Kernel question? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Not sure where to ask this or even who. I had an hd2 and loved the fact that I could run android on it. I switched to a Samsung infuse 4g when I left t-mo.
From my experiences the hd2 ran android (an operating system it wasn't designed for) flawlessly. The infuse devs have jelly bean going but with some bugs that they can't figure out.
My question is why? Is it the kernel (still a gingerbread kernel) or lack of source from Samsung? Just curious how a windows phone can run android better than a native android device.
And I'm not knocking the devs, I'm super lucky to even be off froyo at all. Just curious.
Thanks!
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Its the device itself. Though a windows phone, HD2 is very close to Desire and Nexus One. This made it that much easier for our awesome Devs to get Android working really well, along with some great skills and innovative thinking.
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Well samsung has given away an sgII to the cyanogen team with the purpose of them getting cm7 to the sgII read the article here http://phandroid.com/2011/06/06/samsung-delivers-galaxy-s-ii-to-cyanogenmod-dev-says-get-to-work/ All device manufacturers should begin this trend
i want a free sensation from htc! xD
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Well samsung has given away an sgII to the cyanogen team with the purpose of them getting cm7 to the sgII read the article here http://phandroid.com/2011/06/06/samsung-delivers-galaxy-s-ii-to-cyanogenmod-dev-says-get-to-work/ All device manufacturers should begin this trend
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That's pretty neat! Gets the CM Team that much closer to their dream of having CM shipped on a phone. I mean opening up a brand new phone in the box, running CM, how cool would this be?
Must be nice lol
I agree..that's huge
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I like what Samsung is doing. Hopefully they'll do it with SG3s next summer or whenever they come out. That's when I'll be able to upgrade.
If they start to have CM come stock on their phones, itll be pretty beast and fast. Cm is far better then any bloated stock rom on a phone. Them lucky devs!
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Wow, amazing. Congratulations cyanogenmod team !
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Agreed that more companies should do this.
I was looking at upgrading to the Samsung Charge before unlimited plans go away but I like CM7 too much.
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My hopes for this is that HTC will do the same thing so that the CyanogenMod team can hopefully get TV Out to work on AOSP Roms.

Who wants an Ice cream sandwich?

Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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It can handle it easily nexus S is pretty much same hardware an y wouldn't u want it its the future
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Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Alex530 said:
Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Its not even close to being done do the kernel is not even updated do an the person who leaked it said its a work in process it's alpha they got something up there sleeve
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Alex530 said:
Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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What's Gingerbread missing that you want so bad from IceCreamSandwich?
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Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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oh... i thought you meant like... you know.. a real ice cream sandwich... im disappointed :\
The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
Looking at the leak that could have just been edited GB, I mean any of the devs here could have made that.
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Danstek said:
The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
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What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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playonline53tms said:
What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
gamikzone said:
lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
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Exatly
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We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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Well I don't expect alot either but they could surprise us.
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XPLANE9 said:
I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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Emama said:
We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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For me gps works when it wants not when i want, its not what i called fully fixed. I always get back to froyo after using cm7 for a week.
Jasonhunterx said:
No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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I tried multiple builds and just couldn't get reasonable battery life. I got tired of charging through usb at work. With my usage and location I get about 24 hours on undervolt 2.2 builds.
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XPLANE9 said:
Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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Really only time can tell what they do
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WebOS DHD?

Now WebOS has gone AOSP, will someone port this sext OS to our lovely phone?
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I too would love this to happen!
IT will be a long time till it is fully open sourced. If it does get ported it will be months before this happens
That would be pretty awesome, I had the palm before, amazing is just lacking power.
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awaiting for it if got...
007K said:
That would be pretty awesome, I had the palm before, amazing is just lacking power.
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It must be possible but hard to do, I just had the thought of it and found this so other people must want it too.
My understanding is that certain aspects of WebOS are based on proprietary software. Until these are replaced with fully OSS components, there will be issues porting the OS to anything.
I'd like to see it appear though, my brother got a Touchpad during the sale and it's really nice to use!
Great OS. Got a touchpad on fire sale. Weak hardware but the os was good stuff!
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[ICS] should they stop working on it

I've been following the ics project since after my birthday (11/27/11) and a lot has changed but when it comes to (FFC) it came to me that its not gonna work till maybe after the summer or never, whenever HTC gives out the code bit what's your opinion about the ics for the EVO 4G?
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This doesnt belong in the Android Development section, belongs in GENERAL.
My bad I thought it was general at first. The system will automaticly do it for me as usual.
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ummm my opinion on it is that if they dont want to they shouldnt. It will give us an awesome rom but more importantly that means our wonderful devs are learning stuff. this means that in the future they can use these experiences to help them in work or in other aspects of there personal lifes. so dev on guys you are doing great
Why in the world should they stop working on ICS? It makes little sense.
Deck and Kang and others are making great ICS ROMs for lots of phones, not just the EVO4G.
htc will release the code.. because it is an open source project. when is the question, not if.
ics will come..
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htc will release the code.. because it is an open source project. when is the question, not if.
ics will come..
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The OS code is open source. The device drivers are not last I knew. So no, HTC does not have to release driver code.
HTC may release the FFC code for our OG's as soon as they sell enough of their newer devices.
They seem to be dragging their feet in releasing the official ICS updates for the Evo 3D and the Evo Design when they said they would, but they're holding it back, why? Cuz they want to sell enough of the One series models before they officially update the older HTC models that are scheduled to be updated with ICS.
Its kinda crappy of HTC to do that, but hey, they're a "for-profit" business.
But in answer to your question, heck no they shouldn't stop developing ICS for our OG Evo's! This sh*t is fun as hell.
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what is the point of this thread? why is that a question? sorry no disrespect.
Yeah, I don't get why a thread was started for this. But why should devs abandon ICS on Evo? Because they can't get FFC to work!? I've been on ICS since the minute they got camera working (around Xmas), and could NEVER imagine going back to GB or Froyo (well, ...maybe froyo).
Keep up the awesome work, all who are working on ICS for Evo.
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scottspa74 said:
Yeah, I don't get why a thread was started for this. But why should devs abandon ICS on Evo? Because they can't get FFC to work!? I've been on ICS since the minute they got camera working (around Xmas), and could NEVER imagine going back to GB or Froyo (well, ...maybe froyo).
Keep up the awesome work, all who are working on ICS for Evo.
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I flashed outer depth express from, which is a great rom , just for ****s and giggles and let me tell you I haven't tried sense for about a year now and if you want to appreciate ics, flash a sense rom and you will see y we won't look back.....omg.....
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I don't follow ICS what is FFC?
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BigSmoke53 said:
I don't follow ICS what is FFC?
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Front facing camera
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Front facing camera
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Wow I should know that, but I've never used mine so I never thought of it. But really why would they stop ics for that.
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BigSmoke53 said:
Wow I should know that, but I've never used mine so I never thought of it. But really why would they stop ics for that.
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That's my point. This thread makes no sense. Ics development for evo is extremely active. Don't understand the creation of this thread.
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Hahaha. Let's see... These devs have given us some of the smoothest ROMs our phones have ever seen, with incredible battery life and cutting edge features...
But if I can't look at myself in my phone with a FFC, what's the point??
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PsiPhiDan said:
Hahaha. Let's see... These devs have given us some of the smoothest ROMs our phones have ever seen, with incredible battery life and cutting edge features...
But if I can't look at myself in my phone with a FFC, what's the point??
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Hell no. I am ugly. I don't want to see myself anyway.
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The evo is EOL(end of life) HTC doesn't have to support it any longer meaning they won't release any source for it as they are not working on ICS for the device. Hardware mfgs may release source for the same hardware in other devices, like they did with the adreno or the devs may code their own drivers. But don't expect HTC to do a damn thing for the evo, period.
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All I'm saying we have a lot of people love the ics Rom but some people hate it cause no 4G. But let me tell one thing about the ics it came a lot since then and like some people who are poor or they don't make a lot of money, its hard to keep up with ics roms when the last two months the biggest change was 4.0.4 which is like starting all over again. Don't get me wrong with the debate about their work, its freaking amazing, but the biggest break through will be the ffc. Closest to that is from a horse ride to a plane ride experience
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I don't think that they should stop working on the ICS ROM's. I went from Sense to Ice Cream Sense to ICS and having ICS on my phone is like having a brand new phone. We don't have 4G in our area, and the front facing camera I hardly used. I am using gummyWorms ICS right now and so far had no major problems with it. There are minor glitches sometimes but, that is no big deal. I hope that the ICS developers can get everything working and I know that it will take time to do so. I appreciate all of their hard work in bringing us some ICS goodness to our phones.

Android 4.4

I heard a rumor 4.4 is good for old devices as it has better memory management and takes as little as 512mb of RAM. I can't wait for devlopers to make one for the dream/sapphire devices
this is the article I read: http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/23053/android-44-kitkat
Um, the dream has far less than 512mb, but still may run better than ICS or jb I would hope... But those willing to develop for the dream are few and far between
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Too old to run Kit Katt.
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if they do , it would be great . but i don't think it could be possible .
I don't personally own a Dream but the fact that it was the first android and still has plenty of love is nice. My last phone was a droid x and we never did get jb just a lot of ICS love and kk was ported few months back and it is very smooth. Since the dream got a cm10 port it should be easy for a dev to port cm11 to it. Even if someone made into a "proof of concept" ROM haha
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