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Hello,
Seems like Google's busy again huh?
Notable new features:
-Google Now enhanced
-Google Play enhanced
-Stock Video Player updated
-Project Road Runner to increase your battery life 3 folds
-and more!
Hopefully these improvements do not require any help from Samsung? Gawd if a new hwcomposer is needed etc then we will be out of luck since Samsung probably will ditch us after 4.1...
Let's hear your thoughts.
Source: http://androidandme.com/2012/10/new...ore-customization-center-enhanced-google-now/
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Sounds interesting. I can understand Project Roadrunner being legit. Android 4.1 is as smooth as a baby's arse, so improving the battery is understandable. If everything else is true, KLP is going to be amazing.
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okmijnlp said:
Sounds interesting. I can understand Project Roadrunner being legit. Android 4.1 is as smooth as a baby's arse, so improving the battery is understandable. If everything else is true, KLP is going to be amazing.
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Rumours originated from a very accountable source that has been correct in predicting what Google will come out with in every android version so I guess this one is legit?
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MarioFan1998 said:
Let's hear your thoughts.
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This is the I9100 forum, spam somewhere else.
I find it hard to believe that road runner will be implemented to every device that gets the update. Nexus devices most certainly (they get everything) but I think the development to bring that to every device that's able to receive KLP will be too great and time consuming.
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Samsung will not ditch us after Android 4.1 .
anshmiester78900 said:
Samsung will not ditch us after Android 4.1 .
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We hope....
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oinkylicious said:
This is the I9100 forum, spam somewhere else.
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Lol but in fact this is on topic as this is a discussion whether Samsung will ditch us and whether it is possible for KLP to be ported to our phones. :banghead:
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MarioFan1998 said:
Lol but in fact this is on topic as this is a discussion whether Samsung will ditch us and whether it is possible for KLP to be ported to our phones. :banghead:
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It is very possible it could be ported but if it is and there's no official release from Samsung for the i9100 its going to be very hard for the devs to pull apart the sources from another device, (say the i9300) and try to merge it together for ours. Most likely miss alot of key features. Like with JB devs cannot manage to get butter working, and their only hope is when JB is officially released, but even then there's rumours going around that the s3 won't even have a properly working project butter.
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It is very possible it could be ported but if it is and there's no official release from Samsung for the i9100 its going to be very hard for the devs to pull apart the sources from another device, (say the i9300) and try to merge it together for ours. Most likely miss alot of key features. Like with JB devs cannot manage to get butter working, and their only hope is when JB is officially released, but even then there's rumours going around that the s3 won't even have a properly working project butter.
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You're right. I hope project road runner isn't affected by our exynos...
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It is very possible it could be ported but if it is and there's no official release from Samsung for the i9100 its going to be very hard for the devs to pull apart the sources from another device, (say the i9300) and try to merge it together for ours. Most likely miss alot of key features. Like with JB devs cannot manage to get butter working, and their only hope is when JB is officially released, but even then there's rumours going around that the s3 won't even have a properly working project butter.
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Butter is not working great on S3 also
I posted about.key lime pie last month. and my thread was closed.. yes until we have a rom based key lime we r not supposed discuss abt it here..
The LG Optimus Nexus will be a monster of a phone with that quad core Krait. There really isn't much reason to buy any other phone for the foreseeable future, unless you want a 13MP camera which the Xperia T ably provides.
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Logi_Ca1 said:
The LG Optimus Nexus will be a monster of a phone with that quad core Krait. There really isn't much reason to buy any other phone for the foreseeable future, unless you want a 13MP camera which the Xperia T ably provides.
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I don't think the majority of flash addicted people on xda will worry to much about the camera quality, but more about the power, support and development that all nexus phones bring.
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I don't think the majority of flash addicted people on xda will worry to much about the camera quality, but more about the power, support and development that all nexus phones bring.
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Precisely my point. If the LG is the only Nexus device released this time round (rumors point to 4 other devices by other brands), I can see XDAers gobbling up the LG Optimus Nexus.
The choice is much easier this time around, unlike the Galaxy Nexus which wasn't that much better spec wise than its contemporaries.
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Precisely my point. If the LG is the only Nexus device released this time round (rumors point to 4 other devices by other brands), I can see XDAers gobbling up the LG Optimus Nexus.
The choice is much easier this time around, unlike the Galaxy Nexus which wasn't that much better spec wise than its contemporaries.
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Wouldn't there be a new galaxy nexus soon? I heard its much better. It might come with android 4.2...???
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If project roadrunner is all about the efficiency of the usage of the soc, then it might not work on exynos devices too.
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MarioFan1998 said:
Wouldn't there be a new galaxy nexus soon? I heard its much better. It might come with android 4.2...???
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There's rumors of it as well, but personally at this current point in time I feel that the rumors for the LG Optimus Nexus are more "concrete",if that's the word for it.
Androidauthority has a write up on it:
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-nexus-2-plus-gt-i9260-here-what-we-know-118932/
The specs don't look encouraging. It seems to be only a slight upgrade over the old i9250, and is packing a dual-core A9 CPU.
Now, I realize that not everyone goes for specs, but I'm a specs guy and the Optimus Nexus is the most exciting phone for me in quite a while. :fingers-crossed:
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If project roadrunner is all about the efficiency of the usage of the soc, then it might not work on exynos devices too.
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AFAIK, nobody knows how exactly it's supposed to work right? Maybe it's a rework of the software internals? If I have to guess, maybe it's a radical rewrite of the Dalvik VM to make it much more efficient, or aggressive optimization of Android OS itself.
There will be multiple nexus phones. Don't you guys read the latest news? The nexus program will see huge changes.
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Hello guys.
I saw on the front page that someone had ported Jellybean to the X2. My question is, do you think some talented developer could port JB to the original X? JB on the X would be amazing and it doesn't seem that hard to do considering its already on the X2! I know they have different CPUs and GPUs, but would it be that hard to do?
Thanks,
wws12
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C'mon guys, this would be awesome!
xx13thangelxx commented about this on RootzWiki. He said he owns both devices, and a simple port wouldn't work. Hardware is way different. DX is single core omap, while DX2 is dual tegra2, a simple port just won't work. If someone were to get it up and running on a Droid 2, which has the same hardware basically as the DX, a port would be feasible.
Ah but they have! It's for the Milestone 2 which is the GSM version of the D2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827801
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Since there is a build for the d2, any chance this will come to fruition?
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Hope this hasn't been completely abandoned...
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wws12 said:
Hope this hasn't been completely abandoned...
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Most new development and a lot of old development has ceased on the Droid X as many devs have moved on to bigger and better things (mostly shinier toys). Unfortunately I don't think our kernel can support a lot of the functions and to be honest, even if we came up with a 2nd Init JB for our DX, it would be even worse on battery life than the various ICS builds due to the fact that we cannot run custom kernels and the like to actually empower the hardware we have.
As far as JB goes, there's not a lot of real difference between it and ICS except a few different APIs and a bit of polishing as far as I'm aware, but again, we can't see the true benefit of these changes without a proper kernel and modules due to the locked down bootloaders forced upon us.
Unfortunately I'll also agree that most devs have moved on to other projects/devices. It's the nature of having to deal with a locked device and the fact that it's now been over 2 years since the DX was released. As a former DX owner, the SGS3 came out right as my contract was up so it made since to go to the next awesome thing.
I think p3droid and crew went to the bionic pretty early after it came out. I haven't really kept up with that bunch since they stopped releasing things for the DX. Also, cvcps is now the maintainer for the Cm10 builds of the SGS3.
When there was the big to do over the using of kexec to get around the kernel limitations I checked to see if someone would pick that up on the DX. Turns out that someone had, but the project was abandoned due to the difficulty of creating the various drivers needed. I had really hoped that the project would succeed so that my old DX would be useful into the future. However, it's now just a voip phone in my house.
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There are still a few devs out here keeping up the DX's development. Nightly builds of CM7 for the DX are still being released almost daily. I know Wizard0f0s will be releasing an updated verison of his MIUI build any day now. CM9 builds periodically also seem to be leaking out. I wouldnt' be surprised to see a CM10 port from the Droid 2's alpha build making its way to the DX in the next few months. Not all hope is lost Give it time.
I'm happy with Gummy 1.20. Really it's too bad they killed it. Best ROM for the DX imo.
JB now works on D2 so yes, there are plans to port that to the X.
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JB now works on D2 so yes, there are plans to port that to the X.
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When? Who is the developer that is doing it?
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Check over on droidxforums. I don't remember the exact name.of the guy but its the same one who got it working on the D2.
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Check over on droidxforums. I don't remember the exact name.of the guy but its the same one who got it working on the D2.
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Awesome. Can you provide a link?
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http://www.DroidXForums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=592394
Can the D2's CM10 be ported to the DX?
Start there. Don't have the exact link but should lead you where you need to go.
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Just started in android development and I think one day I'll try this
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GoClifGo05 said:
http://www.DroidXForums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=592394
Can the D2's CM10 be ported to the DX?
Start there. Don't have the exact link but should lead you where you need to go.
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I second this!
From what I understand, Droid 2 ROM's work well on the Droid X with minimal re-configuration.
So please, please help the many users who are still holding on to their beloved Droid X's!
I purchased a Droid X and a 3800mah battery (china-style, but works great, 2+ days of battery life) for a total of 68 bucks from ebay a few months ago, and now I have Page Plus for 30 dollars a month (this and other phones work with no modding on their network).
Porting this ROM to the X would make my "just-like-verizon-but-way-cheaper" experience complete! THANK YOU SO MUCH AHEAD OF TIME. I WILL DONATE!!!
Lol give it some time. Like I said the dev is planning to move it over.to the X.
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In the mean time gummy 1.20 has been updated to include HWA. It was tweeted out about a month ago by 13th angel.
I'm running it now and am very happy with the HWA upgrade. Battery life takes a bit of a hit but you can recover it with pimp my rom.
The Milestone 2 has received a JB port so it's now feasible to think that this could be installed on an DX. One problem though, the M2 is a GSM phone while the DX is a CDMA one. Is it easy to change it from wanting a GSM radio to using a CDMA one? Here's the link if anyone is interested.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827801&page=151
Not sure where to ask this or even who. I had an hd2 and loved the fact that I could run android on it. I switched to a Samsung infuse 4g when I left t-mo.
From my experiences the hd2 ran android (an operating system it wasn't designed for) flawlessly. The infuse devs have jelly bean going but with some bugs that they can't figure out.
My question is why? Is it the kernel (still a gingerbread kernel) or lack of source from Samsung? Just curious how a windows phone can run android better than a native android device.
And I'm not knocking the devs, I'm super lucky to even be off froyo at all. Just curious.
Thanks!
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Its the device itself. Though a windows phone, HD2 is very close to Desire and Nexus One. This made it that much easier for our awesome Devs to get Android working really well, along with some great skills and innovative thinking.
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What are you thoughts on this?
Of course 4.2 is newer and better, but is it actually better on our phone in the real world. I feel that gingerbread on this phone was the best an there really wasn't anything smoother or faster FOR THIS DEVICE.
Is there anyone still out there that stopped at the last 2.3 build of Oxygen or Peter Alfonso?
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Downloading Oxygen as I type this
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Could you link oxygen because the website is down now.
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pandaman21 said:
Could you link oxygen because the website is down now.
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http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/NexusS/roms/oxygen
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Running oxygen. No lag. I'm happy and staying on this until I upgrade.
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Odp: Jellybean vs Gingerbread
What about web browsing, still no lag there?
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I would say BB6
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What about web browsing, still no lag there?
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Good anti-troll, lol. Web browsing in GB was attrocious.
His signature has changed from iPhone to Nexus s 4g. Lol..
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According To Me JB Is Also Smooth. I Am Running JB It Works Great. No Lags Nothing. Big Games Like Modern Combat 4 & Dark Knight Rises Run Smoothly.
JB is not nearly laggy/buggy enough for me to go back to GB, the visual appeal is more than enough reason for me. Not to mention the features.
Gingerbread Rocks For Nexus S
Well i will go for the gingerbread because in GB i get better benchmark than JB!
me currently Using MIUI GB 2.3.7 by brainmaster! with cm7 kernel! :fingers-crossed:
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What are you thoughts on this?
Of course 4.2 is newer and better, but is it actually better on our phone in the real world. I feel that gingerbread on this phone was the best an there really wasn't anything smoother or faster FOR THIS DEVICE.
Is there anyone still out there that stopped at the last 2.3 build of Oxygen or Peter Alfonso?
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i don't agree with your statement that '4.2 is better' and that gb runs smoother or faster on this device only, i actually think that 2.3.x was the best android ever made and it all went downhill from there
show me one device where jb / ics works better than gb and i'll buy you a new car
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¿dpeeps74?
U need to distinguish between speed and fluidity. GB browser is really, really bad, menus are complicated and UI is unpolished on *every* device. JB is maybe tad slower, but it is better in every aspect except battery consumption wise...
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I tried that oxygen rom, and that even without gapps. I got to say, after jelly bean 4.1.2 gingerbread is too slow and too ugly to use it. I rather have little smoother UI and nice looking rom more up to date than old, slow, sluggish, ugly rom. Also gingerbread doesnt have hw acceleration. There you have it.
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Just because I can listen to music on a Sony CD Walkman just as well as a MP3 player doesn't mean I should.
It worked just fine but it is older, clunkier and not as well developed as the player today. Tech moves forward, so should we.
Nuff said :idea:
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Time to move on WP probably. HTC 8S is tingling my mind and is ridicoulosly cheap here because everyone wants android phone now. 8S is very fluid and great battery life...
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This thread is something like Nokia 6600 vs galaxy s3
Don't know from where people came and ask questions
I like things from both.... I just run out of ram so quickly now..
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What do you think about the new android version. In my opinion, it's great , with better UI( if the leaked photos are true) , less RAM usage and new kernel. What do you think about the S2? Will Samsung update our phone ? In my opinion Samsung will not update the S2 or the Galaxy Ace or Mini...
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No they will not update our phone. And im also not too sure about new kernel. We do have dorimanx kernel which is light years ahead of most kernels... We have 3.12.rc1 while the Nexus have 3.4?
I don't thing Samsung will just think about updating the S2
It's an old device, it still an amazing device though
But updating it will not benefit Samsung
So no updates
But we still have AOSP
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ahmedelhofy said:
I don't thing Samsung will just think about updating the S2
It's an old device, it still an amazing device though
But updating it will not benefit Samsung
So no updates
But we still have AOSP
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Yea,thats true, even if samsung don't update it, the leaked images are showing a cool interface
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No they will not update our phone. And im also not too sure about new kernel. We do have dorimanx kernel which is light years ahead of most kernels... We have 3.12.rc1 while the Nexus have 3.4?
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The only thing is that some sites said about,that they will update S2 along with S3 ,S4, Ace,Mini, Note,Note 2
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There are rumors that it will support all current devices
It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...re-some-things-we-are-expecting-to-see-in-it/
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The only thing is that some sites said about,that they will update S2 along with S3 ,S4, Ace,Mini, Note,Note 2
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I think you may be misunderstanding the sites. They say its possible for 4.4 to run on our device. No updates mentioned.
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Our S2 is getting old.. And i'm not sure that it will can run 4.4 as good as it run 4.2.2.
4.4 is made for less ram usage... Some sites say Ace can run it... Ace has 278 mb of RAM
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Caproid said:
4.4 is made for less ram usage...
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Source ?
S2 will run it
Samsung will not update it
Cyanogen will port it
Everithing will be ok except the fact that samsung will not give another update for s2 even 4.2.2 or 4.3 ... why they should think about 4.4?
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krazy1101 said:
S2 will run it
Samsung will not update it
Cyanogen will port it
Everithing will be ok except the fact that samsung will not give another update for s2 even 4.2.2 or 4.3 ... why they should think about 4.4?
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4.2.2 and 4.3 are full of bloatware...that's why our s2 can't run it....in fact 4.4 will be slimmer...Most of the sites, say that android 4.4 will be released in October 14, which in my case is tomorrow....
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Huh I find no issue with 4.2.2, its the best thing yet! We have spent so much time optimzing 4.2.2 that it is so stable and usable. Fast forward to 4.3 which is much newer we have spent much less time on it so for sure it is not as good. However I dont understand which part of either these versions, 4.2.2 or 4.3 is bloated care explaining? Even if Android 4.4 has so called less RAM usage and kernel improvements it would not really matter to us. Take kernel changes for example. We can't just port AOSP code and use it for our devices correct? Remember the time when we only had official 4.0 and 4.1 was released by Google. Everybody wanted Project butter. Due to Sammy not giving us official 4.1 and its source code on time (thank god they actually gave the source code..) we would never have gotten close to full project butter experience which we still lack fully. So if Sammy does not give us what we need then we can use 4.4 without its so called perks like "less RAM usage"
Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter because our exynos device still lacks proper drivers. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter if our device still lacks a proper driver. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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What?
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Huh I find no issue with 4.2.2, its the best thing yet! We have spent so much time optimzing 4.2.2 that it is so stable and usable. Fast forward to 4.3 which is much newer we have spent much less time on it so for sure it is not as good. However I dont understand which part of either these versions, 4.2.2 or 4.3 is bloated care explaining? Even if Android 4.4 has so called less RAM usage and kernel improvements it would not really matter to us. Take kernel changes for example. We can't just port AOSP code and use it for our devices correct? Remember the time when we only had official 4.0 and 4.1 was released by Google. Everybody wanted Project butter. Due to Sammy not giving us official 4.1 and its source code on time (thank god they actually gave the source code..) we would never have gotten close to full project butter experience which we still lack fully. So if Sammy does not give us what we need then we can use 4.4 without its so called perks like "less RAM usage"
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The bloated versions are Samsung's ones... Pure Android is not bloated
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Caproid said:
The bloated versions are Samsung's ones... Pure Android is not bloated
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Yes I know that. But our phone has no problem running 4.2.2 or 4.3 that are AOSP based...... So whats the purpose of this thread anyway.... Cus Sammy has no intention of ever updating this phone to a higher version...
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Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter because our exynos device still lacks proper drivers. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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This OmniRom thing might help when you look at the people running it
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DvWatt said:
Our S2 is getting old.. And i'm not sure that it will can run 4.4 as good as it run 4.2.2.
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Untill now, the S2 is running is able to run 4.3.1 and 100% it will able to run 4.4
Samsung adds a lot of bloatware to their official roms which make the device slow
that's why I never use stock rom
Yea but what about cool features like multi window smart functions and motion ?
If this doesn't mean smth for you .... what about drivers? 4.2/4.3 have a lot of glitches with graphics and cuz samsung dont release exynos source code our beloved s2 will die one day in a near future
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