any point which can be improved by a CustomRom. But the time is changing, scrosler sell his note and the next update will come. So, I will try to be prepared and make my own ROM and when it is good enough, I will publish it here.
So, all this is only a matter of need (and knox really didn't count for a developer). So, when someone here missing something, why not doing it? This is not a supermarkt here but a developer community and you will get here all help you need.
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Im also thinking about deving a rom. Im going to the 12.2 (better for my needs) and I'm starting to read up on rom development. May talk to scrosler and try to make something similar to clean rom
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Give it some time i used to have the transformer prime tf201 and it felt like 5 people were active in the xda forums for that device :laugh:
And even the tf201 got some amazing custom ROMs in the end (androwook! ). I think everyone is waiting for a new base (4.4) atm.
And regarding cyanogen mod, those Roms are usually not so popular on samsung note devices because they don't have s - pen support. I personally am very happy with the improved and tweaked stock Roms we have. They are perfect for this particular device. That said, It's always nice to have options.
The device is still fairly new. Give it some time.
I need to be able to add ANY app to the multi-window list, but as far as I can see it can only be done with a rooted device. The fact that you basically void your warranty once rooted is putting me off big time from buying one.
Looks like I'll be sticking with my Note 8.0 for a bit longer...
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I need to be able to add ANY app to the multi-window list, but as far as I can see it can only be done with a rooted device. The fact that you basically void your warranty once rooted is putting me off big time from buying one.
Looks like I'll be sticking with my Note 8.0 for a bit longer...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655818
Might have missed that. Doesn't work with every app in my experience and sometimes it's prone to crashing, but it does work for whatever it can do.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655818
Might have missed that. Doesn't work with every app in my experience and sometimes it's prone to crashing, but it does work for whatever it can do.
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I'll have to look into that. Still no guarantee that the apps I want to use in multi window well work ok... Mmm
I'll be all over 4.4! I'll be making a rom and kernel for p600 and p601. I don't have much experience in building but squeezing every last ounce of speed out of devices now that's my strong point.
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Damn
I just got a 10.1 2014 tab...32gb from walmart...
better off returning it and waiting on a nexus 10'?
I would have gotten a 7" or 8" tab but I got a note 3...not worth it...
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A) It's expensive. B) It's sold in low volumes. C) 10" tablets aren't the sweet spot for Android tablets, 7-8" are. D) It's even worse for 3G/LTE tablets of all types and sizes. .
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Sorry, those excuses don't fly. The same excuses exist for the original Tab 10.1 yet there are many ROMs available. In fact, there are still active ROM developers for the original Tab.
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Sorry, those excuses don't fly. The same excuses exist for the original Tab 10.1 yet there are many ROMs available. In fact, there are still active ROM developers for the original Tab.
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They have to fly because it is what is happening. People donated to get Scrosler a Note 2014 and he has sold it. Knox has scared off most development also. I am happy with it running stock rooted.
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I agree that the issue is mainly due to Knox but also down to the cost of the tablet.
I have rooted every Android device I've had (and I've had a few) until the Note 10.1 2014. I don't care about not being able to install a 3rd party ROM but I very much care about root as some of my favourite apps (e.g. Sixaxis Controller, Titanium Backup) require root to work.
If the new N10 had been out at Christmas I would have bought that but it wasn't (although at this rate it never will be).
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I just got a 10.1 2014 tab...32gb from walmart...
better off returning it and waiting on a nexus 10'?
I would have gotten a 7" or 8" tab but I got a note 3...not worth it...
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Do you know how long people have been "waiting" for the new Nexus 10? Like, 8 months.
We need to get a tab for beanstown, He has an 'AOSP" like rom, but with touchwiz features left in place. I can get a like new tab for about $350 shipped. Thoughts???
I would like to have an idea of the dev support the phone will get. The s4 was a let down for me development wise, so it would be great to know which devs and how many will own the device. Wanam and AndreiLux won't get the s5 The M8 already got a good support.
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I would like to have an idea of the dev support the phone will get. The s4 was a let down for me development wise, so it would be great to know which devs and how many will own the device. Wanam and AndreiLux won't get the s5 The M8 already got a good support.
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Yeh I hope this phone has good support, the GS2 was incredible and still being played with on the forums, I've had an i777 past few years and it had ridiculous support and still does (pry would have stuck with it for now and see what happens over the next year but I dropped it in ocean other day and rice sure as heck didn't save it lol). Have an early S4 too that wife has and it was rooted and rom'd, then all the firmware and updates happened and that's when Dev support almost died on that phone. I actually thought of getting an S4 for my upgrade instead but since it'd be from AT&T it would be on the current bang your head through a wall firmware/baseband.
I seriously hope the S5 is able to root and have rom support, and not the cluster f' the S4 is now but I doubt it considering Sammy made Knox etc even more complicated now.
Yea with Knox and all I just don't see much support, the s4 is just dead especially on the kernels side , I already preordered mine but now I'm not sure if I wanna keep it or cancel. The m8 is just a boring sexy phone (if you read the forums everyone is so scared they already put it in cases) so there's no other alternative atm
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Yea with Knox and all I just don't see much support, the s4 is just dead especially on the kernels side , I already preordered mine but now I'm not sure if I wanna keep it or cancel. The m8 is just a boring sexy phone (if you read the forums everyone is so scared they already put it in cases) so there's no other alternative atm
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That's my problem, need a phone now as my i777 took a swim after being so careful with it for 2 1/2 years. But there's like nothing out there, I can get a refurbed S4 through AT&T for free on my upgrade but it'll have the current baseband/firmware so screwed there, I can get an M8 which is unlockable but has a crap camera (looks fine on phone, not so when you upload pics or use on desktop), or the S5 where your just perma screwed being locked and knox. There's nothing else, and can't wait as need a phone now. Sucks, so much for the days of Android being open. I'm seriously considering going back to Apple as much as I dread that as at least you can still jailbreak and not deal with all the headaches of rooting and flashing now (thats if you can), not like the i777 days where it was a breeze.
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Yea with Knox and all I just don't see much support, the s4 is just dead especially on the kernels side , I already preordered mine but now I'm not sure if I wanna keep it or cancel. The m8 is just a boring sexy phone (if you read the forums everyone is so scared they already put it in cases) so there's no other alternative atm
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Dead? ROMs: Omega, Wanam, Echoe, Bobcat...
Kernels: KT, Adam, Faux, Alucard, Talexop...
I guess you're one more who doesn't have an idea of what Knox is, and then talks BS.
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Dead? ROMs: Omega, Wanam, Echoe, Bobcat...
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I guess you're one more who doesn't have an idea of what Knox is, and then talks BS.
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I don't think he meant dead as in "dead" you can still play around just a huge headache, i got lucky and have an early model S4 for wife, I think he meant Dev work and support/updates once they started changing firmware/baseband that made it too much of a hassle for Devs to deal with. With the S5 being even more strict and encrypted from whats said so far of updated Knox, at least with U.S. Carriers, makes me feel like there will be very little support. Some known Devs have already said their not going to bother with the S5 or at least U.S. variants
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I don't think he meant dead as in "dead" you can still play around just a huge headache, i got lucky and have an early model S4 for wife, I think he meant Dev work and support/updates once they started changing firmware/baseband that made it too much of a hassle for Devs to deal with. With the S5 being even more strict and encrypted from whats said so far of updated Knox, at least with U.S. Carriers, makes me feel like there will be very little support. Some known Devs have already said their not going to bother with the S5 or at least U.S. variants
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Well, there's a world outside the US.
Just don't buy the international version (or more specifically third-world international version) if you're worried about this. The S4 was relatively lucky that I single-handedly did everything from scratch kernel side, else you'd be more disappointed.
Still don't see why anybody from the S4 gen would warrant buying the S5 or M8 when they'll be bashed by the end of summer.
I wouldn't have bothered with the S5 if it wasn't for the deal I got from O2.
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I also hope for great dev support. Although I have tried to learn how to build ROMS many times and still haven't got an idea how to really. I will be more than willing to help any dev.
Getting the S5 on release date hopefully!
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Dead? ROMs: Omega, Wanam, Echoe, Bobcat...
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I know what Knox is and I was talking about the exynos variant, as Wanam left for the snapdragon version then he said the next phone is htc m8. I could care less about warranty I have been using smartphones since the beginning and I have never used the warranty. So yeah, if we end up with 3 devs that's "dead support to me"
Andreilux I know that by q3 more powerful phones will be on the market but my s4 is driving me crazy with sudden battery drains and wifi wakelocks, I just wanna get rid of if. And yes I'm thankful for your work since I used it on s3 n2 and s4
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I know what Knox is and I was talking about the exynos variant, as Wanam left for the snapdragon version then he said the next phone is htc m8. I could care less about warranty I have been using smartphones since the beginning and I have never used the warranty. So yeah, if we end up with 3 devs that's "dead support to me"
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I'm thinking of creating ROMs (at last!). I'm certainly buying the S5 and dev'ing for it.
The S5 won't see a massive amount of non-stock roms, and certainly less than the Snapdragon S4. But there will be some with the architecture being open source unlike Somsung's Exynos. Also, there will be a lot of roms based on stock.
To be honest, I'm probably going to be happy sticking with stock anyway as certain features will be lost as soon as Samsung's framework is taken out of the equation (fingerprint recognition being the main one).
What I would really love to see more than anything else is an exploit-based root solution that doesn't trip the knox flag. But I believe the Note 3 4.4.2 roms still haven't had that so I'm not holding my breath for the S5. I'm still deciding if I should leave my phone unrooted when I get it on Friday or just bite the bullet and trip the flag the CF Auto Root. The idea of not being able to use Viper4Android isn't one that appeals.
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Still don't see why anybody from the S4 gen would warrant buying the S5 or M8 when they'll be bashed by the end of summer.
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I wonder, what do you mean. Are we expecting something amazing by the end of the summer?
My personal opinion is that it is not worth spending money at anything because next year everything will be bashed by something like this...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7925/...bit-socs-with-lte-category-67-support-in-2015
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The S5 won't see a massive amount of non-stock roms, and certainly less than the Snapdragon S4. But there will be some with the architecture being open source unlike Somsung's Exynos. Also, there will be a lot of roms based on stock.
To be honest, I'm probably going to be happy sticking with stock anyway as certain features will be lost as soon as Samsung's framework is taken out of the equation (fingerprint recognition being the main one).
What I would really love to see more than anything else is an exploit-based root solution that doesn't trip the knox flag. But I believe the Note 3 4.4.2 roms still haven't had that so I'm not holding my breath for the S5. I'm still deciding if I should leave my phone unrooted when I get it on Friday or just bite the bullet and trip the flag the CF Auto Root. The idea of not being able to use Viper4Android isn't one that appeals.
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I agree, Touchwhiz has gotten a lot better, and I just use GoLauncher Prime and DiCikonZ icon package so I can put up with no roms, but really want to see a solution to root w/o tripping knox. I hate bloat that comes on Sammy/AT&T phones. And I want my damn Tibu back that I paid for.
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The S5 won't see a massive amount of non-stock roms, and certainly less than the Snapdragon S4. But there will be some with the architecture being open source unlike Somsung's Exynos. Also, there will be a lot of roms based on stock.
To be honest, I'm probably going to be happy sticking with stock anyway as certain features will be lost as soon as Samsung's framework is taken out of the equation (fingerprint recognition being the main one).
What I would really love to see more than anything else is an exploit-based root solution that doesn't trip the knox flag. But I believe the Note 3 4.4.2 roms still haven't had that so I'm not holding my breath for the S5. I'm still deciding if I should leave my phone unrooted when I get it on Friday or just bite the bullet and trip the flag the CF Auto Root. The idea of not being able to use Viper4Android isn't one that appeals.
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Im in agreement with you on both points. I don't necessarily care about a custom ROM as much as I care about gaining root and getting rid of the bloatware. I am new to the Galaxy S world of things (my S5 arrives today!) so I am glad to know there is a potential early option although a non-preferable one that trips a no warranty flag. However as mentioned in someone elses reply I have never used a warranty option with a phone, but the one time I count on that I may be jinxing myself.
Looking forward to getting my hands on this phone today, and hopefully root not too far behind.
I'm not into Roms that's I emphasize on kernel devs, that's how you unlock the phones potential
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Dead? ROMs: Omega, Wanam, Echoe, Bobcat...
Kernels: KT, Adam, Faux, Alucard, Talexop...
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Agreed.
The people who cry are the ones who previously got away with rooting their device and keeping their warranty.
I am going to begin a bounty to all of our devs of $100 to whomever can get a working unlocked bootloader for the Verizon 4GLTE P605V Samsung Galaxy 10.1 2014 edition. It's complete nonsense that going as far back as far as April (the first post I found searching for this) that there isn't a solution.... If you own this tablet variant as well, please jump on board.
Most devs for the 10.1 2014 have moved to the pro version. So this may be really hard to get. if you look at the unlocked versions there is little to no support for them right now as well.
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All the Verizon/Samsung locked bootloaders have been unlockable to date as well as the AT&T varieties. Check the S4, Note 3 and S5 threads.
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All the Verizon/Samsung locked bootloaders have been unlockable to date as well as the AT&T varieties. Check the S4, Note 3 and S5 threads.
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I don't really care about the S4, my Note 3 is already unlocked, and could care less about the S5 as well. What I AM concerned with is getting my 10.1 2014 Verizon edition unlocked so I can actually get TWRP on it an put on custom ROM's. For a forum filled with lots of experts and geniuses, no one seems to want to take any time or make any effort. I am literally begging! Using any version of Odin has failed trying to get TWRP on my tablet. All the ROMs I have looked at say to install that as a prerequisite. So what is a guy to do? Should I just put a round from my .45 through it and call it a day? I am outside the 14 day return window now with Verizon, so unless someone can give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong, then I am royally screwed..........
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I don't really care about the S4, my Note 3 is already unlocked, and could care less about the S5 as well. What I AM concerned with is getting my 10.1 2014 Verizon edition unlocked so I can actually get TWRP on it an put on custom ROM's. For a forum filled with lots of experts and geniuses, no one seems to want to take any time or make any effort. I am literally begging! Using any version of Odin has failed trying to get TWRP on my tablet. All the ROMs I have looked at say to install that as a prerequisite. So what is a guy to do? Should I just put a round from my .45 through it and call it a day? I am outside the 14 day return window now with Verizon, so unless someone can give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong, then I am royally screwed..........
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You are missing the point. Bootloaders are not a simple security hack. They are the proprietary coding that allows the device to boot. There is NO decompiling, sorting through code, figuring out the lock and then unlocking it. There needs to be an exploit to get in and change it. Which means there is a 99% chance the wrong exploit attempt will brick the device...an not the "brick" all these people talk about mistakenly on this site...a REAL brick...dead paperweight. Think that it is an issue with this sites "geniuses" not wanting to do it? Maybe you would understand better if you blindfolded yourself and tried to assemble a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle....only you get an electric shock with every wrong piece you play.
I mentioned the other devices not to see if you "care"...it is to let you know the same method is employed to lock those as your tablet and they are just as popular with the "geniuses" that genuinely want to unlock the bootloader. AND have large bounties on them.
As to what are you supposed to do? Research next time. Buy products from a carrier that does not lock down their devices or buy a device that is not a commercial push to the military and corporate so that Verizon wants it locked down tight for more sales and contracts. Or continue to hold your breath throwing this tantrum you seem to be doing. Or...I don't know...use the tablet as it was designed to be used when sold and seems to work fine for the millions of customers who know nothing of XDA or rooting.
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You are missing the point. Bootloaders are not a simple security hack. They are the proprietary coding that allows the device to boot. There is NO decompiling, sorting through code, figuring out the lock and then unlocking it. There needs to be an exploit to get in and change it. Which means there is a 99% chance the wrong exploit attempt will brick the device...an not the "brick" all these people talk about mistakenly on this site...a REAL brick...dead paperweight. Think that it is an issue with this sites "geniuses" not wanting to do it? Maybe you would understand better if you blindfolded yourself and tried to assemble a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle....only you get an electric shock with every wrong piece you play.
I mentioned the other devices not to see if you "care"...it is to let you know the same method is employed to lock those as your tablet and they are just as popular with the "geniuses" that genuinely want to unlock the bootloader. AND have large bounties on them.
As to what are you supposed to do? Research next time. Buy products from a carrier that does not lock down their devices or buy a device that is not a commercial push to the military and corporate so that Verizon wants it locked down tight for more sales and contracts. Or continue to hold your breath throwing this tantrum you seem to be doing. Or...I don't know...use the tablet as it was designed to be used when sold and seems to work fine for the millions of customers who know nothing of XDA or rooting.
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I would have to say that in reading text, it is generally hard to understand the tone of the text. While I wasn't throwing a tantrum, the tone of your reply is pretty unmistakable. When someone comes here genuinely looking for help and assistance with a device, is it a general practice to publicly belittle and berate them? As to my bounty, I started off low to see if others would jump on board or not. As to my carrier, I have been with Verizon from day one, get a rather large corporate discount from them on devices and accessories, and have 6 lines through them, so why just to get this tablet to do what I want it to, would I change carriers? Every device that I have had in the 'smart'phone era has been Verizon, and someone has found a way to unlock them. So I apologize if I came of looking like a prick, as that was not at all my intention. I would gladly personally pay up to $100.00 if someone could help. It is very frustrating to only be able to do half of what I want to achieve with my tablet. I'm as far as I personally can go on it. If anyone was offended by my wording, again, I am sorry for that. BTW, I changed the avatar that was only taken offense to after my post. Have a happy Sunday Funday! I know I will as I am already on bloody Mary number 4 here.
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I would have to say that in reading text, it is generally hard to understand the tone of the text. While I wasnt throwing a tantrum, the tone of your reply is pretty unmistakable. When someone comes here genuinely looking for help and assistance with a device, is it a general practice to publicly belittle and berate them? As to my bounty, I started off low to see if others would jump on board or not. As to my carrier, I have been with Verizon from day one, get a rather large corporate discount from them on devices and accessories, and have 6 lines through them, so why just to get this tablet to do what I want it to, would I change carriers? Every device that I have had in the smartphone era has been Verizon, and someone has found a way to unlock them. So I apologize if I came of looking like a prick, as that was not at all my intention. I would gladly personally pay up to $100.00 if someone could help. It is very frustrating to only be able to do half of what I want to achieve with my tablet. Im as far as I personally can go on it. If anyone was offended by my wording, again, I am sorry for that. BTW, I changed the avatar that was only taken offense to after my post. Have a happy Sunday Funday! I know I will as I am already on bloody Mary number 4 here.
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Your phrase that asks if you should put a bullet into your tablet certainly sounded like a bit of a tantrum. Sorry if I somehow misconstrued that. Then also sounding like you were belittling XDA developers because they did not unlock the bootloader yet.. Sounded a bit entitled. There are devices years old that have never been unlocked. I have done my best to explain why there should never be a time limit or expectations of the bootloader ever being unlocked yet you also shot that down as selfishly exclaiming you did not care about those examples and were only concerned about what matters to you. Did I leave anything out? Sorry if I somehow misinterpreted any of that. Sounds like you need to start making a decision as to what is more important to you, your corporate discount or an unlocked bootloader. Have your bounty but I already explained older Verizon devices with the same locked bootloaders has stumped the security geniuses so far.
$100
$100.00
$150.00?
The devs were never really all that involved with this tablet. It is highly unlikely they will unlock the Verizon version unless they figure out the other Samsung products. Even if they would unlock the tablet you my not get any devs that are willing to port their Roms over to the Verizon version.
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Ok, I give up
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Ok, I give up
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Say my friend..don't give up There are to many smart people at this forum... (and other forums) Trust me just have to be patient lol.. I am in the same boat some one will figure this out..
OK, I have a SM-P605v with a broken LCD (not the screen itself, but the display is discolored and not displaying correctly). It was previously Rooted and I have gotten screen emulators working when hooked up to my laptop. I would be willing to donate this to any Dev willing to work on the exploit. If there is a risk of bricking the device, then rest assured it's no biggie since the screen is bad on it. Please PM me if you are interested.
It's been a while now, anyone figure it out yet?....................................................
Has anyone tried the unlock script for the note 3 and note 4?
Here is the link to note 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/official-note-3-verizon-bootloader-t3359370
I just got a SM-P605 that is unlocked. Once I figure out where the kernal came from perhaps I can be of help here. I really want to get this thing rooted and connected with my carrier. I had had a SM-P600, but it was smashed and could not be repaired. That's why I bought this tablet. Otherwise this P605 is totally stock and runs like a very well behaved powerhouse should.
Rob
i looked at this page it says u need root to use this .
Nappyloxs said:
Has anyone tried the unlock script for the note 3 and note 4?
Here is the link to note 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/official-note-3-verizon-bootloader-t3359370
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but dont you need a unlocked bootloader to get root ?
No you don't need unlocked bootloader to root. I think I used towel root years ago to root this tablet.
Link200 said:
The devs were never really all that involved with this tablet. It is highly unlikely they will unlock the Verizon version unless they figure out the other Samsung products. Even if they would unlock the tablet you my not get any devs that are willing to port their Roms over to the Verizon version.
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You know I really loved my SM-P600, but it was badly damaged and I don't know how or where to order in the left speaker, on/off switch from. So got really frustrated advanced ordered an SM-P605v instead and was able to get one that has an unlocked boatloader. I've not rooted it yet, or mounted TWRP on it. I may not root it though I'd like to. Even so, I'm looking into it and while, though I'm extremely happy with it,I may eventually root it.
I've explored a lot of options so far and none of them, so far, work for an SM-P605v running Android 5.1.1.
I'll get back with you about a week from now.
By the way, this tablet, and the SGN Pro are still much more powerful and capable than the Surface Pro or IPad Pro. This, even though they are getting a little older.
By the way,I spoke to a friend of mine who owns the large IPad Pro today. Apple hasn't optimised the Home screen yet, even after all these months. You'd think they'd have done better by their consumer base by now.
Even so, I'm so pleased with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1(2014), both with the SM-P600, and the SM-P605. Unless Samsung releases a Tab A that has an S Pen and 32 gigs memory, or releases a substantial upgrade to the SM-P600,SM-P605, and SM-P607, or puts out a new SGN in the series with 64 our 128gigs internal, I'm not open to trading my tablet in. It'll be over my cold, dead body.
This whole thing just died from no interest other than from me, huh?
I know that eventually one dev with have the time to root and possibly find a way to unlock the bootloader. I am starting this pot for the dev/s that can pull this off and maybe even get us some TWRP for ROMing.
I'll put down:
$25 for working root
$45 for a unlocked bootloader
And $100 for root, bootloader and TWRP
I do this for because I can't and to motive development.
good luck
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If no one has figured out how to unlock the S7 by now then this one isn't getting unlocked either.......
SBERG117 said:
If no one has figured out how to unlock the S7 by now then this one isn't getting unlocked either.......
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That's not at all true. Sometimes ways are found.
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That's not at all true. Sometimes ways are found.
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There has been nothing to show that anyone is remotely close to unlocking the bootloader. Yes... anything is possible but this has been going on for a long while now. The devs that work on stuff here are uber talented, no doubt. It just doesn't look good at this point...
These bounties are pointless now-a-days. Samsung KNOX has a bug bounty program, they also work with Bug Crowd and HackerOne. Each of these programs offer some nice size payouts to people who find vulnerabilities in Samsung Products. Bootloader exploits would be a rather huge payout, because Samsung doesn't want people messing with the chance to make money on Samsung Pay. So IF there ever is a bootloader unlock discovered, pray said hacker does not go the way of the coin and still favors the open source community. Samsung is no ones fool, they'd gladly pay out a few $100,000 to some random dude in Russia than to loose out on secure devices that investors know has no current exploit for unlocking.
Or, I could be full of it, and we get our bootloaders unlocked tonight! While the porn star of our dreams gets cured of anything that AJAX can't get rid of, gives us the best night of our collective lives and.... the hot pocket we pull out of the microwave does not burn our mouths or have a frozen center. (here's hoping)
Love the positivity at the end but you are partially right. Money is what usually drives things now and maybe for developers as well seeing as this is a hobby more than a job, but I have seen some developers dedicated to this line of work (ie the M7SPR forums where they are on nougat on a 2013 device).
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These bounties are pointless now-a-days. Samsung KNOX has a bug bounty program, they also work with Bug Crowd and HackerOne. Each of these programs offer some nice size payouts to people who find vulnerabilities in Samsung Products. Bootloader exploits would be a rather huge payout, because Samsung doesn't want people messing with the chance to make money on Samsung Pay. So IF there ever is a bootloader unlock discovered, pray said hacker does not go the way of the coin and still favors the open source community. Samsung is no ones fool, they'd gladly pay out a few $100,000 to some random dude in Russia than to loose out on secure devices that investors know has no current exploit for unlocking.
Or, I could be full of it, and we get our bootloaders unlocked tonight! While the porn star of our dreams gets cured of anything that AJAX can't get rid of, gives us the best night of our collective lives and.... the hot pocket we pull out of the microwave does not burn our mouths or have a frozen center. (here's hoping)
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Interesting info. Thanks.
I only got the S8+ because I got tired of LG being so behind on technology and innovation. LG has usually always been rootable.
Hopefully the Pixel 2 will be better than this S8+ and be carried on T-Mobile. Pretty sure the few last remaining devs with superior skills on XDA will focus on that device.
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And sometimes not...
S7 is over a year old and hows that progressing for an unlock?
Security gets harder to work around each year..the days of things like safestrap and Loki are over
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And sometimes not...
S7 is over a year old and hows that progressing for an unlock?
Security gets harder to work around each year..the days of things like safestrap and Loki are over
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It's a matter of demand. The iPhone gets jail broken every time. The exynos version don't have to deal with this and have root and unlocked bl. That causes the need to be diminished. It's software and it can be cracked. It's a matter of getting the attention of people with the extreme skills to do it. I'm sure jcase and company could do it. But it is alot if work and they don't need the headache, understandable. But maybe since this phone sales are way higher than the S7 we might get it this time around. Coupled with the fact that every update breaks the process , if there is one. Who wants to deal with that?
No software security is foolproof, it just isn't. That doesn't mean someone will find the way. But it certainly is possible
My prediction, having seen how things are since the days of gakaxy note 1, is that 1) there will be no unlocking of the bootloader 2) an engineering kernel will leak soon which will allow rooting (like it happened for s7).
With all the flexibility worked into these newer phones reasons for rooting have become much fewer. I rooted my s7 when the rootable kernel became available but the kernel was buggy and needed a lot of tweaking, and some of my apps didn't work well with the root so I reverted. Honestly the phone ran so smoothly on the stock rom that I never missed root.
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I know that eventually one dev with have the time to root and possibly find a way to unlock the bootloader. I am starting this pot for the dev/s that can pull this off and maybe even get us some TWRP for ROMing.
I'll put down:
$25 for working root
$45 for a unlocked bootloader
And $100 for root, bootloader and TWRP
I do this for because I can't and to motive development.
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why would you mirror what's already being done?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/bounty-thread-snapdragon-usa-variants-t3598271
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why would you mirror what's already being done?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/bounty-thread-snapdragon-usa-variants-t3598271
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Hey thanks for the links but check your dates on when posts are made. This post was made 04/25/2017 and the linked post was made 04/29/2017. I don't care which post gets followed as long as someone can help the forum. Not trying to be an @$$ but always study sources before posting.
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Hey thanks for the links but check your dates on when posts are made. This post was made 04/25/2017 and the linked post was made 04/29/2017. I don't care which post gets followed as long as someone can help the forum. Not trying to be an @$$ but always study sources before posting.
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Post dates are like instruction manuals - I ignore them
These carrier sub-forums get little traffic. If you had posted this to the Main S8+ page, you would have been golden